Is Gamergate spooked?

Holla Forums + feminism = waste of everyone's time. Neither side has anything important to say, but both sides are capable of creating huge support for their nothing opinions. They also both turn figures on their side into holy heroes of infallibility. Fucking milo and spergon of akkad vs tropes vs women thief and zoe "5 guys" pigfingers quinn. These people are pure garbage and both sides went full "DINDU NUFFIN".

Your ignorance is astounding.

it's all about nerds caring too much about vidya.

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Idpol and class collaborationism, no wonder a bunch of them ended up fash

fuck off pol, it's over.

xd

Daily reminder that this site was first popularized because of Gamergate, and that this thread is solid, actual proof that Holla Forums cucks are not from here but rather imports from reddit or tumblr, and that HW is spinning in his grave because of this shit board.

gamergaters are worse than genocidal pedo slaveholders.
stop pretending anyone on any side of the discussion ever gave a fuck about this crap

No-one is 'from' here retard, this was just a treefort for butthurt twitter fags to regroup and have conservatard propagandists tell them who the next doxxing/harassment target is. Gamergate happened 3 fucking years ago and the industry is still just as corrupt, get over it.

you mean when everyone left halfchan because mods didn't do anything against the spam of shit threads like gamergate and other anti-sjw-idpol-bs?

And the halfchan immigrants weren't "from here" you dumb cuck

Haha, wow, thanks for phenomenology proving my point, far better than I could've myself. And for being so asshurt, too.

That's definitely in the minority m8, the vast majority of people who left were people who believed m00t had sold out and tried to declaw the site for sale.

He says, while forgetting that the Holla Forumsacks from 4chan fled the site when they had to deal with faggots like you, and were all gradually replaced by fleeing redditors from /r/coontown and friends. Pics related and sage negated.

I think it was the companies and vidya "journalists" that accused gamergate of being sexist homophobes.

it's crazy how right you are. like seriously, every fucking day on the internet now is like an unstable stock exchange, both sides buying and selling emotionally wrapped facts in order to crush political opponents via toneless, 2D internet yell-space. every fucking day there's some new development, some new scam or scandal that either side uses to strengthen their own side's cause or diminish and discredit the other's. I'm honestly beginning to think that the internet is ruining humanity, but I just can't stop using it. the drama is too good. oh, and the porn. can't give up the porn either

The fact they go out of their way to ignore all the actually important problems in gaming just to focus on some people disagreeing with them politically shows exactly what this movement always has been.
A misguided attack on the symptom of a problem they contribute to.
Know what you could have gone after instead? Consoles.

damn kids need to get outside once in a while! turn off your dreamcasts and roll a hoop down the street with a stick!

youtu.be/2ub4wS_tjY4?t=275

idk why this is so funny but it is

You weren't actually there, were you.

I don't visit Holla Forums you inept moron. I do, however, visit Holla Forums's twitter, which retweets multiple pro-trump links. How does it feel to be getting cucked so hard? The twitter account of the site you're on hates you, and that's fucking hilarious.

the government shills who pushed this bs were everywhere, it is impossible to not have been "there".

I barely followed it but I cared enough about what I perceived as mods being dicks to people trying to do something harmless to come to Holla Forums.
They do ignore the real problems. Publishers and all the cancer they cause are not the concerns of gamergate, "m-muh games reviews and award shows!!" is their concern.

true, the gg shills were just one of the symptoms of his sale, i just wanted to trigger the shitposter who claimed gg had anything to do with Holla Forums other than that it ruined lots of Holla Forums boards.

there's a language used here that is totally beyond me

Hotwheels is against MODERATION, not "idpol", you fucking joke. This place has just as strict moderation as Holla Forums, if not worse. Therefor HW would be against your terrible board as well.

Seriously if you read those as "hotwheels hates idpol", and took the time to save them as such, you're fucking retarded beyond belief.

No, I mean the very start. When madmins and badmins decided to turn a gossip thread about Zoey Quinn into a comment graveyard.

Honestly we should be stricter in banning off-topic spam. How can anyone care about off-topic spam being banned? Which is all a right wing opinion can amount to on this board.

Show me when gamergate attacked DLC practices without any right-wing idpol infused agenda attached though.

indeed but next time remember to sage the off-topic Holla Forums spam threads.

You are literally saying "ban all dissenting opinions". And yet even after it happens, you'll still consider the mods of Holla Forums to be worse than this place's mods, because you're a stupid child that came here from reddit or tumblr after 2014.

This is such bullshit. First of all they did, and have before with past scandals. The thing that propelled GG to a critical mass never seen before is the mass censorship that went on in game enthusiast communities when people tried to discuss it.

those pictures are just top shit posting right there

I loved this when it happened.

Considering this is a leftist board, I am not.
Would banning sports threads on Holla Forums be censorship or keeping the board on topic? Would banning gay porn threads on /tg/ be censorship or keeping the board on topic?
This is a board about leftist politics. Coming in here trying to shill some completely unrelated conspiracy is not only off-topic but it bumps on-topic threads off the catalog. I don't care if BO says we're open for debate that only makes us open for astroturfing.

I came here from 4chan Holla Forums because muh five guys and have posted on 8/pol/ when it was at least 50% lolbert.

I've never seen that before, but it's pretty spot on. and funny. it's not porn, but I enjoyed it. see? can't leave the internet behind

I came here from years on halfchan and other image boards after the censorship on Holla Forums and I had a significant hand in initial GG operations including helping write and edit that big summary of past game journalism indiscretions. Although I wanted GG to go a lot further such as finally getting people to grow a fucking spine against anti-consumer practices like DRM as a whole, I am content with the renewed discussion on journalistic integrity and tools like deepfreeze. Holla Forums is still easily my favorite thing to come out of gamergate. Not all of us here are ignorant redditors.

There's no point, user. He's only going to embarrassingly sperg the fuck out about "muh pure Holla Forums but im not from there honest!!!", despite the fact of it having over four times the bans of any other board, even though it isn't four times bigger than the other majors.

Except your renewed discussion (which has devolved into bitching about sjws if Holla Forums is any indication) has distracted from the larger issues of consoles, publishers, drm, dlc, and intellectual property, all of which seem to have been put on the sideline or just forgotten by many people.

There was a period where publishers were a big part of the discussion.

t. never opened the Catalog.
Mods are overly harsh on race-"realists", that's about it.
The odds of the first thread when I open Holla Forums being about leftist discussion or Holla Forums, /liberty/, and Holla Forums bait is near 50% percent.
Not accounting for the dozens of 2 line sliders which happen at least once a week.
Anyone who believes thread creation is overmoderated has never lurked here.

I remember seeing discussion of publisher jewry and DRM on HERE and a few minor sites, but none on leddit. More proof that ledditors poison everything they touch?

Should have always been the biggest part if you wanted to actually do anything.

You can spot a child that's been on imageboards for less than a month when they post some bullshit about how they've been here since 2004 and did all this stupid shit.

I just want reddit to leave.

Bet I've been around here longer than you smartpants :3

It's alright man, we know you where you came here from, and there's no shame in it :^)

Keep obsessing over indie devs you publisher sucking, drm loving, idpol infested hydronigger.

What did he mean by this?

gamejournpros and its ilk are something people need to be spooked about

Faggot.

