Mild Holla Forumsack here. I recently listened to the episode of Chapo trap house where they were basically making fun of us the whole thing.
The thing was a huge strawman basically, but even so they were right about some things. Maybe I am a complete fucking loser. Maybe I have never had a gf, never had a non-shit job, never really had friends, never fucked. And probably never will.
So what's the fucking solution then cunts? Do you even have one?
The solution is that all the non whites go home.
They hate us and rob us in the streets.
Non whites must leave.
What is Socialism?
I know, that's what I believe already
I'm saying these fuckers critique our worldview, yet offer no solution themselves
The solution is to not only gas rich jews, but also rich non-jews. Welcome to the party.
They're cucks living in a fantasy world
The solution is for you to understand that you're probably acting out of negative impulses that arise from self-hatred and self-loathing and that the sooner you get your shit together the sooner you'll grow out of EVROPA. So just focus on solving your own personal horseshit before you start going down the rabbit hole of politics, any politics, Left or Right, because right now your judgement is clouded.
Seriously they will never get it they will go to socialist meetings full of screeching Puerto Ricans and hostile negros talking about how white people are evil they will never get it.
You're not a good actor. You'll do fantastically as spasming, though, when you are hanging from the rope.
Better yourself together with your comrades, train and overthrow the bourgoiesie which makes you all miserable.
Most of use also dont have girlfriend, never had non-shit jobs, never fucked etc.
What I will not hear a word from you is "I probably never will". Not accepting the world as it is is the first step to changing it.
let natural selection do away with your kind like in the good old days
What?
It's very simple OP: we're going to build a dictatorship of the proletariat, and the bourgeoisie are going to pay for it
We'd love to help you get a good job, but you're on your own if you don't want to be lonely.
The solution to what?
I wish I could help you chief, I really do.
Cultural Marxism is the complete opposite of what Holla Forums would have you believe.
Yes, you and the rest of Holla Forums should give up and kys.
Also if you've never fucked just get drunk and fuck a black girl or a darker Dominican girl the educated types are very easy if you're white they like white guys.
Not being lonely is priority number one for me. So you admit you don't have a solution. Good to know
This too though. Cultural marxism and le frankfurth school is basically talking about how capitalism causes everything Holla Forums says is caused by cultural marxism.
Is that you nogf nazi?
But are you asking for a solution to what? Your own personal problems, a political solution for society, what?
That's nice, user. What are you doing to be less lonely?
Reminder that girls suck, and sexual desires can be subverted, traditional family is a spook anyway and your help to "restore white race" will never bring anything, hardcore desire to breed is animal-like and futile in modern capitalist society. Find friends, not hoes. Friends are easier to find, they will keep you less lonely.
And stop being woman focused, woman focused mind cannot see anything past the need of vagina.
This is where you've gone awry dude. You're looking for a political solution to your personal problems.
1. Stop using Holla Forums
2. Start lifting
3. ????
4. Read Marx class war now 1848
Here, in there you will find lots of nice people to make a friendship.
I have been exchanging long letters with a very nice german girl.
Freud would say you are perverted
Stirner would say you are spooked
Stalin would send you to gulag
Ah yes, forgot the most important socialist advice:
STOP MASTURBATING
Let the government be controlled by a normal thinking white person with more socially liberal and economically conservative ideas.
Read Starting Strength
Go to the gym
Eat a good diet
Stop being an autistic internet nazi, the darkies aren't out to get you
Stop failing your classes
I do quite ok socially and financially. I don't wish for much in life in order to be happy. I just want to live in a society where niggers and jews are banned.
A solution to the problems you claim can't be solved by the right wing
This is what spurns the right. Why should I care about leftism if it doesn't care about the problems I face? The right does care and it offers a solution. You just say suck it up like a boss taunting his worker for being poor
This might sound like me pandering and making shit up, but when I became a leftist I got a girlfriend. There are tons of women invested into leftist politics and almost none into the right-wing side and from everything I know being right-wing is extremely off putting to them.
Lol dude Holla Forums really is incredible
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Nigger, and what problems are those? Society's problems, economic problems, environmental problems, you not getting laid, what?
And more importantly, how does the far-right solves them?
Choose one
Like what? You just admitted you agree the right can't fix it.
Have you considered rooting for a sports team instead of treating politics like a football game?
the personal is political, cis scum.
