MGS2

Would anyone else here consider Raiden in MGS2 more of a badass than Solid Snake? This guy is a previous child soldier with ptsd and he fought and army of mass produced RAY units all by himself.

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i thought that egoraptor already solved this

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I still fucking hate Raiden. Everything about him is anathema to the kind of thing that interests me in a character.

Even MGR Raiden?

No, Snake has a beard.

They both had hard lives.

I dong't like MGS2 Raiden, but I like the part he plays in the story and don't think I'd like another character playing that role. The way he grew to what he was in MGS4 was pretty neat tho.

Ah, he’s played up as sort of silly there, so I don’t mind it as much. I’ll like an over the top game as long as it’s either utterly ridiculous or hinting that it’s tongue in cheek. Or both.

I saw him as even more Marty Stu-like in 4, honestly. Then again, it’s a “near future” game series about immortal vampires and nanomachines that control the thoughts and bodies of every human on Earth by the end, so I guess I’m trying to hard to ground MGS in the “real world” it pretends to be a part of.

Kojima Productions probably just misunderstood when they were told to remove bugs from the game before release.

Yeh, I do think 4 got a little more over the top, but it still fits along with the general tone of MGS. Also, Raiden isn't much of a Gary Stu. The guy has a ton of mental hang ups that fuck with him, especially in 4 where after 2 he reverts more to his upbringing, removes the people in his life he cared about, and has horrible abandonment issues. He's a pretty interesting character imo and it was fun to see him any time he was on screen in 4. shame that fucking game never let you play it or it would be my favorite MGS.

Badass is more about attitude than what you do. Raiden is, was, and will always be too much of a whiny bitch to be considered badass.

mgr raiden was even worse because you could feel the attempt at making him cool and it didnt feel like a character arc. way of the samurai 4 did a far better job of taking a loser and making him likable

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hell no. He is basically a crybaby who lives in an empty appartement and when the girl confronted him about it he went full faggot.
and on top of that, the entire game was bait. I wanted to play snake. I played snake in the demo but then this ryden guy appears. Okay, no problem, snake will come later. Game ends with Snake not beeing playable at all. I felt fucking betrayed and until this day I refuse to play it again even if it was an okay game.

He's a whiny faggot homo, if he was younger he would be a shotacon. Snake will always be the most badass of the three protags this series had for the mullet and voice alone.

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I liked Raiden and MGS2 because it was full of insane bullshit, asspulls, and over-the-top action. The problem is that I thought Kojima created all this shit as as a fucking gag about grittygrimdark militarism for the effect of farce. Turns out, I was wrong and he was rubbing elbows with degranged hollywood freaks and psychojews. Disappointing.

Raiden is so macho~


bitch

No. He's better in 4 and R.

i would fug raidens boipussy

If I didn't play Snake before playing Raiden, I probably would have liked hi better. Going from a cool character I already know to some jackoff who needs the Soliton radar explained to him is only going to make me wish I was still playing the first character.

He was good in MGR until he went edgey, it's esspecially stupid since his ideals were right

Hayter may be a faggot but he and Solid were a match made in heaven for MGS.

Speaking of that, post the yaoi.

you do realize that he owns a casino, is a good gunslinger and a all around badass right?

He was willing to get killed just to experience the Japanese Spirit though. Is he the original weebfag or is he /ourguy/? He does remind me of Setzer from FFVI, which does add to his coolness.

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no

heh

What did he mean by this?

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judging from what Blowjima said recently I'm sure MGS series was good just by coincidence

as if it really takes a team to make a game

relly maks u tink

Even with that you still get shit like Yooka Laylee, you need a good whipping boy like the Rare brothers or Hiroshi Yamauchi.

Lol no. He went from dorky teenager to angsty teenager. He was just as annoying, you just didn't complain because you were too distracted by him being a cyborg gymnast who flips over everything, to pay attention to anything he says.

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terrible bitchboy wannabe-badass, ruined the game. cumjimer is a shitty hack writer. without fukushima to reel him in, his retardation grows beyond down syndrome, as seen in mgs5.

Why was fukushima killed?

Raiden going Skeletor was one of the best parts, If your made he went full edge lord you kind of taking the game too seriously.

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Best Raiden. Combine that with Cyborg Ninja's sword for the best MGR experience.

And look at his face and listen to the way he talks, I don't think an ex-child soldier will look like feminine underwear model.

I like Pepsi Man Raiden personally.

Hi Krictial.

Raiden is a fucking useless whining bitch in MGS2 who needs to be constantly told what to do and follows orders blindly.
He has zero agency, is fucking stupid because he needs to be told that he is being tricked and exactly how and then he forgives that traitorous whore of a girlfriend of his because he has zero personality.

A fuckton of MGS2 is badly written, but Raiden in MGS2 is absolutely irredeemable as a character.

At least in Revengeance they gave him agency and made him batshit insane, I am fine with that since it just operates on rule of cool instead of trying to be serious.

Actually I posted this video on youtube a month before Krictial did his. It was a mistake.
The video now has 148k views and all the comments are shitty Soda Puns. every week I get a notification of the same shit. either a soda pun or someone asking how to install the mod because their retarded.

That was kind of the point of his character in MGS2, a whiny faggot who only followed orders. Snake had to teach him to fucking think for himself.

Raiden is, and always will be, a gay nigger. except for in MGS4. He was a surprisingly bright spot in that shitshow

As someone who posted some dumb trump shit 3 years ago I feel your pain. People who treat this shit seriously is the cancer killing the internet.

But muh Fukushima

And don’t you love muh ✡Seinfeld✡ puns about faggots? Like, live and let live, you know?

They both had hard lives and some very impressive feats, but Solid Snake is definitely the more badass one.

Metal Gear Rising sequel when?

Someone post that image that explains all of this.

Raiden was supposed to represent (you) ,the player.

Any new MGSV Secret Theater shit soon?

How do you do, fellow Kojima fan! "I hope you riked it!" XD

So does that mean that the humor has gone flat?

Hayter raped the character no less than what Treehouse did. The original voice for Snake is not a cartoonish growling character that sounds ridiculous to anyone past 16.

Yo is this real? What else is a downgrade in the fucking thing (outside of the loading on the codec screens)

There were some other issues, but the only one I remember right now is that some of the blood in Vamp's intro scene isn't showing.

Anything this glaring in MGS3?

Googled it:

Stop being an insufferable contrarian.

I'm just torn between waiting for PCSX2 becoming passable and waiting for PS3 emulation to become viable, but this kind of threw that for a loop.

It still hurts.

Sure do love the Sorrow just flat out not appearing unless I play the game in tiny vision!

Hayter's shit, and part of the reason why MGS2's English voice acting was shit. He can't act to save his life, which meant they had to get somebody else to play Solidus, which meant that a lot of subtext and symbolism ended up being lost in the English version

Why don't you just get a PS2 or PS3?

You can't do a TAS on a PS2 or 3.

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He's a whiny fag who has a nice girl ass and is the greatest villain in the entire series that has done more to fuck the world over than the Patriots ever did.

Played the HD collection again and dusted off my PS2 copy and looked through several videos of this, the insects are there in the HD collection, is this a bug or some joke about if Tomm Hulett was assigned to do the MGS HD collection? youtu.be/FqOZ0MHRL-Q?t=6385

But by taking the joke even further we’ve exponentially increased the salt output in 2017 alone.

Iirc he first voiced Snake when he had a cold.

That's actually fucking funny.

Raiden is the definition of badass.

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