Just replace astroturfing to "shilling", make a separate thread attributing it to a Holla Forums vol or user, and watch you children circlejerk over how ebil and spooky :🍀🍀🍀 the Holla Forums moderation is for over 300 posts. You realize you're stupid, right?

100% of the users that came here from the exodus would think this comment is gay, and that the person that posted it should fuck off. Including HW. This site is already suffering the same fate as halfchan, as hordes of people like you are coming in thinking they've found a new welcoming home that wants them here.

tbh being part of gamergate since day one means you're a 2014 cancer kiddie who still lurked on halfchan long after it was taken over by feds.

i wish i could kill you irl you are such a terrible person why do you even shitpost like that?
people who try to discourage the correct use of sage should be permabanned.

leftypol mods are not asleep they are just fucking assholes. why is this thread still there when at the same time random comments nobody cares about get painstakingly hand-selected and removed?

Aha, found the link I was looking for:

thisisvideogames.com/gamergatewiki/A Review Of Game Journalism _ GamerGate Wiki.html#c_2_3

ur not fooling a sole bruh

You can't make this shit up.

I came here from the exodus. The one before your faggot Holla Forums exodus that killed 8/pol/ and 8/v/.

Let's be honest fam, 8/v/ was dead on arrival. A megalomaniacal newfag with the same attitude as Moot towards Holla Forums shit won the lottery and managed to squat Holla Forums before anyone else.

Oh and spicywheels always advocated making your own alternative board, not trying to colonize the ones you dislike.

I had fun though.

Oh shit, I'm talking to one of those tumblr imports that gets unironically, actually mad when someone says "nigger" or tells you your taste is shit.

Gamergate was such a walking contradiction for me.

What ignored me the most is the
Argument

Don't these people realize that not everyone has the resources and time to make games?

Go figure somebody not from Holla Forums wouldn't really care enough to read 50 threads about how it's so triggering that [x] game has a black character.

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I'd say we're 15% oldfags 15% redditors 20% Holla Forums and other Holla Forums converts 20% Holla Forums spammers and 20% from other places.

this is gonna last all night isn't it?

Cunt.

Holla Forums was founded on free speech, it's not your secret club.
I doubt you would even be here if it wasn't for Jimbo's clutter in the frontpage.

not really at least in the beginning, it was a legit claim for less corrupted journalism

it was only in it's late stages that got coopted by poltards who kept screaming "muh kultural marxisum"

I think it's more a case of the vidya people got tired and went back to vidya while the Holla Forumstards stuck around to fight their eternal war.

Even the games they supported like bayonetta have feminist themes(Main female Heroine has to constantly save by incompetent beta makes and main villain is a white guy). If kamiya said that he was a feminist then Bayo 2 would've tanked.

Gamergate was never about Zoe Quinn. People were paying attention when that happened, but GG started shortly after, when the gaming press made a bunch of articles shitting on gamers.

Yes.

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What's hilarious is how GG tried to pin the Wall Street Journal for being SJWs yet don't realize that they're bankrolled by the same guy who owns Fox news lol

God damn, user, why?

I'm frankly astonished this sicko is still tweeting.

Can you disprove her statements? the alt-right was much more vile before trump. Doxing is the first thing that comes to mind regarding GG.

He's a lying sack of shit who's been kicking the hornets nest since the beginning.

Not as spooked as the Tumblr/Reddit invaders who've been shitting up this site. That goes for both Holla Forums and Holla Forums.

A lying sack of shit who likely has fucked kids in the family, and ran a child porn community.

Hadn't heard of that one. Are you thinking of a different e-celeb?

A moot point. We were trampled on by sociopaths in media who accused us of doing all the horrible shit that they do. We were right all along, we have been wronged, and I don't feel like rolling over for gregarious hipsters with cluster B disorder.

Who gives a fuck about Holla Forums or video games

what is the correct usage of sage then? serious tino

Pissing people off.

Being polite by not bumping a thread with your offtopic reply to it, or so you can reply to a bad thread without bumping it.

Videogames have far more cultural and artistic importance than modern feminism. Sorry.

Games journalist and publishers were right to roll over gamers. You think the company that makes Fleshlights respects their buying market? No. But they are happy to make some money off lonely young men with an embarrassing hobby. The same applies to the videogame industry.

(you)

untrue for most of Holla Forums
So we made our board and are pretty fucking comfy here.
???
The site is about giving speech to people who don't have it elsewhere, not about being an unmoderated mess, for that we have freech, or /politics/, /new/… Holla Forums isn't by any means a torture chamber and I'd wager Holla Forums has the highest percentage of immigrants from other boards than any other on Holla Forums, a sixth of Holla Forums's catalog is about us, Holla Forums is obsessed with Alunya, etc…
I wish tbh, vols are lazy as fuck, I'd ban more spammers than the rest of the staff combined.
Considering how much time I spend on this board I probably deserve it too.

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Would you say this about dildo companies and women? Masturbation isn't even a hobby you reactionary retard, and there's nothing embarrassing about playing video games.

Aw, I'm just trolling.

This isn't a comment on the artistic heights of videogames so much as the abyssal depths of modern feminism.

youtube.com/watch?v=OzsGmdmhDTI

nod an argubend

Funny thing is that Holla Forums is more leftist and unspooked itself than leftypol. Their users also have the best chance of getting a submissive Japanese gf out of any other board.

Bayonetta is not a "feminist" game. If you ask him about feminism he says it has absolutely nothing to do with video games. Bayonetta is just a classic action game character that happens to be a female instead of a male. The only Japanese developer that I know that has a remotely feminist agenda is the guy that created Resident Evil . Who's said he didn't like the way women were portrayed in video games. No one noticed or cared because he never called the audience for his games women haters. The women were still bombshells and they never beat you over the head with any kind of ideology. The same reason why everyone likes Blizzard games. Compare it to something made by modern Bioware and it's night and day.

This is true in many ways. If Holla Forums suddenly became leftist, all the Reddit immigrants would be driven off of Holla Forums literally overnight. Holla Forums would collapse into infighting and lose 2000+ users, the tankies and feminists would be driven off of Holla Forums, and when all the dust settled, Holla Forums would actually be fun again.

If Gamergater's and SJW's just kissed and made up they could end all their pent up sexual problems and their virginities

If I wanted to see pathetic people larping as communists I don't have to look at liberal feminists I could just come here

b-but gamergate was good! at the start! for like a few days before Holla Forums took over! Holla Forums dindu nothin! if you disagree you're a feminazi from leddit!

post ankles hoochie

I have a few problems with GG.
1. People let it be too much about burger and fries, she's a slut with a shit game but she and the event that lead to the multiple "Gamers are dead" articles should only have been seen as the straw that broke the camels back.
2.Should have made it more about Journo's in general then about gaming ones, the regular journalists are just as fucking shit and events like the one's recently with pewdiepie where him making a passive nazi joke a month before being overly blown up.
3. Needed to be more violent tbh, if people were making shit up about them being angry and violent in discussion, they might as well have been because that's what cunts are changing history to have been the case, probobly could have got more done.

Besides the usual idpol of shitting on women it had the added flavor of "gamer idpol".

And when someone made a game that didn't cater to them they complained endlessly too.

1. That's how it was for most people but the media put in a lot of work to make it about muh wimminz and some of GG fell for the bait.
2. That's true, but unfortunately Holla Forums conquered GG well before the 2016 election, which had plenty of material for that.
3. I don't see how violence would have helped anything, and for sure it would have driven more people away.