I said you claim the right can't actually fix it
The far right solves them by going back to traditional pre sexual revolution society
Can someone else vouch for this?
this tbqh fam
The solution is to kill yourself dude
I don't want to kill anyone really. I just want to kick them out.
If you actually had any interactions with the working class, you'd know that the common man does see the world through a racial lense.
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Exactly how does the right claim it will solve your sexual frustration?
please don't
please don't
please don't
please don't
please don't
please don't
There is none
Marxists belive we will all be happy when we abolish capital, Nazis belive we will all be happy if we gas the jews. the truth is life itself is unbearable, and the extremely vulgar enjoyment capitalism promises is just a representation of our cry for help
take the nihil pill
there are plenty of happy people, faggot. stop projecting.
No you said you saw chapos trap house and they had some good points, after which you came to use and ask for solutions to the problems you agreed the right cant fix.
Why would that solve your problem. In those days you still had to go out and meet a girl.
yes sure, we call them sadists, become one and you will understand why is it soo enjoyable to see retards like OP suffer
Remind me how having a girlfriend you know is forced to be with you by the State and doesn't love you will cure loneliness? I mean you aren't getting any white girlfriends now, so why will this change under Not Socialism or whatever?
to a false problem
Have you considered that maybe capitalism is the source of your problems, OP?
Converting Holla Forumsyps is very valuable.
While I don't have any demographics for explicitly leftist spaces, at least judging from general party affiliation we can already tell that young women are far more likely to be left leaning than right.
We also know that the support for Bernie Sanders was at an all time high among those aged under 30.
Do you know how diffucult Kapital is?
I started a thread particularly about this. The answers I got are quite interesting:
8ch.net
Basically, it is no longer viable to have a 'traditional family structure', and with that opens a whole can of worms. This is not because of some evil cultural marxist plot, but merely because of capitalism's need for endless growth.
Become a comrade, heaps of us are girls
Source:girl
This "cultural Marxism" bogeyman is a magnnificent example of the rightwing's MO. Identify a contradiction within capitalism, and blame it on a convenient target. In this case, the very people warning us it's a contradiction within capitalism. It's almost like a problem that solves itself, it's quite elegant in its complete lack of scruples.
Help our cause and live to do good, your life should not revolve around wanting a sexual or romantic partner. Get out into the world and better yourself through speaking up for the poor and disenfranchised rather than hating those who look different. Live your life charitably and through your good deeds you may meet someone who respects you enough to love you back
THE PERSONAL IS NOT POLITICAL.
Maybe you're a loser, or a virgin, or lonely, or whatever, but I don't understand what you think any ideology could possibly do for you, left or right. This is a just a shit and inevitable part of life for some people and it always will be. If you're one of those people, like I am, the best we can do is to not begin to see ourselves as an identity and get caught up in IDPOL. NEET, virgin, loser, whatever: these are not status symbols.
When you're thinking about politics, try analysing an issue from an objective standpoint. Try thinking about it without regard for who you are personally, and that will bring you a greater understanding of the issues.
You don't know what this means.
Bullshit you are.
do also happen to have a third leg?
How so?
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Do you think that leftist women don't exist?
This. Political life should be influencing your personal life, but not the other way around.
Communism.
Seriously nigga, watch this fucking playlist: youtube.com
Come back to us when you're through and tell us your thoughts.
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Your idealized past never existed, snap your fucking self out of it. Life and society have always been "degenerate," open a history book and you'll see that. The noble peasant fighting for his wife and family is romanticized bullshit. Most people lived like animals or got sent off to fight some king's spooky geopolitical land war and died like them too. History is one of the few genies in this world that you can't put back in the bottle.
Don't you have a college campus to set on fire somewhere?
This. Also control the means of production.
It's like you enjoy being counter-productive.
I dont respond to fake anarchists cucks who are living out a wet dream because they think they are fighting the man by trying to eliminate police and thinking rioting solves anything.
There is no culture war, just a disgruntled white middle class being called racist at every turn and a bunch of loud severely left and right leaning retards that are attributed to both the right and the left.
It's almost as if there won't be walls enough for all the liberals we'll have to execute after the revolution. Oh are they ever going to be arsed when they can shitpost all they want in gulag and nobody cares.
why?
You ever feel like shit user?
Working in a dead end job?
