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Found a neat thing in undertale where if you fall through enough times it just wipes the slate and you can't fall anymore. Maybe it's because I started making a line at the top.

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I would think the game with its 4th wall breaks would make a joke out of it instead of pulling out the quick difficulty adjustment like that.

Dubs

I remember when Holla Forums was playing the demo of this game. The reception to it then compared to the release of the final product seemed miles apart. Was the demo really that different?

I thought I've seen this combination of threads before. I hope I didn't just deja vu because I don't want to receive shitposting in my sleep

the demo showed promise but the amount of work put into the demo made it hard to believe that work would be spread across the entire game. The game took long enough to think that it actually could have done this, but it didn't bother.

the fuck off tumblrtale shit started a few weeks after the game came out

also tfw no Monster Kid bf

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People hate it because it's a one trick pony that keeps going as far as the plot goes. The gameplay is actually really fun, but you have to play through in a really boring way to get the hardest fights. The game is really great, but on top of not being too spectacular, being kinda short, and actively blocking the player from the harder modes with walls of tedium, the content attracted furries, which is unacceptable.

Monster Kid's gender is never established??

What do you mean specifically?

Preety much this.

I see. I didn't bother with the game, but did people expect the game not to be as good as the demo, or did they go in with starry eyes? From what I saw from some user posts, the demo seemed to present itself quite differently from the game.

Not even talking about the tumblrtale shit. People seemed disappointed with the direction the game took.

Undertale is literally a masterpiece, and to be fair, you need a really high IQ to enjoy it.

That's right, and I'm not trying to troll you, if Undertale was just a shitty game, you'd have a few le funny le youtube commenter meme le videos making fun of it, and that'd be it. I'm not saying you have to like it, just like you don't have to personally like the Mona Lisa, but not acknowledging how significant and meaningful it is would just be ignorant.

Undertale got a whole cult of hate built around it, and we all know that the more hate something gets, the more powerful it is, shitty games don't deserve hate, there is nothing in them that would offend someone beyond a few snarky comments.

Undertale doesn't NEED fancy graphics or gameplay to get its message across, in fact the simplicity of the game helps make the message more clear, just like enlightenment poets could move their audience deeply with only a few sentences, just like how the great artists of history could stir up great feelings with only a few strokes on the canvas, just like how a song with no lyrics can generate powerful emotions within a person. Games as an artform isn't about how detailed you can make the graphics or how immersive you can make the gameplay, that would be like saying painting is all about how bright you can make the paint or how accurate you can draw the shapes; totally missing the finer points that make the artform great.

if you don't understand this you probably have a low IQ, and more importantly, a poor attention span, I'm not trying to insult you, I'm just telling it to you how it is. So go play your Call of Duty CCCVXXI: electric zombie nazi ghost ninjas or whatever with the fancy 8k graphics, just remember that games with REAL SUBSTANCE will always be there waiting for you to play them, when you're ready.

I did it again, but if you make a line from one corner of the holes, from the top left, to the farthest right space, two squares over from the 90 degree wall, it will make a noise of victory and you lose the line. Gonna keep digging on this one while I wait to kill things.

People loved it for two weeks actually. We even had threads about spooking each other with data mining. The newfags will say we always hated it, but that's some revisionist history.

This is bait.

here are two (you)'s just for you

Even if it's shitty bait, you replied, so

The game is actually fine, but the fanbase is irredeemable cancer such that it's justifiably taboo to bring up the game itself lest any of them appear and/or mistakenly believe they are welcome.

The gameplay can be fun but it's rarely well-executed. Random encounters are a waste of time, only bosses are the meat of it. Gayrobot and Spiderwaifu is when it's best IMO.
An interesting concept yet had the worst execution possible. Want to kill everyone like a maniac? No, how about you grind for hours killing the extremely unchallenging random encounters until there's none left? All that just for TWO boss fights, but admittedly I enjoyed the reborn fish lady, real intense, but didn't have the patience to memorize every shit the meme skeleton puts you through.

>it's justifiably taboo to bring up the game itself lest any of them appear and/or mistakenly believe they are welcome.
funnily enough this actually was used by cuckchanners and gayfag users to fit in here when the game won their garbage poll
remember when there was atleast 1 thread with this image talking about how tumblrtale was an mk ultra project or some other dumb shit every day back in late 2015?

This is my fucking life now
Started a big boss genocide run, stayed for the holes.

They are all very charming to get through though.
This was done intentionally to dissuade the player from this challenge, but this is to the disservice of the game, since the fights are interesting and have depth to them, and if toby wasn't such a faggot he would have made both modes of play fun to do.

The one justification I've heard someone say about this is how the demo gives you the impression that the game was going to be be filled with demon-like monsters. Toby end on falling back on "lets just have another anthropomorphic character" in the main game.

Truth is the ruins was one of the weaker parts of the game, too many obnoxious puzzles and "lol tutorial handholding jokes". People claiming it was the good part are bullshitting themselves.

It happened again.

Every puzzle sucks and the map design is a bunch of lazy linear corridors, this is one of the weakest, if not the weakest aspect of the game.

>mfw the cianiggers and the A.I is shilling for tumblrtale

This looks like it took some effort, here's a well deserved (you)

>inb4 they start shilling for shitty cuck mario as well

botnet detected.

So if you make a line of what I think is 8 or 9 holes it will fill in and make the noise. No matter how wide the spacing is between them. Let's keep digging.

The puzzles get better after the ruins though. By no means the highlight of the game, but intuitive enough. Still have no idea what the fuck Toby was playing at with that pillar puzzle, or why he thought it was a good idea to keep the random encounters going during it.

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Where is Phil

shitty cuck mario shill detected
fuck off from my board glow in the dark cia nigger and give me back my 2000usd

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Yeah, that was on Cuckchan
Not here

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All the more reason for the taboo; like I said I consider it justified. Even though I have no problem with the game itself I'd be perfectly happy to never see it brought up here ever again, or at least for several years until the fans go away.

Phil please save us from Peter Gaybriel

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ban furries on sight, but there's no reason to discuss a game after the fans are all gone because the only people who will be here are people who dislike it for no reason.
That's how you get "now that the dust has settled" threads.

Demo came out 3 years before the game in 2012
You're the newfag if you think Holla Forums existed in 2012

there were threads about the demo in 2014 and 2015
i even remember some /s8s/fag telling everyone that the game had come out on the 8/v/ first anniversary stream chat

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Just came in here to say Undertale is a good game that requires you to play through all endings to understand the 4th wall breaking story.

It's really too bad that anything that looks furry immediately attracts obnoxious furries, troll furries, and people who hate anything even remotely furry related.

Play the game or pirate it and pass judgement yourself and you'll see why it gets praise despite it's shitty tumblr influence.

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I'm just here for the porn, man.

Undertale is an OK game, but a victim of popularity, thanks to Tumblr and other crowds hailing it as a second coming of Jesus, and "Games are finally art now :)))". Undue praise is an issue that can lead to resentment, as well as future games or publishers trying to build off of said undue priase (see the Yume Nikki steam localizers who wants the Undertale audience), and this can lead to disastrous results.

Undertale in itself is a neat little game, and it does have a lot of good writing and funny moments. I think the biggest problems with it are the dissonance between the gameplay and the story, as well as the "choices". Usually in a game with a moral choice there are legitimate arguments or reasons to pick one side or the other. After all, just look at New Vegas threads. However Undertale's moral "choice" is basically be a dick or don't. There's no reason to kill Monsters, no moral choice, not even a gameplay choice. For example in Star Control II you meet a trader race who will give you an artifact you need in exchange for selling your crew into slavery. However they will also part with the artifact if you happen to have and trade some equipment or rare shit to them. Here's a moral choice integrated into gameplay where you can sacrifice your crew and instantly get something you need for the main quest, or waste time or maybe equipment you might need to not be a slaver. One is the easier option, while the other is the harder option, but both integrate themselves fairly well into the gameplay. With Undertale, it's more tedious to genocide, there's no real reason to genocide, and the game itself is clearly built around not genocide (just look at how simplistic attacking is vs how defending is). It just seems to be added as an afterthought. And this is ignoring all the neutral runs which are only in the game for the sake of it, and the game even acknowledges that you'd only do them if you specifically wanted to. I just don't understand why the choice to kill was added in the first place, since it seems to be just for the sake of it and not for any gameplay reason.