Wasn't there an FBI or CIA report on Gamergate's death threats?

The problem is that GG was always playing defensive. The media would constantly give Quinn, and then Anita, and then that lunatic Briannu Wu a platform to spread lies about them with very few exceptions ever hearing from the other side of the story. People tried to keep it focused on being about journalists but it was a losing battle. If nothing else I do think the shit during gamergate helped a lot of people became receptive to corporate media lies when the Bernie Sanders smears eventually came around.

Letting retards like Milo Yiannopoulos on Airplay instead of William Usher or Oliver Campbell didn't help either.

Gamergate was a fucking joke from the beginning, stop fucking deluding yourself or trying to shift the blame on Holla Forums when Holla Forums gets called proto-Holla Forums for a reason, even on 4chan.

They weren't mad about politics, they were mad about politics they didn't agree with.

*become receptive to the general concept of corporate media plies when the Bernie Sanders smears came around

When did that ever happen? They complained when games that were targeting them got changed to be more diverse or PC or whatever, like says.

There's a difference between weaving politics into the story of a game and taking a game that already exists and forcing in politics that don't mesh with what's already there.
…that's probably got something to do with the amount of backlash identitarians have been getting, yeah?
This just seems like an exaggeration of "stop putting resources into political correctness instead of making the game good."

If Bayo is feminist then why was the consensus of gamer feminists that she was a sexist fuck doll?

retards still pushing for gg reminds me of "here's how bernie could still win"

Literally any indie game.

Shit was a psyop to steal votes from Jill Stein.

Revisionism at its finest. This board Gert's owrse Everytime I come here.

Nobody cares about retarded reactionary e-activism.

*Gets worse. Damn autocorrect.

nice.
it's probably both initiated by the same parts of the establishment, too.
distracting us with idpol while they wage wars.

Obviously you do. You're in a thread about it. O bet you believe in women hating Bernie Bros and Russian Boogeyman around every corner too.

What part of that is different from Holla Forums complaining about indie games like they always do?

You can't make this shit up.

Uh guys because of GG Anita Sarkesian didnn't jut gain money he gained political power and appeared in front of the UN to try to push for fascist liberal garbage.

Good post, totally deserved to bump this shitty thread we have every week.

It was on the first page fucktard.

idpol/10

I want Alunya to unspook Viv so hard she forgets her own name

I actually agree with Tankie.

Yes, the FBI rleasd FOIA files and it amounted to nothing. Anita's Utah threat was borderline copypasta, and some of Wu's threats came from her associates.

The Utah one was filled with chan jokes, the other ones seemed legit deranged.

I was actually browsing Holla Forums when the shitstorm first started, and yes, most people only cared about it because of virgin bitterness. It doesn't invalidate any of the stated claims about it, but it's still true.

I remember those threads, cancer from start to finish.

Nah.

Solid counter argument.

people still care about this stupid bullshit?

As solid as the claim. I was there when shit first went down too but my memory is a little different. I wonder who's right?

I'm not overly emotionally invested in video games so I'm pretty confident in my own recollection.

Not much. KiA and 8/v/ are the last hold outs, and they are both bleeding users. The only e-clebs to almost make it to the mainstream were Milo and Zoe, and well. . . .

I'm going to go out on a limb and say neither of us care enough to go looking at the archives.

Well, the FBI discarded virtually all of them, and there was even a prosecution attorney in Ohio who specifically said she was wasting their money and manpower.

Tho to be fair, there still are investigations surrounding GG going on, so not all files were release. It is still possible that GG may turn out to be guilty of something, but so far, it's clean as a whistle.

I imagine they took the swatings seriously since that puts LE at risk.

To the best of my knowledge, there were 3 swattings of anti-GG clowns, and I can tell you for a fact that 2 of them were /baph/'s doing. The third one I haven't looked into.

GG always had the moral high ground, which is one of the reasons it pisses me off to see people here dismissing it without a second thought.

"Spooked" insofar as it saw video game journalism and development independent of the capitalist mode of production and its innate tendency to, in and of itself, divide and conquer its market into target demographics and attempt to work off of what appear to be the most appealing creative subjects. It opposed games journalism on the basis of catering to specific, rising trends, but not in the context of how these trends fit the prevailing ideology, but how these rising trends had an innate badness to them. Conversely, it enacted a consumer rights-style counter-offense to what it perceived as innately bad choices made by innately bad people because badness, starting a downwards spiral of their circlejerk versus the other.

And inevitably, these trends are composed of identity politics because that is what generated target demographics are, and the circlejerks end up mirroring the opposite target demographics they're machnically interpellated to prefer.

The only winner in this was capital, and the ones who found a new market within this new market: Sarkeesian and co. on one side and Thunderf00t and co. the other, but nobody truly "wins" in the game of legbeards versus neckbeards, only capitalism does, for it gains the fuel it needs to chug along another day.

leftypol is the only reason I go to this shithole of a site.

Question:
1) Why is it that commercial games are less cancerous than indieshit and the open source community?
2) Why did indieshit happen, and the old shareware/bedroom coder ethic decline?

By what standard are you claiming that commercial games are less cancerous?

And the old coder ethic died when the game industry became more commercialized.

nah, it was a bit overboard n useless but it was ok

1) It was about the journo that fucked her, not Zoe who distracted from it.

2) That happened. But the journos banded together to distract from publishers and their failings.

3) No, it didn't. It should have moved to make devs more of the issue and how they could work together to make it better for devs and gamers.

The problem came up that gamers are fickle, the devs didn't go anywhere and we're back in the same shitstorm drain but even less to really show for it.

Same.

I miss old GamerGate… Back when it was a consumer revolt, rather than just another vehicle for the Aut-Right.

Outside of the subjectivity that is enjoyment of games, I will interpret your indieshit versus OS opposition as one of authenticity, not quality or tumor levels.

First, realize that "indieshit" is itself an entirely commercial category. Quite deceptively, it's a category even more liberal ideology-ridden and thus even more commercial.

Indie companies are almost all startups: they embrace the maxim of liberalism's "self-made entrepreneur" principle; that of reducing all responsibility under a mode of production producing for market exchange (a hyper-social sphere) to the individual.

You're way more likely to find the impotent post-modern system of authority in an indie company and in much higher dosages than "traditional" video game companies (the ones you call commercial). Indie startups where the strict lines between investor and producer are blurred, where the producer's work is consequently seen as his egotistical little oeuvre he will introduce to the world than in a firm where the authority relations are still strict and clear. Here, the producer is producing with the strict consequence in mind that if his product fails, he also fails directly to conduce the order of authority. This is why "older" games were so authentic: it was a very organized, collectively-built piece of work that, despite robbing the actual producers of the value of their work, put them ot the task of really making something for the texture of the institutional authority of their workplace.

OS, being entirely non-profit or based on the principle of donation-principled sharing of the source code and game for all, took over these qualities of "traditional" enterprise: rigid devotion to the quality of the product with as institutional texture of authority the consumers of the product themselves, in a direct relation. Open source gaming is in principle thus entirely communistic: things are produced because it is fulfilling to do so and at the strict reimbursement of basic needs, not to meet the autistic needs of a neurotic who unconsciously just answers to the market's law of value. From each according to their ability, to each according to their need(s).