Seeing so many people obsessing over materialist crap and being shallow day in and day out?
You pissed off at conservatives and their patronizing ideals about how you should act?
You pissed off at liberals and their condescending and arrogant bullshit?
All singing the same tune of just learn and learn then work work work and die? Well good for you. That's the life you live in under capitalism. That is the life that millions and millions of people suffer under. Not just a nation or race, but around the world. The solution is to have people have our livlihoods be dependent on themselves. Not some rich banker or ceo from an ivory tower. Check this link if you want to find out more. It's a single page.
Oy m8. Post in the lit thread. Much more likely to get a reply.
Are you asking how to stop getting dunked on?
Keep pushing ro Nazi masturbation fantasy. Wait for nuclear holocause. Embrace the alien utopia.
But seriously, the left offers you no personal salvation except people might perhaps like you more if you don't act like dick to them because you're not given to you what you believe that people before you was given. It is true that newer generations are worse of that their parents generation which is something that can be related to how much more rich and powerful the richest has become over time.
Having to slave away all day for little to no gain when you could be doing more productive things like reading, training a skill or improving your body is way to control you as if you don't agree there are plenty of unemplyed people to take your place and you will be left without away to support yourself and going self reliant is harder than ever as a few capitalists own most of the land and selling it off would only decrease their iron grip over our society. A socialist mode of production where the workers own their workplace would be a direct way to counter this as one example of a "solution" to some alienation felt in todays world. The right-wing want nothing but to say that is okay because every thing bad is just a few bad capitalists and then procede to do nothing about even these bad cases since they're always completely oligarchical entities run by the rich.
because when u dead, that's it, no more anime for u
Carol Hanisch has a lot to answer for
I don't care about fun. In traditional societies you were garunteed a mate. Nowadays millions live and die alone. There's a problem here and you refuse to address it
This is cool and all but what if economics is not the only thing I care about?
patently false. Surplus male population is nothing new.
To the extent that it is now? Bullshit. A society like that couldn't function
Nigga, older societies were often in a 24/7/365 state of war. We have plenty of poor saps living alone now, but we used to have a lot more dying alone.
More to the point, twice as many women as men have passed on their genes.
Economics, that is: the economic base of our society, dictates everything, from your basic ability to obtain and consume basic goods, to purchasing a dragon dildo, to shaping the social texture of our society and what people's desires and desires aren't. These dildos didn't come from nothing, your bread didn't come from nothing, and aside from basic human instincts and biological workings, nothing made us born with the ability to bake bread, much less organize an entire mode of production complete with productive relations to get us that bread in a particular way.
When you rail against muh fun, chances are you're railing against something the market at some point demanded or enabled, and to which labor had no choice but to comply to, because labor today takes the form of a specific class that can but either sign a contract to a proprietor to get its bread (and dragon dildos), or starve.
Do you have any proof it was different back then? Watch some nature documentaries and see how often males don't reproduce, you'd be surprised. The most viable males usually impregnate the majority of females. This makes sense especially in humans considering females need to choose carefully for their nine month long pregnancies while males are good to go all the time.
The means of production need to be socially owned. Fight for state issued AI robo-waifus! By the time they're developed under capitalism automation will mean you won't have any money to buy them with.
If you read the actual study where this comes from they mention that this effect was only present post agriculture, so after accumulation of resources became possible.
Hunter gatherer societies couldn't be anything other than egalitarian because of resources were distributed unequally the group couldn't function. So what makes you think it could function if 50% of the male's were denied mates
Human society is different from animals. All animals have different sexual practices. See: chimps vs bonobos
And one more thing, I thought leftists were against human nature, or even deny its existence. Yet I'm supposed to accept the natural way of things when it comes to this issue? It's a contradiction
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Oh and here's the source
psmag.com
It says in the FIRST FUCKING PARAGRAPH.
The world isn't meant for us OP, no matter who or what's in charge.
I'm working on creating a left wing project just for people like you.
A couple points:
Online forums maintain a form of communication that is inherently alienating and isolating. The first step to ending your loneliness is finding a few friends either irl or with one on one communication, preferably non-political in nature.
Capitalism, through the shit jobs, unemployment, and social stigmas regarding both, will always generate loneliness. Fighting capitalism and fighting for the means of production and automation under social control will help counter this.