Also on a smaller note I feel like the game peaks at Snowden. The Waterfall area is bland in comparison, though I understand wanting to slow down the pace a bit after Snowden, but the Lava/Hotel area is just a fucking chore. The pacing is awkward, the puzzles are boring, and Alphys is a terrible and boring character who could've easily been cut from the game. I don't even know why she's here since Mettaton could've very easily carried the entire section by himself, and she doesn't work off of Mettaton as well as Sans works off of Papyrus. The third act of the game just seems rushed and could've gone through a few more rewrites to pace it better.

Personally, if I was Toby, I would've cut a lot of the meat out. Cut the overworld, cut attacking and genocide run, and make the game a more linear set of bosses with story segments and the smaller monster fights inbetween. I think that would've made for a much stronger and more focused game. Of course that's not the shit that sells so maybe I'm wrong, I dunno.

nu/v/ going strong

The cancer is inoperable, user. Some things cannot be discussed for any significant amount of time without attracting vermin, as flies to rancid meat or rats to refuse. The only sensible solution is to be rid of it.

It's a mediocre game all in all, some unique aspects but heavily flawed and relies on its tumblr-like charm and humor to impress.

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It's mainly the cianigger A.I >>>/polk/28336 posting tbh. It should stop now in this thread that it has been revealed.

This and /thread.

I played it and it's endings
It's shit

This one does not go away no matter what.

The general consensus in the GG threads is that 2016 is an alright year to have joined the site. I'd agree with them, they seem like the authority on most of Holla Forums's history.

No it's fucking not. 2016 was the downhill year for Holla Forums. Honestly, if you also don't post on a secondary site after april fools, expect dissapointment.

Release was also well received, this shit is after-the-fact.

Hey, any time is alright to join if you're not a faggot, but you were late.

well if the gg thread says so then it must be true, thanks for the info user :^)

The only thing I can say about the game is that I don't like it much because it's too much of a deconstruction of the JRPG genera. It removes the things I like about JRPGs and so the crunch of the game ends up being too barebones for me.

The game is purified liberalism, an idealized utopia wherein nobody wants to ever take advantage of anybody else. It's a nice world.
It's an unreal world.

Because it's a story driven game. And the story behind the game revolves around video game meta, specifically paying attention to the concepts of completionism, player choice, grinding. That wouldn't be as effective if the player was forced to kill everything, as the choice to have a peaceful run and then genocide makes the ending much more effective. I agree with many of your points, but that's why it's the way it is.

It's a pig I guess.
This was fun.

It was 2015 before December - September not 2016 the year when Holla Forums kept drowning in intervals from broken site features. If you're going to go that route then you better post archives, posting out of GG threads won't release you of those standards. For example nuDoom's reception was big whopping "meh" when the demo was released.
archive.is/amH8e - nuDOOM Demo
archive.is/Qc1Pn - nuDoom Demo 2

April fools was last year you mongrel, and all those sites are dead or just bunkers.

Fuck off
T. 2015 newfag

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See I know I'm newfag scum, 2015/6 election fags don't
I got here a few months before Trump and if you'd believe it, it's because of /bane/ and the 4u9525 plane crash

still too new
i used to consider Holla Forums harbor the start of the newfag cancer but at this point its too late for this board to be actually good anymore tbh

If you weren't around to see 100K, get lost.

Newfags fuck off and LURK MOAR
The point of being a fucking oldfag was not posting when you fucking came here and shaming people who did
Now that you're spoonfed leave this thread and actually learn to be a better person.

Of course not
The last time Holla Forums was good was the Boston salt party
And with Holla Forums there are faggots there today that have never heard of the Rothschild family

this tbh

Fuck off newfag you're just pretending to be all high and mighty because you lurked for a month before posting
:^)

11 holes is the max before it clears out.

A genuine game.dev horror story

Okay, this thread is making me feel a bit too much. Where's the M E M E G A M E faggot when he's actually needed.

No, not really.
People did misinterpret what the demo was actually about and complained a lot about things like save mechanics not actually being major in a demo that tauted them as a gimmick in addition to the actual important part of the game, killing literally everyone or being friends with everyone.
Of course what do I know, I've only played this game for over a thousand hours

You mean Phil?
He has possibly committed suicide

If you were on chans before GG and didn't come in the great exodus you should unironically kill yourself tbh fam

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Is it done yet?

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perfect timing.

They're working on snowdin Last I checked

Half of those people are jews. God, I hate post zimmerman Holla Forums.

Says the user who posts a meme felating the british flag and a bunch of Jews. With no edits or modifications to any of the pictures surrounding them where is Assad's shades? Why is Snowden not having a gun to his head? Where is the cross? Why isn't Gaddafi dead? etc.

He knew what he was doing, he wanted to make his own (((ideal))) Earthbound since he began posting on Starmen.net, and he knew from working on Homestuck how to make it sell. Don't spread this myth.

Hello kettle? Pot called.

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This. I'd still give him credit for actually finishing a decently sized game but he definitely didn't make it on his own like a lot of people claim, nor is it very good past the surface level. And he's not ashamed at all that his game became popular, he used to hang out with Homosuck fans at conventions.

I don't actually remember this part.

It's the objective point where things went to shit. I'm only still here because I'm fairly confident the niglets making up most of nu/pol/ will eventually hit adulthood.

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I really do wish these weren't so unintelligible,they'd probably be funnier.

I agree with you except the overworld's size is important in making the game feel like a big journey.

My biggest pet peeve in Undertale is that there's no option to simply kill Asgore and leave the underground or sacrifice yourself to Asgore and watch what the monsters do now that they can leave. Throwing away an interesting moral choice of staying and helping or forgetting them all because Toby was too lazy to make a proper ending so you have to deal with that flower every single time is bullshit.

It would be better for genocide runs if the enemy encounters were actually seen like in Paper Mario so you're not wandering and grinding all day. Also the genocide ending sucks too, it's my game and if you're going to lecture me on daring to play again after killing everyone I'll delete the .exe and not feel one iota of guilt.

One of the main problems with the launch version was in the demo flowey reacted to major player choices, and in the final game sans barely reacts and the endings barely change. Replacing the 4th wall breaking character with the meme skeleton was a mistake.

As shit as the game is, this image was proven bullshit a while ago. The guy who spammed this image also spammed a fake ass pixel art image to compare effort quality.

Quit lying about being here for longer than 3 weeks dipshit.

it got popular
any other excuses are just that, excuses
people started hating it because it got poupuler

Basically the demo was a concentrated collection of good gameplay sections whereas the full game has gameplay that is diluted by cancer.

it got popular.

Undertale was a charming little game with a real nice ost, the praise and the hate it received are both undeserved. Why do people sperg about a 6 hours long (and that's being generous) game, I will never understand.
About what you found, it's a little surprising since the dev went out of his way to make every "puzzle" easy as fuck while still being entertaining. Maybe he planned it to be more challenging ?

You're half right.

See, the demo had the whole game concentrated into just the ruins and you got to see the repercussions of your actions much more quickly. In the full game, you don't get to see those repercussions until much later unless you're going into the deliberate genocide route.

The main problem is that, as everyone stated, the game got popular and as with anything that got popular, it became cancer filled when the game didn't have deliberate "fuck you, you need to be good at gameplay to progress" moments due to the game being more of a puzzle game than anything.


It probably would have been if it wasn't flooded with normalfag cancer.

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Holla Forums is just kids who grew out of Holla Forums and like videogames
they parrot whatever meme shit is posted here without thinking and will find any excuse to shitpost.

Seeing GG cancer on 4chan and moot trying to kill Holla Forums made me stop using imageboards for like 4 months, because 4chan had become flooded with reddit immigrants as a result of GG, and I heard that Holla Forums was also full of GG faggots, so I just stopped using 4chan and never went on Holla Forums until months later in 2015.


The game is shit, I tried playing it and I got so sick of the stupid skeleton jokes that I deleted it. I can find better games than that on Newgrounds, why is this being sold and not just put up as a flash game where it belongs? Granted I pirated it, I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea.

