'Sup y'all, I'm enoying the Secret of Mana remake so fa-
Aaaand into the trash it goes. Thanks again for ruining another SNES classic, Undertale.
And yes, weebos, I'm well aware that the sprite is genderless in Japanese, but that's not the point. You literally had to revise two existing lines to avoid using any specific pronouns in English, to greater effect on the audience. Are you telling me that the DIRTY SCAMMING DWARF NPC (among others) was educated with current-year PC sensitivity training? Get outta here.
Isn't "they" incredibly triggering to trannies/sjw's?
Nicholas Nguyen
If something isn't triggering to trannies/sjws it probably hasn't been brought to their attention yet.
Connor Cook
The real crime is fucking up the menu rings by centering all of them instead of placing them around their respective characters. Why fix something that wasn't broken? Also the new soundtrack is garbage.
Brandon Young
Why don't you check my dubs OP?
Lucas Fisher
That's gay and all, but how's it play?
Samuel Perez
Impressive. Very nice.
Jeremiah Gray
Yeah, i'm not seeing it. You'd actually have a case if they changed it to xim xir xoobity boop.
Dominic Price
What the fuck are you doing OP. but seriously when was this remake released? How does it play? Is it any good? Are there any actually bad instances of localization? Is the performance shit? What?
Lucas Carter
You are all missing the point
Jackson Rodriguez
Surely they don't do that with humans, r-right?
Liam Butler
It plays almost exactly like the original, including the somewhat wonky/buggy nature of movement and fighting. You'll notice a lot of game journos claiming the remake introduces new issues, but they clearly never played the original or hardly remember it. All that being said it's a very lazy remake, graphically it feels like some kind of mobile game. It doesn't really add anything to the original. I wouldn't get it at their current asking price, it's honestly worth half as much at best.
Luis Edwards
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Ian James
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Caleb Kelly
kill yourself goon
Luke Parker
but "they" is the proper word to use when you don't know what is between someone's legs. This user is right. You'd have a better case if they used those.
Didn't they fix that with a retranslation for the PC version?
Charles Torres
I see, thanks, m6.
Luke Carter
released yesterday. Plays similar but a lot of (unneeded) QoL added, if you played the SNES version it's the same game except the translation has been fixed (no longer woosley-ized), performance is good, OG soundtrack is available in options menu if you don't like the remixed music
Gavin Williams
So I played a little bit and so far the music remakes sound like shit. Do they get better or should I just switch to original soundtrack?
Brody Allen
Sprite actually looks really cute there. I like it. If the game was a mere graphical update, I'd probably consider playing it, whether that be pirated or a cheap used copy. But with all the other "improvements" they did, I'm likely just not going to bother at all. Doesn't it have an overlay of the SNES map in the corner or something?
Does anyone have any screenshots of the Princess or other cute girls?
Juan Sullivan
Is the magic system still broken as fuck?
Carter Hill
If only.
Lucas Ramirez
Snes what the fuck ever still bullshit to sell it for more that 10
Aiden Anderson
Using they as an indeterminate gender pronoun is the non-SJW way of doing it. Now delete this tumblr-tier thread and remake it to be about video games.
Oliver Anderson
Do you wish you could have sex with her 2d body user?
Luke Hernandez
Do you understand how anything works? They made a full remake of the game. New everything. They can't sell it for 10 bucks even if it is from the SNES era.
Nathaniel Campbell
Holla Forums is for fsggots
Brandon Reed
WHO GIVES A SINGLE SHIT? I dont fucking care what they did to it, how much effort was put into it and how many fags wanted it. It isnt worth it to buy a game for $40 that was released 2 decades ago. Think about the ammount of work it actually took, how much of the sprite work was done in a few weeks by a group of animators? How long do you think it takes for a seasoned veteran to remake a song? Stfu you enabling cunthole $10 max. You can buy mad max for $20 and they put a fuckload more work into that than it took to make this.
Matthew Cooper
the remake looks incredibly low effort anyways, there's no reason to play it over the original even ignoring M-M-M-MUH CENSORSHIP
Elijah Howard
so any chance of nude mods
Noah Davis
Who gives a shit? Are you really this sensitive? If you don't have bigger fish to fry, you are a fucking idiot.
Colton Reed
Supposedly you can attack 360 degrees or at least in 8 directions rather than the old four, and so can the enemies. It also takes the older mobile port enemy data being more active/faster so according to one source, fighting enemies with long range attacks suck more since they rapid spam blows to make it harder to approach. But hey, at least the menus and palettes don't glitch out, right? SoM never got a decent fan translation. The VWF hack only has the guy flourish what's already said, kinda like a lot of the text in one of the FF4 Hard Type translations. The game had the issue of being rushed through for English in less than a month with little space from not downsizing the text width, so you have chunks of dialogue truncated and many scripting errors left in.
Adrian Evans
Do not tempt me into sin satan
Joseph Brown
And back in 199X, generic "he" was far more prevalent than singular "they". First mistake is allowing the enemy to dominate language.
Wyatt Barnes
did 'they' serious do this…holy fuck? Other than that does this game flesh out some of the later dungeons that were incredibly short?
Blake Ortiz
Seeing footage, the map used is based on the mobile updated sprites, which I think many of the tiles are lifted from later Mana games or little touchups. No word if the map uses the water reflection effect
Carter Jenkins
Whether or not the map uses updated sprites isn't the issue here. It's its mere existence. It doesn't belong, doesn't need to be there, and should be entirely optional, at the least. Having it permanently sit there taking up screenspace and casualizing everything would trigger me every second of gameplay.
Also that mobile screenshot looks like hot garbage, holy shit. Mobile = cancer.
