Roguelike thread?

Lucas Hughes
Lucas Hughes

FAQ
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News
New gigantic DDA mod release that lets you win DDA!
github.com/tyrael93/Ascension/releases
This post explains some shit I guess
discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ascension-mod-or-winning-dda-the-mod/14799

IVAN 0.51 released
github.com/Attnam/ivan/releases/tag/v051

Sil-q updated
github.com/sil-quirk/sil-q/releases

ADOM r88 released for free, includes new secret boss and dinosaurs, get it here:
adom.de/home/downloads.html

/rlg/'s shared DCSS online account
User: rlgrobin
Password: ownfault (or "robin" on Xtahua)

Roguelike Servers:
roguenex.us/ (CDDA, angband, PCB)
angband.live/ (Angband and variants, including PCB)
hardfought.org/ (Nethack and variants, including slex)

I am so mad right now. Lost an amazing character to stupidity.
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Other urls found in this thread:

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roguebasin.com/index.php?title=Berlin_Interpretation
github.com/tmhedberg/dcss-ehe
te4.org/blogs/darkgod/2018/02/news/announcing-tales-majeyal-next-expansion-forbidden-cults
milieumusic.bandcamp.com/album/gunkajima-expanded-remastered
mega.nz/#!OZ0RAALS!i_gBNDDL6creXHpETP5MntEMq5_KpLK2Ia9XkJoBZZo
pastebin.com/6kNP5V1e
bitbucket.org/rmtew/incursion-roguelike/
github.com/cataclysmbnteam/Cataclysm-BN/releases
crawl.chaosforge.org/Category:Crawl_Versions
github.com/crawl
github.com/tmhedberg/dcss-ehe/blob/master/crawl-ref/INSTALL.txt

Daniel Bailey
Daniel Bailey

spend a couple hours getting sound to work for DCSS
diving between various mods looking at their code trying to reverse engineer it
steal some sounds from each one and get them all working
realize they all fucking suck and I wasted my time
go back to just listening to music

Michael Wood
Michael Wood

Yeah the sound packs out there suck pretty bad right now. Hoping a good one gets made soon but I doubt that will ever happen.

Julian Martin
Julian Martin

Damn, OP, I just noticed that character you posted. I'm jealous. I lost my best character ever tonight - I got punked by some floating weapons in the Elven Halls. I was blowing through them earlier and all of a sudden a halberd just started ruining my shit. It's weird, this was only my third Merfolk character and I tore shit up.
pastebin.com/MwFgLSnC

Ayden Reed
Ayden Reed

I saw some forum posts about people who wanted to make ambient music for every dungeon branch and have custom-made sound effects for most actions that could be taken. Dead since 2013.

Oliver Robinson
Oliver Robinson

Yes, there is one. Your OP is better though.

Ethan Bailey
Ethan Bailey

I'd like to know about the history of the term Roguelike.
Was there a game named rogue?
What has to occur for a game to be classified as a roguelike?
What is the most famous examples of a roguelike?
What is or are another term(s) for roguelike.

Thanks in advance, old man who never bothered to ask before.

Brody Fisher
Brody Fisher

Was there a game named rogue?
Yes, there was. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_(video_game)
What has to occur for a game to be classified as a roguelike?
This: roguebasin.com/index.php?title=Berlin_Interpretation
What is the most famous examples of a roguelike?
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup
Angband
ADOM
Tales of Maj'Eyal
What is or are another term(s) for roguelike.
Roguelike :^)
Thanks in advance, old man who never bothered to ask before.
You're welcome user.

Kayden Cooper
Kayden Cooper

For shame, OP. You have no dungeon crawling music.

What if everyone just stopped posting in that one?

Luis Thompson
Luis Thompson

Was there a game named rogue?
Yes
What has to occur for a game to be classified as a roguelike?
There are some lists of criteria but ultimately you're in for an unbelievable whirlwind of autism once they're dragged out and anyone attempts to get specific.
What is the most famous examples of a roguelike?
A good contemporary example would be Dwarf Fortress, I can't speak to what's famous.
What is or are another term(s) for roguelike.
Turn-based rpg :^)

Ryder Cook
Ryder Cook

What has to occur for a game to be classified as a roguelike?
The meaning of "rougelike" is tough to nail down. Some people will call anything with procedurally generated content and permadeath a rougelike. Purists prefer the Berlin Interpretation.
What is the most famous examples of a roguelike?
In addition to what's been mentioned already there's nethack.
What is or are another term(s) for roguelike.
For things that are almost but not quite rougelikes people have used the term roguelite, roguelike-like, action roguelike, and procedural death labyrinths.
For pure rogelikes we're pretty much stuck with the name "rougelike".

Nathan Robinson
Nathan Robinson

Is there any indication as to whether Brogue is still in development? Last update was over 3 years ago. Additionally has anyone compiled the damn thing on Linux before? I was wanting to grab the UI upgrades and Lightning in water effect from Brogue+, as well as tweak it to show actual current/total HP on lifebars, but it's a pain in the ass to compile it, the included makefile seems to be intended for Windows.

Jeremiah Nguyen
Jeremiah Nguyen

unrealworld.fi
dev just shitposts about upcoming features and fixes but doesnt release any

What mods fix this game?

Oliver Martinez
Oliver Martinez

wew those stupid suckers on Steam who bought it for $10

Jonathan White
Jonathan White

buying, >steam
game is free but if you want to support a developer NEVER GIVE MONEY TO GABE EVER THAT FUCKING GREEDY COMMUNIST

Benjamin Cooper
Benjamin Cooper

current run going kinda well I'm cautiously optimistic for this.

Chase Hughes
Chase Hughes

reminder to play dungeon crawl: stone soup version 0.18 because every version after that has liberal race and gender identity propaganda and censorship

Dylan Russell
Dylan Russell

I got amulet of yendor. let's see if I can make it

Dylan Hill
Dylan Hill

I got my near-invulnerable minotaur trapped in a fucking sea of snakes and lizards and all that shit once. Whenever I cut one down, another one took it's place.

Are there any good graphics/sprite mods for it? I got kinda tired of vanilla back when I was playing it on my phone

David Watson
David Watson

Are there any roguelike games that aren't like rogue, but more like Skyrim?

Anthony Bell
Anthony Bell

gah, I died. managed to get to level 20 before dying to compination of warden and explosive dar warrior

Ian Cook
Ian Cook

Anyone play Haque? I'm not sure if I liked it, as I found is a bit more annoying than interesting. Not sure it's even a serious RL because it only took me two real attempts to complete. It has a kind of corruption gimmick to it later on. I mainly enjoyed the necromancy, although it could get rare corpses would show up. You have the option to consume them for HP/MP or turn them if you have classed yourself for it. There's also embalming fluid to up the chance but I didn't see a lot of difference. It has an interesting thing where different floors enemies have different traits like, "the monsters here are tough as rock." Seems a lot of people hated the art style but at least it was consistent and most of the annoying shit seems it could be turned off.

Noah Morgan
Noah Morgan

I found it annoying because it reminded me of stuff that tries too hard to push its story along, so I just maxed through it because I didn't really have the patience to potentially go through a bunch of story dialogues again. I haven't gone back to it after fully finishing it, there's a sort of epilogue run after the main one that's a cakewalk, maybe it turns into a normal RL after that which you could just coffee break through. Would have been much better if it were much more subtle and difficult.

Caleb Lopez
Caleb Lopez

changelog for latest DCSS v0.21
Removed wands of confusion and lightning.
Removed scrolls of recharging.
Removed mutagenic chunks.
Removed control Undead.
Removed Cigotuvi's Embrace.
Rations are now the only type of permanent food, replacing bread and meat rations, fruit, and royal jelly.
Ration item generation and well as the herbivore and carnivore mutations have been balanced to keep available nutrition the same as before.
Fedhas abilities that formerly required a piece of fruit instead require two rations.
Zin no longer has a mutation removal one-time ability at 6* piety.
Zin blocks 100% of mutations at 6* piety. At that piety level, potions of mutation now only remove mutations and don't cause piety loss.
Wands of the same type merge charges upon pickup and wands have no cap on charges.
Wands identify charges upon pickup and are destroyed when their last charge is used.
ACTIVELY MAINTAINED CUMULATIVE FEATURE RESTORATION FORK WHEN
github.com/tmhedberg/dcss-ehe

implying that's worse than the 0.10 dorfocaust

Camden Collins
Camden Collins

Why haven't they merged all weapons into "melee" and "ranged" yet? It's begging to be done.

Evan Butler
Evan Butler

Todd posting was funny only the first 5000 times

Nolan Hernandez
Nolan Hernandez

Was there a game named rogue?
a bunch of other dumb questions
You dumb lazy nigger, all you needed to do was perform an internet search and you would find the answer, this is why we need to gas all boomerniggers

Matthew Clark
Matthew Clark

what the fuck is with those wand changes. So every character just carries around all the wands with a billion charges now

dungeon exploration is too much rng between monster spawns and traps plus everyone just autoexplores everywhere, so we've removed the dungeon and the whole game is now a two-tile-wide corridor

the wide variety of spells in the game were simply repeats of near-identical concepts so we've simplified casting into one spell that deals damage, one spell that makes you hit harder, one spell that summons a random ally and one spell that reduces the damage you take

Andrew Gonzalez
Andrew Gonzalez

Speaking of DCSS v0.21, how the fuck do I make a Necromancer work? I've tried all sorts of species, but I've never made it to the bottom of the dungeon with one. I try to make my skeletons do most of the fighting, but they're all terrible and Pain fucks me up when I cast it, making me even squishier than your average caster.