Post one.

only interesting thing interesting about that demo was the goat mom, I didn't pay attention to it again until way after it came out. discovered that there was no option to seduce goat mom ( maybe they removed all that dialogue). so there was no reason for me care about the game. ( also from what I understand it was completely absorbed by the Stephen universe fandom and became extremely cringe)

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i want to fuck gotemom

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bravo radiation, I guess dunderbail really was a blunderfail

correction: several FOTM waifus

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absolutely BTFO

It's ok. The save fuckery is a really cool idea, but it's barely used at all (killing Toriel, going back, and re-playing gets you unique dialog. This happens for almost literally nobody else in the fucking game, other than at the very end). The changes to the end of the pure pacifist run after a genocide run are ok, but that's it. The save fuckery, which was the main reason I bought the game literally only does anything at the very beginning and end.
The characters are ok, some are pretty entertaining, and there are some decent scenes. The puzzles are shit. The music is legitimately really good, and the use of leitmotif is fantastic (other than Muffet having the ghost leitmotif for literally fucking no reason).

All in all, it's actually a bit of a letdown. I played through all the routes, and the game is kind of a big boring slog other than the beginning and end, and some isolated scenes. The story is generally forgettable. The demo made it seem like the whole game was going to be workable through the cool save fuckery, where you could change something in the game by doing something, turning it off without saving, and then turning it back on and going back. Nope, only works at the beginning and end of the game. Boring.

Also, all the random encounters are one-trick. Some of them are sort of interesting, but once you know the trick, you might as well just skip every other one of those and ignore that monster type forever. Some bosses are okay, but the genocide-run bosses are the best (the rest of genocide run is boring as shit)

It's really not bad; some of the characters are pretty tumblr, but that's overblown. There is some lesbianism, but who gives a shit? There is some gay stuff, but it's just a gay joke. Frisk has no canonical gender, but that's just so the player can pretend that they're Frisk. So the hate is overblown. The love is overblown. Everything is overblown. It's an okay game with good prospects that didn't really follow through, but good music. Everything worth discussing in the game has already been discussed, really.

Most of the fan shit is stupid, but Sir is always gold.

haha

Once upon a time, there were many anonymous imageboards with decent traffic based on the yotsuba codebase (or other independent codebases). 7ch and krautchan were legitimately competitive to 4chan in traffic (especially because halfchan went down for a few days at a time a couple times a year, and tons of people migrated off permanently in frustration, expecting moot to give up and drop 4chan forever). Even 12(andunder)chan got tons of traffic for a while, but mostly just from the pedos.

I'm not sure where this aversion to the word "chans" is coming from. It existed a decade ago too, and when asked what you should call them, people usually said "they're anonymous imageboards". Who gives a shit? There were almost none of them without the "chan" moniker; it's clear and unambiguous what you're talking about. It's a bit stupid now, given that everything other than 8ch and 4chan is dead as shit (and both 8ch and 4chan are dead on the inside), but before GG, it wasn't a very distant memory, and only retarded autists get pissed about a term with a clear implication and meaning.

Seems to be a pretty standard metroidvania fair with some rpg parody elements, I can see why you posted it but it falls short in comparison.


I asked for one because I don't have the time to play five, dumbass.

From those that I have already played though I would say you also don't have any perspective on a quality game whose content justifies being free and a quality game whose content justifies a price tag. Also I thought you would have at least posted Tower of Heaven since that had a soundtrack that could stand up to Undetale's.

If a game has a price tag, it should be better than those free games that it's competing with. Also, the music in Undertale isn't bad but it's not memorable.

Anyway you don't have to play all of them , just pick the one that looks like you'd like it the best, I personally had a lot more fun with all of those games than I did with Undertale, just because they all have a lot more interesting gameplay and characters.

I expected way worse got any chara x goat

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This is bullshit. The music is incredibly memorable, owing largely to the leitmotif. Undertale is mediocre as a whole, but the music is really well-composed and well-arranged. Compared to the vast majority of games (AAA and indie) released in the past decade, Undertale's music is top-of-the-line. The only game that really competes in music is Cave Story, which is a bit better (but doesn't take advantage of leitmotif at all).

get that tumblrtale cock out of your mouth, nitpicking cunt

its OK
no

I think you might actually be autistic.

It does, through the content for one thing. I mean for crying out loud the soundtrack alone totals over two hours.

How many games released since 2008 have had better music?

nier, nier automata, halo odst, skyward sword, splatoon, mario 3d world, mario odyssey, persona 4, deadly premonition, botanicula, hotline miami, hotline miami 2, revengeance, anarchy reigns, mgs 5, sonic mania, the list goes on and on, even itty bitty no-name japanese doujin games that have only been downloaded 600 times like super hook girl had better music

my man undertale is fine but its nothing special, it's at best inoffensive, but ultimately feels very unoriginal and quite tired at that, sonically the aesthetics are a bit all over the place, leaning on 8-bit square and triangle waves but also have its share of 16-bit PCM samples it's all over the place and the lack of cohesion really hurts the overall presentation

So you play it for the music? I don't really see a reason why undertale's score is more significant than any of the NES soundtracks that it's inspired by, its definitely at the same level, but that doesn't make it groundbreaking or something. I don't just play a game for having a good soundtrack, I play it for gameplay.

I mean especially in 2016-17 a lot of games released with comparable or better osts
Off the top of my head:
and that's just to name a few.

That's because it was another episode of contrarian Holla Forums:

Don't give me that stupid ass explanation of either it being shit from the very beginning or people here enjoying something that was just "flavor of the month", I vividly remember thread after thread discussing the game in detail and even enjoying some memeposting about papyrus and other characters, this board enjoyed the game but suddenly it wasn't cool to enjoy it anymore and since nobody here has any backbone to stick to what they like because of muh sekrit kewl kidz club acceptance mentality, undertale became a taboo subject.

I get it, the game certainly has its flaws and is a product of its time that won't age that well, especially the referential style of comedy, I agree with that much and I certainly hate the way tumblr attached to it, but don't deny that people here also enjoyed it and probably still do but don't openly say it because "Holla Forums will not like me!!!". It's funny how "Holla Forums isn't a person" is parroted around except on cases like this, where you have to toe the party line or you're an outcast, and it's an attitude that unfortunately plagues Holla Forums, because videogame discussion and approval is apparently entirely dependent not on the game's own merits but on what other people or community happens to like it too.

My point is one of the amount of content in the game. If the soundtrack alone is that long then it's going to have far more content in the game than any free newgrounds title you could post.

xdddd why would care about what people care of you when anonymous??? ?? ?? dddddaa

persona 5's is great, but nier automata is a masterpiece that is woven with the game play perfectly.

I forgot automata was 2017, I could've sworn it was 2015.

pic related.
Come on, man. Even Sonic Mania was 80% remixes from the early 90s. And it's pretty disingenuous to completely ignore the motifs and themes to focus on the soundfonts used.


I played it because I was expecting better from the game. It didn't really deliver, but the music was good. I'm not recommending the game, I'm just saying the music was good and nothing else. It's more significant because it has a far wider array of melodies used in interesting ways.


Most of those are pretty good. Undertale's is still top-of-the-line, and I'd still put it over most of those (though I do like Underhell's atmospheric shit).
And no, re-releases don't count, otherwise you could just pull in all virtual console games released since then. There's really no point being pedantic about a game being "released" in the past decade just because it had a re-release; that's not the point and you know it.

I think the $10 pricetag was justifiable. I played the game around when it was new, and got over 20 hours out of it over different runs. Obviously the fanbase give it a bad rep, but it was not a bad game, I enjoyed it for what it was and it was a memorable experience.

The biggest fuckup of all time with N;A was not having Emi Evans sing The End of YorHa. Aside from the chaos language singing her english version of the ending song from Nier was excellent. Holla Forumsposting complete aside the nigress that sings The End of YorHa isn't very good.

what did you mean by this?

quality over quantity. Abundant content means nothing if its just bad skeleton jokes.


I pirated it and got bored very quickly.

this is something games have been doing since the 80s, its nothing special and undertale doesn't really do anything interesting with it. nier automata on the other hand weaves its audio signature into a climactic moment of having other players join to help you as a chorus sang by the literal developers of one of the games most iconic tracks builds up more and more in a perfect moment of audio directing. 3D world also does the exact same thing you're praising undertale for.

halo odst also has a god tier soundtrack and you're a plebe if you don't like it.


