FINAL FANTASY XV WINDOWS EDITION

we are reaching levels of un-optimized that shouldn't even be possible

geforce.com/whats-new/articles/final-fantasy-xv-windows-edition-benchmark-release-date

It's not worth your time to begin with, so why be upset over the PC version's requirements?

I don't think every other FF combined even reaches 155 gigs. This is absurd.

that is one sweet get user.
As for why I'm upset it's because this is an indication of the general trend of the industry. Western games suck ass but nip games were still ok, now they are going the way of Ubisoft

Those numbers belong in a FF thread.

You can't even say "un-optimized" as that term implies there was an attempt at optimizing it to begin with.


Well, it is squeenix we're talking about here, japanese AAA isn't really that much different from western AAA games.

Square probably jumped on the microtransaction train earlier than most others. Remember All the Bravest? Remember how every game journo was shitting on that game uncontrollably for its microtransactions while completely ignoring anything similarly done by a western publisher?

Well said, quadsman.

Square Anus is a western nip company. They were bound to end up like every other AAA piece of shit.
Come on, man.

1 5 5 T H I C C A B Y T E S

I want the niggers to leave.

Mods will fix. I can't wait for all the shitty SFM Cindy porn.

No twitter apes allowed.

I have had that pic for close to 8 years now, I just never bothered removing the stamp but since you're triggered here you go


still hurts though… I can still remember the squaresoft days when they made good games

I thought FF15 was alright. Better than 13. And 8.

That's not saying much.

Is this how physical media will make its triumphant return? Because it's taking forever to download digital games?
Or is this why ISPs in America have been raising their speeds?

All of the games on my computer combined isn't 155gb

i don't it's upsetting we are talking about here, it's more like incredulity that some dev/publisher could release a game giving as little fucks as square is with FF15

No, because there's nothing stopping them from just putting 1% of the game on the disc and forcing you to download the rest day one.

For 4K at max graphic settings. Every modern game requires that if your want minimum 60 FPS at all times. 4K is a meme at the moment unless you want to be the best GPU goy. 2K 144hz is the max you should get for PC at the moment.

The 155GB of space is inexcusable though.

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This shit is exactly why I want games to go back to PS2 graphics.

here comes Holla Forums with their 2008 potatos, powered by q6600s and 8800gt's

if you don't have at least 2tb+ssd storage minimum, 8gb ram minimum, a 780 minimum, and a ryzen 5 minimum, you have a toaster and have no right to bitch about requirements in any game.

They'd more than make up for that with the audio.

>>>/reddit/

Even with that rig, a single game taking up more than 10% of your space is unacceptable.

Fucking NO. Most games are horribly optimized and don't deserve the hardware they need to get mediocre graphics out of them.

The only game that is a legitimate hardware widowmaker and actually deserves to be one, is Witcher 3, because of it's intense I/O usage thanks to it's high detail draw distance. Almost every other game that brags about it's graphics are games that stuffed in every possible visual effect they could without a single consideration for optimization.

1TB hdds have been affordable for 8 years. no excuses.

4K is attainable if you strategically lower certain settings, especially cancerous shit like SSAO that gets heavier as resolution increases.

fine, I'll bite
I have a 1700X, 980 ti and 16gb of ram with several ssd's and I still think this is gay


nigger, have you tried loading something over 80gb on an hdd? I am not sitting around for 10 minutes every-time a load screen comes up

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There's no fucking way the Piss 4 iso is that goddamn big after gutting HALF THE FUCKING GAME.

thats not how it works, faggot

my guess is that all the PC version included all the cutscenes in all the available languages and all the audio is uncompressed

Even with physical discs, these days it's becoming rarer and rarer for a game to actually play directly off them without some sort of forced copying and installation of game files before you can. Been like that since part of seventh gen, at least for consoles. And that's not getting into day one patches, fix/update patches, etc. Point being that with the push for digital storage, games get a) shipped out in an improper state, and b) game sizes can become bloated even worse since you can just compress files into an improperly usable format and force an install. Back on the PS3, I imported Okami HD because fuck "digital only in the west" releases, and that not only had a forced full game install, but the way the game data is stored it was basically just the PSN version (with it's own tab the way a digitally downloaded game gets in the XMB, as opposed to just sending the data to the "Game Data" folder), but with the issue that it makes damn sure you've got the disc in it before booting up.


