Dusk

Quake 1 has 20 years of maps to play and it's a whopping $1.24 on Steam

Who knew that a 20 year old game is cheaper than a current one?

It's probably the best "le old school" shooter from the past, oh I don't know, 10 or more years but that really isn't saying much. Remember STRAFE? That's how low the bar is.

Episode 1 was alright but they were always cramming too many secrets anywhere they could. They really should not have given you the super shotgun on level 1, and I don't like the secrets that skip most of the level.
I'm in the middle of Episode 2 and I think everything's a bit better. Better atmosphere, more enemy variety, and the levels are doing some really trippy shit. Everything's pretty fun so far and I think the game will be pretty decent.

You are fucking retarded.

How the fuck can something with 1994 graphics not run on a toaster?

Just cause it's preferred by shitty indy devs, doesnt mean it doesn't have potential to be good

>>>/cuckchan/

1996 graphics actually, big difference.

Try running some of those old games mate. They don't fucking work on modern OSes without serious fuckary and even then it's questionable. This applies until pretty much the PS4/Xbone era if you're on windows 10

here's another example, from the same developers.

Keep in mind, this is a Browser-based Facebook game.

Bullshit, Quake is 1996 graphics, Dusk is closer to King's Field.

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Didn't notice the soap. Thought it was only hidden at the last boss.

strong lack of rock/metal

Keep this bullshit on cuckchan, actual retrogamers play Quake custom maps when they want some new Quake. Not a retarded bad copy

Lowpolyshit

Yet Dusk is extremely popular with the Quake community and many of the people who do Quake speedruns got given the game for free and invited into the closed beta for deathmatch

Retrogamer here, I like Dusk

Reactor is, objectively, the best track on the OST. Fight me.

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Yeah, amazing engine.

You fucking wish, fucknugget. Virtua Fighter 3's Saturn port looked better than this.

CS music is fine but you don't hear it that much. Luckily because cyberspace sucks.

Trusting ruskies in the first place is a mistake
Might as well just wait for Squad to be released, has better gameplay mechanics that this piece of survival shit game with microtransactions.
nothing wrong with Unity though

user pls

It's flavour of the month shit no one will remember a couple weeks or months after launch.

Unity has one big issue: Unreal Engine 4 exists.

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I'm not buying Crysis again you fucking turkshits stop trying

Damn, those maps are bigger than I was expecting

I'm not shilling Crysis you braindead fartslut, I'm saying this shit runs like complete ass for a low poly memegame and shouldn't have used Unity at all.

If is telling the truth, the Quake community is full of retarded posers with no taste.

I really don't know where that retard got that idea. People in Quake community are too autistic to play anything but Quake. Even then I doubt they explicitly play it: most of them either mod for it or write their own obscure source ports.

A lot of these secrets don't really seem secret at all.

I hope you're right.

How else would the newfag shitters who join the official Discord server and read stickies about eceleb reviews find them? Just slap some text congratulating the player for finding "secrets" every so often and your cuckchan shitter audience will feel like real oldschool gamers.

I know it's one of those unwritten rules of the internet but who exactly are they fooling here? This shit won't get a sequel.

They should've named the game Dust because that's exactly the legacy it will leave behind.

That furfag metroidvania/whateverthefuck thing already took that name though.

Even they can make better "old-school" fast-paced first-person shooters :^)

complaining about using Unity is like hipster beardeaters kvetch about writing utensils. you only associate it with bad games because it has a low bar-of-entry and a faggy asset store - and the good games you don't recognize as Unity games.
it's just an engine, crawl out of your ass. there are hundreds of great past games made on worse engines.

Jim Sterling is a brainlet slug, not worth watching or repeating

If you still think that people complain about Unity just because of the associated games then you should re-educated yourself, nigger.

No you fucking queer, I hate it because it's a bloated piece of fucking trash, like your mother.

Kill yourselves cuckchan refugees

Nigger, this game looks worse than late 90s shooters and needs more system resources than fucking Crysis. Part of it is definitely overhead from the shitter engine but the other part is just good old retarded indie developer optimization.

Insert the yandev if/else here.

got you covered

Not really, the whole idea behind the name pixelshit is that snes era titles did not use its hardware limitations as an excuse to be lazy and the pixelart back then looked way better than what a lot of modern day indie developers do.