I thought emi evans was singing in it? Maybe I misheard. Who were the singers besides the entire development team?

I mean patapon was literal end of 2007 and it's two sequels came out within the decade and have really great osts.
I was more looking for an excuse to say patapon and you know that

LOL

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The beta music was better tbh

Which it isn't. Sans doesn't even show up that much in the game, hell he stops making bad skeleton puns almost immediately after you first meet him.

And that's what I mean by "a quality game whose content justifies being free and a quality game whose content justifies a price tag", you're trying to convince me that Undertale could have been some free Newgrounds game when it clearly has far more content than what is to be expected from them.

those mother 3 sound fonts were best left in mother 3

The English singing part in Weight of the World was done by J'Nique Nicole, pic related. Which I find unfortunate because Emi does all of the other singing afaik.

how unfortunate, the impact of the song is not diminished however

How far did you even go in the game? I assume you never even went past Snowdin.

Someone is gonna fall for this we've already had idiots on here who thought a SiIvaGunner song was from the actual game and accused Toby of plagiarism.

Mother 3 was all premade instruments that already existed.

do you know what a soundfont is user

More specifically the library of soundfonts were already assembled and in other games.

Do you know what a DLS file is?
FAGGOT

Yeah I didn't, after I completed that whole section I never played it again. If your game is complete shit for the first hour or however long I played it, then I wont waste my time in hopes that there is a "good part" waiting right around the corner.

10/10

You must not play many games then, if you drop them after a boring first hour.

Faggots like you are why videogames are getting harder and harder to discuss here

I remember the game heavily implying that the monster world being barricaded was what prevented them from being eradicated completely, not that they posed a threat to humans.

I'm convinced that one of the less obvious drawbacks of piracy is that games have become more disposable, and people put less time into games that don't immediately grip them, because they have nothing to lose, as opposed to twenty years ago, when you had a much more limited supply of games and would play them whether or not they were shit because they came from your parents or out of your allowance/lunch money.

All proof to the contrary notwithstanding. There's a reason tumblr is drawn to it, just like they are drawn to everything else that is garbage. They're like flies and shit.

If you're wondering where all the goatposting and porn is, >>>/underground/

You know tumblrinas like anime, and stalker, and dorf fort. There's at least one person on that website that likes what you like. Guess you can't like anything now huh? You should stop breathing because tumblr does that too.

die

nigga a high tumblr concetration speaks ill on a community. Tumblr may like good things but it also likes bad things just as much. If a community is entirely tumblr you have a fucking issue.

I guess you're right. It may have been naivete and not knowing shit about videogames but I remember when my dad used to buy me a videogame a month and I certainly cherished the fuck out of whatever piece of garbage I ended up bringing home and all the controllers that would break a month in which the videogame store would sell me, the goddamned jews


And you're the second kind of faggot that's lowering videogame discussion quality around here

Oh, fuck off with your bullshit. Sure, there's the odd faggot on tumblr that doesn't have absolutely abysmal tastes, but they're 0,001% of that godforsaken shithole of a community. Let me list you all the garbage that is overwhelmingly popular on tumblr.

It's like a hitlist of all the filth humanity has managed to shit out in the past decade. So, yes, if tumblr likes it a lot it is shit.

I don't see what you mean user.

Good thing no one here uses tumblr, and thus shouldn't give a shit about the community or what tumblr does.


You seem to care an awful lot about what tumblr likes. I bet tumblr has a huge batman following. Is batman now turbocancer LGBTQXYZ+ pandering garbage? Your argument is invalid. Beaners love fighting games, are all fighting games trash? Japan loves mobile game and gachashit, does that mean it's good?

/mtt/ attacks children

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Yes.

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Faggot you know what I meant. The concept of batman itself is not tainted just because others like it. And address my other examples.

quick reminder that chara is a nigger

Well I'm gonna have to concede you're the expert on tumblr here user, well done.

I did hear that Cuphead was also popular on there, would you argue that's a bad game as well?

I know you're meaning the goalpost.

That has nothing to do with the argument. The current iteration of Batman is pozzed and panders to tumblr.

Pretty much, yeah. There's a reason niggers flock to them.

Now you're just grasping at straws. Why do Nips love gachashit, and what percentage of Nips plays them?

What did he move by this?

It has fucking everything to do with my argument. The game itself is good or bad by itself. No amount of retards liking it will change this.

And japs fucking flock to gachashit, it's everywhere and they love mobile gaming. So go ahead, tell me it's good cause they like it. Also
I already knew you were a faggot, but wew.

If the game is good then why is the first hour shit? Why cant the author create anything compelling about his game after a whole hour? The only fun part of the game was killing the goat mom. The art is poor, the music is OK but nothing special, and I only had fun in the two minutes or however long it took to kill the goat mom. Most of it was just walking through boring uninspired puzzles while the characters talk to you about something vapid. So, that's what the game used to draw me in.

The first part of a game is supposed to give you a good representation of what the rest of the game will be like. If it's just a waste of time, then I won't continue.

How embarrassing, even by my standards.

Thankfully the game is garbage and the only reason it got so popular is because of the "quirky" story, art and shitty soundtrack.

If you weren't stupid you'd know they flock to it for the same reason they flock to pachinko.

They don't love mobile gaming per se, it's that many of them commute to work/school for one or two hours every day and need something to do with the time.

I'm sorry you enjoy spending time with niggers. Maybe one of them can punch you in the face to cure you of the anti-racism.

I'm not changing the topic. I am explaining why I can play a game for an hour to know if its shit or not.

Well if you don't continue after the first hour you don't get to say that the entire game is garbage, you dense nigger. If I only completed the first level of Indigo Prophecy is it OK for me to judge the entire game based on that level and call it a great game? If I only beat Liberty Island in Deus Ex do I get to say that the game is boring as fuck?

You're probably one of those dumb bitches that heard the game was tumblr on Holla Forums and just played the tutorial to complain about it without ever giving it a chance.

If you beat liberty island and didn't like it, then sure why not? The first level is a good representative of the rest of the game.

I don't have to eat the entire plate of shit to tell what it is. Do you think that, I have to play fallout 4 in its entirety to know if the game is shit or not?

2/3 of Fahrenheit were great. When grandma becomes the AI it's when you know Cage ran out of drugs.

No surprise you like Undertale. They should put you down like a rabid dog.

Oh so now you actually try to make real arguments about the game's quality? Seems like the person moving goalposts is you. And retard, maybe you weren't aware, but to play a game doesn't mean I have to go and physically spend time in person with other random niggers who play it.

The gameplay is garbage, but tumblr really doesn't give two shits about gameplay anyway since they are leftist mental cripples. What they do care about is the narrative, and the narrative was made to pander to them, and by God is it shit.

Please stop embarrassing yourself trying to pretend an aborted Earthbound romhack made by a gay furry is good.

Because due to nature of the game's development (released the first part of the game as a demo in order to promote the kickstarter and fund the rest of the game) there is some obvious teething issues in the game design. The game also had a case of Toby's ambition for it increasing after the kickstarter was far more successful than he anticipated. Yes he probably should have redone the ruins section afterwards but instead we've got a game which does get better around the middle section and only shows its full hand at the endings.

I'm assuming you also haven't heard the game's full soundtrack since you wouldn't have compared it to NES if you had.

I never made such a claim that it was good, only that the argument about tumblr was trash and that you're stupid.

Yes you fucking do. As godlike as your super videogame analysis skills are you can't get to predict how an entire videogame is like from just looking at the cover. Whether you enjoy it or not you have to play a fucking game to pass judgement on it.

Again with the empty smug passive-agressiveness. Are you a woman? You write as petty and catty as one

Oh, so you agree with me that the game is garbage? Well, thank you.


user, we've already established you're an animal. If you think Liberty Island is boring you might as well end your life.

There are a lot of flash games with same amount of content, heck even more than undertale
I'll give you one for the soundtrack, though

You belong in the kitchen, just be a good girl and I might even let you suck my dick. You can even keep thinking I'm an animal and pretend it's bestiality if you keep your mouth shut.

meant to quote>>14170126

Undertale is still a shit game. You can ad hominem all you like and it doesn't change this simple fact.

What a great idea, friend! I'll just purchase fallout 4 on Steam and play it in its entirety. Then, I'll get back to you. :^)


This isn't one of your lewd roleplay disagreements, faggot.