Seen some speculation that such bloated filesizes are an intentional means to "counteract" pirates, but at the same time it could easily just be that when maximum sizes of digital storage can be so much larger than what has to fit on a disc in a directly playable form, devs/porters/whoever stop giving a shit.


Given how "PS2 Graphics" became a recurring media insult back in seventh gen (despite the fact that some PS2 games, especially later ones, could look pretty good for what they were). Unless there's some sort of (most likely) shitty renaissance for sixth gen level graphical output amongst indies, I think at best it would be relegated to handhelds. Except that Sony seems content to write off the handheld market as a failure and Nintendo is doing their hybrid handheld/console shit with the Switch. Maybe phoneshit will get there someday (I know Square-Enix already tried to port Dragon Quest VIII to phones), but fuck that shit.


Reminds me that, digging around in the PSN, some JP audio downloads were bigger than entire multidisc PS1 games, even some of the lower sized PS2 games, on their own. Like 2.7gb having to be relegated just to extra voicework at modern audio standards. Not even necessarily music (which can have it's own DLC patches), but just the voices.

My god you are a faggot. So, you want people to go out right now and buy SSDs and DDR4 at the inflated prices due to artificial scarcity by the manufacturers, and then turn around and buy GPU at well over twice MSRP thanks to mining fuckers. And this is a 'good investment'.

You aren't wealthy, because wealthy people actually have some god damn sense when it comes to spending their hard earned money. Overpaying for shit to enrich people fucking you over is top pleb behavior. Let me guess, Daddy bought you that rig so you'd shut the fuck up? Or you burned the two thousands on a rig that should cost half that much instead of investing that money in something intelligent and waiting for the market to stop trying to fuck you?

You can't even access any of that shit if you're a good goy and buy this heaping cancer instead of pirating a repack with the language options available.

Also, isn't installing the game mandatory on PS4? That would imply that a good amount of the content on disk is compressed.

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ITT: OP and Faggots that don't fucking know these are the requirements for 4K on most games, also with NiOH which wasn't even half as long as this game you got about 80gb required hardrive space.
Quit being such faggots, are you going to complain in 5 years from now about how the latest game requires 1tb of space and not 100gb like the old times.?
Pc games where always pushing the limits, i think most of the people complaining about requirements do play on PC because they are cheap poorfags and not because of it's actual hardware advantages

The game will probably be launching around the time NVidia releases their Volta lineup. FFXV will probably come as a bundle game for the 1160/1170/1180, or whatever their naming scheme will be.

Fuck. You. I just played Quantum Break and that motherfucker was 80gb. 80 fucking gb for a 7 hour game, that STREAMED it's live action cutscenes over the web, was about 5 hours long with the live action bullshit pulled out and looked like a blurry, distorted hot mess. That isn't pushing the limits, that being fucking incompetent.

This game says, even for non-4k versions that it will take 'Over 100gb'. Fuck you and stop defending this corporate bullshit. Stop sucking their dick for half a second, god dammit.

Faggot fantasy series became a disgrace such a long time ago that bullshit like this was the expectation instead of the drawback

ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FIVE GIGABOOS
Also Dobungo and therefore shit performance and SSD rape are guaranteed.
As if the game being shit was not reason enough to skip it.

100 GB plus all the DLC, similar to Nioh but with an additional 20GB.
155 is for uncrompressed 4K textures
For 4K

I still don't understand the storage autists on this board I can get 1TB of HDD space for 50 eurobucks and bigger higher quality assets need bigger storage space.
Even consoles have them now.

I'll be waiting for the mods since Squeenix will add it out of the box.

