What is Holla Forums opinion on this

WALLTEXT WARNING, forgive me…
You know, I always wondered and since I am drunk, I will gonna ask anyway even thought this will become a huge pile of garbage aside from a few good posts like always…You know, what I see is wasted potential over here, I mean, there is so much good minds over here, so WHY we see some horrible gamestations posted in here (some are GREAT but if you are not retarded, you will understand you are not the case)?! Because some of you, that indeed have good minds, great thinking and good rhetoric are poor, okay…BUT….WHY?! Dudes, you are self-taught, you guys are learning moon language by yourselves for fucks sake! Do you think it's easy to learn 3 thousands different ideograms?! Do you think most of the heads on gaming industry could learn self-taught moon language or could apply self-taugh program writing?! Do you think gaming journalists could do that? So WHY isn’t you guys doing what must be done? Yk…I would prefer 10000x better YOU guys giving reviews for games than the guys actually doing it….And probably just not me, but ALL the lurkers over here would prefer that, or else we wouldn’t come here for discussion and would go to idk…Ign, gamespot and all this bought shit… Ik that some people over here are real devs, or working on become one, some are shills, some are authentic autists, but I am asking the borderline autistics, and borderline normies, because there are NO normies over here and we all know that is truth…
Me, well it really doesn’t matter but what I did was set my ambitions on the lower level, and I am okay with it, I do what I want, I work as little as possible to have money to spend on stuff that I want, if I can’t spend, for example on a shitty smartphone game EA tier made to milk every last of my fucking shekels, expecting for me to waste thousands of dollars to upgrade a char… Well…I hack the thing….But I have money to buy the things that I want/can in the future, and I am not poor, have a good gamerstation and this is a lot, thinking it’s a fucking hobbie…Worldwide thinking because shit are expensive if you are not in the center of things, you wouldn’t believe… But, fuck that, I am happy with me, but I think, for some people over here, that doesn’t have wife and kids, no money…It’s not cool, it’s a waste of potential….ik…You HAVE BRAINS, you are entitled to USE it! If you are afraid of failure…well, tough love, if you still live with your parents after college or if not studying and +20 you already have failed… Please explain, why your situation is bad even thought you have brains because I love to understand these things, and if I can help, I will.

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Come back when you're sober.

I know meme spacing is the hot new meme, but there's nothing wrong with separating into a few paragraphs, that's all I'm saying.

My over protective parents, and an over bearing goverment robbed me of my will, and now I just wait for death.

Get the fuck out and never come back here you massive faggot.

Botched circumcision, add meds thew elementary, to be replaced with antidepressants then anti anxiety meds. game school i signed up for when bouncing thew meds is a giant hole in my memory along with huge sections of my childhood.

i blame the jews for being a 24 year old kiss less virgin that cant keep track of what the fuck is going on let alone keep down a job.

>tfw over protective single mom "homeschooled" me. now I'm an adult with nothing but a GED (probably a sub 100 IQ, but I don't want to find out) and irrational anxiety about the most basic fucking social interactions. I don't even know what to do

NO DRUGS
NO ALCOHOL
NO CIGARETTES

YOU HAVE TO GO BACK

oy vey

Everyone's situation is bad because of jews, and the only thing that will help is genocide.

Aren't you the Russian Bartender RP'er from the last friday night thread?

Just stand still as I deal with you, you donkey.

After having drunk-skimmed your wall of text:
I am poor because I hated being a businessman and being a slave is simply not an option for me. I am not making (sharing, to be exact) games because the last 10% that separate a personal project from a marketable product make up 90% of the work, without providing me anything I care about in return.

Jews must die with extreme prejudice. Those fucking rats trying to pass off as white are actively killing us.

Heh, that's cute

Where I live there is nothing. No jobs, no women, just drugs and hippies and old people. Fuck me.

I'm a 42 year old lawyer. I have no desire to make video games. I barely play videogames these days. I just enjoy shitting on shit devs, gives me the same feeling I do when I shit on a witness on the stand. Feels great.

redpill me

Kill the Jew who made this a reality. Fuck, instead get to the nearest biggest city and mow down a synagogue. They are all to blame.


Kill yourself too, fucking kike.

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Oh, and I can't/shouldn't have children because of shitty genes, so I lack the most important motivation to improve my economic situation, anyway.

Normal people can't stand this place because they don't understand the answers, they would get pissed on the first hateful reply…Kill all the jews/chinks/niggers/snowmonkeys/etc…thing…well i find it funny because hate in a race is just utter failure of own ego/ you really DO believe that there is always a jew/chink/nigger next door plotting against your future and that's why bad things happen to you! (lol), but normal people would just try to sue /arrest you…but for all the trouble, they would just prefer to leave and badmouth you lot, and they do that….So…

I think what OP user meant was that there is not enough good critisism of games nowdays even if there are places like this with autismos that could easily write great reviews of games, create good games or just make a mod or wiki article with their opinion being better than 90% of the shit out there. He is just pissed that everyone here complains about the indestry being shit while no one actually tries to fix it even if we could.