Parker Evans
Kill yourself, tumblrina. "He" is the proper word for such cases. Or "it" if you refer to an animal. "They" is plural and cannot refer to a single creature.
Elijah Brown
How did you fags laugh at nintendo cardboard? This is almost as bad
Anthony Collins
Now this is the power of autism…
Dominic Perry
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Alexander Baker
Cardboard is way, way worse. I bought it because I want to see FF1 and Chrono Trigger on PC. If the old games aren't selling no other classic's will be ported even if they are inferior versions.
Oliver Cruz
Singular they/their has existed in English since the 1300s, however, it should only be used when they aren't even present However, it shouldn't be used when someone is present, the default he should be used and the person can feel free to correct since they're right there.
David Jackson
If only tfw people have mistaken me for a girl countless times throughout my life
Samuel Sanders
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Ryder Rogers
You gonna post pics or what?
Asher Murphy
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Owen Cruz
CY+3, not astrally projecting everywhere. Shigiddybobbitydoo.
Dubs have spoken, Post pics or get out you slut.
Austin Edwards
Maybe you should stop taking hormones so you can grow a beard.
Adrian Richardson
How much soy do you consume?
Matthew Mitchell
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James Stewart
Those are some buttbabybearing hips.
Ayden Reyes
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Evan Lewis
fucking ban this nigger
Adam Edwards
Despite your remarks i think by teasing that other fag you are extremely gay yourself.
Jackson King
A cute girl?
Kevin Bell
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Lincoln Baker
No fuckin' fun allowed, jesus christ. Guess we better get back to arguing about shitty remakes.
Michael Rodriguez
One thing is for sure, the main larp of this whole website is heterosexuality
Levi James
>everyone comes here to pretend they aren't faggots Sounds about right to me.
Ayden Thomas
$40 20 year old snes gaymes
Lucas Ortiz
Maybe you should fuck off to >>>/cuteboys/
Aaron Morales
Nothing wrong with /cuteboys/ as long as you say no homo.
Michael Young
They're probably just gonna delete the thread now anyway. Oh, well.
Ryder Baker
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Jayden Gutierrez
And nothing of value will be lost.
Xavier Gray
im playing in japanese voice with luck ill finally found the secret of mana… the gender of this loli/shota thing.
but yes, SE its not hiding their jew level by asking $40 in a 25 years old game
Austin Morales
This is the gayest thread there's been on Holla Forums in the last 2 minutes.
Noah Perry
Is such a thing even possible?
Austin Richardson
only during the intervals when nobody is posting in the GG threads
Luis Rodriguez
Hmm.
And it's still probably less shitty than current triple ayy crap. Not that I'm going to buy it, since this remake doesn't seem that compelling to me, and I can always play the snes version on an emu.
Anthony Rivera
Man, mankind, humankind, humanity, manpower, etc.. these words are properly neutral, in terms of historic grammar and syntax. Ignoring that whole "language changes, Grandpa!" argument, using "they" to refer to someone neutrally is not incorrect either and has been in practice for a long fucking time.
Of course, all of this assumes that it even matters. Vast majority of people don't give a fuck about pronouns. Only uppity retards with nothing else going for them will go out of their way to bitch about having the wrong pronouns used.
Oliver Peterson
Written like a person that had to take ESL. Using they as an indeterminate gender pronoun is fine for plurality. We get it, though, you degenerates/faggots love telling everyone, at every possible opportunity, that you're degenerates/faggots.
They, the faggot translators/SJWs, should have used the words "it" and "it's" respectively.
Dylan Flores
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Carter Adams
autism
James Fisher
What in the fuck? Anyway the game is possibly worth a pirate. Especially if you've never played it or finished it. Installing it to my HDD made the game full of microstutters, but that was fixed by reinstalling to my SSD. It's only like 8GB anyway. Also recommend changing BGM to original since the remakes are crap. Lastly, the only difference in game mechanics I've noticed is that I can't seem to switch control to another character. Polite sage because this thread went to shit.
Austin Phillips
It does feature best grill.
Sounds like a ringing endorsement to stick with the original.
Aiden Thomas
They lost me at
Ryder Gray
Yeah you can mute it (Checked) Pretty much. I do like being able to attack in any direction though. There are a few more oversights I forgot though. One being that, when playing with a controller, your screen will gladly shut it self off if you haven't disabled that in your computer's power options. Another is that the mouse stays on the screen, so you have to move it to a corner. Not huge deals, but I don't get how they overlooked them.
Jordan Torres
The new soundtrack is shit, use the old one.
Jackson Peterson
I just recently replayed Secret of Mana. And while I loved it back in 1993 it's really disappointing to replay now. As a kid, I never realized how broken and unfinished the game was. Seriously there is a midpoint in the game where they just lose the plot and have your run around fighting reskins of bosses you already fought. Also, the combat is fucking garbage.
I really hope this remake actually improves the game. If its nothing more then an aesthetic update then into the trash. Personally, I sorta like the Low-Polly art style, if they fix some of the flaws and I might check this out. Did you know Secret of Mana was originally going to be a CD game but then when Nintendo stopped working with Sony Square had to salvage the project and it was split into two games? The split up project became Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger. That is why Mana is rushed because they cut the budget mid-production.
Andrew Lewis
That would imply people here have sex
Robert Russell
gadzooks, next you'll tell me Mario Bros. 2 wasn't really a Mario game
Oliver Campbell
h*ck off tumblrtale
Grayson Reed
Are you surprised? This is the world we live in. This is pretty tame considering what we usually get. Doesn't change the fact its a shit remake though.
Samuel Gonzalez
Kill yourself nigger. Your face is garbage.
