Are you on Leftbook (marxist/anarchist facebook groups)?
Tell us about your experience there.
Are you on Leftbook (marxist/anarchist facebook groups)?
Tell us about your experience there.
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Got kicked out for not supporting the ban of the word 'spook' because in the US it can be racist in certain contexts
Why do fucking Yanks think the world revolves around them? Context literally always matters in English
This was PAEP, btw
What is PAEP?
Political Aesthetics Escape Pod
And yeah, you literally can't even make Max Stirner jokes because the American 'POC' decided they don't like it.
god I hate Americans
That doesn't make any sense. Why?
i'm one of the admins of our facebook page (de-classcucked memes) and never bothered to approach those groups with even a ten foot pole considering they've been sharing our 'problematic' posts to incite report brigades.
'Spook' can be a slur for black people in the US
Check out Comrade Lenin's Dank Meme Stash
Wait, seriously? I never heard about that.
yeah i'm in that one and it's ok, i was referring to the ones listed in the OP (the 'sounds like x' ones) which are all anarcho-liberal cancer infested with idpol.
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We need a group not just a page.
Ah I agree, they're absolutely horrific.
Ancapistan is also a pretty funny facebook group
Kek
So if I say something they don't like, they're not allowed to disagree? Something tells me this is applied unevenly.
HAHAHAHA
Literally "theory is sexist"
Most of these groups of liberal idpol trash, as are most people who participate in fedbook groups. I personally don't have the patience for them and just follow some meme pages.
I too admin our FB page
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Is this our page too? it seems to have a similar name and posts Holla Forums memes, but it has 80k followers so I doubt most of them are from here. I even have some real life friends there that are not leftist or totally uninterested in politics.
It was supposed to be our page, I don't know if they're actually interested in being a voice for leftypol anymore.
That was the original page, but they purged some admins who took over a backup page. One of the reasons was because they didn't want other kinds of anti-capitalists besides communists, despite the fact that leftypol is home to much more anti-capitalist sects than that. I, personally, joined because I wanted to further the community and it's message.
What.
how is spook a racist word
yeah that's ours.
one of the main points in it was to advertise leftypol brand leftism via its leftypol admins, so obv it's gonna have partisans in the likes/follows that aren't originally from leftypol or will not probably do ltitle more than click the link to leftypol in the website section once and that's it.
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yea there was a split and that page was originally backup. the ones who left went to that page and now that's their version of leftypol shitposting on facebook.
not too sure what happened in detail but iirc they got purged by the original admin for saying they're not communists and being insufficiently well-read or ready to take a disciplined course towards admin organization, whatever that means.
i'm not an original admin and don't have deep personal relations with the others so i got what i know from the group chat and asking a bit.
rly tankie btw. they make good OC but the main admin unironically reveres stalin, even if it looks like "ironic" stalinism.
Oh they were just mad we wouldn't drop everything to read lenin, and because of spookposting. As for discipline, I maintain that taking a too serious and too ""disciplined"" approach to making and posting memes online will lead to the stagnation of said memes and lessen the ability to propagate propaganda.
And like I've said before, I'm always up for reconciliation with the old group. The fact that there are two de-classcucking meme pages speaks to the sad state of leftist sectarianism.
I've been in a few, including one from my university, and it's exactly what you'd expect it to be.
The latter I left because one time I made a marxist reading list on nation & nationalism (a very short and highly selective one just to help us articulate our opposition to nascent Nationalism here in Brazil, not one meant to encompass everything by all means) and got roasted by everybody for not including women or POC.
In the others there was no particular moment I decided to say fuck this shit, but I do remember losing all hopes when those two retarded BLM chicks interrupted Sanders and everyone thought it was the greatest shit and if you didn't they'd call you a liberal white supremacist afraid of black voices and post that stupid Phil Ochs song.
I'm still a let's-get-together type of moron despite everything, so I really can tolerate a lot of SJW shit if I must, but in those groups there's usually nothing but that. Even when we discussed capitalism it had to be in the context of how it "created racism", and even when we discussed the neoliberal horseshit being shoved down our throats by the interim government, it had to be in the context of how it's completely underfunding the public departments aimed at helping women & minorities.
I managed to find a few anti-Identitarian groups but they're terrible on their own right. Too much LARPing, everyone uses photos of revolutionaries as their profile pics and the tankie element is off the charts.
sounds like X but ok groups are always passive aggressive bullshit
there's a Zizek group nearing 30k members that was decent before it hit 10k
did it stop being decent? what happened? I used to be there before I desactivated my facebook account.