Dusk on the other hand does seem to be a very faithful recreation of how shooters from the 90s looked. Albeit the game lets you play at far better resolutions than what was available back then.

people are too quick to treat doom or quake as the golden standard of fps level design (I'd personally appoint Descent for that) without taking into consideration the gameplay itself, it leads to retarded posts where x is bad because it's 'too open' or 'too maze-like' or 'too linear' or 'not Doom/Quake-like enough'. none of that has any value as criticism unless you actually supplant said claim for why it is bad within the context of the game

levels in Dusk are more open because most enemies fire (comparatively) fast projectiles, so having more space to move around in is appreciated, though there's not enough enemies on screen at once
I'd say it's like an easier Marathon Phoenix

did you test it out for yourself? because it runs fine on my toaster

Can you really call it code when the guy obviously just CTRL+V'd it all from some wiki? Hell, he probably got some redditor to do it for him for free.

What's the correct way to do this?
I just need to know… f-for a friend.

Probably just flags and a switch statement

I like the Shotgun sound effects and animation but the rest looks pretty boring to be honest.

Episode 2 starts with like 10 guys shooting at you at once and keeps throwing hordes at you. Friendly fire makes it difficult to make rooms too big and actually mean something.

One problem with Doom is that people see a room full of enemies and they just circle them until most are dead from infighting. It makes those big rooms pretty meaningless. Dusk would suffer the same problem.

I would've been a lot more lenient with dusk if it weren't for the fact that they distributed it to all the e-celebs before making it publicly available.

People can talk all they want about switches and bitmasks, but what I want to know is why on earth he's casting 6 to a float instead of just typing 6.0f.

this shit again, you probably forgot already what quake can look like, here, take a look

Quake with higher geometrical detail always resembles Minecraft for me

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He did a really big one in the webm
I don't know the context though

Nice assumption, faggot. I never said any of that.
Of course you don't have to imitate Doom or Quake's level design, even stringing together some open spaces can work if your enemy encounters are designed well and the pacing is good (see Serious Sam). From al the footage I've seen on here and Youtube, Dusk's maps and enemy encounters have nothing going for them. There's room to move, enemies to shoot, pathetic "secrets", and absolutely nothing else: the level designer doesn't have a feel for his own game and just shat out some environments without putting any thought into it. Every single aspect of Dusk's design is as cynical and soulless as an EA executive dreaming about microtransactions.

Serious sam is not good. It's just a slaughter map where you circle strafe endlessly and get bored. The only thing that makes it fun is playing with a group of buddies at a lan party and even then that's mostly being sleep deprived and being around other people to shit talk.

But what does this actually mean

the dev doesn't know level design

that's the implication, but I do not see the argumentation
I can say this and that is bad, but just saying it's bad isn't particularly convincing

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So just like Quake you fucking hipsters?

Thats Escaoe from Tarkov you stupid nigger
Read the thread you 4cucklite

The point is that even Serious Sam's slaughter maps have care and design put into them, even though they aren't everyone's cup of tea. Dusk's maps don't have anything but the bare minimum of "let's make some rooms and put enemies in them, then put some other rooms in this corner and call them secrets." They're inexperienced newfag-tier maps tied to some dull enemies and sold as a product.
So no, it's nothing like Quake or any good shooter.

yes, but what exactly makes you come to this conclusion

>guns aren't even fucking centered
Fuck's sake, I thought I had low standards when it came to vidya, but could they at least have tried a bit more?

Good video tovarish.

Oh, okay then. I thought they just made a giant square room with tunnels leading in and out of it. My mistake.

It plays nothing like blood at all. Blood is full of hit scans and this doesn't have a single one.

Fucking newfags.

The only thing that's relevant there is the Secrets shit being too easy and even then some of the Quake and Turok secrets were much more blatant than this.
Otherwise you're full of shit

I think I've seen less resistance to NuDoom here than to this game by now.

Every fucking Build engine game and its over reliance on hitscan makes it extremely outdated, funnily enough the Triforcee one that has less of that shit is the one with the shittiest level design of all the three of them.

Reminder the devs are #Resist tier faggots and they've injected their politics into the game. The enemies are supposed to represent KKK members who you must shoot up to cleanse the world of those evil white supremacist nazi pigs. If you don't believe me just check their twitter timelines.

I'll just have to take your word for it.

I told you in the last post, faggot. I've seen a lot of gameplay footage over the last couple months and the unedited playthroughs you posted only make the bland level design more obvious.

Yeah, most of Serious Sam's arenas are empty rooms but the point is that the enemy spawns and waves are well-designed. I get slaughter maps not being your thing but for people who don't mind them, Serious Sam does them well.