Liberal ideology developed to neoliberalism, reintroducing the classical liberal ideology I outlined before that was in hibernation/in Keynesian mutating form. This was not a conscious choice by anyone: capitalism is a shit system that needs to maintain a compound growth of roughly 3% to stay healthy, and so policies that slashed the common good such as the welfare state (which once provided capitalism its life support) were no longer viable and have been shrinked. Consequently, the credit economy was heavily shilled for by bourgeois states and private enterprise, and we accelerated to our current late capitalist ideology.

Seriously?

You couldn't just tell them that the group of journos was too up the publisher's ass to vilify gamers while developers were too ignorant of their own power to rally gamers and form a new journo group to advertise to?

Geez, that's long and drawn out when the answers of AAA vs indie are far shorter…

GamerGate was never good.

It was always going to end up that way. The moment far-right pundits starting stroking gator ego was the moment GG's fate was sealed.

This is merely (one of!) the consequence(s) of the basic constitutional shift in material conditions I outlined as being driven through capitalism's need to once again liberalize even harder. Saying journos just found themselves in this condition without outlining the cause and enabler of and conductor to these motives is to ignore the material basis of their change in action. Where were these parasites before? Was it just not [current year] enough for them to come out of the woodwork, or is it the fact that the material conditions changed themselves to find themselves as such for [current year]? Where were the Brianna Wus, Ian Cheongs, MovieBlobs, etc. before? In hiding?

The problem isn't that rightards latched on. That was an inevitability because the American """""left""""" positioned itself en masse against GG for the sake of protecting sociopaths who belonged to the same tribe as them. Then they pointed at the rightards in GG and shamelessly said "see how they've full of rightwingers". Yeah, like reactionaries reacting is some sort of fucking revelation. The fault for rightards infesting GG lies exclusively with SJWs, and anyone who hates GG because of said rightards has played straight into SJWs hands.

The devs didn't want to get publicly tied to Gamergate. The media did a pretty good smear campaign against GG, stating they were a bunch of racist, woman hater trolls, a libel which turned out to be true.

you really think hive mind mentality really has a brain like that irl? isn't it more likely that reflexive reaction is just chaos?

this, more or less

Very few leftists even came in to influence the boards/subreddits that were involved. It was basically open to Holla Forums memes and facts. A lot of Holla Forums left when GG did the whole pointless email things but enough stayed to just keep posting news/articles that push people towards our side. Milo was much loved by the more moderate and centrist ggers. You can see this on /r/kotakuinaction. How do you think they reacted when the media operated as one to smear him? That's why I was saying it was a bad move by the libs. Only pushed more moderates who hate idpol into accepting maybe a different kind of idpol or if that's too far then civic nationalism.

tl;dr you fucking lefties are so god damn lazy I love it

GG made me discover leftypol, and thus led to me becoming farther left.

It's doesn't require a centralized mind in order to act cohesively. Perfect example: class interest and collusion. They lead porkies to act in concert to some degree, whether or not they actually met and agreed to it. It's not chaos, but it's not a hivemind either.

okay and???

liberals planted the seed for an anti-idpol left with GG, just as much as it pushed people into the idpol right.

lol that''s cute dude

leftypol is the only board that's actually grown on 8ch, eventually, we'll be the only one's left to claim GG's anti-idpol legacy.

Filmschool dropouts pretending to be gamedevs, artistic integrity utterly compromised on the altar of virtue-signalling, personnel overlap with the SJW hivemind beyond HR/PR positions, etc. And that includes the open source community, which makes up for any lack of SJW-ness with a level of submissive masochism unmatched anywhere else.

None of those things are anywhere near as bad in the commercial industry, at least not yet.

I dunno, a lot of them run on donations, tax/NGO dollars, perpetually hopping along a string of politely covered-up commercial failures to the next on nepotistic/bamboozled investors, or are just rich dilettanti who Do It For Free. The closest thing to a currency they're all accumulating is social capital, rather than money.

GG isn't what brought me into contact with genuine leftists in a mad world gone SJW (that was the Slymepit, which appeared in response to Atheism+), but it IS what introduced me to many, MANY more of them.

Thank you Gamergate, thank you Holla Forums, thank you Berniecrats. Keep fighting and keep growing, maybe we can disinter leftism from the cold SJW grave it's been buried under this last decade.

True, but SJWs as a group aren't a conspiracy theory, they're a conspiracy fact. Gamers Are Dead, anyone?

GG had no direct left-wing persuasion, unless left-wing is conceived in a retarded way: it was a consumer movement (porky pls listen to me!) that rapidly deteriorated into le enlightened fedora-tipping atheist-MRA bullshit, which while well-intenioned a lot of the time (men's rights is important, religion is indeed a cancer) took a conservative form against the left-liberals it stood against. You are right thus far.

However GG opened up the space for a bunch of retarded gamers to actually think, and it led many to the relative original left-wing spirit of image boards (left-nihilist polemics with Chanology, Free Jeremy-type figures, etc.) and its gaming origins that were very much open source and authentically anti-consumerist. This is what a lot of Holla Forums fed off of, and what the insufferable Yugofag underwent.

And he is here right. Holla Forums grew massively with Sanders, and analogous developments in American political life outside of video game hobbyism (it's no wonder right wingers are so much more predominantly NEET gamers than leftists, who actually go outside when they sperg outside at least) developed in the "progressive" wing of the New Left which grew tired of Democrat-wedded liberalism and wanted a much more social, emancipatory left-liberalism in it. Bernie grew a base of support as large as Trump's as a fucking senator from a small state, while Trump rode majority on his personality status and barely became much more popular than Bernie. This is because Bernie represents the ideological shift leftwards, towards a radical social democracy, with people tired of idpol on both sides, and damn did he win a variety of backgrounds form it, from the bumfuck farmers in Vermont and then elsewhere to students and everyday service workers.

Underrated post.

open source gaming basically doesn't exist though

mostly
wesnoth.org/

This pretty much. Leftists who tongue liberal anus have only themselves to blame. They circled the wagons around a bunch of corrupt rich assholes and their stenographers, because of idpol. And this includes much of the Jacobin crowd.

On the bright side, I think that the Democrat primary broke leftists out of their relationship with liberal idpolers. Trump's election has been a wakeup call that you have to acknowledge corruption and give a left alternative, rather than try to hide it.

Not as games, for the most part, but the open source community produces a lot of libraries, APIs, and toolchains specifically for commercial gamedevs.

moar
>>>/lv/

Color me surprised.

Check this shit out tho: sauerbraten.org and youtube.com/user/play0ad.

Nice.

Look, I occasionally play a game of Xonotic on my Linux installation, but I'm just saying open source gaming is nearly nonexistent.

We could make open source games "profitable" if there was a better donation infrastructure.

FREE games aren't rare, not by a longshot. Even if you don't include old commercial games that've been officially given up to public domain, there have always been mountains of freeware games.

What's specifically lacking is gamedev inside the "open source"/"libre"/GNU/whatever community. I think this is linked to a general lack of interest toward creativity of any kind, as every piece of open source software seems to be either a clone of a commercial project, or a commercial project that has turned into an open source one under the wing of some big sponsor.

It wasn't. The problem of a corporate media having control over an industry is still an issue. The main way to fight back would have been to begin to organize and alleviate the control of those groups. The problem is the right was far more organized on it.