Even if they didn't then it would just be too hard to try and understand the answers. But even then I think the biggest reason is that normalfags just don't care about the things we do, you could so them the truth and all the shit and crime going on and if they could still play skyrim, smoke weed and watch anime then they would be content.

This, but i do think it's a waste of potential and i would like to understand people, but thist is part of the reason, yes, good point, that's what i was talking about :)

Get gassed. Niggers, chinks and kikes have no place where whites are and that includes the internet.

yeah, that too, good point

You can't "fix" it.
The jews fund all the popular sites that just push whatever the game companies want them to push. No-one is going to visit your random blog that only publishes articles once every other month. The only chance you have is probably youtube, but even then they have their own army of youtube ecelebs that will push whatever they're given.

I don't care about writing long form criticism because posting on imageboards already reaches the people I care about. I don't care about changing the industry because it's very existence is what ruined our hobby.

you need to get wasted, yk, suffer huge ammounts of shame, to brake the ego that you built around yourself, and then remake a new one…It's great to do that, getting wasted…yk…It's fun because you are improving yourself, having fun (by yourself) AND everybody else is thinikng wtf are you doing…yeah…Fuck other people…You are rebuilding yourself, they won't understand (normies), fuck them…

okay…good point.

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kikes push circumcision until it is common place in the US so i lost a part of my dick (weather it was them trying to convince people to keep letting them do it to their own kids or some malicious action the responsibility lays on them)

Don't be mean, you understand them, that's why you can go so inside, you don't hate them, you want to understand why, that's the reason you are here.

I think OP brings a great point even if he is a bit drunk. We all have a ton of potentiel and even if the world we live in has become cold, bitter and hard with little hope, then its just up to us to change that. No one else cares anons, we are the last bastion of humanity that cares about games getting better and more original and that isn't going to change on its own.

I've seen countless posts about why the chans went to shit or why the mods went to shit or the world. But I think we forgot what made the chans fun in the first place: the freedom, the OC, the anons and the pure originality of it all. Think back to 4chan Holla Forums where everything was permited, was every thread shit? Did every thread have the same shitty jokes or same bants or memes? No. In all the freedom, anons started to regulate themselves. Not in specific ideological stand points or some unrelated reason to the post, but soely in the effort put into it. Shitposts are shitposts because they are low effort and since the very fucking begining every user has wanted something more.

This is why the chans were so fun and could be more fun, if everyone were to actually put the time and effort in to play, talk, make or save videogames. Remember when posters like or or would be called out as low quality larpers or shitty blog posts? Remember when anons would actually bait people? Remember when OC was actually made and memes would be created in most threads at least by one user? It wasn't moot, wasn't the mods, wasn't the world, wasn't time that stopped that.

It was you.

it was your parents decision and they did that because they thought it was to protect you…So, will you do that to your son? If it says that will help your son of disease, will you do it? It doesn't matter the saying it matter what you feel about him, does this mean anything to you now, or to your son, shedding some skin?! No, perhaps it's healthy and prevents disease? WILL YOU DO IT TO YOUR SON, the person you love the most on this earth?!
That's your answer.

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Sure you can, just not quickly. Think of all the regulare threads there are on Holla Forums, now think of what would happen if we had a wiki just to criticise and rant on about games. Then that wiki could also be used to provide examples of why certain games were good or bad and be used as examples of good or bad factors in certain genres of games. The fear level design in FPS, the Hotline miami sound track in top down shooters, the connected characters and storylines of Vampire masquerade, etc. There you have a wiki that would give great critique to invidivual games, genres, factors and devs that could be used by everyone from that one autistic 42 year old that hated mario odyssey, to a random /adgq/ user who wants to make a mod or spin off to the next cuphead creator.

I remember when almost everybody posting on Holla Forums had Photoshop running in the background. And then 4chan became popular and everything went to shit. I wonder if would be possible to have a public and anonymous community like this ever again, without it being overrun by phoneposters and leeches as soon as it starts producing entertaining content.

Yes, that too express my feelings, thank you.

thanks for describing me in a way to make me appear even better, buddy

You can't stop the people with shit opinions, and newfags and mindless shitposters who can't lurk and just repeat ad nauseum "why don't you like Skyrim, WoW, DmC" etc. They would just try to change everything in the wiki because it was "pretty good" or "not that bad"

By the way, are the mods asleep or something? Why is this thread still up?