Thomas Johnson
Thomas Johnson

So ToME has a new expansion/DLC coming out.
te4.org/blogs/darkgod/2018/02/news/announcing-tales-majeyal-next-expansion-forbidden-cults

Eli Phillips
Eli Phillips

So does ToME actually get games made for its engine like it did before it became a Steam Workshop® game?

Brody Hall
Brody Hall

download latest CDDA
at least the cities look and work better than compared to version 6921 where roads in cities were shit to navigate, dead ends everywhere, retarded turns etc. Also, are the wandering hordes more common in static spawns? I barely avoided this one group if it wasn't for wolves dealing with the horde.

Landon Wilson
Landon Wilson

there are no wandering hordes in static unless you count those led by a zombie master, and those are very rare

Isaiah Evans
Isaiah Evans

Any good, simple and fun roguelikes like DoomRL? I fell in love with the thing, but I want to try something else in the same style since I've seen most of the content by now.

Angel of Carnage best fucking challenge

Matthew Turner
Matthew Turner

Might as well share this story. This is the story I tell people when they ask me why I play retro games. If you're a dedicated ADOM player this may not be as funny, because the punchline only works if you aren't aware this can happen:

Decide to give ADOM a second chance because it looks like a lot has been updated since you last played
Play as a dwarven duelist because dwarves are boss
Carefully study the strengths and weaknesses of your class and race
Enter the first dungeon
Locked door in the first room
Years of playing Roguelikes has taught you to kick down the door.
The door didn't stand a chance. Dwarves are boss.
Door in the second room is also locked
Kick it down
It falls on your head and kills you instantly
Your badass dwarf just died before the first round of combat
Your epitaph says you lasted less than one in-game minute

So why do I play old games? Because they're fucking funny.

Anthony James
Anthony James

what the fuck is with those wand changes. So every character just carries around all the wands with a billion charges now
No, when when you pick up a copy of a wand it is not a extra item. l2read

Thomas Ross
Thomas Ross

Other poster's implication was probably that if you can't have spares of the same want (especially low-charge ones like healing), it will free up inventory slots allowing you to carry more types of wands simultaneously.

Samuel Thomas
Samuel Thomas

I was kinda hoping that there would be random traveling hordes, I did happen to see one running in wilderness, didn't see if they chased deer or something. The current one which spawns them just randomly all over feels bullshit, I just want some horde to come from somewhere and they either just loiter or pass by.
It's been ages when I last played ADOM, but I had one frightening moment where I apparently got eaten by grue while I had to pass through dark area.

Connor Reed
Connor Reed

It's been ages when I last played ADOM, but I had one frightening moment where I apparently got eaten by grue while I had to pass through dark area.

Huh, I've never had that happen. Admittedly I've only ever once managed to proceed to the next… uh, I guess story mission, but I've hung out in dark areas before and I thought the grue message was just a reference.

Charles Harris
Charles Harris

I think the chance is minimal and you either had to be cursed or doomed in order to happen.

Gavin Harris
Gavin Harris

IIRC you can adjust horde frequency and density somehow
hordes enabled is hardo modo because the game periodically randomly spawns them outside your sight range so you cant just hunker down somewhere and be mostly safe after clearing a town, you have to set up barricades and defenses and all that shit for when the fuccbois come rolling

Asher Collins
Asher Collins

you need to be doomed for that to happen. Altho' sometimes wghen moving through dark areas, it does say something like "you're likely to be eaten by grue". But unless you're doomed, no need to worry.

Nolan Morales
Nolan Morales

DCSS devs are from bizarro world. Instead of developing new content for an incomplete game, they spend all their time developing new ways to remove content from their already more complete game. Honestly how do they still have content to remove?

You play an old version that still has death knights or deep dwarves that weren't ass.

Nathaniel Mitchell
Nathaniel Mitchell

(fuckin' checked)
digit checking however will be satisfying for all time

Cooper Collins
Cooper Collins

Honestly how do they still have content to remove?
They can still go further. Much further.

Nicholas Ortiz
Nicholas Ortiz

Back to Cata
despite all sorts of mishaps and bad luck, doing relatively well with food and water supplies
just need some decent clothes
zombies start to fall relatively easy thanks to tanto I found from some mexican standoff site
go deeper into the small city, run into too many zombies to handle
run away, try to get distance, stamina running low but i'm getting away with it
fucking zombie soldier around next corner of houses
I can't run longer, have to fight, and lone soldier ain't that big problem
actually, it is, tanto won't do any damage to it
and z-soldier is beating my ass and die to it
I remember they weren't THAT tough to deal with or that I had better character. Now with new character, similar stats
loot the few houses, there's no good clothing around
decide to sneak in night, get ambushed by group of shady zeds
clothes getting torn off one by one, getting cold, now i'm having infection
no disinfectants, no tools to cauterize
have to run to pharmacy on the other edge of town, infection goes bad to worse, need antibiotics
carefully move around in daylight, avoid zombies, finally reach pharmacy
tramadol, but no antibiotics, no disinfectants
mfw hospital nearby but its chock full of spitters, almost naked and thanks to that wound, got nausea and vomiting and feeling hungry and thirsty
I need godly amount of luck to survive this one.

Luke Perez
Luke Perez

not savescumming in cata

Jack Myers
Jack Myers

savescumming

Jack Evans
Jack Evans

normally I would agree but cataDDA takes a week of play to reach the endgame
its not DCSS where you can finish a playthrough in a single sitting

Wyatt Sanchez
Wyatt Sanchez

adom takes long time to beat too, and I've beaten it without savescumming.

Robert Powell
Robert Powell

near hospital there are some wolves and a moose, get closer, there are fucking feral runners prowling around
one of the catches sight of me, fuck it, not gonna attempt to fight, let it fight against moose
it works sort of, feral runner goes down, but the moose didn't like my shit and runs towards me
give a good few whacks with the golf club and surprisingly, stops attacking and flees
rethink how to approach hospital, check the road
lone wolf attacks me, beat its ass but take damage
another feral runner saw me and is heading towards me
see armored car and armored truck, run towards them, suddenly the runner has other ideas and goes to attack moose, safe for now
check the cars, armored car has no ammo in the machineguns or wheels, armored truck has loaded Glock 19 but no fuel
the feral runner is running back to me, but now I got some firepower, shoot it
have some ammo ready and preparing for suicide run but zombies heard the gunshots and are running towards me
there's way too many, run for it
against feral runners
get far away and hope I can down some of them without getting too much attention
no good, need least three good point blank shots to down the zombie and there's too many targets
run out of ammo, desperately try to reload with loose ammo while zombies eat me alive
That was one kind of an ending. At least new start provided me with winter boots and gloves, and some tights to keep my legs warm, shouldn't suffer from cold at least.
Considering that I survived four days in first and two days in second attempt, I wouldn't do that. If you can't least survive for ten days without being in shitty condition, like infection or no food or water, I wouldn't consider savescumming. After that, it's just matter of preference.

Eli Wright
Eli Wright

Dungeon crawling music you say?
milieumusic.bandcamp.com/album/gunkajima-expanded-remastered
Couldn't find it on youtube, sorry

Isaac Sullivan
Isaac Sullivan

adom isnt cata
he thinks surviving 4 days is a lot
try surviving 4 years without savescumming

Jace Nelson
Jace Nelson

adom isn't cata
well, true, but my point was mainly that even in long roguelikes, you shouldn't need to use save-scumming

Charles Perry
Charles Perry

Starting is always the hardest point of the game, depending on where you spawn, what you get from shelter etc. Right now I've managed to get myself decent clothes so I'm not suffering from cold, and I got about 60 or so shotgun shells and double-barreled to deal with tougher zombies, so I am doing good for now.

I've found building that has metallic doors which can't be pried or pick lock, are there any other options to get through them? I don't have torch, and there is reinforced glass and I haven't found sledgehammer.

Thomas Young
Thomas Young

They prefer to remove items, spells and abilities over reworking their player inventory/spelllist system into handling more than 26*2 slots.

Austin Cooper
Austin Cooper

and I would agree with you in general, but not in case of cata
its a sandbox in the scope of elona and Im not losing a 42 hours savegame because autopickup kicked in at the worst of times

if it cant be pried or lockpicked that means its either connected to a lever or a console.
What you can to is find a jackhammer and blow your way through the wall.

Nolan Sanders
Nolan Sanders

COGMIND BETA 5
Literally all the other versions you can find online are over an year old(beta 3), so enjoy this shit niggers.
mega.nz/#!OZ0RAALS!i_gBNDDL6creXHpETP5MntEMq5_KpLK2Ia9XkJoBZZo

Hudson Torres
Hudson Torres

I'm having a really good time with Caves of Qud. Plays sort of like Dwarf Fortress Adventure mode, though currently there aren't many civilized places, which should hopefully change in coming patches.
Thanks user.

Samuel Sanders
Samuel Sanders

Call me shallow, but stone soup is the only real roguelike I can get into. My most successful run ever was a gargoyle fighter that got to vaults 2. Is 0.18 the definitive version like says?

