Why is there so much blatant pro Russian or anti Russian shilling these days?

Why is there so much blatant pro Russian or anti Russian shilling these days?


What is actually going on? Seems pretty suspicious.

The cold war never ended.

It's because of the zionist-fascist-european-gay-imperialist-freemasons, they hate them for their freedom.

Trotskyists are back to their old tricks.

where? source?

Hillary got 40 million dollars from the Saudis to fight a war with Syria. Syria is allied with Russia which is also allied with Iran. Another country both the Saudis and The Israelis want taken out and which we have also done a circle of containment around with US military and allied bases.

Hillary had this opponent who won an election you may have heard about this little incident last year. Well anyway he was proposing peace with Russia which would kill her revenue stream from corrupt monarchs in the middle east. Not to say that Trump is great but on this one issue he was the saner one and the one with less harmful conflicts of interest.

Why do the Saudis want a war with Syria? Because the Russians have a monopoly on natural gas in Europe and the Saudi's want to undercut them by building their own pipeline through Syria and a few other countries to sell their own oil at a cheaper price than the Russians.

The US backed ISIS to destabilize Syria and waste Russian resources while we wait for the real war to start. They also bullied Turkey a while "covertly" to harangue them into doing the Saudi's bidding.

What I'm saying with all this is… The Democrats are clearly doing it for the well being of the free world despite the fact that this endangers are NATO allies and pushes the middle east an already volatile region into even more turmoil.

qatar wanted to build that pipeline, not saudis.

Russia is on the right track for the moment.

Well technically as major OPEC nations they both want to, but the Saudi's put up more money and basically made Hillary their Manchurian candidate to the extent that. that is believable through monetary influence.

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I was completely serious dude, look how much they care about democracy at home, they rigged no less than three primaries this past year.

Because Russia is anti-imperialist.

There's the obvious political game, but in the normie side, it's the collective schizophrenia.
Russkies were supposed to be the bad guys, but then we got arabs and ISIS, then we got Russkies vs ISIS, so the public opinion is pretty swayed and no big media has found a good propaganda strategy outside of Aleppo.

Its just different imperialists doing their usual stuff. Leftists shouldnt care about that stuff.

It's baffling really. So called communists idolizing Putin, a man who continued the legacy of Boris Yeltsin, who sold vast amounts of public property off to a tiny cabal of capitalists, essentially ending socialism in Russia.

And yet none of that matters because he gets people to remember Stalin. It's like American liberals wearing Che Guevara shirts.

Because Rayhton and all of these arms companies need Russia to be seen as a threat in order to sell more weapons.

This. The problem for the United States was that Russia was supposed to quietly acquiesce to US foreign policy goals after the collapse of the USSR, but Putin's rise ended that dream. I mean fuck, according to Yeltsin NATO was never meant to expand into the former Warsaw Pact states (who were supposed to be a neutral buffer between NATO and Russia)

Of course it's hard to criticise the US online without people assuming you're either a Putin shill posting from a basement in Omsk or you're a Dugin-worshipping Putinboo weirdo

The ruling class is preparing for war

The situation w/r/t Russian diplomacy has become ridiculously bad. It's now unquestioned (but nonetheless false) that the President of the U.S. is subordinate to the Russian government at the same time that these two countries are actually at a very tense head with each other. Meetings with the ambassador ffs and other diplomatic envoys are splashed across the front page of WaPo as allegeded treason. This is not normal politics.

Also it's instructive to look at the CIA report that stated Russia interfered with the election in favor of trump "with high confidence", when the report actually show Russia spent the election shitting on Trump and Clinton, accusing the American system as a whole of producing corrupt and insane candidates, because the bulk of this report is dedicated to an annex on RT. It reveals the ideology of the CIA and media outlets such as the WaPo and NYT, laying out clearly unacceptable positions for the pundit class to hold. These positions are things like: "fracking is harmful to human health and the natural ecosystem, but is nonetheless pursed vigorously by a profit oriented government," and "the two party system never produces a candidate that represents the interests of the people and the election is always a sham". It goes on like this for 8 pages.

Trotsky > Stalin
Khrushchev > Stalin

June 22, 1941
Never Forget

You're right there m8.

4pol has a theory… but ever since FAKE NOOZ something has changed. With fake news the western establishment tried to write off any and all 'alternative' news, including ANYTHING from Russia.

Obama was a beta fuck boy and putin ran circles around him for 8 years, putin annexed the Ukraine, pushed back nato forces, and helped assad.
Everyone treated obama with kid gloves because they were liberal faggots, but putin can smell fear.
The democratic party itself is using russia as a distraction from the fact they are out of touch neoliberal morons who lost to a wwe hall of famer, no one really cares about russia, and the democrats continue to dig their own grave.

the thing about the 2016 election is the entirety of the corporate media banded together to try and take down trump, but trump won, proving the old media is now irrelevant and has no control of the narrative.
So they started screeching about fake news, and they label anything that isnt neoliberal corporate hogwash as fake news.

Putin outwitted Obama at just about every turn, which totally busted the perception that King obongo was always the smartest man in any given political situation. That Obama was an amateur who kept getting virtually depantsed by a former KGB agent who wasn't wowed by Obama's melanin content like any other western leader was another big trigger. Would Crimea have been annexed if it was anyone other than obama? Maybe but it's far less likely. Putin sensed weakness and was able to do things no Russian president can do with an American leader.
I do think there is a deeper, more primal reason for the Russia hysteria: Putin is basically showing people that their whole world view is wrong.

Yup. And it's failing hard. The traditional media (print and news-broadcasts) continue to preach their narrative and that only they should be trusted but online its a fucking shambles. Check the comments section for just about every outlet that still allows comment, or Twitter, Reddit any of that shit. Nobody is buying it any more. Not everyone likes Russia but those who sincerely believe that Russia is conspiring to take down the US are few and far between.

though they may be right it is only working because the US public have been fed DECADES of bullshit

The end of the soviet union is viewed differently through american and Russian eyes.
To Americans it was the end of the cold war, to Russians, it was about climbing back out of the mud and getting revenge.
Obamas weakness allowed russia to reassert itself as a global player not to be ignored

I wish there was a higher resolution version of that pic.

nigga did you even look