If he's talking about Zlazloi Zlizlek, it's because literally nobody has read or watched zizek despite the page posting loads of videos and articles. They even have stuff from the actual books.
too many normies who know nothing about Zizek and just share random consumerist shit (from pages like buzzfeed and nowthis) and add my gott, pure ideology to their post
not zlazloi, it's the slavoj zizek dank meme & discussion stash
The only leftist group you guys should be in is
Manarchist and Brosocialist
What do I look like, some kind of fucking rube?
why do you love mautist revisionism
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The problem with most of Leftbook is that it's a lot of liberals in red, self righteous autists and people who take everything too seriously.
Also too many purity tests, they consider themselves revolutionaries but they'll pounce on any opinion that isn't 100% in line with this new Foucault obsessed doctrine
It's essentially equivalent to nigger
It's really old. It hasn't been used seriously for like 50 years.
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this tbh
deleted mine three years ago and never looked back, never regretted it once
fbi get out
that's the point
I got kicked out of PAEP for a reason I have never been fully aware of. One day I was in PAEP the next day I wasn't. Also I vaguely remember the whole 'spook' thing on PAEP.
I was banned from one of those groups Islamophobia, I'm a "Born muslim" and I grew up and live in an Islamic 3rd world shithole, also everyone I love and interract with in real life is a Muslim and noone of the people who accused me of Islamophobia or banned me are Muslims, they all looked like mid class 1st world guys/girls.
You probably liked a post they found inflamatory.
Too many people unwilling to read and educate themselves.
Too few wanting to fix the source problems.
Too many happy to take photoops at food banks or at protests where piggies beat their faces into the asphalt.
they were the "let me be offended on your behalf, shh dont speak you poor helpless victim" types
It's a now-archaic black racial epithet
Pretty niggardly move tbh
Mostly trash. Plagued with idpol. Basically everything wrong with r/socialism. Anarchist pages are generally better than tankie pages tho
The mods really need to go full Stalinist and start banning out the liberals of all shades. It could be good again.
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Lol that was the exact reason I left PAEP – I realized that was the beginning of the end. Leftists seem dead-set on ruining leftism.
It's amazing that you can walk in to a university a common pleb, and come out as this type of possessed monstrosity.
I get the sentiment, but I'm reluctant to let go as my friends already pester me about not being available enough, and I like my friends and want to be easy to invite to stuff. How do you make yourself available?
who is this faggot?
People keep posting my face as a meme. I don't like it but it's out of my hands now.
oh hi
leftybook was a cool place until trump election, after that it was flooded with liberals talking about american politics 24/7. pretty sure it is impossible to differentiate some of these groups democratic party groups or liberal group.
No, because I try to avoid being investigated by the government.
If you actually want some serious discussion and find some serious content of Zizek on FBIbook alongside with some original memes you should check out Zizek and the Slovenian School & Zizek Studies pages instead. Unlike other pages these two are mostly used by people who take Zizek's theoretical contributions seriously and are well read.
are you some sort of ancap autist?
I poked my head into a group of people calling themselves socialists. Turned out to be r/socialism tier idpoling. fucking sigh, why does idpol ruin everything.
Nah, Ancapistan is like Holla Forums but much more varied. Leans right but there are lefties and fascists and Ancaps and everything in between. I'm a LibSoc, personally.
Disdain for Reactionary Plebs is a fun and comfy little personality cult, and Karl Marx's Red Reading Room is actually a pretty good place to talk theory. That being said, I once got banned from Sounds Liberal But OK for some completely petty bullshit by a guy who was a super righteous idpoler. No surprise it turned out that he actually mailed rape threats to some chick at his university and got banned.
In general, leftbook is plagued by a lot of personality politics and really petty bullshit. The worst offenders are typically also the worst idpolers. If you can get a group with the right mods, it can be alright. Otherwise, it's like Reddit except they can stalk your TL and make uncomfortable commentary about your real life. It's also kinda hard remembering which groups have already undergone a secession by all the really crazy idpolers and which ones still are full of people that can try to ruin your social life. In general tho, there are some pretty positive places.
Just mostly stay the fuck away from Political Aesthetics Escape Pod (it was only recently purged and can be a bit dangerous at times) and "but OK" groups, which are fucking nuts.
It's really sectarian lmao
Manarchists and Brocialists and Alt-left is pretty good tbh. Not full on Holla Forums, but close.
Dude isn't Alt-Left full of really confused Asserites and spooked alt-righters with slightly ok economics? I could be wrong, but I don't trust them any more than I trust fucking tradworkers to be comrades.
Leftbook pages are majority Holla Forums controlled whereas Leftbook groups are majority tumblr/reddit controlled
What does this mean? Explain it to someone that isn't a datacuck.
what did he mean by this
The alt-left is Bordigo-councilism and only exists as obscure leftcom papers. Quit your bullshit.
A FB group is where anyone can post
A FB page is where only admins can post
It used to be mostly ironic ancapposting, shitting on ancaps, and over-the-top satire until Poe caught up and all the actual ancaps showed up there thinking that everyone was being unironic and taking the helicopter thing way too seriously. There might still be lefty remnants in there, but for the most part I think it's like 80% shitty voluntarists.