Isaiah Hill
Isaiah Hill

No, the rape started clear back in 0.10, it's all up to how many new features you can't live without, versus how many old features you refuse to let go of. At least until somebody makes a cumulative restoration fork and keeps it up to date.

John Jones
John Jones

Currently doing adom run. so far I have done the portal quest(and other thrundarr's quests) and gotten the ring of high kings in the main quest department and various other stuff. Currently doing ice-queen's quests

Gavin Williams
Gavin Williams

forgot to add, this is my current character

Michael King
Michael King

He's right about it always being a matter of one step forward two steps back. For me, the definitive version is probably somewhere between 0.14 and 0.16.

0.14 removed a bunch of levels from the dungeon, which was actually needed (D:16-27 were replaced with the Depths:1-5, which were far more interesting), and added a bunch of new spells and items, along with the best god. However, it renamed double and tripleswords to bastard swords and claymores - a change no one asked for, that was quickly reverted on 0.16. I've got a soft spot for this version because I placed pretty highly in the .14 tournament.

0.15 got rid of inventory weight and item destruction, which despite seeming like filthy casualization at the time wasn't actually a bad change in retrospect. They also cut a few more levels from some of the other branches. On the other hand, .15 didn't have Ru (or Jewag), and removed inexplicably removed player clinging, which was a cool if rarely-used feature.

.16 introduced two more gods and reworked artefact generation, but removed a bunch of items that were pretty cool (Iron Rod, anyone?) along with the Felid leap attack. Because Felids were totally OP, right? It also fucked up traps badly, making it so you can no longer fly over them and also introducing Shadow traps.

Beyond that they just removed more and more stuff and got increasingly shitty. There were a few cool additions, like juggernauts, but mostly it was faggy changes like making Ignite Poison no longer useful in Spider Nest. And from what I hear about later versions - aside from the removals - it's all stupid shit like renaming the Sword of Jihad and turning all the NPCs into transgenders.

Connor Ross
Connor Ross

Reminder that if you're okay with v0.14, there's an old fork of it restoring pretty much everything stripped out back to v0.10 that I linked earlier, Extra Hearty Edition. Note that there are no binaries, so you'll have to build it yourself (I used msysGit on XP, because I like true VGA textmode).

Daniel Russell
Daniel Russell

Ive been playing CDDA for like 4 days non stop now and i cant stop
Why this game is so great?

Austin Hill
Austin Hill

its a sandbox where you can do anything™ and a mans ultimate power fantasy of cobbling together a tank from kitchen appliances while defending his right to bear arms and moonshining

Christian Perry
Christian Perry

Im playing it for the first time and still learning but i already have set up a comfy cabin in the woods with plenty of canned foods looted from nearby mansion, also i have a knife spear with is excellent when it comes to fighting because it got reach attack

Evan Morris
Evan Morris

three-pronged spear is a better option

Gavin Morgan
Gavin Morgan

Which is the best god and why is it Xom?

Asher Thompson
Asher Thompson

Playing PosChengband lately as a Ring - my bearer is a Temporal Champion, after the Hell Knight I lovingly raised up from a simple Anti-Paladin cast me off one too many times and became permanently uncharmable. I'm up to the 'farm the Arena till Clvl50' segment of the game. Dimension Door is amazing, as ever, but I'm starting to get a bit bored with doing the same thing over and over. That's just *bands, I guess. At least I have a good selection of abilities, though it sucks finding great gear and not being able to equip any of it.

Dith, because it turns stealth into something reliable enough to build your game around, rather than a cute little sidegame that increasingly gets relegated in favour of casting or more defences.

Plus, if shit hits the fan, you can load up a triple crossbow of piercing and get your shadow to fire bolts half the time when you do. Still getting pasted? Activate shadow form to gain invisibility, immunity to poison, draining, torment, and hostile enchantments, and 50% damage reduction, without any drop in your ranged damage.

Dith is legit OP, and no one has realised for the last 6 versions or so. Chei is also a lot better than most people acknowledge.

Noah Turner
Noah Turner

now I have defeated the Ancient Chaos Wyrm. yay. I think this is third time I'm this far in the game

Henry Long
Henry Long

Downloaded this on a whim without knowing a thing about it. Thoroughly impressed. Though maybe not $20 worth of impressed.

Jackson King
Jackson King

Chei is also a lot better than most people acknowledge.
Chei isn't popular? +15 to all stats is crazy good.

Leo Fisher
Leo Fisher

well damn, I wanted to do ghost librarians quest, but seems like some monster killed him while I was clearing the library.

Matthew Nguyen
Matthew Nguyen

Well, I learned the wish spell from spell book. Never been able to read spell book of wish before. Also, wish seems to have pretty insane pp cost

Jaxson Torres
Jaxson Torres

Achievement Unlocked!
Christ, Biskup really is an absolute faggot.

Maybe Chei is popular here. All I'm judging by is the stupid shit I've seen constantly regurgitated on the DCSS forums ('Waah, no Haste, Chei is worse than no god!') whenever I can work up the stomach to check that shithole out and see what they're planning to cut next. Food and the ID system are both hanging on by a thread as it is.

But yeah, Chei's stats are great. And spamming Slouch can get you out of most any trouble you're likely to find yourself in.

Caleb Parker
Caleb Parker

"roguelike" without food
What? How is that even supposed to work without a clock mechanism?

Christopher Sanchez
Christopher Sanchez

well great, I fucked myself over. I defeated the snake from beyond and, forgetting that I had no means of removing corruptuions, ate it. And I had very bad luck with corruption. one of the corruptions is mana battery, which means I can't use wands and the other is tentacle face, which means I can't cast spells. I'm currently desperately trying to find a way to remove corruptions. I'm so fucked.

Charles Scott
Charles Scott

And Biskup doesn't even give the source code.

Nathaniel Gomez
Nathaniel Gomez

wanting every secret exposed
Even Nethack is almost entirely developed by a shadowy devteam, pretty much the only benefit of open source form most roguelikes is crossplatform ports and compatibility updates.

Brandon Jenkins
Brandon Jenkins

How are there still things to remove?

Chase Morris
Chase Morris

I like the sound of those wand changes. Yes, they are more casualized, but I feel like I could actually use wands more than once in a blue moon under the new system.

Brody Harris
Brody Harris

How do I open the secondary windows that display information in Sil? I grabbed the version from the AUR and it only opens a primary window, but a video introduction to the game I skimmed has a bunch of windows with information on them.

Nicholas Myers
Nicholas Myers

Nethack
being developed

m8, Nethack is infamous for not having any fucking work being done on it in something like the last twelve years. They finally released an update last year and they might as well have not bothered for all it actually changed. My RSI has probably developed more from just typing this post than Nethack will in the next twelve months.

And let's be brutally honest; Nethack's shit anyway. It was the first roguelike I ever completed, and I'm sure the others all owe it a debt in one way or another but it does not stand the test of time. 'XD LOL I ate the trident and it was like Trident gum! So random!'. 'Confuse yourself then read scrolls of enchant armour to safeguard your clothing, so obvious, 10/10 GOTY.' For its time, no doubt, Nethack was great, but now if you want something a bit fun and wacky then just play Elona+ and marry your pet bear or something.

And the prime benefit of open source is variants. Slash'Em, PosChengband - hell, ToME4 wouldn't exist if not for its predecessors being open source. Sure, most variants suck, but the cream rises to the top. Plus open source puts pressure on the devs to keep developing. Because if they stop, someone else will jump in and potentially make the project their own - look at what happened to Whales and Cataclysm/DDA.

Window tab (at the top of the screen) > Visibility > click on the various shit there like Equipment, Combat Rolls, etc. Find your own combination that suits you. Personally I leave the last three closed.

Carter Ortiz
Carter Ortiz

well, haven't found means of removing corruptions yet, but I've reached the casino level. And I was reminded that the unicorn quest is a thing. I guess I could do that when I reach level 30. Because I can get rid of corruptions that way as a reward.

Thomas Rodriguez
Thomas Rodriguez

There were a few cool additions, like juggernauts, but mostly it was faggy changes like making Ignite Poison no longer useful in Spider Nest. And from what I hear about later versions - aside from the removals - it's all stupid shit like renaming the Sword of Jihad and turning all the NPCs into transgenders.
Wait what? And Why? I mean I'll say this about later ToME and the loss of the Orc Genocide plot, at least they made up for that with more quests and an entire expansion where you got to play as the bad guys getting their revenge on the world. I mean I get the fear of Kebab showing up on your doorstep and murdering your low T body as a developer but man slapping fucking tranny shit into everybody post 2010, it's as obnoxious as weebs dumping shitty trap characters with no fucking personality on the boards.

Bentley Smith
Bentley Smith

Actually my screen seems to small for the defaults and I can't be bothered fiddling with the config file, I don't mind having to press I and E for inventory and equipment but is there any way to open Combat Rolls in the main game window?

Easton Powell
Easton Powell

over halfway of autumn in Cataclysm
towns are pretty poor in weapons but managed to make myself some good survivor gear out of scrap kevlar
So far I'm not missing anything crucial, but I can't seem to find gunsmith kit anywhere. Where those are usually located, aside from gunsmith's shop? And how one does open those fuel tanks in gas stations with cash card system?

Luis Campbell
Luis Campbell

Why?
Blackmail, basically. Either they let Team Weimar have their way, or they make headlines for committing illegal hate crimes and everyone whose real name can be dug up gets fired and is never able to get a job again.
It's win/win for the kikes; either way, some whites who would've been able to reproduce give up on the idea (either from all-encompassing tranny propaganda or from unemployment) and another bit of white culture is gone.