When did this place get so positively cancerous? I expect shilling overdrive when they confirm Denuvo for FF15. No wonder the industry is absolute shit, even people in 'le sekret club' are defending corporate fuckery.

Either a shit eater or a shill, enjoy your backstreet boys softcore porn faggot.

J"RPG"S where never worth anyone's time to begin with.

I'm not buying anything with Denuvo nor do I plan to, especially not a boyband simulator, I'm merely stating facts you autistic niggers.

You can pay for vidya, but you can't buy class.

wew lad

>here comes Holla Forums with their 2018 potatos

Thankfully the game is a shit bara simulator and I can safely ignore it. I just want Cindy SFM porn.

fucking wew
also is it just me or is the aesthetic of this game is shittier than the other ones? this game just looks like GTA with a little bit of medieval and steampunk on it it looks disgusting

"Stating facts" and saying that massively bloated file sizes is ok because you can be a good goy and just buy more storage. Does it not occur to you and your lacking mind that these games are far, far larger than they should be, as one can easily confirm by simply comparing it to other games? File size doesn't correlate with quality, and these shit ports are just large for the hell of it. You could likely make them a third of the size with no noticeable downgrade whatsoever.

Indeed it does. I remember watching the shitty prequel movie and you can see how the sleek, modern look of the vehicles clashes horribly with the overdesigned costumes, architecture, monsters and made up vehicles. Absolutely no cohesive art direction in place, and watching people smash each other with swords and fireballs when they already invented advanced electronics, combustion engines and firearms is beyond cringe.

It does look pretty inconsistent, yeah, but I'd say 13 was worse. Pretty much nothing in that game followed any sort of even implied logical pattern. It was like playing a bunch of concept art stringed together with battles that play like some kind of demo video for an E3 clip reel.

Demake age when?

Do it then, give me modern games to compare it to with similar assets.
nigger the base game on PS4 with all the DLC is around the same size.

I'm planning to buy a new computer with a ryzen 1300x, a 1060ti and 8gb of ram but it seems that would barely be enough in gpu and ram department, lol. It's quite ridiculous.

SE seems to be run by complete idiots. How the fuck do you botch a port so badly you end up with these requirements? Not even KOEI fucks up this bad.

The fine print is the best part.
Fucking hell that's just terrible. Why would you cut off such a major part of the gaming population? I should just buy a ps4.

Why do you want to play this terrible game? The gameplay is awful and the story is even dumber than XIII, something I didn't think it was actually possible.

(lit af)
ooga booga where da dubz at??

That's maxed out you dumb nigger
The improved LOD is enough to make the console version look like shit.

It felt like that because that's exactly what the game is. The various departments of the project seriously spent years churning out endless amounts of whatever the fuck they wanted. Monsters, characters, artwork, locations, you name it. The resulting game is a hodge-podge of ideas from several sources that had no idea what any of the others were going for.
They had so much left over they were able to shit out 2 sequels in record time by re-purposing stuff that had otherwise been created for nothing.

This game has gone through a ton of revisions and we managed to get the worst version as the final product. I'm willing to bet that the repacks of these will drop the size of this filesize by at least 50%.

Yet the game still has less variety than any other in the series bar the NES ones. Seriously, you start fighting pallet swaps as soon as the second, or maybe third fuck if I can honestly tell, area.

High is not maxed out. There's very high and ultra, at least in normal games.

There is no 1060 Ti. 8 GB or RAM is a minimum and will not give you a good experience. Expect to have to play games /or/ use a web browser. Some games won't even work with 8 GB.

Highly dependent on the game and option.
"Detail" could mean anything

Still trying to push this non argument I see

Thanks, Todd.

Jesus fuck

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How are those generic Ultima and Wizardry clones treating you?

I wish more games were just Ultima or Wizardry clones honestly.

and yeah, the game is worse than XIII which is really fucking pathetic

once all the updates come out it would be decent, a bit like no mans sky, if it keeps getting more updates like it was promised

As long as the jews keep running the tech industry this shit will never stop.

Prompto gangbang porn when?