Jaxon Cox
fuck off cancer
Luis Morris
Well, fuck you too, Holla Forums
Jose Bennett
Nah. Feel free to be the professor emeritus of what halfchan supports or doesn't though, you seem to have an affinity for that kind of niggerfaggotry.
It was just a cockteasing slut. has a teaser for you if you swing that way. Ya big gaymo.
Jonathan Roberts
One line in one book doesn't count, kike. English is what people speak, and in English the masculine pronouns are used as placeholders in all cases.
Lincoln Butler
Almost forgot to post this
Levi Miller
underrated post, Holla Forums ain't foolin' me, they might be foolin' la migra
Mason Nelson
Niggaz just ain't foolin Chad Warden aight
Hudson Martinez
You can't be heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual unless you have fucked a woman, a man, or a man and a woman. Virgins have no sexuality, because they are pure.
Levi Johnson
That's like saying you can't be a vore fetishist without being eaten alive.
Nicholas Collins
Not at all: fetishes are temptations, not eternal sins. All that needs to be done to turn a virgin into a truly pure being is their removal from the World. At that point, they'll never be tainted by the flesh, and never feel the temptation. Take the sacrament, join in consolamentum. *gnostic propaganda grows in intensity*
Thomas Cook
the combat inf Final Fantasy XV is gentlemanly better then Secret of Mana. Take off your nostalgia goggles!
who?
Gabriel Fisher
genuenly*
Ethan Gomez
user, there's a reason that got autocorrected…
Connor Stewart
no! Secret of Mana'scombat was boring shit and the magic is broken. The only redeeming quilt is playing with friends. But even watching paint dry is fun with friends. The issue is that the game is so easy that at times its sleep-inducing.
Samuel Price
What the fuck is this shit.
Christian Sanchez
THANK FUCKING GOD They didn't fuck up the best song ever written in video game history.
Anthony Morales
Am I supposed to get angry? Just play the original. No one has a gun to your head forcing you to play this.
Easton Rodriguez
Those digits don't lie. All I cared about was a good version of "A Wish" and I got it. I am not playing the remake though.
Kayden Campbell
Shit argument but quads so I don't know what to say.
Thomas Campbell
(nice) I have the original, doubt I'll ever see the need to play this new edition if it's just a few minor changes and HD stuff. Keep your old equipment, anons.
Jaxson Fisher
THIS IS TRUE
454ebc preemptively BTFO'd
Nathan Anderson
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Jose Anderson
You phallus prowling phablet posting phaggot. I challenge you to a gentlemanly oil wrestling match at dawn.
Owen Miller
Oh shit, I think you found the one song they did a decent job of remaking. I'm still pissed they did this to Color Of the Summer Sky though. At least the dislikes outweigh the fuck out of the likes for it, I guess.
Brayden Martinez
that's a plural pronoun you nigger, its not a misgender pronoun, that doesn't make any sense
it would indeed be more appropriate, just seems case illiteracy
its not a 25 yo game you nigger, its a remake of the same game, they need an engine, 3d models, textures and all that shit either way, not that I agree with the pricetag
why are you comparing a last year's game with a 90s game?
I agree with with you all up to that point, which is bullshit, CT was done long before that, SoM was indeed aimed for the first PS, after the split, they had to make do with the limitations of the snes which turned up to be a marvel of technology to what the snes was capable of either way the game was much more of concept of gameplay and engine, the live action fighting with rpg elements, open world, multi-characters, multi-players, etc its only fault is with the story, which was incredibly superficial
Jaxon Ross
This could have been a great opportunity to add back in all the stuff they cut the first time, even without the Chrono Trigger split there's still a lot of stuff they obviously cut, but i'm gonna go ahead and assume they didn't do that.
Daniel Scott
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea.
Hunter Gonzalez
Probably a shitskin. I could make a better fucking remake of that shit by importing a midi of the original into FL Studio and changing the soundfont
Nicholas Cox
Dear fucking god it's like they mixed it with the crazy bus theme.
Hudson Bailey
This is a fucking crime. Like someone fucking okayed this. WTF.
Brandon Ward
Holy shit it's legitimately painful to listen to.
Brody Cook
Oh shit check out this one at about 100. Dear fucking god.
Jace Mitchell
Dear god. It's like they hated every single thing about the original soundtrack and wanted to change it. Who the fuck did this?
Julian Stewart
How badly did they fuck up Meridian Dance?
Christian Evans
How do you fuck up this hard? This is some of the worst remixing i've ever heard. It sounds like they're outright missing instruments and that electric screeching shit is awful.
Xavier Brown
It's now very weak techno.
Nolan Cruz
What the fucking shit.
Camden Powell
It's like someone went out of their way to ruin the music. How did anyone think this shit is acceptable?
Bentley Clark
Nupoi is supposed to be a little boy
Gabriel Nelson
is this the new smash mouth song? because (pic related)
Dominic Cook
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Juan King
i like the expression at least
Jeremiah Foster
genuinely* genuinely* genuinely*
Juan Hill
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Brandon Richardson
After all that, CB is actually like a palate cleanser now.
Alexander Cook
The last remake was much better.
Evan Clark
Somehow i doubt that.
Josiah Campbell
Crazy Bus doesn't sound quite as bad now.
Charles Adams
Maybe this isn't real? It might be some sort of YTPMV made from some ancient sources. I listened to it once and it gave me a headache, so it's a shitty one anyway. I don't even know what to say about this, but if it's real, did they hire a talentless, deaf person to oversee their music production? Even the worst nigger would listen to this and come to a conclusion it's shit and unlistenable.
Nolan Thompson
Could have hired Koreans.
Carson Baker
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Landon Ward
Much, much better indeed.
Christian Carter
It really does remind me of the Evergrace soundtrack
Dylan Collins
Then what the fuck are you complaining about?