Luis Baker
Luis Baker

unicorn quest done, corruptions gone. can finally continue deeper to the CoC

Cameron Scott
Cameron Scott

currently in mana temple, we'll see if I can beat this

James Long
James Long

I did it! I beat the game for second time. Here's pastebin if someone is interested: pastebin.com/6kNP5V1e

Xavier Davis
Xavier Davis

The mana temple really killed my respect for ADoM.

Justin Long
Justin Long

because of the traps and pp draining enemies? yea I can see how they could be annoying

Christopher Martinez
Christopher Martinez

Holy fuck,the first post

Angel Gray
Angel Gray

I remember reading that somebody picked up Incursion again, does anyone have a link? I dont remember if it was just bugfixes but thats still cool

also what build of DDA should I play? If I recall correctly in recent ones they added vitamin intake of all fucking things and I cant be arsed

Levi Gomez
Levi Gomez

I've become pretty adept at DCSS but recently the game just seems to want to fuck with me. I found a bunch of wights on D FUCKING TWO.

Bentley Morris
Bentley Morris

The nutrition thing is turned off by default so don't worry.

Ayden Rogers
Ayden Rogers

I don't understand user

Jayden Watson
Jayden Watson

It has mod system where you can balance the game, it automatically has nutrition system off, and you can remove the filthy clothing system if you want to use clothes immediately dropped by zombies.

Nathan Thomas
Nathan Thomas

in the occasional prepper basement
how one does open those fuel tanks in gas stations
you dont, you just drive up to one of the gas columns or whatever theyre called in burger, and then just use it with a cash card in your pocket, if you have enough moneys on you can empty the gas station completely

just grab the latest one from the launcher
keep in mund that while some shit is off by default, some isnt
if you want to build mad max style vehicles you have to enable the "huge vehicles" mod for example

Austin Morris
Austin Morris

you dont, you just drive up to one of the gas columns
I kinda wish I could steal gas from them since I got two stations in town. Then again, there's nothing else to use those cash cards on unless you don't want those damn eyebots flying around. And they're pretty good target practice.
And another thing that's getting my nerves is a lack of science labs, and the neighboring town has a fucking tank drone, thank goodness night came in so I didn't get my ass blown to bits.

Ian Gutierrez
Ian Gutierrez

eyebots
wew, I havent seen those in a while now since I always take the really bad day delayed start so theres no bolis bots or security systems

Jayden Gomez
Jayden Gomez

new game with mansion holdout scenario
start out completely surrounded, but the room has six sets of ceremonial knight armor and awl pikes
mfw going on a medieval larp rampage as a butler named Jeeves

Eli Mitchell
Eli Mitchell

I remember reading that somebody picked up Incursion again, does anyone have a link?
bitbucket.org/rmtew/incursion-roguelike/
As near as I can tell, you'd have to compile it yourself to get a version newer than the last release by the original dev.

Gavin Rodriguez
Gavin Rodriguez

knight armor and polearms
welcome to having won the game

Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright

Looks like after the original author cleaned up the code and licensing for handoff three years ago, there've pretty much just been minor bugfixes, no attempt at new features. But yeah, no binaries have been built since then, and I don't have MSVS.

Cameron Hernandez
Cameron Hernandez

pardon my ignorance on the subject but why wouldnt they release a compiled version? seems like a drag

Brandon Ramirez
Brandon Ramirez

Too silly to configure a buildbot server? Especially since it's Windows-exclusive, so there's only two targets (Win32 & Win64).

Robert Nguyen
Robert Nguyen

This actually made me want to try out playing as a Ring. I got up to CL14/down to DL7, but then my Novice Paladin got melted by a giant slug. I'm currently being worn by Robin Hood.

Kevin Mitchell
Kevin Mitchell

remember kids, when you get an item with "fireball" in it, consider that it might the DnD kind of fireball that started as fantasy replacement for fucking tabletop artillery

I just blew myself up in IVAN trying to clear out a cluster of carnivore plants, I made sure to scoot up a couple of tiles but it clearly wasnt enough

Samuel Wood
Samuel Wood

so there wasn't a clearly signed range of explosion? that sounds kind of bad design.altho' considering I like adom, I'm probablu in no position to talk

Michael Brown
Michael Brown

No, it's just that fireballs in IVAN are way more powerful things named "fireball" in most roguelikes and other CRPGs, where they're precisely 3x3. Sort of like how Marathon's rocket launcher is unlike most period FPSs' "knock down a squad" and more like "clear an entire room". Another quirk of fire in IVAN is its tendency to ignite monsters, items, and your bodyparts for extended periods of time.

Michael James
Michael James

Just aggro'd an army of zombie schoolchildren and ran them into the office-tower-turned beehive across the street. The bees are winning.

Josiah Martin
Josiah Martin

have group of friendlies I managed to befriend
give them some equipment and extra protection
have APC, only ammo missing and only needs minimal repairs
ready my team, give them orders and crash into party

cataclysm.exe stopped working

Zachary Russell
Zachary Russell

not smashing your F5 key beyond repair

Benjamin Cook
Benjamin Cook

roguelite thread got memed on because it opened by calling FTL a roguelike 3 times in the OP
now roguelite niggers are gonna show up here to talk about such great roguelikes like Nuclear Throne and Tower of Guns

Henry Gomez
Henry Gomez

Not savescumming

Jeremiah Thomas
Jeremiah Thomas

Im sure it was real in your head

Carson Parker
Carson Parker

Didn't you fucking see it?

Samuel Thomas
Samuel Thomas

No

Levi Cooper
Levi Cooper

are you blind, retarded or both?

Lucas Thompson
Lucas Thompson

I actually did, the 1st pic related was the point I made sure to save But I did forgot to do that yesterday. And I lost five days worth of action. Currently, outside the mall all the zombies have been slain which included few brutes, normal hulk, shocker hulk and a zombie master, currently heading inside.

Liam Rogers
Liam Rogers

Katana
Wouldnt using a polearm like pipe spear be a better choice?
This is what i did and i managed to clean over 300 zombies over the span of 1-2 seasons and cleaned up a whole city by just kitting zombies with my spear, basically stab, run away one tittle, stab repeat till there are no zombies visible

Jaxson Flores
Jaxson Flores

Question for C:DDA anons
Anybody has some good tips how to set up power system running in my wooden cabin?
I looted some updated solar panels from broken solar car, i also got UPS charging station, should i just make a vehicle "skeleton" outside of the cabin or is there a way to manually place solar panels on the ground and hook them up to still intact cabin furnitures like oven?

Angel Rogers
Angel Rogers

caring about weapon choices when you have buddies
I would've done nodachi or zweihander but decided to go with the katana I found. Besides, the armor I have is more than enough to withstand against normal zombies, while I have Mossberg slung to back to deal with worse enemies. That damage I got was from the aforementioned hulk and shocker hulk.

just make frame skeleton, I've never managed to power furniture so you need to find or do a RV kitchen unit if you're worried about cooking.

Elijah Flores
Elijah Flores

just make frame skeleton, I've never managed to power furniture so you need to find or do a RV kitchen unit if you're worried about cooking.
I guess this is what im gonna do, when it comes to cooking thats not a problem since i have a cooking stove in the cabin that i use for cooking
I was mostly worrying about replenishable power source since i want to get a forge up and running and all that crafting takes a lot of wielder charges

Owen Cruz
Owen Cruz

the katana is one of the faster swords, its incredibly useful even as a holdout, especially if you run around in heavy armor
nodachi is a straight upgrade if you ask me

you can either do a pseudo-vehicle outside and one inside and then just swap round storage batteries, or just clear out the cabin and build the entire thing inside with roof and all

John Hall
John Hall

you can either do a pseudo-vehicle outside and one inside and then just swap round storage batteries, or just clear out the cabin and build the entire thing inside with roof and all
Thanks for the tip, i guess this is what im gonna do
But first i gotta do a raid to a 2nd nearby city to lot its library since i need books to farm my fabrication and electronic

Juan Campbell
Juan Campbell

Is there another sister-gernre to roguelikes, besides roguelites?

Ryan Reyes
Ryan Reyes

"Roguelite" is a completely meaningless word that exists solely to trick people into buying bad games.

John Perry
John Perry

But I prefer Roguelites to Roguelike.

Mason Foster
Mason Foster

Labels do not affect reality; only the perception of the feeble-minded.

Dominic Green
Dominic Green

Then why do you give me shit for it and not him?

Levi Allen
Levi Allen

I assure you, a8e09e, my statements are applied to all of your personalities.

Luke Myers
Luke Myers

was cdda 0.D release date announced? i heard it's almost finished

Andrew Walker
Andrew Walker

Literally just noticed and wanted to delete it.
But to not make you seem insane, I am going to leave it now. I meant him of course.

Fuck, user. I just woke up and had a coffee. Don't bust my balls.

David Morales
David Morales

was becoming the author of this thread's demise part of your master plan?
you're the only one dragging this shit in here faggot

Logan Turner
Logan Turner

"roguelites" is not a sister genre to roguelikes, its a sophistry to increase video game sales by invoking likeness where there is none

But I prefer Roguelites to Roguelike.
then this is not the thread for you

David Lewis
David Lewis

where there is none
None is a bit much, don't you think? There's at least some similarities.