I meant disagreement, fuck

>Calling out my ad hom now of all times
Bitch please. You wouldn't know videogames if I came them over your 3DPD face.

Wew

Not necessarily. A shit game can be shit all the way through, and a good game won't always be good for the entirety of it, but if you can't continue a game because you don't enjoy it after the first hour or so, then the game has failed in that respect to be an enjoyable experience. That doesn't make for a good review of the game, it just means that one person didn't like the first hour of gameplay and wasn't interested in finishing the rest of the game. I, as a person who cannot simply hate things on a surface level, who would go through countless hundreds of hours just to see every flaw with a game, playing through on the most difficult modes just to see the limits of my capacities as a player and the game itself, cannot bring myself to only get an hour deep into a game even if I hate it. I feel some urgency as a player to defeat the challenge, even if the unintended challenge is boredom. I will continue to push and break through at all costs. It's simply the sign of a weak willed person to be unable to finish what they started for the sake of an objective, wholesale look at what they have before them.
It's obviously not for everyone; you shouldn't force yourself to play games you don't like, but I feel that if you only understand that you like or dislike something, it's not enough; there's always a why; a what; a how.
Dark souls 3 is an objectively worse game when compared to dark souls 1, but why is that? There's more armor, it's graphically superior technically, and the physics are more realistic. Well the plot is a mess, conflicts with DaS1's set lore, had its own idea for a plot and just mixed it into the dying of the fire idea which leads to building up one single boss for the duration of the game and not following through with anything and having that boss be a big nobody. You get shots of all the bosses being awakened and you see who your enemies are, but the entire first part of the game is so disjointed from that idea; you are told to go fight these dudes, and then the 5 bosses on the main path are not these dudes. The 6th fight, which you can get into earlier to be fair, though it's pointless to, is against one of the lords of cinder, and there is no build up to that at all; you are just told this is the swamp of farron, also the abyss watchers are down there. They could have done something neat where you have to fight your way through a bunch of the mini abysswatchers and then you get all the way to the boss room and there's one last abyss watcher standing there. He does the pose and then beefs up, and then you fight a single lord who jumps all over the place ala artorias or guts. All in all, the game had a lot of potential and no direction, so it just fizzled outward like a puddle and burbled a little.
The point is you can't really know a game unless you play it through and through, but you don't need to know that it's shit from more than a little bit of play.

Says the cuck that got so buttblasted people make fun of xer's tumblr bait.

Mark strikes again.

Says the literal videogame cuck that watches other people play videogames instead of them.

Point is, I don't have to waste my time playing fallout 4 to know that it's a bad game. I can even watch gameplay footage and look at articles written about it to know what bad game it is.


Putting a space between separate replies to separate posts is fine.

For it to get better it would have to be good. Either way that swf is still a better game. You done bitching yet faggot?

Care to point out the post where I said I watch people play games instead of playing them myself?

It is, but it's unnecessary, since the quoted post number is on its own line, and is so short that it functions as a line break anyway.

Do you also not separate paragraphs when writing something? Same concept there, separating two different parts.

It's been 4 fucking months I've been away and the redditors still won't fucking LURK.

I'm more saying in an allegorical sense letting tumblr dictate your tastes is more akin to cuckholdry than refusing to allow it to dictate your tastes, because essentially you're surrendering any kind of dominance over the piece of media to an alternative party.
It's essentially the videogame opinion equivalent of cuckholdry. That could only be cemented further if you made any kind of emotional or temporal investment in the game.

My point is that the game is shit, and since tumblr likes shit they are drawn to the game. Now take those sleeping pills you've been stealing from your mother.

Undertale has moral choices, more or less, but it doesn't have moral dilemmas. The main theme of the game is treating monsters as people with personalities. It grew out of a battle system that lets you talk with your enemy. It lets that interact with the traditional model where you kill enemies for convenience and it doesn't have a real impact on the world whether you do so or not.
The result is a game where there's no good justification for killing people, which is not obvious at first - not until it reveals that resetting is something in the story, not just a game mechanic, and that killing even random encounters is something characters react to and affects the story. The game doesn't call you evil for killing enemies (unless you do the route where you have to grind to kill everyone and choose to murder an innocent child who doesn't even have arms and so on and so on), it just tells you that you have the power to fix it.
It would have to be a different kind of game to have dilemmas.

Maybe if he did redo the ruins section, I would have played longer. I still don't think that a game needs to have this many excuses made for it. If it's really so good, it shouldn't just be bothersome. Also, even if all the fat would be trimmed, it is still a mediocre gameplay experience. I've seen how it plays in the later sections, and it's not really designed to challenge the player or be a gatekeeper as much as it is to make a player feel accomplished for beating the enemy.

I have heard the songs, but I never sat through the whole soundtrack- because while it's not bad music, it's not music that I think is interesting to listen too. And no, it is not anything that is not significant than the soundtracks of NES games that I've played, its just that it's got some extra effects while still trying to deliver the same style of composition without being too faithful to the limits of the NES or other old consoles. I won't call it bad but it doesn't sell the game and it doesn't stand out enough to make me want to keep playing a bad game.

I agree with you on everything but
What I consider to know a game is what you said in the previous paragraph: to be able to review the game in it's entirety and be able to give decent bullet points on why the game is the quality it is. If we go by what the other dumbass said then how do we know how much should a person play to know it's garbage? If we pretend these kind of opinions have any sort of validity then we open the floodgates for anons who don't play anything and just shitpost all day to ruin this board for everyone else. You can call a game shit whenever you like when you're playing it, however if you stop after, let's say, the first hour, your experience doesn't reflect the entire game and you shouldn't pretend like it does.

Projection much? Walk away from the computer, getting unnecessarily angry does bad things for your skin

You're arguing in favor of being able to know the quality of a videogame without playing it. Just thought I'd let you know.

Download a save file that is right before the Sans Genocide bossfight, and play that. Come back afterwards.

people must remember
child is nigger

That makes absolutely no fucking sense. Something that's bad can't get better? I can't believe that somebody would say something like this without a hint of irony. You're either shitposting or retarded.

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why is it shit though user? Surely you have evidence to back up your claim. Otherwise we'd both just be making claims back and forth and refuting them with nothing because neither of us would be providing evidence. That doesn't get us anywhere.
The music isn't anything special, but every area's tune enhances the experience of that area. The areas are short because you're inside of a cave, and while it doesn't make sense in some places, you can very easily get sucked into the world with the art and music they put in. Every area has its own set of unique enemies; there is no area that completely reuses enemies besides near the final stages where you fight leveled up versions of the first enemies, but they are still given their own attacks and artwork. The most interesting part of the game is that you don't need to fight anything, and you're rewarded for going through the game and befriending everything; there was a sense of joy I felt when I went through the interesting dialogue of each quaint little foe, each of them having their own backstory laid bare; in most other games you just fight an enemy, wonder what it's called, what it represents, and you need to look it up, whether in game or on a wiki. In Undertale they took the idea of looking it up away and just put it into a description in the game. On the contrary, a game like OFF does everything in its power to hide the meanings of the enemies even though it completely describes them to you, and throughout the game you are constantly questioning your own morality while you're bashing baby wrestlers to death.
I could go on and on about the feats of undertale, but I doubt you could refute even one of my points.

My point was that a bad game will reveal itself out of the gate to be bad; it's really up to the user to play as much of the game as they like, but it is also our responsibility to bring up how much of the game has been played, and mock the person who decides that playing for a couple minutes, an hour, or two, is reasonable enough to draw an accurate conclusion on the game. It's the problem we had a long while ago with GZ where everyone was saying the main story was beatable in 20 minutes to defame kojima, and then it was revealed that this wasn't accurate because it was a very beelined experience of one single mission.

This is the kinda shit that irritates me. If you don't like the first hour of a game you get to talk about the first hour of the game; if you weren't there, don't talk about it;
don't fucking bring up the rest of the game that you didn't play
I swear to christ if you went on a DMC thread and said the first hour of playing as nero in DMC4 sucks so the whole game sucks you'd get reamed so hard your asshole would consume your legs and you'd have more than just one of your feet in your mouth.

yeah two entire bossfights means challenge right?

Is it a gook? Is it a nigger?
Man, the author sure knows how to write good characters with all this ambiguity.