It's just that there wasn't a left wing group that could explain the gaming industry besides what the right wing was saying.

Geezus, you need to work on your materialism…

The journos can be established as being more in line with publishers and a corrupt relationship occurs whereby they got swag while promoting the games of the publishers. The indies tried to utilize a similar relationship but it didn't work out quite as well.

Reason being, they don't have the lawyers and PR specialists to hold their spaghetti around.

Now if you want me to get into a back story about how journos became liberal shit tier, I can do that too. Since the 80s they've held onto a better job market than other groups while holding special favors (again, swag) while gaming journalism was demarcated to the lower rungs of journalistic endeavor.

Wu wasn't relevant to any of it. Neither was Cheong, or Blob except in reporting about it.

You're missing my argument about the journos and looking into the identity.

Dude, fuck right the hell off with the bullshit. The left was there and some of us even warned about some of the mistakes but some of the more vocal people were too cucked by Milo and poltards to understand the problems.

The minute it turned into a fight about SJWs was the moment it became a scapegoating blame game and lost everything. Don't try to blame this on "lefties" when they were lumped right in there and did what they could before figuring out it was worthless.

I think you're mistaken. The commercial industry is just as ridden with it. They just have more lawyers to hide it. Remember the Sony leaks? Geohot? How about EA and their issues?

You won't hear about the screwing the devs get since the publishers keep them on lockdown with NDA agreements.

Oh yeah, I perfectly agree, that was a clearly concerted effort.

As expected of a socdem

Capitalism perverting videogames is bad for gamers. SJWs illegalizing videogames based on pseudoscientific moral hysteria is apocalyptic for gamers.

One can be endured, the other must not happen.

They were all there before. Well, except Wu. The game industry and its journalists have always been leftist/liberal. The problem is that they changed their opinions, people like Jim Sterling almost overnight went from a lifetime defending sex/violence/etc against the likes of Jack Thompson and Hillary Clinton one minute, then to pushing censorship/alarmism for Anita Sarkeesian and Hillary Clinton the next.

It's like some bizarre psychotic break happened among leftists during Obama's first term.

Yeah, there are a lot of big companies like that, but it's absolutely endemic among indies. Further, the indies are where a lot of the cancer among commercial devs (Bioware's diversity hires) came from.

One happens, the other exacerbates the problem. Now the publishers have an easy scapegoat to screw over devs and gamers alike. Whatever gains that could happen from a dev/gamer coalition are gone because the journos and publishers succeeded in distracting people from the problem. And it already happened. Not like people stopped going to IGN and other outlets when that's the only game in town.

No it fucking hasn't. That's just you pulling some ignorance out of your ass. Different developers have different political backgrounds so trying to make it sound as if they're all liberals is a massive conflation of who goes into the gaming industry and why. Stop thinking it's all one political hegemony when that's not even the issue.

You weren't paying attention to Sterling and his arguments before his SJW change. He made arguments to give males chain bikinis and then changed again when it was the thing to do.

He's a demagogue. He changes positions when he can make more money from it. The fuck are you expecting? Shakespeare from the guy? Come the fuck on.

Context matters. Silicon Valley has massive gentrification issues and you can't form many companies in America due to its economic problems.

So guess where the indies and such are going to have these kind of problems if we have an economic crisis… It's not a coincidence. I just don't see why people think gaming is some massive bubble when it's affected by the same economic austerity the rest of the world is going through…

Ironically one of the things Jim Sterling has been consistent on is working conditions in the games industry.

gamers, weebs, furfags, neets, and LARPers all belong in an oven

Hmm…

Not in toto, but specifically for the arts (much like other religious fundamentalists) SJWs certainly are. Look at something like the Comics Code that was imposed during the McCarthyite Red Scare, which obliterated an entire thriving artistic medium. Even after it was lifted in the 1970s, the damage was done, and to this day the USA is unique (not just compared to Japan, even compared to Europe and South America) for its microscopic comics non-industry and lack of readership.

In order to actually be worse than capitalism overall? SJWs would have to turn from an influential subculture in high places, to a fanatical popular dogma, and cross the boundary from social preening into outright violent totalitarianism. Even Christianity never quite managed to turn this country into a theocracy over its two centuries of attempts.

There were barely any out and out leftists during the original threads on Holla Forums or the aftermath that were saying what was happening was a direct result from capitalism or any of that shit. I'm not blaming the left for the utter waste gamergate became. That was mostly centrists who wanted to keep it just about games and only use the most ineffectual methods (they never even did a strike lol). Just saying there was no one really out there to push back against the Holla Forums narrative besides Milo and people like him who were into "cultural libertarianism" and shit like that. Basically people who just wanted the world to roll back 5-10 years.

spook THIS

Is there a lewd Vivian pics collection somewhere?

Ask here:
>>>Holla Forums12005945
Be smart about it, though. They can detect gommies with a single post.

People started leaving when they realized there was no left potential and I do find that true. There's no purchase (hehehe) with a consumer revolt if you don't get the people that's playing games on board. I WISH there was more left wing stuff going on, but all that has to be built and it's been decimated in America for the last 50 years.

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there's got to be some unity between the center left and center right. they're more similar to each other now than they are to their far wing counterparts. let the far left far right fall off and die like the rotting arms of a leper

there is no way you could ever get gamers and game devs involved in this.
the only people who believe that anyone in the gaming scene or industry gives a fuck about zoe quinn or whatever she is called are people who never played a video game in their lives, aka Holla Forums.

gamers only care about zui quan.

wait… are you even talking about gamergate? if not, why aren't you saging?
where do all those newfags come from and why do mods not force them to lurk moar until they understand what to do with Holla Forums threads?

You are both right. The initial impulse came from the lurid-ness, the gossipy deliciousness of the whole thing regardless of the actual truth. Regardless of who was in the right, the pure fact that it involved scorned lovers and implications of sex for favors, false or true, makes it irresistible to talk about.

Then it fell into idpol, both manufactured ("the death of gamers"-bonanza), and real (real harassment women do face on occasion that goes beyond the typical "faggot"-calling).

but that never happened

posting my VivianXAlunya collection in 3…2…

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GamerGate is fucking stupid. And I don't mean it's benign hatred for radical feminism, I mean it's just dumb how they completely ignore the institution of gaming itself is toxic.

It's very gynocentric.
It's expensive.
It hates it's own consumer base.
It fucking bans you from the shit YOU payed for…

But like you said, because it's an identity thing they won't see it. Any attempt to reason with them will be seen as an attack on them personally because they define themselves by video games which is also fucking dumb because I don't define myself by cigars and energy drinks even though I like those things.

I also wouldn't put up with companies treating me the way the video game industry treats it's consumer base. If Red Bull told me I was banned from their stores I'd shoot up the Red Bull stores. I know that would never happen as Red Bull isn't a fucking cuck like Starbucks I'm just saying.

buttheart overwatch cheater identified

Oh yes, the "cheater". The Jew of the gamer world…

Cause like just as whenever there's a white person you don't like, just call him a Jew.

Well, when someone points out the criminal and shit elements of gaming industry, call them a cheater.
Hush now normal rational strawman person, we're dealing with Gamer nazi cucks who must find some way to justify spending their retirement fund on pixelated boobies.

Holla Forums's anti-idpol stance is literally based on gamergate and how SJWism crushes every movement for corporate accountability, ethics, and a politically independent working class striving towards its own interests.
The anti-GG bait is getting old, reddit.