Joseph Cooper
Joseph Cooper

You're allowing yourself to be controlled by marketing, totally-not-a8e09e. Reject your conditioning and view the world around you objectively.

Evan Bailey
Evan Bailey

give me a gf and I do whatever you want

Jack Johnson
Jack Johnson

I don't know that your claim that the term "roguelite" has grown from marketing schemes only is altogether true. As people make games with some elements they appreciate of the roguelike genre they have to call it something, and I don't see why the term is particularly bad. It conveys both that it has some elements, but also is a light version, not the real thing. I would think even someone suffering from roguelike purity autism would appreciate that.

What would you call them then, to avoid being "controlled by marketing?"

Owen Collins
Owen Collins

Why are these hypothetical games labeled solely based on of a few elements they contain that were ostensibly borrowed from a completely different game, instead of what sorts of games they actually are? Do you think a platformer is somehow not a platformer if the player character has an HP bar?

Angel Hughes
Angel Hughes

hypothetical games
Let me help you with that! What genre would you call the following games, in as few words as possible. Feel free to use a combination of genres if that helps, but keep it simple enough that the average person can understand. No, user, "Shit Game" is not a genre
Rouge Legacy
Dead Cells
FTL
Nuclear Throne
Enter the Gungeon
Binding of Issac

Carter Rivera
Carter Rivera

But why does it trigger you so much? People make all sorts of labels that doesn't ultimately make sense. I mean, RPG games doesn't have any roleplaying elements, but people know what you talk about when you use it.

John Cruz
John Cruz

Rouge Legacy
Dead Cells
platformer
FTL
undefined strategy
Nuclear Throne
Enter the Gungeon
Binding of Issac
twin stick shooter
now fuck off

Jack Hall
Jack Hall

I haven't heard of half of those, and I could care less about the other half, so I'm mostly unable to humor you. But I'm quite familiar with Rogue Legacy; it's the game that started the entire "roguelite" shitshow.
I actually played the demo back in the day, so I can say without hesitation that Rogue Legacy is a cheap Castlevania knockoff with absolutely no features borrowed from Rogue whatsoever. At most, you could claim that it copied the meta-progress system common to the Mystery Dungeon family of roguelikes, but that's stretching a point, and the name "Rogue Legacy" was still 100% marketing.

Zachary Hill
Zachary Hill

why don't you accept our labels goy?

Wyatt Carter
Wyatt Carter

platformer
So they're just like Mario than :)
undefined
That's cheating and you know it
twin stick shooter
That's definitely applicable, but there's more to the games than that. In fact they all share a few common themes. If only we had a genre term for games with those themes, such as meta progression, and one shot runs!
could care less
I.E. you can't answer the question and/or are to afraid to defend your position, good to know
Castlevania knockoff
Ya, in the same way that any FPS is a Doom knockoff, am I right?
100% marketing
Do you honestly believe that even 10% of the people who bought the game had any idea what Rouge is? Your delusional if you think the average person has ever even heard of Rouge or would be sold by the comparison to it.

Kevin Baker
Kevin Baker

kek

Samuel Scott
Samuel Scott

I've never heard of Rouge before. When did it come out?

Zachary Butler
Zachary Butler

FTL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>undefined strategy

Julian Jackson
Julian Jackson

What is the best 7DRL and why is it TraumaRL

Grayson Green
Grayson Green

I don't even know what you are talking about.

Anthony Thompson
Anthony Thompson

What part of "now fuck off" are you too stupid to understand?

Jayden Price
Jayden Price

Don't be upset, friend, you might need to step away from the computer for a bit! :)

Anthony Martinez
Anthony Martinez

Why are people so angry and call each other faggots all the time here?
It's weird how hostile some anons are. You guys having a bad day? It wasn't always like this.

Oliver Young
Oliver Young

Because they want you to kill yourself.

Nathan Johnson
Nathan Johnson

If you're new to the whole community surrounding the roguelike genre, allow me to explain. The nature of these (admittedly great) games is such that it attracts the most autismal of autists. These people REEEE like a tendie-deprived robot at the thought of normalfags enjoying their sekrit club. Sort of like if you tell a weeb that anime is "cartoons."

Nathan Richardson
Nathan Richardson

Let me guess. They are also super salty, that their PC can't handle Skyrim and they are forced to play games with literally ASCII characters as graphics.

Liam Richardson
Liam Richardson

No. Neetbux buy the best computers, you faggot.

Asher Sanchez
Asher Sanchez

Oh no, user. It got you too.

Gavin Campbell
Gavin Campbell

Now you're just being a faggot, dude.

Asher Morris
Asher Morris

being that mad that you suck at FTL

Gabriel Kelly
Gabriel Kelly

FTL is for faggots, though.

Easton Taylor
Easton Taylor

But I've beaten it multiple times. I think it's time for you to stop posting before you make a fool of yourself.

Noah King
Noah King

I knew I was right. Holy shit, user. You just made a fool of yourself.

Dominic Russell
Dominic Russell

Wew, look at this master of undefined strategy.

Angel Jackson
Angel Jackson

stop posting before you make a fool of yourself
You're a bit late with that warning, user.

Gabriel James
Gabriel James

And you just made a faggot of yourself. Faggot.

Joseph Hughes
Joseph Hughes

You're right, my strategies cannot be defined. No one is better at FTL than me, I am King Faggot. Still can't beat a real roguelike, though. Closest I've gotten is DoomRL.

More of a fool, true.

Josiah Miller
Josiah Miller

You seem to be obsessed with faggots. No matter where you look, you see a faggot.
You know what that means, right?

Colton Powell
Colton Powell

This website's full of faggots?

Chase Rivera
Chase Rivera

DoomRL
Is that any fun? I play cataclysm these days. That's great fun at least.

You know what that means, right?
That you're a faggot? Perhaps the reason why I see faggots everywhere is because there's faggots everywhere?

Adam Ward
Adam Ward

user … come on.

Julian Long
Julian Long

Fun enough. It's a different kind of roguelike, since the focus is almost entirely on ranged combat and cover, but shotguns are blatantly the best weapon in the game because they're consistently useful the entire time, whereas other weapons take several levels to come into their own. Just expect to be doing more running and gunning than carefully exploring what your inventory does.

Jack Smith
Jack Smith

Sorry, I'll stop being a faggot my heterosexual friend.

James Williams
James Williams

user, no one likes a fag in denial.

Owen Smith
Owen Smith

play TraumaRL

John Lewis
John Lewis

people stop talking about vidya
the shitflooding stops
really makes you think

Samuel Rogers
Samuel Rogers

How's your Ring, user? no homo

Haven't gone back to Posch myself - I feel like the game gets less fun the longer a character lasts. I've been playing a romhack of Final Fantasy V that implements a timed Lufia 2 style Ancient Cave where you find jobs and spells in chests as you progress. Managed to beat the F100 boss fight on my fifth run, but it still took half a fucking age to get there. Thank fuck ASCII roguelikes don't have battle animations.

Isaiah Jackson
Isaiah Jackson

I got blinded by a trap I was trying to disarm, and Robin Hood seized the opportunity to betray me and steal my staff of illumination. I recruited a random bandit, tracked Robin Hood down, and firebolted him to death. Got my staff back, at least.
Afterward, I tried looking around the wilderness for a better ringbearer, but I ended up barely escaping from Grishnakh's orc warband. I eventually ended up with Dailai Dongzhu, Captain of Southerings. He's worked out pretty well so far. I'd rather not use a unique (they're much more willful than random mooks, as I understand it), but I don't really see any alternative at the moment.

Carter Wright
Carter Wright

Whoever thought Shady zombies were a good idea should be shot into the sun. Single biggest nuisance they've ever added to DDA.

Nathan Hall
Nathan Hall

Are there any other good "barebones" roguelikes people recommend? Some examples of the kind of thing I'm looking for are Brogue, Infra Arcana and Sil, I already know about Cogmind since it kind of fits.

Levi White
Levi White

Yeah, I'd avoid uniques personally. Maybe just go to Camelot and glitter a few times till a Knight Archer or a Paladin show up. Then you can upgrade that by fighting in the Orc Caves. Careful though, Camelot tempts you with sexy uniques like Mordred or Morganna La Fey. I think I lost at least two earlier games to those fuckers casting me off and mana bolting me.

Got any cool powers yet? Keep an eye open for Magic Arrow activations on Black Market jewellery, that spell will carry you through the early-mid game. Breathe Acid is probably going to be your other go-to power, if you can get it.

They're the ones that can see at night, right? Personally I don't mind them, they go down pretty easily.

Dogs are my current nemeses - I've been trying RBD/Tweaker, and even fucking seeing a rottweiler or skeletal dog is pretty much a gameover. Though I'm still dying even without the dogs. Mostly I have just about enough time to raid a couple of houses and put on some warm clothes before withdrawal hits and I turn into some sort of constantly-vomiting geriatric who can't walk two steps without falling over and breaking a hip. Just gotta hope a working car spawns right outside my burning house, I guess.