What does an optimized game look like?

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just get bayonetta

what ps4 bugs?

I wonder how much space the RePacks will save

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I feel like DMC4 is a little bit better. Bayonetta doesn't really warrant an extra playthrough unless you want to show off your skills or go for platinum everything. Plus you can cheese nearly every encounter with the PKP combo and Witch Time. DMC4 gives you a deep inner desire to master Dante and makes you want to play through it over and over again. And SE has even more stuff to play with.

They're both really good though, but I think if I sat down with a choice of both right now I'd play DMC4

fucking disgusting meme
are the audio files also uncompressed as well

1 is a minor inconvenience that is only a problem if you have a shit rig or play badly optimized games. Or you're a streamer but if you're a streamer you don't have a shit rig.

2 and 3 are fucking advantages because they mean that if any of those things don't work, you can find a version that does work or make your own. Or, you know, just play a different game because the PC gaming library is absolutely massive and not locked off by a higher corporate power. Also if any of those things go wrong on the hardware side, you can fix them yourself or have a normal repair guy fix them instead of having to be reliant on your console's distributor to fix your shit. Nothing on the level of the RROD has ever happened or could ever happen in a PC market because people would actually be able to fix their shit, and if they bought cheap garbage parts that overheat and melt, that's their own damn fault.

now thats an impressive bait

Wait for when you can pirate it.
Never pay for entertainment.
Make sure to subvert the marketing and expose everywhere the shitty product that it is, so most of normalfags won't give money for it.

There better be a storymode with the girls.

I don't see the issue, it's a day1 pirate for me.

Why are you posting extremely misleading bullshit?

There is no denying #1. Windows runs on pajeet tier code since NT 3.1 and has been getting worse ever since. The only reason i have Windows installed is muh video games and h-games.

save your bandwith, its not worth it

Dumb fuckers.

Disingenous OP
The rest is true though, but fuck Squeenix to begin with

Slick Quads, but this is worth caring about because the trend will eventually affect games we do care about

Pathetic

Nobody but autists care about the innards, you are supposed to deliver and Windows does whats advertised.
Compared to anything Unix-based file system hierarchy is acceptable. Dont forget Linux make EVERY application do its own configs and install, directories, its always worse.
svchost.exe is more about security and stability these days. (services are isolated)
There is literal Safe mode in Windows. Also regular User account is pretty safe. Admin account isnt recommended.
Nobody cares about clean state.
UAC isnt even that important with things like DEP.
MSI isnt forced, theres plenty of other installation software unlike Unix-based stuff that forces you to use specific ones.
Did you fucking forget that Windows Update exists?
Debugging is easier than ever with Troubleshoots for everything, why would you expect normies to debug windows components. Usually its bad config and driver issues, which are solved easily.
Windows has literal boot fixing implemented during early stages. Just go to one again troubleshoot Windows early by pressing F5, F8 whatever.
UEFI requirements are largely entirely Win10 thing.
Windows Updates are very good compact packages that can be rolled back by press of button in Safe Mode.
You can clean updates with cleanmgr tool(Disk Cleanup).
WinSxS maintains itself, and clean itself. Unlike in Vista its now actually working very well in the background in win7/8/10.
Error codes can be looked up and theres even specific guides if its specific issue. General Errors related to something else are just as bad in Unix-based OSs.
Windows build-in Anti-Virus is so light and effective that you dont notice or (maybe even know), that its enabled by default on every install. It makes commercial ones irrelevant.
NTFS will be replaced by ReFS in the future.
You can just disable Windows Update. Download invididual updates from Microsft Catalog. Unplug net, Enable Updates, Install them. Restart. Disable Updates. Plug the net back in.

ps. I recommend Windows 10 LTSB. Get a cheap license. Its very stable.

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Source for pic?

1060 for 1080p is actually not bad. I thought 1080ti was for the 1080 resolution.
OP was a fag as usual.

And you can bet the minimum specs are a lie, too. They do it all the time.

Thread should've ended here.