They did.
It's why you're calling it "the Dorito Pope incident" right now.
They didn't.
Was because rather than actually address any of the very valid criticisms about a toxic industry, it in one single voice cast all its critics as irrelevant basement-dwelling "mysogynerds" who literally deserve to be bullied
Fuck off back to leddit, we know how to read here.

Can you give any evidence of this existing?
By idpol we mean "the absurd and extraordinary claims ideologues make in order to push a certain, identarian agenda" more than we do "the things themselves which these claims allege." Conflating and equating the two is just pure DARVO.

Oh they most definitely can't.

Eh, he sort of has a point. Back before DLC replaced mods, gamepad auto-aim replaced skill, and paid online (which consists almost entirely of a 1st-party metaserver list for p2p player-hosted games instead of providing actual dedicated hosts colocated in a server farm, real value for the money, guys!) replaced private servers? Getting unfairly banned wasn't as big an issue. Even getting fairly banned didn't stop you from cleaning up your act and trying again somewhere else, not to mention free-for-all servers where cheating was openly tolerated.

Amen. Which is why I was so disappointed to learn our BO helped with creating that /ggrevolt/ faggotry. It was pure COINTELPRO shit.

I want to FUCK that cat

Women keep telling us, and only they would know what happens to women, them being women.

muh spooks
don't get spooked lad

Hahahaha

I probably shouldn't laugh though, many liberals literally believe this.

Don't we all, comrade.

(C85) [Mayoineko (Various)] Kemokko Lovers 4
altho that particular pic comes from some other book I forget

tyvm

This, it was fine for a month or two but /po/acks try really quickly to monopolize any movement so they can spread their cancer. Just like how SJWs tried to invade the new atheist movement (elevatorgate) and then divide it when they couldn't win (atheism+), their ideological opposite does the same. GG was doing great until faggots like Sargon, IA, and then Milo stepped in and started to try to turn it into an anti-feminist -> anti-left movement. Those who weren't there from the beginning (which I find strange that 8ch is filled with so many of them, seeing as the big boom came from the gg migration from halfchan) can't really speak about gg with any knowledge. No one expected it to get so big and a lot of threads were never archived. If you didn't witness it firsthand you can't really get a feel for the movement at any given time.

Every single valid complaint about SJW goon infiltrations can also be made about the Holla Forums cooptation of GG and other movements. The tactics and anatomy are literally identical. And there's no substantial resistance to them the second time around, because the two have been cast as mutually exhaustive alternatives

Misdirection, "framing the narrative," all that shit. When you see a consumer revolt against censorship, thought policing and business cronyism turn into "purge fun from the arts, but, like, the kind we're against," you know something's terribly amiss.

I would go further, to say it applies to Holla Forumsacks themselves, what with the (initially super awkward, after all, politically fringe or not most of them are normalfags at heart) white nationalist, survivalist, neonazi, neopagan, Christian identity, randroid, and MRA/PUA infiltration of Holla Forums. Especially the widely known op by stormniggers directly from their forum.

Up until recently (in fact, around the same 2007-2012 timeframe as internet leftism went irreparably insane), Naziboos were largely ironic, and sincere political discussion ranged over the entire partisan spectrum for the most part.

Of course, the two aren't totally comparable. SJWs have official backing from within government/academia, and favorable public/media impressions, but are personally disinclined from face-to-face violent criminal behavior. The fringe-right are generally suppressed by law, banned from or repressed within public institutions, and negatively seen by most, but have substantial links at domestically and abroad with various active criminal undergrounds.

No, it doesn't. It was gamers angry at journalistic corruption. Then all the corrupt journos claimed that their newfound critics were "sexist."
It was OWS all over again: idpolers trying to make it about them and their bullshit instead of the actual issue at hand.
Loads of people who weren't involved from the beginning then saw false stories, even in the mainstream about how GG was "about hatred of women" and ate it up.
Holla Forums fucked things up later by demanding that GG go full Nazi, and getting buttmad when they didn't. And then some of those Holla Forumsyps defected to Holla Forums and made shit threads like this one.
Don't talk about shit you don't know about. I was there from the start.

every time lol

You are on the wrong board.

every time lol

It's a medium, not a perspective, you mongoloid.
Drink bleach.

This is the only correct post in the thread.

Reminder that "it's about ethics in game journalism" was a ghazi meme.

The actual rallying cry was CORRUPTION IN GAMING

You know what I mean, you fuck.
The circlejerk clique of indie devs and journos who praise shit like Gone Home. Collusion a la "Gamers Are Dead." Coordinated censorship of discussion across multiple sites.

So you're telling me the whole shitstorm that made most gaming communities even more toxic than they already were was because some irrelevant free indie game was shilled?
This was the hill that people chose to die on?
pathetic

Stop.

No, the censorship and character assassination of those discussing was the hill people chose to die on.

GG was not a general consumer advocacy group, it had a specific focus. The kinds people who were part of it were the same kinds of people who shit on shifty publisher practices back then, and still do today. Seriously don't talk about GG if you don't have first-hand experience with it; the campaign of misinformation and smear around it was breathtaking, and caught too many people like you in its wake.

I abandoned 4chan and went to 7chan in 2008. Then I left 7chan in 2010 and didn't really have anywhere to call home. I came to Holla Forums's GG boards in later 2014 after GG started. When they died, Holla Forums and Holla Forums (for different reasons) became my main boards.

It's not censorship when the industry willingly does things to appeal to certain demographics and make more money off retards.

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That was after GG, you fucking newfag shitter.

What's the problem? I don't discuss GG on Holla Forums. The GG boards died because GG died, and I had nothing to talk about on that front anymore, so I just spent more of my time talking about actual video games instead of GG.

Why did you "leave" 7chan? I still chum around with my 7chan pals.

Quite right. What is censorship however is when you get banned for trying to talk about a certain topic on a forum you like and the discussion gets deleted. It's especially bad when a secret mailing list comes out later revealing some of the cliqueish fucks in the game reporting scene actively encouraged said censorship.

The problem is Holla Forums is a Holla Forums with video games shithole just like what Moot had turned 4/v/ into around 2011. The problem is that Holla Forums's owner is a shithead who sometimes bans people just for disagreeing with him.

Literally all of Holla Forums has memed about, mocked, derided and opposed DLC practices as long as they've existed fam

>It's not censorship when a """private institution""" does it, because I'm making an arbitrary a priori distinction between domination by public and private institutions
I bet you think labor contracts are non-coercive as well lmfao

Because the business model of people who produce Web content relies on generating outrage in order to maximize ad clicks. Are you really this stupid?

I guess I got tired of feeling like I was in a ghost town. I don't know if the userbase dropped in 2010, or if I just started wanting a larger volume of posts so I could find more discussions I was interested in. But it felt like it was time for me to move on. I didn't have a problem with the way 7chan was run or anything like that.

No, I mean what's the problem with me going from GG boards to Holla Forums, if I'm not shitting up Holla Forums? That was the obvious implication.

reminder Holla Forums was the most hated board on 4chan before Holla Forums became a thing

???
Since when?

But that's exactly what I said in my post you faggot:

Christianity had been effectively de-fanged after 1648, with the Peace of Westphalia. It never had a real opportunity to assert its (already waning) temporal power in the United States

Yeah, I was agreeing with, not contradicting, you.