Noah Morgan
Noah Morgan

Earthquake and Breathe Poison are all I've gotten so far, and it'll be a while before I can use them. Thanks for the tips; I'll make a note to watch for a Magic Arrow item, and I'll check out Camelot right away since I actually need a new ringbearer again: I ran into an undead horde, which normally wouldn't have been a problem, but when I tried to heal Dailai my wand of heal monster blew up in my face, and when his health dropped below ~1/3 he threw me off and read a scroll of teleport level.
I'm not sure why the wand exploded. I understand that cursed devices can explode when used, and I got hit with "it points at you and curses" multiple times before it happened, and I've had to uncurse myself several times now so I know those curses can affect equipment, but can they also affect unequippable inventory items (which, as near as I can tell, can't be uncursed)? Also, is there any way to become immune to item cursing, or do PosChengband players just keep a stack of remove curse scrolls handy at all times?

Lincoln Martin
Lincoln Martin

Certain wands (and rods? Not sure) are cursed when generated, but you only find that out by *ID*ing them. They have a 1/6 chance to blow up each time they're used. I don't think the 'points at you and curses' kind can affect your wands.

As for the becoming immune - no, but it's resisted by your saving throw. So as your level and Wisdom rise, you shouldn't have to worry about it too much. But early game it's not a bad idea to carry a couple of remove curse scrolls around. Generally though, the stuff throwing curses around in the early game is pretty fragile, so y'know, blast it before it blasts you. And by the time you're high level you'll have found the Remove Curse active power anyway.

Shame about your wand of heal monster. But I'm surprised you didn't have more wands in that earlier screenshot you posted - you are keeping wands of light (for orc packs/caves), and checking the Black Market for half-decent offensive wands, right? Because otherwise with the crappy offenses of a Ring early game, you're going to be making slow progress. A popular, if slightly cheesy tactic, is to save up a bit of cash, buy a wand of lightning bolt or something similar (Water Bolt is great for this if you can get it), and then use potions of Resist Heat/Cold to take out a young dragon in the wilderness tiles on the edge of the mountains SE of Outpost. You get a nice bump of XP and a bit of loot, and you can quickly work your way up to killing the mature ones as well.

Anyway, I'll quit handing out unsolicited advice, but good luck and let us know how you get on with your new bearer.

Levi Wood
Levi Wood

They're the ones that can see at night, right? Personally I don't mind them, they go down pretty easily.
They do but it feels like there's a pack of them around every corner and in every house I try to loot. My usual early-game night raids are feeling pretty pointless because they always see me go into every building and start smashing the windows while I'm trying to get starting gear together.
I came back to the game after not playing it for a couple years and these faggots are the single thing killing my desire to continue.

Thomas Williams
Thomas Williams

Shady zombies are pretty fucking annoying, especially when you've just started the game and have no points in dodging or melee skills, and you don't know if they're still following you or how many there are. Sometimes it's just one, or worst cases, a pack of them. On good note, they're blind in daylight so you can pass them easily.

On another note, cleaned up the mall but it was a pretty disappointing trip. Lost one of my crew to acid zombies and there was simply nothing important, no new books or clothing. Now going for scouting trip to west, found a national guard camp. There was some guy guarding it, with SCAR-H. Now I really need some big guns to deal with them.

Isaiah Anderson
Isaiah Anderson

Camelot ended up being pretty dangerous. Even just reaching the entrance was difficult. I was barely able to escape from a band of forest trolls, and when I recalled out of there a wyvern came with me, but I was able to kill it, and after another couple of attempts I eventually made it inside Camelot proper.
I recruited the Variant Maintainer, but his armies of software bugs were more trouble than they were worth. Then I picked up a priest, but he got squished by an auto-roller. Finally, I found a paladin, grabbed him, and got out of there pronto.
Afterward, I took him on a trial run through the Stronghold dungeon (steamrolling Dailai when he showed up), and then I decided to travel to Morivant. Halfway there, I got ambushed by an army of orcs led by Golfimbul, the Hill Orc Chief. I had a big running battle with them and managed to kill them all.
Between the ring of protection Golfimbul dropped and the amulet of the magi I bought in Morivant, I now have Free Action, See Invisible, and the Summon Dragon spell (which I won't be able to cast anytime soon). Also, I *ID*ed my replacement wand of heal monster, and if this thing blows up I don't know what the heck, because I don't see anything there about it being cursed.

Luis Collins
Luis Collins

I could buy 166 scrolls of teleport for the cost of that staff of teleport. How often am I going to need to teleport, anyway?
I'm going to try to disarm this rune trap.
Hey, it's the Variant Maintainer again! I bet I can kill him, and all those other monsters that were summoned.
Several important lessons have been learned. Future games will go more smoothly.

Adrian Kelly
Adrian Kelly

Unlucky. Yeah, as a Ring, you'll be teleporting a lot. I guess that's why what you mentioned about having trouble escaping from wilderness encounters seemed strange to me; when you're toting around 30 Teleport scrolls AND a staff of it, you generally feel fairly safe above ground.

Anyway, nice to see other people playing as the more interesting races. I might dive my guy down to the bottom of Angband soon - though to be honest, getting the Countess at D50 for random quest was difficult enough. Even through the magic resistance buff, a dozen Elder Vampires spamming Darkness Ball at me hit pretty hard (though ironically one of them dropped a nice ring and I now have Darkness Storm myself as my most damaging spell).

Which version are you playing? In 6.0.0 the quests were redone, and the Inn quest now rewards like 6 pieces of jewellery, which is great for a Ring. But in 7.0.0 chris fucked up how FA and SI work (FA no longer makes you immune to paralysis), so I'm sticking with the previous version.

William Brown
William Brown

7.0.1. Downloaded it ages ago on a whim but didn't mess with it much until now. I had no idea it had problems like that; glad I didn't have to find out the hard way. I'll switch to an older version, or to one of the forks. pseudoelliposchengband looks alright.

Julian Ortiz
Julian Ortiz

CastlevaniaRL.

AliensRL.

Hudson Johnson
Hudson Johnson

Someone made a troll account on their forums claiming to be a mudslime who wanted to play the game but they were offended by the sword of jihad. Devs immediately changed the name to the zealot's sword to avoid angry goatfuckers knocking down their door. The troll account then posted that their imam told them they can't play the game anyway and they never posted again. Criticism of the decision led to forum accounts being banned.

Andrew Rodriguez
Andrew Rodriguez

Devs immediately changed the name to the zealot's sword to avoid angry goatfuckers knocking down their door.
No, they changed it because they're fucking soyboys. Acting as if they were motivated by fear (or at least, fear of anything other than Tumblr outrage) is giving them too much credit. The troll poster was just a convenient excuse. They do it for the same reason SJWs do anything; to try to control what people think.

Not like the Stone Soup devs are the only ones, either. Seems to be sadly endemic - look at CDDA for example. The main dev is cucked to all hell. He threw a shitfit because someone used the term 'pussy' on his forums, banned some guys, and then left the thread open because he said he was using it as a lightning rod to find and ban wrongthinkers.

Thomas Fisher
Thomas Fisher

(FA no longer makes you immune to paralysis),
It's some weird thing where he wants to make it remain a threat all game, so it reduces the chances of paralysis happening or something and it can stack on itself; but as far as I'm aware immunity is not possible.

Benjamin Sanders
Benjamin Sanders

play as a Draconian in DCSS
turn into a black one just after a fight where I barely came out on top
never seen this one before
try out its breath attack
a giant fuck-off storm of electricity shoots out of me
engulf myself
die

Ian Sanchez
Ian Sanchez

daily reminder that CDDA has an isometric mode

Juan Young
Juan Young

This is prime example why i don't play video games recommended on 8/v/

Chase Gray
Chase Gray

Since DCSS is constantly removing things with each new release, what would be the best build to play right now? 0.10/0.11

Also which version allowed you to constrict with nagas from level 1? I remember taking chei and steamrolling everything up to pandemonium until I got b& to abyss and dogpiled by a bunch of mutation and drain spamming faggots

Connor Sanders
Connor Sanders

This is prime example why post-birth abortion should be legalized.

Isaac Barnes
Isaac Barnes

Is the game any good though ? Is there an ending or is it just a survival gheymu.

David Wright
David Wright

start DCSS
pick Octopode
game freezes for a moment and returns to main menu
click new game again
developer removed race and class selection

game starts
explore first level
see a ring on the floor
go pick it up
when I get there it's gone
developer removed rings

spot an orc with a mace
cast flame tongue
nothing happens
developer removed spells
luckily developer also removed orcs
and maces

go down a level
move north
suddenly die
developer removed hit points
True story

Adam Campbell
Adam Campbell

cast magic dart
can't cast it
dev removed MP
o-okay I'll just play vine st-
dev removes vine stalkers just as the thought brushes my mind

Nathaniel Jones
Nathaniel Jones

year 2030
devs remove DCSS

Wyatt Brooks
Wyatt Brooks

implying they won't just replace every character with Sigmund and rename the game to Dungeon Crawl Sigmund Soup

Benjamin Miller
Benjamin Miller

not
Sigmund Sigmund Sigmund Sigmund
4 different words are not as accessible goy, we gotta make it more accessible

Noah Anderson
Noah Anderson

Extra Hearty Edition, as I linked earlier, it's a custom build of 0.14 with most of the stuff cut in intervening versions added back. Note there are no binaries, so you'll have to compile it yourself.
Also which version allowed you to constrict with nagas from level 1?
0.10, 'sez so on the wiki. Coincidentally, that version was when the cuts started.

Carter Scott
Carter Scott

Go into monsters.json and edit their vision range to half of what it is right now. I may have also edited their health to be 20% less because screw them
I swear kevin is slowly fucking up things while also playing the victim. Drove away 2 of the biggest contributors so far….

