he has literally not committed a single act of imperialism since he took power.
prove me wrong
Putin is anti-imperialist
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Uhh, no. My understanding is that he's running Dugin's playbook and it's working like gangbusters, and Dugin's playbook definitely has imperial aspirations. Like Soviet Union or even grander tier aspirations.
He's less imperialist then America or the EU.
I like him, but a lot of leftists are really split on Putin's rule of Russia.
nah, hes a imperialist fuck. Just because he isnt western doesnt mean he is also a bourgeois piece of shit. :-)
then what has he done that makes him an imperialist?
Stupid, pointless and irrelevant thread draped in board lingo.
I don't understand why Russia doesn't get its shit together. It has the most land on Earth and a shitton of natural resources. What the fuck would it do with more land? Why is its economy so shit? Why does it need to sell anything to anyone?
They should just build themselves up internally for a while.
Perfect example of why tankies are not socialists.
read about the treatment of ethnic minorities in russia
Neh, that's fucking stupid liberal propaganda. Dugin just listed the national interests Russia has had for centuries and idiots used Putin's acknowledgement of that same strategic reality as a sign that it was all Dugin's plan all along.
You best be trollin', nigga
not imperialism.
the people of Crimea voted to be part of russia. The ukrainian government is also full of russophobic nazis
now lets be honest here everyone there is not Zhirinovsky, hes really like a accelerationist, pushing for ideas while everyone around is debating, discussing and having a little laugh
Do you fuckers even know what Georgia is?
It's funny that the ukraine government being couped by nazis is something both the liberal left and Holla Forumstards pretend didn't happen
Uh… Did you get this from the NYT? Do YOU know what happened in Georgia?
By definition, imperialism is expanding one's territory by either military or diplomatic force; imperialism isn't necessarily a synonym for colonialism.
the ones that actively tried to get independence? ofc they got their asses kicked, what a surprise
also, domestic affair by definition can't be "imperialism".
he is still a capitalistic traitor, but less so than many others. He is dealing with oligarchs, but he prevent them to leave with their bucks.
Why the fuck do people spew this bullshit? Are you even leftists? Why do people insist on sucking the dick of the head Russian oligarch.
Putin has about as much in common with Marxism as Genghis Khan.
And no there was no neo nazi coup. They barely had any influence at all. They caused a bit of a ruckus in Kiev and Russian propagandists took the opportunity to paint the Ukrainian revolution in that light. The Ukrainian nazis are extremely marginal. There is more of nazi threat in fucking Sweden than Ukraine.
Do you not know this or are you acting like useful idiots on purpose?
Doesn't change the fact that the Crimean people voted to be a part of Russia.
Are people such as yourself fucking serious? A local parliament that is filled with Russian soliders votes on a referendum.
An area where previously there had never been a poll that suggested a majority wanted to be part of Russia suddenly votes something like 95% to be a part of Russia.
Really a fascinating system this democracy.
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You take off that flag right now.
Periodic reminder that Russia would be back to the good old days through democracy if George Soros and his pals hadn't rigged the election
This, but that's not exactly a high bar. Georgia and Ukraine are a mess of autocrats slapfighting, and Putin being the "less wrong" part doesn't prove he's no imperialist. Also, there's that whole thing with serving free polonium sandwhiches to dissidents.
Seriously tho, is there more direct proof that Soros was involved? I mean, probability is over 99% but it would be nice to have a paper trail.
Story goes that Zyuganov came to the economic forum in Davos, Soros and some of his buddies were spooked that the specter of communism wasn't properly dead so they gathered some people to finance the alcoholic dying man. The US government also offered direct economic support to the government through loans and schemes like that.
In the end I think the budgets for the campaigns was like 3 million for the commies and like 60 million for Yeltsin. It was a collection of all capitalist power in the world and Russia that came together to keep Yeltsin and his oligarchs in power. Does not matter a single squat exactly how many millions Soros personally contributed.
If you scower the web a bit you'll find good sources on this stuff.
Really intriguing, I had only heard of this a few months ago. And the dumb thing is that the so called communist would probably just have been ruling like a social democrat.
sweden dosen't have fucking nazi militas
Tankies not reading again
The authritarians are not even trying now.
based putin
No kidding, he isn't the head of the US so he can't be imperialist. Imperialism directed against America is, itself, anti-imperialist.
yes it's called self defence
tankies the thread
not an argument
Imagine an ex CIA agent ran the US and all of his dissenter mysteriously died of radioactive poison or other poison right around the time of important state events.
The only reason Putin isn't an imperialist is because he is cucked by the US/Europe and China.
Fuck your shit
They were American-funded subversives.
the so called political dissidents that have died where literally nobodys that nobody liked. killing them would do him more harm then good
The idk how many wars in chechnya (though yeltsin shares credit for these)
the 2008 south ossetian war
the 2014-present intervention in ukraine
(possibly) interfering with the american election
He gets a pass for syria because he's acting on behalf of existing allies/client states
Georgia started it
voted to be part of russia
America have done the same shit against russia, it's karma
it's not imperialism to help an anti-imperialist state
you're fucking retarded if you believe it's only russian propaganda. The head of parliment was (is? didn't keep up) a legit full blown ukrainian nazi with all the decorum, and they're the ones in charge with the oligarchs and US agents.
any proof or just your ass as source ?
yeah the fact the ukrainian government went full nazi have nothing to do with it
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Besides that this has nothing to do with imperialism, Russia is the only country that didn't genocided the fuck out of its native population like all the Anglocucks.
People know very little about Russias diversity, it's minority languages, it's minority rights and preserved traditions.
God tankies are dumb. jesus christ
Are you denying that at least 90% of the Crimeans wanted to join Russia? You are implying that while there is an actual threat of fascists at the door you want to keep the liberal bourgeois presentation of democracy. Again Anarchists coming out as liberals.
The people wanted to join Russia. Nobody gives a fuck about your muh OSZE standards.
Is that the new version of "leftists are LITERALLY mentally ill"?
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But sempai, America never meddles in other countries elect–
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I'm implying the opposite.
I'm also implying that what goes around comes around.
it's ok to do it against amerikkka because karma is a bitch
just tankies
t. liberal socdem
whatever you say, you larping fag you
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