She was so fucking cute in that show. I constantly wanted to head pat her.

That, and people with shit taste will straight up lie to try and not be proven wrong.

She was cute. But I used that image because spring of 2007 was when I finally let go off 4chan.

Long story short, the fucking kikes ruined everything. Now go away.

That is why there is modderation and more importantly more than one wiki format. You could make a wiki with conflicting opinions and beliefs about certain articles by just making duplicates like FPS design A + FPS design B or just make the mod choose his favorite and keep an archive for all the other edits that aren't copies of others, have shit grammar/low effort/joke.

Sure it wouldn't be pretty and the mod would probably get a lot of flak even if it ever got popular but it would still be a good way of spreading and keeping alive certain opinions and viewpoints. Think of how many redditors or half-chan anons think DOOM 2016 was the shit or that Titan Fall 2 was the pinnacle of gaming? Think of how many of them have never heard of half the games that oldfags still play or think the definition of mods is a skyrim playermodel. There is a lot of potentiel in people who think that skyrim is the pinnacle of gaming or don't even know what RTS means and no one else is going to show them that other way unless they purposefully lurk here for at least 2 years. This board alone can't change the tide or save video games but it can help talented people make better games and that would be that wiki would be about: helping game devs or modders make good games.

1) push the like that it is sooo helpfull and that it has no risks
2) present "facts" to parents
3) collect foreskins

4) Put foreskins in skin care products and sell them to parents

Actually it would work best if the mod just deleted ditto's and grammar/low effort/joke edits and archived genuine ones or try and keep up a very complex multiple article wiki with conflicting opinions and points. The former would work best if it was opinions that was largely accepted on here or very thought out ones that would be kept up on the main page with others being put into archive.

4) Om Nom Nom Nom Nom!

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Judging by Holla Forums, I doubt any quality will last
and on that so many shit people will be butthurt their game isn't considered the 2nd coming they will decide to splinter off and make their own wiki.
I'm not sure if modders and game devs. will listen to armchair devs or just make the game they wanted to, shit or not.


I can agree with that. I have a couple threads saved that were really interesting topics that I think deserve more than just sitting there on my server forever.
There is the Issue of a person changing arguments before it being stored and also, once again, people with shit opinions or shitters who just want to fill everything with shit and want the most stupid of threads saved.

And then you'd end up with a wiki that only reflects the opinions of its moderators. I don't think it's possible to have a truly free exchange of ideas in a forum that is open to normal people and idiots. And I am not sure if it is possible to have a truly anonymous public forum and still exclude those sorts of people.
The internet was what it was because technical and social hurdles kept normal people out. I am not sure what would need to happen for "us" to get a place like that ever again.

This user here gets it. After the original people lose the ability due to other commitments, new people that don't understand are going to erode any efforts you've done.

Is it saved on archive.is or did you use a program? I wouldn't mind having a lot before the thread gets deleted.

But on the wiki, the biggest problem will be what you described with the 2nd coming fags that would almost certainly shit up the wiki if their article is archived or isn't article A but C and I think it would be better if they did splinter off.


Yes it wouldn't be completly free but the whole reason to make such a wiki would be to catalogue different opinions and analysis on games to help game devs. I don't think we will ever have a completly free chan again unless smugchan gets finished once Holla Forums gets off its ass, but the purpose of this is to help people outside this site by showing them things they would never know otherwise.

Looking at cuphead and the indie game scene I really think there is potentiel and I might try my hand at such a wiki even if it doesn't end well. I know a veteran from such wiki's that could help and I have a lot of time on my hands. Might not end well and might just end up improving /agdq/'s wiki but still think getting the voices of the people here out there might really help video games.

Use something that has too many technological hurdles and too much social stigma attached to it for normalfags to touch it.

A reputation as a child porn site who steals credit card information, illegally downloads all their media including the aforementioned child porn, and host to a political opinion that'd get you banned everywhere else in seconds? I'm not quite sure if we're still talking about a recommendation wiki or something more encompassing.

If the tl;dr is "why don't you just, like, make game", it's because i'd rather learn shit that will get me a bunch of money then just pay someone who learned compsci to make games for me.

are also smart enough not to wast their time writing a critique on a national socialist tiwanies loli board.

don't wast there talent on Jewtube.

realize that the majority of people don't know how to structure a sound argument and that pathos is the most effective rhetoric when dealing with the plebeians so they don't wast their mental energy writing logical dissertations on ethics in video games.

know that opinions ok and fun things are fun. While its a meme to joke about "objectively correct opinions" the is is-ought gap in terms of what is subjectively enjoyable vs what is objectively manifest in the games are wholly different. When people talk about wanting more "objective" game reviews they are asking the reviewer to point out the actual mechanics and not try and couch those things in subjective "good or bad" evaluations allowing the audience to make their own judgments.