I would recommend playing the Coolthulhu's Bright Nights edition, it's back from last Nov with some bugs still present but at least it's not as shit as the latest experimental

Henry Brown
Henry Brown

game is renamed to "Sigmund"
race and class are removed, everyone is Sigmund
every enemy is also Sigmund
Welcome, Sigmund.
Will you prevail where others failed? Will you find the Orb of Sigmund?

Luis Green
Luis Green

Sigmund isn't even that tough anymore, though. I've only lost maybe 5 guys to him out of a couple hundred.

Parker Edwards
Parker Edwards

I'd be a lot more down to play it if I didn't have to go and hunt down the libraries it requires to compile myself, because the git that hosts the original libs is dead.

Oliver Perry
Oliver Perry

Pick your poison out of one of those then.

Coolthulhu's Bright Nights edition
Isn't that a mod? I'm playing an experimental from a couple of weeks ago and it pops up as one of the Core Content Packs. From what you say I assume it's no longer being worked on.

So, has Kevin finally driven off Coolthulhu then? HIs autism is slowly strangling the life out of that fucking game. No wonder his wife's an alcoholic.

Christian Bell
Christian Bell

DCSS code looks fairly well organized and easy to modify. Who'd be up for an Extra \v\hearty Edition?

Isaiah Miller
Isaiah Miller

I would pay for a (good) MoonMan roguelike

Jose Howard
Jose Howard

It's a mod, but then it also became a fork that Coolthulhu made once kevin introduced new requirements for installing bionics. Coolthulhu disappeared back in December, only to post recently (a week or so ago) that he's retiring for a while due to work. Honestly, fighting with kevin is a job in its own, I understand his desire to take a break

github.com/cataclysmbnteam/Cataclysm-BN/releases

0.8.5 is the latest C:BN

Dylan Green
Dylan Green

What exactly did you have in mind?

Colton Gonzalez
Colton Gonzalez

the only times my characters can end up dying to siggy is if he casts invis before i see him in los

Luke White
Luke White

Bringing back the old content first of all, though I'd need a comprehensive list of all that was removed preferably

Robert Hernandez
Robert Hernandez

You're just gonna bring back everything that was ever cut?

Elijah Gray
Elijah Gray

DCSS 0.21
Borgnjors Vile Clutch is really fucking good
DCSS trunk
Removed from necro starter book
Life is unfair

Christian Campbell
Christian Campbell

That's the idea

Dominic Bell
Dominic Bell

I'd need a comprehensive list of all that was removed
crawl.chaosforge.org/Category:Crawl_Versions

Landon Brooks
Landon Brooks

Sounds solid my dude. I've been attempting to compile .14 version recently and been thinking about continuing the fork of extra hearty edition, but the compiler keeps throwing errors at me, for some reason. Once I manage to fix those, I'll upload the source and the compiled extra hearty edition here, I think.

Brayden Morris
Brayden Morris

That'd be good. I thought extra hearty was missing a shitton of defunct libraries now though?

Bentley Howard
Bentley Howard

I found them. They moved from gitorious to github, you just gotta search for them then manually edit the .gitmodules when getting the lib requests. You can find them on this page: github.com/crawl

Hudson Morales
Hudson Morales

I've been playing tangledeep. Its pretty fun.

Jonathan Hernandez
Jonathan Hernandez

I vaguely remember when I compiled it a few years ago using msysGit, there was some sort of character substitution issue (carriage returns, tabs, or something), and I had to search/replace all of the source files before it worked.

Bentley Cruz
Bentley Cruz

remove the new shitskin sprites for the generic human enemy, making him only white again.
and make all the named enemies that were turned into trannies male again.
otherwise i wont play your sjw mod either

Brandon Gray
Brandon Gray

roguelike
spritepack
Found the brainlet

John Harris
John Harris

the second part still affects graphicless version.
so does the changing the item names and descriptions that were "racist" like shaolin ring.

also that image you posted is very reddit, good way to make people not want to play DF. reminds me of how i'll never ever watch jojo because of the fanbase doing shit like that

Liam Flores
Liam Flores

If the fanbase/author/culture/whatever can get in the way of your impression of the thing itself, you're acting like a hipster. Kill the hipster inside you.

Honestly, the descriptions in DCSS (especially the dry, pretentious quotes) have always felt bland and soulless, even aside from the nibbles SJW bikeshedders took out. If Nethack or ADOM's prose were H2G2 & Pratchett, DCSS's are post 2012-TV Tropes.

Jose Moore
Jose Moore

You're probably right - my compiler keeps throwing up errors for the most retarded reasons. Missing semi colons where semi colons should very obviously not be and things like that.

Adrian Lewis
Adrian Lewis

We should add our own, ironically pretentious quotes.

Noah Lee
Noah Lee

If you want maximum triggering potential, use random Mein Kampf quotes.

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Isaiah Gomez
Isaiah Gomez

Play C:DDA
Find a comfy cabin in the woods
Develop my character, have most of the skills i use at level 5-9
Dig a water well and farm some plants for infinite supply of food and water
Recruit 3 NPCs to help me craft in batches
Get infinite power thanks to updated solar car
Raid a Lab but bail out before i go deeper because the temperature there is -50C
Clean out nearby city
Clean out a nearby FEMA camp to grind my rifles and marksman ship skill

To be honest i dont know what to do anymore in the game, can anybody throw some interesting ideas?
I wanted to go to the nearest refugee camp but it was revealed so far away that it would take me year in game to reach it

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Sebastian Walker
Sebastian Walker

Find a power armor helmet, armor, and rig
explore labs to find mutabooks, rare bionics
Make a diamond weapon
Build a house with multiple floors working lights a bed working fridge and crafting room
go do the main quest and finish the farm questline.

Jaxon Barnes
Jaxon Barnes

Find a power armor helmet, armor, and rig
This might be a good idea although im going around with Ornate Gothic Armour as of now
Build a house with multiple floors working lights a bed working fridge and crafting room
Gotta do that, i will also raid a shipwreck with a plutonium generator and disassemble it soon

go do the main quest
What is the main quest? Sorry im pretty new to CDDA and thats my first successful run
I was also thinking about getting a laser rifle but i cant find a turret to dissemble anywhere

Jason Sanders
Jason Sanders

In the survival shelter you start in you can use the computer and it will give you a waypoint on the map to go to. This will have static NPCs that will give you missions.
DONT DO THE QUESTS FOR THE GOVERNMENT AGENT. Those are bugged and can have someone with a uzi spawn right in front of you and splat you in two turns.

Austin Hernandez
Austin Hernandez

In the survival shelter you start in you can use the computer and it will give you a waypoint on the map to go to. This will have static NPCs that will give you missions.
Oh, i know about this, i tried it but each time game spawned/revealed this place a good year if not more away from my place, even in my car
Its virtually impossible to get there so i gave up
I wonder if there is some way to spawn it manually on the map?

Zachary Perry
Zachary Perry

Not sure, but you did ask for something to do. Go on a roadtrip.

Adrian Green
Adrian Green

I could pump out a few reasons for why it's a terrible game but I'm tired right now. Just take my word for it unless you wanna hear autism

Anthony Ward
Anthony Ward

there are no binaries, so you'll have to compile it yourself

Hi I'm retarded how do I do that

Brody Ramirez
Brody Ramirez

github.com/tmhedberg/dcss-ehe/blob/master/crawl-ref/INSTALL.txt

Luke Stewart
Luke Stewart

I think I beat C:DDA
Once you get a full power armor of any kind (I found the Mk. II. Light version) and have plenty of bionic power and/or a method to generate power on the fly, you're invincible. I beat up hulks bare-handed using Zui Quan and heal the odd points of damage with repair nanobots.
Got over 40 bionics installed not counting power storage
Have death mobile that can run indefinitely (solar+gas, V12 engine, 500+ liters of fuel tanks)
Have food and water for years (and seeds to grow more)
Have 20+ OP guns and plenty of ammo
At this point I can raid any lab any time, laugh in the face of drone tanks, the only reason I haven't done the Necropolis is because I haven't found one yet.

Is this it? I could impose rules like not using the power armor, but my character is still rather invincible without it

Nathan Adams
Nathan Adams

Afraid so user. The game's stagnated for the past four years or so; rather than any endgame content they're just adding stupid shit like the vitamin system and more cooking recipes to add onto the six hundred they already have (of which most people will craft perhaps a dozen at most throughout all their games).

Try a mod if you want to extend the life of it a bit.

Gavin Martinez
Gavin Martinez

Afraid so user.
Well fuck me. I might have to make a fork of the game and start working on it myself.
they're just adding stupid shit
Noticed that. Comparing to the latest stable 0.C, the experimental is just a bloated piece of shit with dozens of different items in every group that all do microscopically different damage/hunger/thirst/whatever. Prime example are weapons: I spent an hour sorting through all the guns I've looted because all had different ammunition and all had microscopically different spread and damage. And I still can't settle with one weapon so I have a 250L cargo full of that shit

Carter Barnes
Carter Barnes

Fourth world in CDDA and have yet to find a hazardous waste dump
Find one but get hit with a fuckton of rads just along the perimeter
Finally make it into a hazardous waste sarcophagus without my skin falling off
Thinking I'm going to discover the deepest lore, based on all the shit I read on the terminal
Its just full of playboy mags and dead babies
mfw

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Jack Price
Jack Price

That's just it, dead babies and porn mags are the deepest lore. Now go make youtube videos about it and make 100k a year doing it.