The normal game is made to stop casuals from being challenged in any significant way, this is why you are immediately going for the hardest fight on an optional path in the game that most players don't even take, which is designed to be difficult since it's supposed to be a gatekeeper that lets people try and claim that the game isn't the incredibly casual game that it is. Anyway I have downloaded it, I will beat it now to show you.


Yes, and…? I don't have to eat shit to know what it tastes like.


haha wow user, It sounds like the DMC thread is full of tough guys that I really wouldn't want to mess with! Whatever would I do when they start writing gay roleplay posts at me?

Why should anyone waste time arguing with you? You're obviously a tumblr cocksucker enamored with this piece of shit game.

Let me put it this way, the gameplay is simplistic and is in service to the narrative, which would be okay since Fallout 1 and 2 suffer from a similar imbalance, but the narrative is fucking garbage. It's godawful tumblr retardation ramming their narcissistic, nauseating "let's all get along, except you Nazi pigs #PunchaNazi" narrative. The fact you're this obsessed with a game that has less depth than a flash game means you're into it because of the narrative, and if you're in it for the narrative you're a Holla Forums subhuman, simple as that.


Can't be a gook, chink or nip, leftists hate them just as much as they hate whites. It's either a spic, mudshit or nigger, more likely some godforsaken mutant combining the genetic garbage of all three.

tbh undertale would have been better if it was made by a segafag instead of a nintencuck

It'd have better soundfonts

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laugh at this woman, she has lost her composure.

The game has too roadbumps on it's road to being piss easy, if the challenge isn't sustained what's the fucking point?

*two

Ok, you have proven one of the boss fights is challenging, I don't feel like continuing to fight it, but my points about the normal game failing to challenge the player are true. Sans is only a gatekeeper here because he unlocks no real content except for bragging rights (I guess?). I've never played a bullet hell game before but I feel that I could beat this fight in another hour or so if i kept trying, but, I don't have the time to spend on it.


The game is designed to be easy on the ego of the casual audience, while having one fight hidden away, that isn't needed to beat the game, so that people can claim it isn't an easy game.

There a few reasons for this.
Obviously one of the big ones was the horrible fanbase, but there's another one that's usually not mentioned.
Undertale was meant to be very different to the final product, anybody who followed it knows this, but for one reason or another Toby Fox scrapped his original idea of the game and made the rest of it like the demo. There are glimmers of what it was meant to be shining through, like Undyne's boss, but that was thrown away.

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it's above 9MB, it's fine.

a.uguu.se/SSLLeE7oeIjz_2018-01-16-1651-18.flv

My webm converter didnt like how the sound was in this file. So, thats why.

If something shit improves then it becomes less worse. Not better.

I don't understand why you're still here.

There's nothing fine about that.

Well it did exist in 2013.

Because they got made fun of and they can't let it go.

Why hasn't this thread been deleted yet? At least bumplock it. Jesus.

Ripped the audio, converted to opus, then copied to webm. What converter were you using?

It's at 240 replies already, so it's not like it matters.

Webm for retards 2.20. I got it in 2014 when webm support was added to 4chan.

Is my presence bothering you, OP? Are you going to roleplay at me again?

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Gave it another shot and finished it, holy shit are you kidding me user? The ending is a bunch of cringey deviant art pics followed by a to be continued

You fags know toby came out and said he just put gays in the game because he thought gays were funny right? And that he hates the tumblr following. And animal man monsters are some of the most common since the dawn of time amongst any work of fiction.

Undertale still gets hate dispite this shit because people are retards that just want to hate on shit for reasons outside of the game and think anyone really cares about tumblr.

I'm gonna need some fucking proofs.

Fucking try hard retards
The only reason im here to stay now is because the good shitposting chan died from chinese bitcoin mining scripts or some shit.

Ive been here off and on since the birth of the board but you idiots are so slow and strongly lacking in good memes and shitposts compared to what Im used to. I mean for gods sakes there arent 10 cuck porn threads up constantly. I ask myself more and more each day whats the point of coming back but i dont know what else to do online to kill time.

ebin

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google.com/amp/s/www.please use archive.is/interview-undertale-game-creator-toby-fox/amp/

In addition to these i know there was a big rant on 4chan he posted about how furfags are the reason he wasnt going to make dlc but i couldnt find it on google images.

Pretty boys game when?

would you like to try again with an archive?

I know the third is legit. The first is likely BS though. I don't really see how any of this defends the game being a heap of shit to play though.

Undertale haters are just jealous /agdg/ fags who are salty because they're too autistic to finish their games and gain a cult following.

Bait elsewhere.

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say please you fuck

I unfortunately have no idea when it was posted other than a couple months after the game came out. Im not asking you to take my word on it either i was just peeved i couldnt find it again.


I think the game is falsely advertised as a bullet hell game when its basically more of a rpgmaker type of rpg. Which is at this point basically a sub genre. But iunno man i liked it but you dont have to. I just get mad when people say they dont like it because its sjw and furry when its not.

Very similar shit with mortis ghost and off with how he was upset to see the extreme porn and shit tumblr following his game had but that shouldnt mean off is a bad game because some of the community is bad. It might be a bad game because its slow and has pretty basic combat though. But again i liked it because witj rpg maker type games you arent usually signing up for excellent gameplay, just hoping for a weird trip through a strange land.

for it to be an rpg there would have to be stats of some kind. And considering the "stats" in the game are more of a gimmick I wouldn't call it an RPG.
Well I don't have shit taste.
Watch a fucking movie.

What was it originally going to be like?

What was it going to be originally?
also is anyone else having trouble with this fucking website? im having trouble downloading a fucking gif fuck

They just copied the gems from Claymates

I can definitely hear more of the earthbound inspiration in the beta songs

I guarantee that first one is a fake since half of his close friends are some flavor of lgbtqetcetc degenerates

Originally he had plans for the game to not be shit but they were discarded upon his realizing that would be impossible.

The short version is Toby along with the rest of the Homestuck fandom left him hanging when the dude needed help, the long version is below.
I'll just need a little preface for this. Most of the music in Homestuck are remixes of a handful of songs, and the artist I'm talking about is one of the guys who wrote two of these. Compared to Toby he was more a fan of Cave Story than a cult member of Earthbound, and so he was the classical technician to Toby's (((modern artist))), when it came to composing music, which you can hear in his songs. He was pretty distant from Homestuck and somewhat of a NEET. He didn't talk about politics and kept his opinion to himself even when he was on the team. This not taking sides thing is anthema to most people/normalfags nowadays, which include most of the modern Homestuck music and art team, so aside from donating a song which occasionally finds its way into a Homestuck album he's pretty much cut off from socializing with the fandom, which may explain how he received almost jack shit in donations when his house burned down in the middle of winter and nobody including Toby spread the word about it. Still didn't prevent him from trying to help and explain things, as you can see in this video. From going into the no man's land of twitter/tumblr/reddit he's probably currently living on NEETbux from being diagnosed with clinical depression. It's honestly really depressing.

Fourth is probably true, Toby really doesn't want people to bring up his old hack, partially because it's a proto Undertale with its meta mechanics and pointlessly inserted gay shit, partially because he wants to scrub all of his internet past clean and this is his bloody stain on his hands, so to speak.

4th is legit and is in response to MatPat's SANS IS NESS theory, that tweet is what people refer to when people talk about how matt's tumblrtale theories were wrong.

yes
toby fucked the full release up hard the demo is one of the best games I've played and had the most fun talking with anons about

Literally kill yourself

Literally kill yourself

I don't really see anything wrong with that. If he actually thinks they were mistakes, he might as well burn them before they become known and he has to suffer backlash for opinions that aren't his anymore. Everyone did and said retarded shit when they were young.

several of those posts were mine

Zelda is an RPG because I RP as Link I guess :^)
The delusion is inoperable I see. Stay mad tumblr.

If you showed up here in 2016 you should be lurking until at least the end of 2018 and preferably most of 2019 before you even post.

Top tier:
High tier:
Mid tier:
Low tier:
Shit tier:
Even worse than Holla Forums-tier:

The term is imageboard and it's always been imageboard because there used to be text-only boards called, surprisingly, textboards. Post-chanology faggots starting calling them chans because they didn't know any better. Fuck off with your defence of newfags.