And finally, make your loneliness political. No one deserves to be lonely, and you should pressure the state to issue companionship AI robots to anyone who so desires.
Leftists treat human "nature," such as it is, as a series of observations always and forever confounded by society. Rightists treat human nature as an ideal, except when they decide otherwise.
>>>/hwndu/
Where did you hear this? More importantly what do you think "human nature" is exactly?
Nigga fuck that shit. You can't eliminate inequality among the human species and then pretend other species are inferior "because reasons". Creating a species hierarchy and placing humans at the top is no different than porky creating a class hierarchy and placing porkies at the top.
smh
I have some bad news for you, chum. It used to be a lot worse. Historically, 60% to 85% of males never reproduced. Males are a recapitulation of sperm.
The good news is we are the free sex. We can experiment and aren't under a compulsion to fill our biological necessity like women who are all breeders whether they admit it or not.
egoism is dog-shit and self-defeating
not for me :^)
Pic very much related.
They're only inferior in the literal, material sense: they're biologically subject to human creativity, not some inherent human superiority a priori.
Where the fuck is this created hierarchy you speak of? We're human: we step on not just animals with our creativity, but the natural laws that long kept us bound to this rock. We're so
that we manage to rape ourselves by creating the tools with which we enslave ourselves.
Our historical-temporal creations of species hierarchies have been retarded, but today we realize that "we're" animals too, literally. This prior ignorance, our position at the top of the food chain, et cetera, does not innately make us incapable of providing an authentic, autonomous place for animals to live, but it's a dog eat dog world when you have a species capable of massive creativity with minor enslavement to instinct versus a whole realm of species enslaved to instinct. I won't get cucked by a tarantula just because you feel bad for being smarter than it.
The truth comes before anything else, and that is the truth about women. If they were capable of anything else, they'd have done it by now. Men excel under much harsher conditions.
I had this long answer typed out, but honestly, why bother? Time to go to sleep so I can mercifully stave alienation off for eight blessed hours.
Your loneliness is your own problem, noone elses. It cannot be solved by externalising the problem into some fantasy politics.
Basically this.
Also actually sit down and FUCKING THINK about what was said in the chapo episode - particularly about what you want and exactly how you think the right will give you that. Realise that the values the right stands for are contradictory. Chapo put it nicely - you want to go back to before the sexual revolution, but still have its effects in place for men.
See
But I don't. I'm just lonely
What is this hypocrisy?
We must either accept that the sexual is the political, or we must not. We being the left.
Forget the politics of loneliness at your own peril!
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largely a symptom, even so, this doesn't mean nationalism or fascism is the solution. i don't think multiculturalism is a solution either, but that's not irreconcilable with internationalism
if you DO believe in human nature and "might is right" this only means that it's basic natural selection. therefore, to someone on the right it's actually not a problem, but the solution itself
human nature isn't real though
Thanks for the response, gave me some new insight that I'll need time to think over.
Well, let's look at what you've posted so far (I'll have to take some guesses on who is you based on response-type and posts responded to).
What you stand behind becomes clear: you fetishize a mythical version of a pre-sexual revolution society that lacks any of the actual nuance that existed at those times, even if it wasn't brought into the public scene that often. You bank your ideological tendencies on whoever can promise you what essentially amounts to the revocation of any political/economic agency women hold independently and grants state-distributed gfs. On top of that, you naively believe that the people who would be at the helm of an authoritarian right-wing government are going to give two shits about that sort of problem, especially for someone who is entirely lacking the normal social skills to even come close to attaining companionship naturally.
Loneliness is a perfectly normal human emotion to face, but what we see here is a clear sign of that loneliness creating a positive feedback loop whereas your isolation breeds resentment with your peers, which in turn causes greater isolation. There are things to be done about this, but what you have described is not actually treating the underlying causes of alienation: it merely tries to force people to be shackled to you in the vague hope that the problem will simply disappear (rather than the far more likely scenario where one or both parties now stuck together get to stew in perpetual resentment of one another and everyone surrounding their circumstances).
That's why the sexbot waifuists are progressive. We need sexual liberation for men, too. Feminists need to get out of the way.
How come Holla Forums thinks a return to "traditional societies" (whatever that means) is going to solve all their problems but then turns around and calls us the idealists?
don't they know that the society of present day is a result of all previous occurring society. a return to what's previously been had will inevitably lead us right back here!