No, that was /int*/, and now it's us. It's been us for a while, actually. Feels good.

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Why would 4chan give a fuck about us one way or the other? Are there that many traitorous crossposters among us? They go to gulag.

Leftism is the new punk rock

No, it had that phase in the '70s (and sort of in the '60s, although that was more complicated). We're genuinely loathed by those in power and those who don't understand what we advocate–i.e., almost everyone.

Leftism without idpol is an enigma for the overwhelmingly Burger cuckchan and fullchan audiences. I can understand them being a bit leery.

lol nobody gives a fuck about 8ch, even less so about leftypol
maybe if you weren't new you'd know that since ten years ago that Holla Forums was the go to scapegoat of the rest of 4chan, and now it's Holla Forums

I agree with your post, it's just a subtle but important distinction in focus. It permits the "lel even gamers don't really care about game 'journalism'" strawman room, which often primes the pump for the "why didn't GG happen from all the usual publisher exploitativeness?" leading strawman.

GG was about corruption, within and around gaming, centered on a conspiracy with unprecedented reach, with the intent to subvert and obliterate the entire medium. Violations of journalistic ethics were just the tip of the iceberg.

This. Five Guys was just another average sex scandal, no different in reception than the Brad Wardell rape accusations and PAX Dickwolves scare that the same SJWsphere freely prattled about not long before. No different, that is, except when people tried to discuss it like any other red meat gossip, the biggest coordinated censorship and smear campaign in online history happened.

Holla Forums was actually the first time I did more on an imageboard than read archived threads linked from elsewhere. Up until GG, I was strung out on various webfora going through the good-overmoderation-cancer-cycle as USENET's population vanished. I miss USENET.

I think he means the GG general. She pops up occasionally in lol threads as well.

I misread it as "the most hated board on Holla Forums."

This is 100% correct.

Gamergate is what started killing 4chan and made it too well-known to the masses.

2007

M8, I don't know how new you are, but mainstream exposure had been a halfchan problem since 2007 when that retarded Fox News story aired.

It was nowhere near that bad back then (unless you still browsed Holla Forums for some dumb fucking reason).

Holy shit

liek pottery

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WHERE ARE THE VIVIAN LEWDS

Go get them yourself.

why don't you ask Holla Forums
nice bump btw

All anti-GG posts here are cointelpro
Please ignore

stop bumping the fucking thread.

All pro-GG posts here are Holla Forums falseflags
Please ignore

Don't you see I HAVE to talk about this dead movement that has nothing to do with leftypol!

Dumb phoneposters.

Why doesn't this board have IDs?
All these sages could be the same person.

so retards ask about it

No one gave a flying fuck about Zoe. That's the goddamn point. The journos ran interference for the publishers unwittingly and the publishers used GG as a marketing tool to make more profits.

Ever think that Silverlight, a marketing firm, was the ones giving the journos their marching orders?

The bait and switch of the journos caused people to miss the goddamn point about the corruption and focus on sensationalism instead.

I can agree to this. Their pseudo-intellectualism created the quick made celebs who couldn't do shit but capitalize on their success with bullshit. So you just saw the journos use them to show how reactionary the movement was. Same shit with Sanders actually. Neoliberalism creates their worst fascist critics and it blows up in their face.

You do realize that leftism in punk rock was a thing in the 90s and new millenium, right?

inquiriesjournal.com/articles/612/what-riot-punk-rock-politics-fascism-and-rock-against-racism

Hahahaha, YES! Your hate makes us stronger!

Yeah I too love how fractured the left is and how the common person can't relate to it. It's honestly great.

My bad, sorry comrade.

I'd rather be hated than ignored.

It's much easier to effect change as a political group when you're hated than when nobody even knows you exist.

It's not that they can't relate to leftism. Most of them can. But when you call it what it is, i.e., socialism, most of them act like you just slapped them in the face. Leave the wrongthink words out, and they tend to actually agree with the substance of the ideas.

I find that a significant, possibly more than 50%, of people would agree with key passages of Marx and Lenin if they are unaware of the author. It seems to be entirely possible that the left's current debility is purely a matter of presentation, PR, marketing and brand management, if I may use such profane terms.

It's all holdover from the Cold War. It will fade in time, thank fuck. But if the left actually gets its shit together, there will be a new propaganda war on us, so we've got that to look forward to. :^)

Man, I'm kinda worried that by the time our negative memery dies off, there won't be a mankind left. We have to speed things up.

Material conditions will do that with or without us.
Also, please sage so you don't bump this shit thread.

I dunno, look at Sanders. The guy (and his supporters in normalfag circles) openly shilled his platform as socialism, using that very term, to rousing applause from the mainstream political arena.

I think we're really breaking the conditioning.

Pretty much, look at the boomers' reaction to repealing Obamacare. They fucking can't wait to get rid of it, until they find out that it's the ACA and they rely on it. Or the US military: you get free food, free training, guaranteed job, free housing, almost impossible to get fired, free college, retirement plans, etc. Americans are constantly screaming about giving vets all kinds of government programs, but if anyone else wants those then it's evil socialism. With the combination of the military jerk off and the endless middle-eastern wars it feels like I'm living in Starship Troopers.

To them, "communism = USSR, socialism = Nordic model welfare states." Though, yeah, I am happy that the term is less of a dirty word in Burgerland now.

What's funniest about the military (and other government employees') benefits, is that they fit the typical Republican spiel ideal about "muh employer-provided compensation". But the biggest reason such practices still exist where private industry abandoned them decades ago is because those employees and their family/friends own a share in the "business" and can directly vote to prioritize their bosses' actions.

In other words, unlike typical socdem welfare state policies, it's LITERAL COMMUNISM.

Lad…

Yep, and it wasn't because of vidya or players. It's because it was a Holla Forums 2.0 shithole that was considerably more difficult to have decent discussions about its namesake topic than any other board.

losers

But they'll know who the author is if they use ebil gommie phrases like "bourgeoisie"

You're about 6 months l8 there, kiddo.
escapistmagazine.com/news/view/130525-Depression-Quest-Dev-Faces-Harassment-after-Steam-Submission-Update
We were out to stab a cunt in the cunt since then.
see: quinnspiracy > Burgersandfries > gamergays

gb2SRS cancerfag

actually I moved here during The Scruffening but it turns out everyone else went to MLPchan. well, oops? that's probably why we're the best on the block for fighting feminists, they were assaulting us since we came about for "stealing" their show. They got some shitty parents group to complain about our show and lose on character? Hah! We retaliated by informing Anjem Choudary of their fun and got a quarter of theirs savaged pinknews.co.uk/2016/01/05/cartoon-network-defends-decision-to-censor-same-sex-romance-in-steven-universe/ boooom baby! Allunah Akbar!

yes, which was a direct result of q's dug up during first reply which were confirmed with zoepost
oldfaggotry activate!!!

also how many are aware Anita (or more likely Johnnymac) initially posted the kickstarter on Holla Forums anymore, even?

Overbotch is rank stank corporatist mishmash with Holla Forumsmrade memes and a token Schrodinger's Fatchick.
They hated Undertale at first because none of those uncultured shitbags know who Michael Jackson is and thought Mettaton was "transphobic"
Try again.