Sebastian Lopez
this is just a worse example of the same thing. you're not doing yourself any favours.
Matthew King
Reminds me of this
Brandon Thomas
You weren't really asking, but embed related.
I like this version. It has the same excruciatingly busy style of production as everything else the composer does, but it's not actually worse than the original in this case.
You know, you're allowed to state your actual opinion. You don't have to pretend to be retarded/autistic/whatever it is you want people to think of you when you act like you don't get it.
Jaxon Jones
I like it.
Levi Diaz
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Chase Ortiz
I like the alt boss theme. Main(?) version sucks tho.
(Anyone know what the vocals are saying at 3:15?)
Brody Rogers
A child, quite literally, called 'it".
Bentley Wilson
The alt version of this isn't half-bad, but judging from the comments, the alts don't play in-game. Too bad, they seem to be the only tolerable tracks in the whole Remake OST.
It's not human. Or dwarvish. Natch.
Luis Bennett
Is…is that supposed to be Thanato's boss music? The fuck?
Blake White
:^)
Adrian Rivera
start with this next time faggot
Jayden Ortiz
I want Fromsoft to remake THAT
Blake Jones
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Grayson Fisher
It costs as much as the super nintendo cart, and isn't as good.
Anthony Robinson
Or, OP, you could stay consistent with the original work and not make it a male or female in the localization which fundamentally changes the character. Aren't all you fucking autists complete puritans when it comes to localizations, expecting it to be as direct as possible? Or do you just want all localizations to change to YOUR tastes and only say localizations should stay true to the original when its convenient? Jesus fucking christ, I guess now we're to the point where its only satisfactory if all localizations are changed to "Hitler saving Western Civilization from the degenerates." I couldn't care less about the Secret of Dogshit remake but to get this autistically assblasted about THE LOCALIZATION BEING ACCURATE is actually pathetic. KIll yourself.
Logan Fisher
"They're a good child" is linguistic barbarism for the sake of socjus signaling.
Cooper Ortiz
It doesn't matter what it is, did or did not the original work use an English equivalent to they? I'm not going to compromise that anyone should change the original work in a localization for any sake. I don't care if faggots use "they" to describe someone or not. Why should the work ever be censored in the localization to protect your feelings whenever its faithful to the original? Explain to me how this is social justice signalling whenever this was a direct translation WITHOUT accusing the original work of the same. You can't have a direct localization and have them change this at the same time. You would be fundamentally changing the game. Localizers can either run hog wild with their "artistic choices" or they can't. Otherwise you get inaccurate piles of shit where they make whatever changes they want and even remove features and content.
Andrew Barnes
I think he's referring to the word choice. Exuberant means full of lively energy. The word that should have been used was exorbitant- unreasonably high price.
Brayden Perry
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Brayden Hill
God fucking damn it i somehow word filtered Exuberant=Exorbitant in my mind
Levi Gray
Maybe because the SD1 remake a few years back was a dual mobile/Vita game (which Square then tried to make mobile only for the west, and subsequently somehow took four additional months to port the English mobile script to the Vita and put on the PSN)? I'm just guessing this would likely use the same graphical engine.
Most games that see an English release don't get a fan retranslation unless really bad off/the fanbase autistic enough. Also doesn't help when the original translator/localizer has a cult following amongst the playerbase out here, who don't necessarily want to see things changed.
If any faggots here are actually playing the game, report back who's listed in the credits as "arrangement" or whatever.
Wyatt Howard
You mean Woolsey? The games he translated are some of the very few that ever got a retranslation in the first place. It's just when it happened, most of them were garbage though, and not necessarily more faithful to the script, they just kind of rewrite shit to add swear words. Wonder if that chrono trigger translation is worth a shit.
Xavier Gomez
Seriously this version looks soulless as fuck. Better off emulating the original.
William Wood
It's so bizarre to hear these from that game when it also has songs like this.
Ryan Morris
Also this.
Juan Martinez
Reminder that the guy who did this went on to do most if not all of Armored Core's soundrack, and seemingly stopped producing music when the games ended.
Andrew Butler
Might have gone on to do cinema/TV music or gone mainstream. The latter is what happened to Naruke, which is a blessing for the glorious lady.
Caleb Myers
waste of quads, you should be angry that they're disgracing the original to fleece people who had passion for it into throwing money at them for work made on the backs of giants
Bentley Rogers
fucking retard
Henry Sanders
I don't see what is wrong with it? The character is quite clearly androgynous.
Andrew Russell
I suppose Square games would be popular for doing so for given Square's been "the face" of JRPGs in the west, but as you've said, the retranslations aren't exactly proper either at times. Was speaking more of the likes of Breath of Fire II or Ar Tonelico 2, where the original scripts were horrendous and the outright goal for the patches was to actually have a much more faithful English version for western fans to enjoy them with. As for Woolsey, in some part, I'd say Square's as much to blame for not giving him more time to work on scripts, and not providing tools that would result in less trimming (admittedly I'm not sure when VWF fully got adopted for video games), but at the same time he did see fit to make his own changes at points. Western-Kefka being a huge example. I just know that certain people, like him or Vic Ireland, can have really diehard fans at times, which might impede proper fan retranslation efforts for particular games if they make it seem like it's just not that desired (like how the Lunar games haven't seen any fan retranslation efforts, at least that I'm aware of).
You mean the official DS retranslation, or an SNES fan retranslation? I'm assuming the latter given the context, but still.
Always nice to see other anons like her work. Real shame Nora to Toki never came west, but you don't need an English release to enjoy a good OST rip, I suppose.
Nolan Powell
that alt-Danger you posted is decent, but here is the actual version just heard it, holy fuck what a butcher job
Caleb Hughes
I get it now. The entire game is an awful prank.