Is it fucking 2015 again?


How?

The game did a 180 in tone right after the segment the demo covered ended. Only fags who liked the game will say
as a reason for why it's hated. Which is completely false considering games like Cuphead and Sonic. The only thing that is consistently good is the music. Everything else was a complete shitfest. The humor is either lolsorandumb or soccer mom tier puns. The art style is trash and inconsistent. The gameplay hook is not an original idea like everyone thinks it is, and was poorly executed, leaving only 1 fun fight in the good route and giving only 2 real fights in the bad route. The characters are flat, retarded, and obnoxious. Contrary to what its most vehement defenders may say, there was a forced gay relationship which you have to kindle in order to get the good ending. The fanbase is indeed cancerous as well, but that's merely a single factor. Many people were probably annoyed that fags here were praising such a shitty game to begin with. The only things it has going for it are the music, a niche gameplay mechanic, and babby's first save editing fourth wall break.

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Oh yes, and I forgot the main appeal of the game. Some might call it "charm". It's super quirky XD

Proof?

tumblr.com/tagged/s.t.a.l.k.e.r.
tumblr.com/tagged/dwarf_fortress

That's one spicy claim you double nigger.
t. Goofygoober

You can find a tumblr for anything user.

But gamergate hasn't ended :^)

Wew lad.


That's not memespacing you niggerfaggot.

This is.


It has not even begun.

Well for one we have no evidence to support it. And like I said before the image was always posted along side another one that tried to assert better pixelart in a game by posting a still image from a pixel artist. It's not a ton of evidence sure but you should know we get plenty of false flagging faggots like that who are willing to make sure up for a few paragraphs while applying current year shit from the industry to make his "theories" sound more creditable. Basically it might be true. But it's probably not.

user is a fag making false claims, but I can't deny how much this bait seemingly worked.

google.com/search?safe=off&client=ms-android-americamovil-us&ei=0X1fWoSqKsqSjwOMmLSACw&q=zelda an rpg&oq=zelda an rpg&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0j0i22i30k1l4.1647.5007.0.5438.15.15.0.0.0.0.233.2679.0j12j3.15.0....0...1c.1j4.64.mobile-gws-serp..2.13.2434...41j0i22i10i30k1j0i131k1j0i131i67k1j0i67k1.0.x2V-LhKiVgc

Makes sense to me. Google even lists them as rpgs.

Also speaking of zelda, ocarina of time was dethroned as goat by undertale a few years ago in the gamefags rankings. Continue to hate something for the wrong reason fam. Tumblr has nothing to do with the game of undertale being good or bad.

I can't speak for everyone else so I'm not going to. But for me Undertale was a disappointment several times over. It started with the demo. Neat little RPG thing that combined bullet hell with turn-based combat and diplomacy. This was cool and wasn't something I had seen before. On top of that the interaction with flowey as well as his Interaction with you through the included instruction manual set up some cool ideas of a story that reached outside of itself to include the player. I eat this shit up with a knife and fork because until that point I hadn't realized how much it was (going to be) done. Finishing a route or trying something, then opening up the game's files to see how flowey reacted and edited things was pretty cool and led to multiple playthroughs of the demo. Fun was had and like other anons have said it led to comfy threads discussing the game and wanting to lewd toriel. Mostly the game though.

Then the kickstarter happened, it reached funding and I sort of forgot about it. Without any real word of things I just assumed it had gone into crowdfunding hell and I'd never see or hear of it again. I didn't know Radiation was a guy who worked on homestuck, so I didn't think to expect that Radiation would be hard at work giving the game cancer.

After the game came out, it's basically what said. The story and hooks from the demo said it was going for a pack of smokes and I never saw it again. Instead i got "Quirky" skeletons, a weeaboo lizard, a cool knight turned fish lesbian, a cuck, and theory-bait.

Undertale? More like Underwhelming.
I'm going to kill myself for that joke now.

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I'm not reading this thread. I think this game is incredibly mediocre, which is to be expected, given that it was made by a single person. That is fine, but that just goes to show that people are ready to shovel shit down their throats, so long as it can be justified by some irrational and subjective defense of shit eating. The music isn't spectacular, as many people claim. It's alright, I suppose, but if you think the music is on par with, say, Chrono Trigger's or DKC2's soundtrack, then you're in denial. The characters were not amusing to me in the slightest, although I can see why the autismos have latched onto them so fervently. The gameplay, both the "standard" and the "pacifist" styles, is quite dull. All of the monsters have a few basic patterns that are easily memorized and, once this is done, the game becomes quite repetitive and tedious to play as a result.
Yeah, well, at least there are other games that provide incentives to replay. In Final Fantasy V, there's the job system, in Fallout New Vegas, there are a number of quests that can be done in slightly different ways, and the various skills can alter how you play, which gives the player an opportunity to try different playstyles. Most games have some variety of enemies, and your interactions with them should keep the game fresh to some extent. The same can't be said about this game, it's virtually the exact same experience every single time you play. It wouldn't be so bad if the basic enemies, especially the bosses, had a larger pool of moves and abilities, but this would only slightly extend the game's playtime, because the game is quite small and doesn't fully utilize either of its primary combat mechanics. The "traditional" RPG combat boils down to a simplistic, "hit enemy with equipped weapon" interaction. There are no status ailments, no magic system, no special abilities, and no complex bosses or enemies that would use or defend against these things. On the other hand, the "pacifist combat" is virtually the same every time, as already mentioned. Once the player learns how to appeal to the monster's emotions without attacking them, this entire aspect of "combat" is omitted, and the player can simply spam the MERCY button in order to completely avoid combat with that enemy in the future.

I can't imagine why you'd want to come back and play this game again and again. I guess some people have latched onto the characters so strongly that they boot up the game just to "spend time" with them. It explains all of the autism that comes in the form of terrible fan art and fan projects, such as plays and conventions. To me, that is very sad. It's sad that a game can become popular just because it appeals to some faggot-furry-tumblr types and not its gameplay. But, what the fuck else is new? This is the world we live in.

Google also says this site doesn't exist. Jesus fuck off to reddit retard.
Oh you're baiting. Nevermind then.

It was made by a single person.
False.

Which is all the more proof that "tumblr likes it, therefore it's bad" doesn't have any merit.

That's not how the game works at all.

These threads are worse than Fullderp. How do you get worse than fullderp

That poll was openly and proudly just plain old rigged. The tumblrtale faggots were running a social media campaign to send everyone they could to go vote for underturd since the votes were open to unregistered users and didn't track IPs. They also proudly admitted to using bots and the faggot mods on the site thought the whole thing was funny.

MEMEGAME

Cuckchan organized the entire thing just to make themselves mad

What? Die.

Undertale was a good game, some of the most fun I've had in recent years. As far as tumblr or SJW content go's it was pretty tame and didn't affect my enjoyment of the game at all. I'm not sure why Holla Forums is so butthurt over it.

What I don't understand is how you can start off so strong but fuck up so badly so quickly. Was the ruin the only part he really had planned out? Most of the game just felt like filler after that until you get to the palace.

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Read the thread. There's a couple of good explanations.

Undertale is an MK ULtra program by the jews to make you gay

you know that was done to make faggots like you anally pained right?
why the fuck would you even care about a gayfags poll anyway? unless you go there in which case kill yourself

fucking flag

Even I the stuff I can agree with isn't a reason for such asspain over the game really.

there were.

They were told to hate the game, and they obeyed without thinking about why. They were given "reasons" that amounted to nothing more than talking points, and they parroted them without thinking about why. They were made to believe that only "bad people" like the game, and that they can firmly place themselves (anonymously?) in the "good people" category by disliking it, and they did so without thinking about why.

This place isn't for discussing games 90% of the time. It's a hugbox for people with similar taste in games to delude themselves and each other into believing they're not actually worthless subhuman garbage.

Same

What was the deal with Undertail threads and Genesis, anyway?

No real reason.

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I played the game. It's shit. Fuck off.

see how that isn't an argument as to why games are bad?
You need to fuck off.

The person I replied to didn't have an argument either dipshit. The game's shit because the gameplay is a dumbed down bullet hell cancerous zit full of shit and is full of tedious dialog "scenes" that aren't funny or engaging. Why don't you make an argument FOR the fucking game before you asset that I'm wrong.