I used right click, save as. not sure how to put it on archive now since the threads are dead


screencaps and save as text. If your lucky enough you will get a shitter before a thread takes off

The indie game scene died with Minecraft and the App Store.


That would keep out everybody who is not explicitly searching for hidden corners, and is the reason "darknet" forums don't take off. Part of what made the internet discussion what it was, was that all sorts of nerds had other reasons to use the network and then stayed for the conversation.


That would just attract law enforcement, political shills and moral crusaders. Another part of what made the internet awesome was that those people did not knew it existed.

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The problem with trying to build a sort of Holla Forums Review Site is that the content would already have been processed by the anons, through the methods of screencaps and simple group consensus, rendering such a site redundant, as seen with GYP.
This is unfortunate because the internet needs such a publication so badly, but without the full backing of the core audience, it will fall flat before it gains enough power to challenge the establishment.

Did you voice-to-text dictate this or are you very drunk?

you will only see that kind of effortpost in broad overarching recurrent themes. Never wasted on a particular product. Maybe if its a post about crimes committed by an evil developer for example. Or Grand Tatics in regards to politics and meta board culture but people don't screen cap someones review of a single video game unless that review transcends that single product and it speaks to a wider issue within the industry.

That is why those types of post exist, but everything short of that is "shit posting" because the effortpost is born from the gable that someone might screencap it. But then that also feeds into another brand of Egoism which user culture rejects on principle.


my chronic misspelling unfortunately unmasks my indistinctness as a regular poster

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You could say that about anything, anything is a waste of time depending on your subjective views, but even then I think its pretty acceptable for normlafags to use a wiki

The purpose of the wiki isn't to write a completely logical review on a video game or write a completely objective review on video games but rather to show a lot of different subjective views coupled with objective ones. Several objective values like originality, polished gameplay and a good combination of theme would be in there but would also have to a significant ammount of subjectivity in articles to make it stand out and provide relation and contrast to the viewers.

There have been Holla Forums wikis and and the like. Multiple attempts have been made. Holla Forums isn't as good as you think it is, if only because the quality is all over the spectrum of shit-to-amazing.

Nice videogame thread homolord, why don't you ask this in the 4am thread instead?

What?

yes but you are ignoring the ephemeral nature of image boards. If someone wants to invest themselves into writing these substantive reviews (subjective or otherwise) they do it elsewhere. Convincing other user's about something is easier to convey in a positivist or negative brand of memetic shit posting. The consensus is formed over time depending on if the "x is good" or "x is shit" meme was forced or rejected by the prevailing wisdom.

But all those screencaps and in general group consensus is not all easily accesible or understandable. I'm sure that there is a ton of reviews that were never saved or even written by anons due to there being no point or not being funny or fleshed out enough. But having a site where you could have all of it in one place and have anons help other with ideas they started but never finished could really help anybody interested in making games that doesn't want to look at what you can find from google/wikipedia/whatever or that doesn't know where to start their search. Hell, having a site that could have a sliver of the abstract, original and interesting viewpoints on games that you guys have could easily motivate others to want to make their own game/spin off/mod.

Do you have any sources or links?

This guy is on to something, I think. Instead of trying to figure out how to take professional shitposters and fit them into normalfag categories to try to change an industry, you should be thinking about letting the shitposting spill over into reality. Let the shitposting flow onto the streets in a wave of cultural terror and liberate the world from the normalfags. Then, after a short period of purgation, society can be normalized once and for all.

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Actually, one of those would have been the user before you that quoted him.

You are right, I made a mistake. I misunderstood how 8ch Holla Forums works and how it would react to such a wiki. Now that I think about it, it would ahve just crashed and burned within a week. For a wiki to survive in this kind of place it needs to either have something that no other wiki does to attract those who do this normally (which isn't what I want) or to make the wiki compatible with Holla Forums which would more or less by always active. Such a wiki would have to have at least 3 active threads realted to it at all time which would have to be like /agdg/ that could include their own games as well as just their own viewpoints of games and game devs (which is 80% of those threads anyways). Then the second could be a thread on a certain game or topic that would have an user try and upload a review or criticism onto the wiki from that thread. Then you would have to have a thread on the wiki itself for talk additions that would have anons mostly criticising articles or viewpoints and bans or deletions. This format itself could barely sustain a wiki and it would need full approval and support from mark as well so I can see how hard it would be. On another note it would also probably be normalfag-proof due to its relience on Holla Forums and would only serve as a review wiki and to help /agdg/ anons.


Thanks for the link man, been looking to emulate the original megami tensai and been reading the original novels. This will help a bunch in the future.

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