James Reed
It's like the nintendo cardboard box. The japs are intentionally making shit to mock the gaijin.
Evan Harris
Yeah, still find it funny that the composer for bomberman went on to perform sandnigger IRL bomberman music.
The snes retranslation. WD fans are on another level though. Woolsey's fans could never be able to bully a translation company to reuse the script from a game like that.
Grayson Diaz
Nasir Gebelli is rolling in his grave
Elijah Evans
But he's not dead.
Justin Smith
he is after seeing this remake
Julian Flores
Square Enix shills.
Sebastian Johnson
You're either Male or Female, being androgynous doesn't matter. "They" is only temporary.
Easton Reyes
OP is a shill.
I wouldn't touch this game with a ten-foot pole with a rating like that to accompany an equally appalling price tag. I'd barely pay $15 for this game.
No fucking way on this gay earth that I can justify spending any amount of money on this bastardization of a classic unless that score gets up to "very positive" or "overwhelmingly positive".
Jack Rogers
Its just another lazy Vita port, every single game for that console is fucking ugly and the hardware was capable of way more.
Jack Lewis
Holy shit I am listening to the OST on YouTube and I am seriously disgusted at what they did to it. How is it possible that the OST of the original game made 25 years ago is STILL better than a remake in the current year? They fucked the lich (Oracle) themein the ass hardcore. The rest is shit, too. Holy shit what the fuck were they thinking by releasing this trash?
Asher Lee
19 minute mark is the credits At around 21 minutes the music credits start, Hiroki Kikuta is listed as original composer, though that probably means nothing in this case, everyone else is listed as Arrangement, and apparently Yuzo Koshiro did some of the music for this game. How in the fuck did they go so wrong.
Elijah Reyes
I have to find and rape whoever started this remake everything meme
David Williams
Going through this a bit more an these are the names that seem to repeat So it's mostly Touhou shitters taking a dump. I don't know what the fuck Shangri-la inc is exactly, but one of their employees actually responsible for arranging the music(Sachiko Miyano) is responsible for shit like: Metroid Other M, Final Fantasy 13-2 electric boogaloo and Final Fantasy 15.
Justin Wright
Is this normal for this composer?
Hunter Peterson
She was a kobold girl in the German translation, and I prefered it this way.
Jose James
This is one case where it's deserved, because it would've been the best opportunity to at least put back in the content cut from the CD-I to SNES transition. I think remakes are fine when they're done in a way saying "This is what the developers really wanted, but with less limitations." Which, again, would've been perfect for Secret of Mana. But no, it didn't happen.
Matthew Phillips
Modern remakes miss the point of remaking because companies figured out that lazy consumers will still purchase the same repackaged product over and over again. Just look at Shadow of the Colossus PS4.
Well damn, those miserable localipologists got BTFO'd. Adventures of Mana did similar off-putting tongue in cheek shit to the script that distilled the original. Have a cute Primm as your reward, user.
William Taylor
It's a fantasy game, applying real world science to it is retarded. The sprite is and has always been genderless. If you're an SJW you break out muh pronouns because it's about being a special snowflake and getting the privilege to speak like a retard. If you're a regular english speaker you use they because it's quick and convenient. Or if you feel like imitating the french, you could use "him" because the male has priority. Funnily enough, before "they" was used, leftists were trying to make "her" the default pronoun. The use of they is an improvement over that.
Connor Richardson
Nigger that counts for most fucking countries. Stop being dumb.
Ayden Sanders
何
Colton Collins
Speak american
Ryan Rivera
If anything this is a significant downgrade from the original. The only added content is the little scenes at the inn where the characters chat about random stuff. Even then there are tons of them and they get annoying when you're just going for MP refills to grind magic.
Tyler Torres
I THOUGHT the scene telling me to go to the Dwarf Village after hitting the inn at the Dwarf Village was out of place… (Seriously, did no one proofread this shit?)
Mason Torres
are you telling me they didn't flesh out the game? Then why even bother with a remake
Nathan Murphy
Hey, remember that super nintendo game? We did it again, but with shitty voice acting worse music packed in an all around inferior product. Thatll be 40 burger shekels goy, and dont forget to pick up the EXCLUSIVE LIMITED EDITION PHYSICAL only at gamestop.
Jaxon Scott
Supposedly, the developers are considering finally making a Seiken Densetsu 5 if the remakes do well enough (they redid Final Fantasy Adventure as Adventures of Mana two years ago - a far better game than Sword of Mana, which I'm pretty sure killed the series).
Personally, though, I take it as Square Enix PR dangling a fake carrot in front of old fans.
Henry Ross
"You'd better buy this shitty game if you ever want to see your precious series again!" I've been sick of this for awhile now, and I don't negotiate with threats like this. If this is the kind of product they're offering, the series is better off dead and buried.
Austin Long
The chat events get "backlogged" because there are an insane amount of them. I don't think even the shittiest casual in the world would stay at an inn as often as the game seems to expect.
Caleb Howard
You should have been able to tell it was trash from the CG graphics change and voice acting of the steam trailer alone you stupid faggot
Hunter Williams
yeah, sword of mana was kinda meh
Aaron Turner
Not only did they not flesh out the game, it has LESS content and MORE bugs/flaws.
And that's off the top of my head. The game is a downgrade of the snes version, ESPECIALLY the graphics and sound. This is a shitty cash out of the worst kind. Plain and simple.
Zachary Torres
What was it?
Robert Sanders
Also In retrospect, it's better if it stays tucked away in the past and on my Vita,w here nobody will touch it.