It ran a site specifically focused around a single game series with 70 different boards to 'keep the topics tidy'
The 'tism is strong with that one.

participated in*
It ran an FF community where it linked to its posts in the other (12chan)
Actually I'm really surprised there was never anything about that before now. It's amazing there was literally no crossover between the FF7 IS DURR BEST EBAR posters in Holla Forums and a literal FFShrine site.
Normies apparently take posting lewds of your cousin as 'just a strange eccentricity'

Actually being violent wouldn't have gotten reported, it's actually against the narrative. The whole thing turned into a censor-the-net psyops. You'd have to get a school shooting out of that to get a report.
tbf I wouldn't have minded getting violent but there were literally no violent fuckers at meetups other than myself, it was just an excuse to beer up or smoke pot (especially in ralf's case)
You think it was hard getting anything done on GG boards proper? Try IRL!
Closest we got was when I nonchalant 'threateningly' stood underneath Randi's address sign, but she wasn't even there at the time.

Of course they would, they're gommifornians I bet.
If someone hit "ban all from cali IP" I bet they'd all disappear.

Galbadia Hotel is mostly a video game music source, I don't think any actually goes there to discuss Final Fantasy.

there's a whole website, you know! vivi.booru.org

Yiminiy crickets! It really is a normie siege

yeah I only used GH too but it used to really try and shill new visitors to go to the forums. I uploaded some of the 3DO stuff there.

Random aside but at least some of GG's memegasming spread to The Homeland.

idk I think you might be surprised how many n00bservatives would abandon it if you got Tulsi to be the mouthpiece you deliver it through. Normie Trumpeters love Tulsi. There was also a thing, wait lemme find it actually.
news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2016/11/taking-the-stigma-out-of-poverty/
washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/12/how-the-republican-party-failed-trump-voters/
isa-global-dialogue.net/the-american-right-its-deep-story/
a thing where he removed the stigma about accepting handouts and assistance.

So basically they're primed to go back to the Jeffersonian era, and start the journey anew.

It's a reactionary response by teenagers to ultrareactionary out of control liberalism and media abuse of power. Yes, it's spooked, but it comes from the frustration of people who were never terribly political or educated on politics to begin with. I don't blame them at all, it's perfectly understandable that normies would react like this.

Acidman and the dumb cunts in the Holla Forums thread have discovered this thread, don't understand what shit posting is.
>>>Holla Forums12021350

8/v/ still has a Gamergate general? Holy fuck that's sad.

Whenever there is a GG thread here it gets mentioned in the Holla Forums general.

Does it DO anything?

Also, nice dubs…

why do these threads always get bumped by retards
are you that desperate for leftypol to talk about this shit

That's why COINTELPRO spams these threads with anti-GG bullshit, so that lurkers from Holla Forums think those are actually majority opinions any sizeable number of us hold.

Mods please gulag anyone who doesn't like GG, thanks.

Fuck off Holla Forumstards, you don't do anything but shit up whatever board you come into contact.

Sincerely, /a/

Fuck off /a/tards, you don't do anything but shit up whatever board you come into contact.

Sincerely, Holla Forums

Hey I recognize this, you're the ones who killed 4chan.

destroyed a lot more than that, hombre!

I think that gamergate was definitely a big contributor to the whole "culture war" scenario that we have now, but let's not kid ourselves. Gamergate was always nothing but inconsequential "muh ethical consumption" crap.

Holla Forums is general is spooked.
Was Holla Forums always spooked?
FUCK no.

But Holla Forums is a lost cause for now.
You know the best thing about Holla Forums tho?
The level of intelligence of the average Holla Forumstard is so low you can sorta push your own narrative if you know how to present it in meme form, and don't trigger the (insanely Holla Forumstarded) Holla Forums mods (and Mark himself).

If /letfypol/ was actually composed by people that wanted to get shit done, the biggest weakspot Holla Forums has is Holla Forums itself.
The reason Holla Forums took over Holla Forums so quickly is because Holla Forums is literally the DUMBEST FUCKING BOARD ON THIS SITE.
You can make them believe anything and trick them into doing a complete 180° if you know what you're doing.
They're walking meatheads propaganda addicted Holla Forums puppets but if you guys really wanted to, you could manipulate them into spreading your shit instead, and they wouldn't even realize it at first.

This pretty much. We control Holla Forums we control the chans.

Holla Forums is actually so fucking dumb i'm pushing the idea that a specific developer (i won't name) has a specific stance on certain things i won't get into detail.
I'm doing this by presenting material associated with that developer taken out of context that make him seem something he's not, and they're eating that shit up because they're too stupid/lazy/uncultured in general to actually check things if they're even remotely obscur, take effort to research and/or not on twitter.
The entire board opinion on that developer is slowly changing accordingly and they don't even get why it's happening.

I can't stress this enough: if /letfypol/ actually wanted to put some effort into this, they could infiltrate and change Holla Forums with relative ease.
Half the shit you guys discuss with each other here on a daily basis take more effort and preparation than the brainless amoebas that are Holla Forums regulars.
It saddens me to no end that Holla Forums is so firmly under Holla Forums's control, because it's just so fucking easy to turn the tables, it just takes time and dedication.

I think the initial appeal was the juicy scandal, but it never would have blown up the way it did if halfchan and other sites didn't try to hotpocket and ad-hominem it so hard, almost like they forgot the Streisand Effect is a thing. If it wasn't that, it would've been something else, all the conditions were in place for it (IE hostile games industry Porkies and hotpocketing jannies trying to redditform halfchan). There was discontent as early as 2012 with the ME3 shitfit where anybody wanting a real ending was banned from Biowhore forums and called an entitled crybabby for wanting an ending with a difference other than blue, green or red.

why the fuck is this thread still alive

Both anti gamergay sjws and the gamergays are hopelessly spooked.

It was originally liberal idpol vs those who are against that being shoved into their games. However the second group eventually got radicalised by Holla Forums and the alt-right and have turned it into a liberal id-pol vs alt-right idpol cancer off.

I really wish I could just push a button and make both anti-gamergays and the gamergays disappear.
Both groups are a cancer on gaming and I would be overjoyed if they just left

i don't think it was virgin bitterness that made gamergate as big as it was. it was the shady behavior of Zoey Quinn and then how idpol feminists came to her defense just because she was a woman despite her lack of professional ethics

I participated in it from the beginning and would say this is accurate, but so is this
Not kicking out Holla Forums was a mistake and where it all went wrong. Instead of doing anything productive like exposing the media being shit, GG just ended up being a clusterfuck of schizo-tier idpol and shitflinging.

This is better than "socialism = communism = USSR"

Bernie was basically doing exposure therapy on the whole country, being this completely non-threatening old man going on TV and saying "socialism" over and over for like a year.

Gamergate so many to Holla Forums it is unbelievable the butterfly effect it had, all over that nonsense. When people see things they know to be true, put through the ringer of liberal media hacks, and then on to the main media outlets, it has a rage inducing effect that doesn't leave them, so the press and press and Holla Forums was waiting there with open arms.

That is the danger of not routing these pieces of 30 something shits that adopted idpol in a brutal way.

It was a tragedy that gamergate was derailed by Holla Forums, publishers still have reins over nearly all of the industry and are allowed to pay for reviews without any resistance anymore.

They can't even see that they're literally benevolent sexist.

Isn't that the entire reason GG exists, though? Even now, all of this would vanish if they'd just stop attacking the medium.