So what is alienation, anyway?

What is the equivalent in the service industry? A salesperson who feels nothing towards the product they sell or the people they sell it to?

A spook

hahahaha or maybe just poop gratuitous amounts of idpol

Althusser pls

correcting,
it's when the person has (note: not feels) no relation to the product,
except for the action of producing it.

the worker doesn't decide who it's going to or
know why they want it,
the worker doesn't decide what s/he's
producing,
and because this makes up the whole world,
(buildings, roads, sidewalk trees, designated
nature spots, tv, pop culture)
you are isolated and pacified, wit no
real effect on the world (which is why most
feel that way)

and the salesperson or service sector worker is
in the exact same position, they just do an action which doesn't produce a product but
rather does the bidding of capital in other ways.

with*

sage

Is that like a pizza-related map?

"I just work here."

A nation of aliens.

Ah, those are both good explanations.
How horrible.

Capitalism

Communism:

First, notice who gets the product. In capitalism, the workers never see the final product, just the part of the process they perform. This is alienation from work or from the product.

Second, as a result of being nothing more than a cog, the worker is unaware not just of the end result of their labor but of the entire production process. This is alienation from working or from the act of producing.

Third, being blind to their output, the worker is detached from the inherent value of their labor power. That is, they don't know what they are capable of producing because it's obscured by the process being fragmented. This is alienation from oneself as a producer.

Fourth, like the first three the worker is similarly unaware of the roles played by other workers in the production process. They don't see how the other pieces fit together, they don't see the power of the other workers to labor and produce. This is alienation from the other workers.

The reason capitalism does this is because it's more efficient to break down production into simple tasks and because if the workers are not alienated they will have a sense of how hard they're getting ripped off and will rebel.

How do we stop this?

Wrong. Not all concepts are "spooks".

seize the means of production

Yes, they are.

Wrong, fixed ideas that guide your action are spooks, not concepts. Read Stirner.

Alienation does not guide our behaviour

As a wage worker you have to sell your time in exchange for survival. This means that part of your life literally belongs to someone else, which is what alienation means.

Are you sure, though?

lmao its always entertaining to see people who don't understand what spooks

Did the spooks get you, user?

Replace capitalism with communism. We don't even need guillotines any more. Porky can be found in literal towers now (though they're glass not ivory). We can let gravity to most of the work.

whoops my shitposting flag

Lmao how the fuck is alienation real like nigga just follow your ego like just keep the value you create hahah

You know that hollow feeling you feel when you get home from your work and you are finishing up your third fap before bed? Now imagine that spread out over a long while and that is what alienation from capital feels like. Kind of like depression but it's about the disappointment you feel about life and the limited options aside from consumer choice in a capitalist system. Through ideology you're told your options are limitless but you are a schlub who cant get a date or a promotion and you will die a cog even though you were told you will be a king every day.