Andrew Young
>There are people defending the SotC remake on this board
Jayden Wood
Apparently the original composer DID do some arrangements for this game. Vid related. Sounds decent enough compared to the rest of the track, but man does it completely miss the point of the original sound to make it sound orchestral.
Julian Brooks
I've actually been having fun with this cashgrab. I've gotten farther than I ever did on the SNES version. Didn't pay for it of course.
Connor Phillips
That's probably one of the only decent songs so far, and you hit the nail right on the head as to why it's still flawed. Even then I still don't know why at least half the new arrangements are offensively bad, or how any of that was okayed.
Brandon Lee
I've been looking into this shit, found the soundtrack CD for it on vgmdb.net and been looking up who did what, for example was done by a guy who's only concrete credit in games i can find is fucking Persona 4 Dancing All Night, a game centered around Disco/Electronic music.
Brody Garcia
I'm tempted to pirate it anyways just to see how hard they fucked shit up. Secret of Mana is one of my favorite games and i would have loved a real remake, but not this shit.
Joshua Long
What did the SOTC remake fuck up?
Daniel Hernandez
nothing really, changed controls a bit, it even did some details better, but of course its console exclusive so leave it to the people that can't play it and the omni contrarians here to hate on it.
Chase Torres
DIGITS HAVE SPOKEN
Matthew Cruz
im afraid youre just a retard then
Luis Parker
Holy shit, do you have an humiliation fetish?
Robert Ward
Wait how do you fuck up this hard?
Anthony Brown
The official remake is a fucking disgrace, but if you like MAGFest bands then there's a 3 CD remix of all of the mana tracks called Spectrum of Mana. I havent listened to the full thing in years but it didnt make me want to choke a bitch over it like Nu3d-Mana does.
Austin Richardson
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Dominic Martinez
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Adam Morris
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Adam Sullivan
if youre still around heres one for ya, i feel your pain
Carson Hall
Linguistically "they" is appropriate for an androgynous or unknown individual. No if you hate being called a he or she you can't call yourself a they retard
Parker Russell
Also and this is kind of expanding on the whole linguistics of pronouns thing, the point of he/she/it/they is for a secondary party to identify something observed based on their perspective and is not actually part of what would be considered "your" identity, and I find it endlessly infuriating that for some reason retards think it is and it's completely fucked up identifying something sentient and androgynous because of retarded gender theory made by a faggot commie who drove a man with a botched circumcision to suicide for money, WHO'S ACTUAL FUCKING LAST NAME WAS MONEY
Luke Collins
That being said, for actual problems with the remake, it is looking kind of shit.
Oliver Edwards
Wait, so let me get this straight. You're telling me that one of the greatest classic SNES RPGs ever made - a game that still somehow resonated with gamers despite the English space limitations and severe time constraints that caused the translator to drop approximately forty-fucking-percent of whatever the shit any-goddamn-one was saying at any given moment - finally has an incredible chance to right this outstanding wrong (especially since it, very miraculously, flew under the radar of fan-translators)…and the modern localizers stunningly waste this magical opportunity on fucking "they" pronouns and retarded attempts at abridged-tier humor?! Fuck this gay earth up the ass.
Grayson Moore
>liking (((Ichigo))) the true spider
Hudson Wood
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Kayden Jones
I can understand it might be fun to let other people do their own takes on music, but it's probably best saved for general arranged OSTs that aren't used in games themselves. Probably should have just let Kikuta arrange his own themes solo for the entire game once more. Especially when the original version of said game is a big part of what a given composer is known for. That said, Kikuta seems to be stuck mostly getting work from indieshitters these days (Indivisible, Unraveled, YIIk, Pixel Noir), and for non-indie games winds up just one of a number of people involved with the OSTs (like this remake). For all I know, I might feel lucky just to be allowed to do a couple of official arrangements.
On a somewhat related note, I checked to see if the Kikuta thread on /vr/ was still up, since I remembered an user dumping The Lost Files in a mega there. Thread's still up, but the mega got nuked (to be fair, it was over two years back that it was uploaded).
Blake James
What is really funny about the whole thing is they got so lazy with copypaste there are several instances of dialogue that refer to the sprite as he/him again because they couldn't be bothered to edit all the old shit and update it with their PC pronouns. This remake is so lazy even the PC garbage they tried to throw in was lazily implemented. It's a sad joke.
Sebastian Howard
I don't like it, but at least it's not as bad as some of the others that have been posted. Why didn't they just remaster the original tracks in higher fidelity audio? There's absolutely nothing wrong with the original tracks.
Henry Robinson
For comparison, the original
Jaxson Watson
What if I told you… it was always a Mario game?
Levi Brooks
Doki Doki Panic had nothing to do with Mario. That whole "Doki Doki Panic was a Mario prototype all along" nonsense was a half-truth twisted to get clicks on dying sites - in reality, the tech demo was only said to be a Mario-style platformer.
In other words, Fake News.
Jack Bennett
Super Mario Bros 2 is literally Doki Doki Panic reskinned for Western audiences, are you fucking retarded?
Elijah Wood
Perfectly valid question. Never change reddit, you faggot white knights.
Jeremiah Sanders
Not disputing that, dipshit. Read again carefully.
Eli Martinez
My bad, and you're right, they were two completely unrelated projects.
Kayden Robinson
Yeah there's some real monkey's paw shit right there, you get the chance to make your own dream game but it gets fucked by your dev team who wants to just make a final fantasy RPG, then when you resign from the company, it's almost as if the entire industry blacklisted you.
Damn, forgot /vr/ was even still around after the board OP tried to move everything to another chan, wonder if it still has any users
Mason Nelson
Main point is that in some fantasy stories fictional races have alien pronouns. The point is that they are not humans, so the writers made up weird pronouns to emphasize the alien nature of the race. To translate that to "modern tumblr audience" you would have to make even sillier, and weirder, pronouns to make the intended effect, or just kill yourself.