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retardation
Read
it's a turn based RPG with bullet hell dodge mechanics, that's actually one of the most unique things about the game, and it gives every enemy its own unique personality
you can skip through the dialogue
humor is hard to view objectively; if it makes you laugh it's good, if it doesn't it doesn't, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it was bad writing. I think all of the writing in the game has a good balance of tone to it.
I don't know what else you expect from dialogue in terms of engagement; most games don't have any player action taken during points where people are speaking. Unless you mean you didn't actually care about what they were talking about or what they said to you, because at that point you were probably trying to hate the game, and going in with a biased opinion on something will always lead to a biased outcome. I can imagine you weren't here for the goat threads or the gaster-spook threads, so you didn't really have as deep a connection with the game as the rest of us, newfag.

I take it you've never played VN's that do this then? k. Even so the turn base feature is just the gams method of forcing reddit tier dialog.
The sans hang out scene and the lesbo animescene beg to differ.
To people who watch Adam Sandler flicks maybe. Objectively the writing in Undertale is bad. It's inconsistant and full of references that aren't funny. "anime being real" being one of it's high points.
Weight and context maybe? The actual assumption that the dialog will actually make an impact on my character/playthough? It's not hard dipshit. If you're going to make a game for a story have them mesh well.
Most games don't focus on story period because story in vidya is essentially a bonus that's often useless. If your game focuses on story over interaction it's already fucking dead in the water.

WEW LADDY
TOP FUCKING WEW


Please do.

Basically the threads went to shit after 2 weeks at the most and that's being generous. The threads were mainly in focus to everybody playing and discussing the story and the "mystery" of gastor which turned out to be a red herring. The threads started out by playing the game and when that was spent it moved on to datamining and finding secrets. Throughout the entire game there seems to be a lot going on "behind the scenes". As it turned out there was nothing there other than more red herrings.

Honestly there's really no much to say outside what I just mentioned though. There was a lot of people making OC which turned out to be primarily made by a (self admitted) crossposting redditor and when OC dried up because people realize the game was nothing special it devolved into waifu faggotry which is why Mark actually did his job for once and banned the threads because they no longer discussed the game. There was some shitposting going around with people calling the game the new FN@F which was partially true but not really on the mark. The game instead turned into a platform for SJW's and the rest is history. The game at least doesn't shove that in your face (except when it occasionally does) and even looking past that it's just not an enjoyable experience. I played and beat it 3 times trying to find the entertainment and couldn't. I will say it has good pacing and a decent premise. It's just delivered fucking terribly and on top of bad gameplay.

There was a lot of problems with the undertale threads but I don't remember no redditor.

The same guy who made all the webms with poorly cropped faces over other shit. Pretty sure he did webm related.

There were like 3 people doing that shit, I forgot about Rex, though.

I know for certain it was the guy who remade the Bane scene. I don't remember what his name was.

This guy?
hooktube.com/watch?v=atYKV0ad34U
I don't remember him going to reddit, but he definitely seemed like he cared about the fandom like a fag even though it obviously was trash at that point

Yea. I mean I never capped the comment but I'm obviously not making it up. I don't remember if he linked it to us or somebody found the account and people didn't really care but he was certainly posting on reddit. This was also in earlier times of the site so reddit was only really annoying instead of downright reason for being lynched by everybody in the thread.

He couldn't webm it and posted it on his channel is what ousted him I think. I don't remember any full on redditors other than that one guy who admitted to going there and got bullied off.

sorry I'm not trash
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You're being way too unspecific and this kind of shotgun blast review is something I'd expect of a person who hasn't played the game; people who have unspecific gripes with a game usually are the ones who haven't experienced it and therefore are just drawing conclusions from the accounts of other people.
you're right, silent hill 1 and 2 would have been just as good if you remove any of the context and story from the games
Oh wait no that's fucking wrong you cretin. Didn't you also just gripe that there was no context also? Which is it, does a game need more context for you to care or is it fine having no context? You're refuting yourself here.
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It's simple, but simple stories aren't awful; the more convoluted you get with a story, the easier it is to fuck up if you're taking it completely seriously, which is why metal gear solid has a long standing loving fanbase and asscred has no interest from anyone when it comes to plot.
I guess you're right, the fact that you weren't satisfied overwrites the fun that I had, you win this round, kike.
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it wasn't though, the threads were fueled by the enjoyment of the collective; we had fun, we posted about it, and then we had more fun. If I wasn't having fun in the first place I wouldn't have played the game.
yes, and? Does the number of endings constitute a good story? Most good games have only one ending, and it's just an end of the story thing; the game is the experience, the journey you take along the route to the end. If you play the game for the ending you're going to miss things along the road.
how does the end of a game ever serve the gameplay? When ever do you get to the end of a game and then there's tons of extra things to do? Free-roaming games, maybe, but not the classical RPG
you understand what perspective is, right? I have a feeling your mind is just too narrow.
You're sounding really dumb, mister user
in what game do you not push buttons to dictate the ending, you retard?
Oh, sorry, I guess the game doesn't have the brain-wave sensor feature, you only get controller support and that's still buttons, sorry.
I guess when you say the genre something is from and call it generic that makes it sound bad, unless you've played the game and you know that different enemy combinations lead to different attack wave patterns
I'm sure you're the be-all-end-all source on what good games are.

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Undertail is good because it's good, your argument has been countered
I don't believe you faggot
Again, I don't know what else you would want; in most games killing or not killing doesn't affect anything in the first place besides in a game like dark souls where you lock out of quests or shops. In a bethesda game you can kill people important to the story randomly and won't be notified until you're at their part of the game
You have A game, yes, but without any context for your actions, neither of those games have as big of an impact; if it was done in the style of Mario where everything is bright and colorful and all the characters speak in gibberish like banjo and the music is really upbeat then you lose the experience of the game.
really scraping the bottom of the barrel for these insults, huh, faggot?
wait, so which is it, you fucking mongoloid? You can't say that story is only additive and then say that story subtracts from the game; is it a bonus or is it something that actually matters? You sound like you have your own opinions and you're also spouting the "story doesn't matter" groupthink that is constantly disproved
you're just sitting in your own shit flinging it at other people and saying the game isn't good because you didn't think it was good without any further objective thought going into it. At the end of the day I had fun and you're complaining about the possibility of discussing having fun in a video game on the video game board. Go the fuck back to reddit or tumblr if this game triggered you, cuntnugget.

I know the one who turned out to be a redditor kicked off the sprite overlay trend whose last work was posting the same scene from dancing in the rain but with different music dubbed over it, but as far as I know he only had one copycat who still had better taste than him from using a scene from the Haggar ballad. Speaking of OC, the only other thing to come to mind was another guy who was apparently discovering himself sexually through shitty and awkward music that was self described as "shitty remixes" and has a legacy thread on one of the undertale boards here. I know there was a guy kept posting his fanfiction during the time after OC stopped getting made but before the threads were bumplocked on sight, but other than the thread I mentioned the only legacy of Undertale on Holla Forums is that a goatposter joined the 4am crew, and even then I don't know if they still post there.

I never used reddit. You're thinking of someone else. My shit got posted on 4cuck and I posted my shit on youtube because they were posting my shit on youtube saying "I got this shit from Holla Forums lol" and I didn't want cuckchan and tumblr coming here

More like named specific examples you're still ignoring. Keep deflecting faggot.
You don't have to. I brought up enough examples from the game, Either way the proof is still evident.
So basically remove the npcs that you meet in towns? And even then there is no dialog in that context because you just can't speak with them. And even if you could they rarely if ever say anything important.
So then it doesn't matter what you do. Way to defeat your own argument there.
More like 2 boss battles retaliate and the music changes with no NPC
Here yo go again comparing Undertale to "most games". It's just a bullet hell game with dialog tacked on. The actual "choices" you make only affects the actual gameplay in a minor way by unlocking the garbage timing attack minigame.
Of which the game provides very obscurely and poorly
It doesn't matter what it leaves. The game element is still more important. Without the story in Silent hill the game would still be a survival horror game full of puzzles. And AGAIN the difference is that Undertale has a worse story by far.

Well I saved pretty much everything worth saving from the first month or so of the threads. If there's specific OC you have in mind I can check my folders. I purged a lot of shit recently though so I may be wrong here.