Elijah Williams
Elijah Williams

It was interesting at first, but once you get to infinite summon spamming enemies it's just too much bullshit to want to deal with.

Dylan Cooper
Dylan Cooper

fuck. you're right.

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Lincoln Carter
Lincoln Carter

The OP lists Ascention mod my dude.
Its a total conversion of sorts that gives you an endgoal. Its also unreasonably hard because it introduces doom monsters and a bunch of magical shit into the mainline game.

Colton Williams
Colton Williams

PosChengband? Honestly, the whole Angband line is flawed in that way. The best iterations have been the ones that have changed the most drastically, like Sil and ToME4.

Currently playing with just PRM, and I've reached that point where I craft a deathmobile, clear out a couple of nearby towns, and then get all demotivated to continue. No Doom shit appears to have spawned anywhere near me, and I'm mostly immune to regular zombies with a light survivor suit + platemail combo (the low encumbrance only gives me -1 Dodge, too), but electric shit still fucks me up.

Is there any point to actually going and seeking out Doom shit? I'd probably die doing it, but honestly I'm spending more time carrying bleach and canned food from my car to my hideout than I am fighting shit, so that'd be fine.

Also, can anyone list the best (top five or so) rifles? I've found a bunch in my travels, but much like , I don't have the autism required to check for minute dispersion differences with every fucking kind of ammo etc etc. I just want a ranged alternative to my OP steel spear where I'm not unknowingly gimping myself.

Landon Johnson
Landon Johnson

if youre looking for trouble just travel around until you find it, doom shit is 50% ranged energy weapons and 50% tank, youll need a full blown power armor set and some serious firepower to remove demon

most of the guns are fluff, the rifles I found were most useful were those you can craft yourself, pneumatic salt rifle for raw DPS, pneumatic bolt driver for damage per shot, and makeshift .50 for the fact that you saw it down from the browning M2

Noah Hernandez
Noah Hernandez

The pneumatic rifles outdamage regular ones? What the fuck? I thought their main attraction was that they were silent - which seemed retarded to me, as by the point that I can make a pneumatic bolt driver I don't exactly have to worry about sneaking anywhere.

I do have an M2 though, so that's a possibility.

Hudson Walker
Hudson Walker

no they're both worse than regular rifles generally due to slow manual reload
BUT
pneumatic salt rifle can magdump for insane instant DPS enough to down a hulk, making it a defacto 3 shot shotgun on full auto, and has essentially unlimited ammo supply
bolt driver has less DPS but with steel bolts it one shots most zambies and has piercing potential as opposed to the salt ruffle, and still has unlimited ammo supply

if you have access to unlimited gunpowder supply instead, just pick your raifu and stick with it

Angel Rogers
Angel Rogers

how'd i miss thiss

William Reed
William Reed

Got out of a lab start as a technician.
It's kind of weird how you can swipe a card on the same reader inside or out.

Ethan Parker
Ethan Parker

I never figured out how to get out of the prison, the turrets just fuck you up.

Alexander Evans
Alexander Evans

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Liam Harris
Liam Harris

I'm gay and so are you so????????????
Capeshit at its finest.

Cooper Garcia
Cooper Garcia

Find a piece of furniture and push it in front of you so the turrets can't see you

Jace Watson
Jace Watson

It's his past self that the red headed menace brainwashed with her psychic powers into being gay. But Marvel tried to play it off as "teehee she just forced him out of le closet" when we all know Jean fucking broke his brain.

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Christian Howard
Christian Howard

Any suggestions as to Roguelikes I should try? Of the ones I've tried I enjoy:
Brogue
Caves of Qud
Infra Arcana
Cogmind
Sil
I didn't enjoy:
ADOM
TOME

Can't articulate entirely why I didn't enjoy them, but TOME just felt terrible, I had to jump through hoops to get it down to ASCII and then I was just getting mobbed by enemies from the start. It feels more like a hack and slash with a roguelike skin, dropped it within 10 minutes. I wanted to like ADOM but it was just uninteresting. Generally I find exploring levels engaging but it just felt like a chore in ADOM and the level geometry is terrible.

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Joseph Fisher
Joseph Fisher

Dmanhad my best run in brogue so far. after grapping the amulet of yendor, made it to D20 before I was killed by dragon.funnily, score wise the run didn't make it to top 30
The Ground Gives Way?

Brayden Smith
Brayden Smith

Dmanhad
apparently I can't type.

Connor Hill
Connor Hill

and the level geometry is terrible
Really? I'm no fan of ADOM at all but I always thought the level generation was one of the better parts, for its time at least.

As for recommendations - presumably you've tried DCSS and Cataclysm:DDA? From what you've said, you sound like you prefer 'quirky' roguelikes, so maybe DRL (DoomRL)? Its focus on ranged combat is fairly unique. Or Unreal World, I guess, but it's not my thing.

Samuel Harris
Samuel Harris

As an adom fan, honestly the level generation in normal levels feels kinda boringalso, I dislike how many of the more interesting places out right ban teleportation, because reasons

Ayden Gonzalez
Ayden Gonzalez

LOL. Did he reject her smelly advances or something?

Bentley Foster
Bentley Foster

If you like quirky roguelikes, and don't mind mandatory tiles, you might like IVAN or Elona.

Angel Gutierrez
Angel Gutierrez

Are there any nice tilesets for DF? I don't necessarily want actual pictures, and as far as I've seen all of the non-ascii tilesets for DF suck. Something like an expanded ASCII tileset that was more readable would be nice though.
TGGW seems pretty cool, thanks.
Have those on my to-play list, was mainly looking for stuff that might not be as well known. I'm not really sure how to approach DCCS though as apparently every update removes stuff and everyone has their own favorite versions to play on.

Oliver Clark
Oliver Clark

played cataclysm dda
see these thread
all of these others to choose form
Fuck, which do I do first?

Aaron Brooks
Aaron Brooks

Elona+

Jordan Cruz
Jordan Cruz

OH wait, did that too.
stuck on last floor of lesimas, send help
I want something fantasy but don't know which to choose.

Joseph Richardson
Joseph Richardson

anyone here still playing pixel dungeon?

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Christopher Reed
Christopher Reed

PD is a puzzle game pretending to be a roguelike (not quite to the same extent as say, DRoD, though), in much the same way Massive Assault is a puzzle game pretending to be a strategy game. Still a decent game, pixelshit aside.

James Gonzalez
James Gonzalez

DF adventure mode
ToME
ADoM

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Zachary Wilson
Zachary Wilson

Also, speaking of ToME
Yall nibbas seen the new trailer?

Charles Allen
Charles Allen

Of everything I played I enjoy Brogue the most, it's fairly simple and has a great UI, it's very readable due to the low amount of monsters and items and has lovely ASCII lighting effects. But of course most importantly it's a great roguelike.

Anthony Rivera
Anthony Rivera

Has DF adventure mode gotten any important updates in the last year? Also, is there any trick to finding entrances to the caverns?

Aiden Thompson
Aiden Thompson

Can someone give a quick summary of how the fuck the aim speed/sights/dispersion shit works in Cataclysm? Maybe I'm retarded but it seems needlessly complicated. I've seen allusions on the forum implying that a lower aim speed is better (and that it would better be referred to as aim cost), but in that case why does my pistol aim slower than a huge fucking rifle with a sniper scope?

I just want to know what mods to put on my RM88 battle rifle. I've already got a scope - would a rail laser sight or offset iron sights improve things in any way?

Tried to add tuned mechanism, but the fucking immutable 45 dispersion minimum just went lolno at me. Because fuck me for wanting to actually shoot things from further away than the length of a house, right?

Owen Thompson
Owen Thompson

Brogue
Going to give it a shot because you gave me a description. I'll let you know how I die first.

Jordan Garcia
Jordan Garcia

I have no idea. I just play the game like I am actually inserted in the gameworld and think about what I would do in any given situation.

Jackson Jones
Jackson Jones

Meh, I died in the end. Playing with PRM and walked into a room with a cyborg guard in it, who proceeded to one-shot me from full health through my armour with its fusion blaster.

Don't think I'll include PRM next time I play Cata, doesn't seem particularly well-balanced all things considered.

Noah Edwards
Noah Edwards

After many such deaths I learned the hard way that peeking is your friend

Henry Parker
Henry Parker

Sil

A Bastard Sword (Defender) (-2,3d3) [+2]
It cannot be harmed by the elements. It does extra damage when wielded with both hands.

What does this Defender thing do? Is it the thing that provides +2?

Chase Evans
Chase Evans

RTFM, round brackets are offense, square brackets are defense: (accuracy, damage) [evasion, damage reduction]. So in this case that weapon has a penalty of 2 to accuracy, deals 3d3 damage but provides an evasion bonus of 2.

Jordan Watson
Jordan Watson

I know that. The question is does why is the word Defender there and what does it add?

Jack Cox
Jack Cox

RTFM
doesn't even properly read the guy's single line post
wew

Yeah, Defender is the thing (an 'ego' in Angband terminology) that provides [+2]. I forget whether it doubles the existing bonus or just adds +1, though I suppose it'd only be relevant on a Quarterstaff (Defender). Anyway, they're pretty nice to use if you've got Parry.