Unfortunately, there is simply no way to win in this scenario. You either go full retard or burn the building while inside it.
Jace Wright
To be honest I've never finished portal. I thought it was a boring game.
I cosplayed as Naked Snake and had never even touched a metal gear game. I only did because it was probably the only thing I could physically pull off
Charles Perry
Why don't you show us your naked snake user~
Parker Watson
Yeah, kind of sad that it took him half a decade to get back into things, and even then it was composing for eroge before he could get back to vidya proper (although its worth noting an MMO he'd apparently spent years composing for wound up cancelled between Koudelka and Sora no Iro, Mizu no Iro). Still, I liked Koudelka as well as the successors he didn't work on, so he at least inspired a good series even if the original was considered hit or miss worldwide and a compromised vision at that.
The board owner seems to have vacated, or perhaps logs in enough to keep the board but doesn't seem to do much about spam. And no, the board on the whole is pretty much dead, much like any non-Holla Forums vidya board that I'm aware of here is.
Leo Gray
Cancelled and never even released at that, actually.
William Smith
So another butchered remake in a sea of butchered remakes, I take it?
Dominic Evans
You are accusing others of your own problems user.
Jacob Richardson
What a shitshow.
Ian Walker
Just a heads up, you unlock the DLC by opening your game directory, opening steam_emu.ini and changing "DLCUnlockall=0" to "DLCUnlockall=1"
Nicholas Garcia
MASTERFUL CODE
Josiah Cook
Do you hack the Matrix with those skills?
Ayden Lewis
a masterpiece aware of the sounds the sony chip and the midi format can create, and using the tools given to create something unique, given what they have to cook
a sterile remake of a composition which is especially made with certain tools in mind. They should've respected the tunes and use tools to mimic the same chimes and sound as the sony chip while upping the quality. Conversely they could've done an orchestrated version. But no. no upgrade to the soundtrack. No finishing what they couldn't initially when the game was rushed or limited to the SNES. They just fucking made some shitty rearrange trying to be hip and modern and lazily copy pasted the snes game to 3D. Not even any new post game content. This is a cashgrab in every way of the word.
Jace Walker
I thought Russians weren't allowed to post on this board.
John Sanchez
They probably don't even have the sheets anymore.
Doubt people that played the original are interested in this one, and i don't think that was their intended target either, they probably knew that.
It's better than those FF remakes with mobile game sprites though.
Blake Ortiz
They are hitting nostalgia bucks as a positive externality in their marketing, user. You'd be surprised how many plebs fall for it. After all, japan's most liked anime is Sword Art Online. The masses don't have the standards of people on this board
Nathan Peterson
Just watch, three days later there's going to be a screencap of this thread showing how dum gamer dudebros are mad at the new SoM remake and you should buy it to spite them
Nathan Gonzalez
This is a crime
Wyatt Bailey
This sounds like Rareware's Killer instinct tracks
Jonathan Hernandez
i fuckin haxxor'd your mom's ass last night
Jonathan Miller
From what I can tell after having played all three…
Jonathan Morris
Sword of Mana a shit.
Henry Hill
> pirate it to check it out Wtf is this. Is it just my game? This couldn't be the case in the original, right?
Gabriel Bennett
That's exactly how the original worked. Individual attacks are staggered, and exploiting that can basically keep non-boss enemies in stunlock. The same applies with magic: You could cast a spell, recast it before the animation for it completed, and keep doing that over and over. The full damage of your spells will be delayed until your final cast, but for the entire duration of this the enemy is incapable of moving or attacking.
Also, both of the above applies to the player, too. If an enemy manages to get you stuck in a corner, they can theoretically keep you permanently in stun lock. Certain bosses have a much easier time doing this than others. And of course enemies casting spells on you will prevent you from moving or attacking once the animation starts.
Asher Ross
There are already people writing blogs and autistically screeching that critics of the remake are blinded by nostalgia and they should be grateful that squeenix released a $40 remake with a butchered soundtrack, less detailed graphics, and 10X more glitches and bugs than the original. Modern video games are terrible because faggots can't resist the taste of unwashed publisher dick. SoM remake takes everything bad from the original and adds everything bad about modern releases in one super-overpriced package, and people defend it.
Noah Brown
Reminder that this is the future you clamored for
Colton Adams
make a new game fags
Liam Foster
Fuck off, shit shill.
Noah Myers
the music is off key in the trailer
Caleb Murphy
Good, not great, but an unfinished game from over 15 years ago should not look and sound better than an official remake now.
Michael Reed
I'm not saying the mana remake sounds good (although the option for the original OST is nice) but they both suck.
Lincoln Reyes
You don't deserve those digits, faggot.
Logan Ross
I miss the days when I got worked up about dumb shit like this. Too bad I grew up and got actual things to worry about.
Isaac Price
The complaints about the music are dead on. With a few exceptions most of the new tracks are pure garbage. It doesn't take much explaining to see that, either, since all of the music is already available online. The complaints about the graphics have been bothering me, though. I can get that the art style the series has wouldn't be to everyone's tastes, but I've seen shit like complaining that the remake isn't as gritty as the original. Since fucking when did the Seiken Densetsu series ever look gritty? What the fuck are people expecting the game to look like?
One autist's passion project is bound to look better than anything actually intended for release. He doesn't have to compromise on model, texture, lighting, or sound quality to make sure it can actually run at 60fps. Though, most modern developers can't even get their games running at 30fps without frame drops while looking halfway decent, either, so it's a moot point.
Robert Reed
And yet you post here
Camden Campbell
You're thinking of 'it'.