Alt-left is probably one of the most retard ideas someone ever came up with, being alt-left means emulate alt-right's ethos, thus giving it legitimacy.
Instead of making it an edginess competition we should counter them with what he have, better memes and proper use of irony.
When did the comemenism page become friendly to de-classcucking memes and leftypol?
always the same story with these cunts lol
I thought the admin posted here?
It literally is. Every last one of the righteous idpol heroes got disgraced for factionalist personal bullshit or attempting to run authoritarian coups in groups and meme pages. Then they publish shitty self-vindicating manifestos asking to be let back in and complaining about how the people in the groups they got booted from are at the same time oppressed and oppressing them. The best solution is when they all just voluntarily choke on their own idpol, secede, wither, and die.
Best thing about this guy is that despite larping as an Indian, significant rumors and a lot of his more extravagant behaviour suggest that he was actually just a sockpuppet for a really fucking guilty white dude.
I am aware now that even I am not immune to toxic masculinity and in my fervour to be a good person and ally I didn't spend sufficient time reflecting on my own behaviour and how it might effect vulnerable people from marginalized identities. I vow I will try to do better, even though I am not perfect, and will listen to oppressed voices and use my muh privilege to help them be heard.
something that like? I
they used to bitch constantly about us and brocialists
Naw man - it's all accusing everyone else of not constantly saying that. Friendly reminder that as a person with an indian dude as your sockpuppet's avatar you aren't allowed to be questioned by anyone except for queer black femmes, who Lenin "didn't have shit on" and who aren't obligated to spend emotional labour to correct your mistaken theory but as a highly oppressed minority have the right to condemn your opinions and summon their loyal hate-mob who buy them things as reparations.
Lots of these people have been purged for some really crazy factionalist bullshit or leave after convincing themselves that the most crazy idpol groups are anti-black or something but they're out there somewhere.
It's all about knowing where to go - some groups have well-read, comfy, and materialist admins who enjoy shitting on reactionaries and promoting respectful marxist discussion in a non-overweening way. Others want to become the fucking dictators of tiny-ass facebook groups and make /r/Socialism look like a tame and open font of free discourse and enlightened socialist virtue.
A Spectre Is Haunting Facebook is a good non-idpol group.
even worse than I thought user. godspeed.
Niggardly isn't racist. It's from an old english root, it just means "stingy".
I shitpost on ancapistan
Most leftbook is so drenched in idpol you can swim in it.
Also everyone is either anarkiddie or full on tankie.
It's god awful
probably the best leftbook group, yeah.
the zizek group is just "*SHNIFF* IDEOLOGY!" shitposting by 14 year olds who think zizek is literally just a meme and that its commie roleplaying.
one of the main admins for comrade lenin's dank meme stash goes to commie rallies all the time in london and has a youtube channel with lots of informative videos and whatnot. a lot of actual discussion occurs within the group but there are a good bit of memes too which is always nice.
anarkiddies are kind of beginning to ruin it but it's nothing that's not ignorable. it's also unavoidable at this point.
the groups that are "sounds like ___ but ok" are just idpol-filled echochambers ran by pseudo-leftist liberals / "anarchocommunists" who've not read any theory.
someone told me the other day "elimination of idpol would be a win for the right!" lol
i told someone that to believe every rape claim regardless of evidence or trial is foolish and that false rape accusations /do/ happen and i got called a rape-apologist. ofc they were in all the "sounds ___ but ok" and idpol-oriented groups.
CLDMS is the only group i've seen in which idpol nonsense doesn't take place. over half of "leftbook" is just liberal teenagers wanting to be communists because of tumblr-tier ""communism"" / thinking socdem = socialism
It's really easy to radicalize normie on there, I've noticed.
Oh I guessed you were talking about the Indian from your first post. I didn't see it but saw people talk about it well after the fact. someone posted a link to an article about what he did, I cant find it.
The only reason I'm in those groups is to get girls.
yeah who wouldnt love a liberal gf with painted on features that thinks stalin killed a billion people that would tell you to check your muh privilege
Are you talking about that one tankie guy that posted some shit in a forum for his school about raping a girl or are you guys talking about another indian leftbook guy.
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"Tankie is a racist and anticommunist term"
-A dude
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these people are more dangerous than any petit-bourgie tbh
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they had a big turn away from idpol, but they're still tankies.
i'm an admin on de-classcucking memes and comemenism's admin has messaged us, which revealed that they're a huge tankie and like us despite how often we deride stalinism as capitalistic and not even viable anymore.
I got banned from sounds liberal but okay for saying "trumptards"
impersonating an sjw will get you banned fam
t. sucdiks
sounds like idpol bullshit but ok
Yes we get it. You watched that College Humor video from a few years ago