Elijah Russell
Like responding to Anons who are worked up to tell them how grown up and above it all you are. It's pretty stupid to try and convince us you have so many higher concerns on your plate when you're here arguing about the things that are supposedly so beneath your concern.
Jaxon Wright
Rarely. I mostly just lurk these days. Anywhat, as was said a million times before, the original doesn't magically stop existing. As far as I can tell, there's literally no reason to play, let alone purchase, this iteration of this game. It might as well not exist as far as I'm concerned. What's old is new again, forever and ever.
Nicholas Turner
Go back to Cuckchan faggot
Jaxon Jenkins
Nice digits, friendo. Don't mind me, just reminiscing on how I used to feel. I suppose I could've chosen my words better, so as to not seem like such an enormous faggot. Eh, in any case, you're right. Not much to do on a holiday like this but do lame things like laundry and browse shitposts. I'll leave you all to it.
Justin Gonzalez
Watch out! Your testosterone is showing, you might need another dose of estrogen!
Noah Gray
>vgmdb.net/album/73689 I kind of want to hear the rest of this guy's shit out of morbid curiosity now.
Kevin Scott
How? I thought faggots loved all those rehashes?
Joseph Miller
'cause WE WUZ.
Alexander Torres
Not that it did or didn't sell poorly, but that's the number of concurrent players. Though with the all-time high for Asscreed Origins being so low, I wouldn't be surprised if it sold like shit.
Lincoln Johnson
That was my point. Okay-tier nu-graphics remakes to refresh the classics for a new generation are fine, in fact the handheld 3D remakes of old FF & DQ games Squeenix started making soon after they stomped on CT Resurrection and then made crappy low-effort port when they finally got around to CT are good examples of that.
Even the rank incompetence of the translation and musical remix are ultimately minor issues, trivially fixed by modders if anyone really cares that much.
The only complaints in this thread I find legitimate are >>14340086 about how this opportunity to take what in the early 90s was a Shenmue-tier dream project, but would now be a slightly below average AAA game, and put the pieces back together right, was utterly wasted reproducing the hashwork squeezed into that SNES cart.
Reminder it was the second rev of a project originally intended for the N64
Ian Moore
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Justin Flores
You really don't. This guy reeks of postmodernism.
Aiden Morris
what the heck are you doing HERE of all places, meta
Jacob Johnson
This game looks like fucking trash. The original looks way better.
Charles Flores
forever underage
Gavin Cruz
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Cameron Rivera
The 3D remake of FF3 is significantly better than the NES version and if you think otherwise you're fucking stupid.
You probably didn't even read the review otherwise you'd realize the person that wrote it is a fucking moron. The only legitimate point he brings up is the limitation they made on enemies, everything else is clearly just the author being shit at video games.
Christopher King
The DS remake of 3 wasn't even harder than the NES original. On average it was easier simply because you had less enemies to deal with, and outside of the final two dungeons you didn't really run into common enemies that benefited from having more HP or getting to attack twice. Those final two dungeons were fucking cancer, though. Especially when it came to bosses, and especially Cerberus with his three fucking hits per turn.
Colton Morgan
Every single change to the game's monsters actually a pose a significant problem for an RPG heralded for its gameplay. There's hardly any other way of looking at it other than an attempt at making the game patently unfun. If you think superficial shit like the characters now having the depth of bricks instead of pieces of cardboard handedly offsets that criticism, you were never a fan of oldschool Final Fantasy.
Reminder that we almost got a real remake of the actual game.
Owen Kelly
the retardation of western audiences, everyone. you deserve every shitty and inaccurate translation you get. that way your feelings are safe.
Austin Anderson
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Xavier Hall
If you'd read through this thread, you'd know in several ways that the remake's translation is nearly as shitty and inaccurate as the original, if not moreso.
Not to mention, even if you have shit taste and somehow tolerate the "remastered" music (though there's a toggle), the remake is objectively worse as outlined.
Get it only if you badly need to see Primm in a sexy tiger bikini which, thanks to the game's shit coding, is readily available for everyone who didn't get DLC.
Unless, of course, you're this fellow.
Nathaniel Brooks
Wait, you liked your rings getting cut off on the corner of the screen?
Michael Sullivan
What the fuck? Why?
Hudson Moore
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Anthony Richardson
Speaking of the Lich theme, Dark Oracle, this is what they did to it in detail. Honestly if this were a different game that didn't have a legacy, it'd be serviceable, maybe.
But what the composer did was cover up the original Balinese orchestra style and "tchek tchek" chanting melody with a very loud extra baseline, a second melody and a loud yell from another singer. The result is that there's no clear melody and it's more of an assault on the ears, and the ORIGINAL melody takes a backseat to the new melody in regards to sound balance. It comes off as arrogant, there's no respect for the original theme.
The original had a simple melody and focused around that, using the strange instrument and vocal choice to characterize the song, which stood out among the soundtrack since nothing else did that and it made the boss memorable.
Jason Hughes
Like imagine this song getting a retread and instead of using real instrumentation instead of MIDI, they added fucking dubstep to the music. That's basically what they did.
Jordan Myers
But Word of God is right and you are wrong!
Checkmate, autists!!
Anthony James
If they ever fucked up SotN's ost I'd fucking go school shooter.
Jeremiah Gray
FBI please.
Camden Morales
It's like the part from 1:15 to 1:45 was composed by someone completely different, the fuck.
Alexander Gutierrez
Holy shit that sounds like its a Midi file. Like how could any self respecting artist create something this terrible ?
Landon Morris
I want to find SupaPixelGirl, romance her, fuck her, love her and give her many childs.
Carson Wright
I want to fuck ProtoMagicalGirl in the crotch wound, adopt a child with >her, and leave them both behind