Describing in detail why a level is mediocre or the bland kind of shit is much more difficult than critiquing an excellent or an awful map because nothing really stands out. Being a mapper or an architect would really help but I don't have much experience with either.

This is irritating, this is showing up on some Hooktube embeds now and blocking the scripts breaks the embed, but it still works on the site blocked. Damn tracking yids.

Good one
It misses some of the unique architecture and verticality of Quake but otherwise the level design is decent.

Isn't that a browser issue?

Just checked, and you're full of shit.

I should've archived it when I had the chance, cause I don't feel like going through 6 months worth of 30 tweets a day either.

Yeah buddy, I'm sure you did. Fuck off

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There is no skill to spawning waves of shit to kill them it just runs at you until it dies.

Oy vey they put wizards in white robes.

Just checked, the dev is a numale who constantly complains about Trump on Twitter and the company he co-founded is also publishing a pixelshit antifa game.

Wew

Numales are the bane of my existence. How do you even make yourself look like that?

If you want modern Quake play Arcane Dimensions or other modern Quake maps. AD is particularly neat as it adds stuff like destructible brushes, fugtons of new enemies, an even beefier shotgun and a neat plasma cannon thing. Seriously it's basically my favorite FPS. The majority of the maps are fucking huge and full of architecture porn.
AD: simonoc.com/pages/design/sp/ad.htm
Other Q1 maps: quaddicted.com/

That's the publisher you stupid fuck
Dusk is done by 2 guys and its certainly not Pixel Pushers

Guess it's time to post this.

I meant that it was trying to be blood with gameplay aping quake.

All that shit is meaningless when compared to the best change they made to Quake.
NO FUCKING HITSCAN

You just boiled down what a FPS is, user. Doom, Quake, Duke3D, etc. they are all just that.

Back to your JRPGs you faggot

If you check the Steam forums, at least one of Dusk's devs (Dave Oshry) is listed as a Pixel Pushers developer. My guess is that Pixel Pushers is a separate dev team he's part of and Dave using Dusk's popularity to push his antifa side project.
I should get back to work on my own /agdg/ shit

I don't even fucking play JRPGs, nigger

That would make sense.
I don't own dusk so I don't really care. I will say that the game looks rather fun. Once all the episodes are out I might scurv it.

Wheres the source?
Also
Holy shit, what's with all the fucking liberal and commie scum infecting that place?

It looks awful, is this being sold at full price? Who buys it?

Texas is half mexican now mate..

Speak for yourself. Serious Sam's enemy types and weapon variety alone make the game enough of a challenge.

DESYNC is better. Better weapons, better enemy designs. No exploration, but oh well.

It's favourable for tech upstarts to settle in Texas. Do the math.

Checked again, Dave Oshry is Dusk's producer (I confused him with David, Dust's lead developer) who's also developing an antifa game with some other antifa fags. If you check Tonight We Riot's Steam forums Dave (steam profile: steamcommunity.com/id/ElOshcuro ) is the only developer who posts. Either way, a good portion of each Dusk sale goes to some Californian cuck who's working on an antifa pixelshit game with some fellow commies and likely antifa himself.

Desync looks like eye cancer. I even prefer pixelshit over that.

Antifa needs to be purged.

What the fuck is wrong with American colleges?
Seriously, its a fucking disease, I live in a country labeled by the US as "lost to Communist" in the 80s and somehow college teachers here, while liberal mostly liberal, demonize communism and are pretty conservative in comparison to what I've seen in American colleges, what gives?
Whats the fuck is going on?

Welp, thanks for the digging for the info user
Wasn't planning to buy it anyway, but was planning to buy Medievil though, what a bunch of fucking retards.
Every tweet they make is filled with SJWs complaining how minorities have it so bad, goddamn.

Is just it me or does he look a little like Cucky B

Leftists create living conditions that are unsuitable for living in, so they move somewhere else that they haven't polluted yet instead. Then when bums are shitting in the street and living in tent cities and a 75,000k/year job gets you a starter tenement to live in and the only buisnesses are mega tech corps, retail and starbucks, they move to the next "cool city".

People who suffer from something painful know to avoid it in the future. Those who don't suffer don't learn to avoid it.

Communism acted as a weird bubble wrap for those who survived it. It made them able to avoid suffering from it again while others not isolated don't know this.

Haha, smash the fash, am I right fellow woke retro gamers?

Obviously there is only one solution (sans the final solution).

you mean you can't run Quake?

Subtle.

Try running a DOS game on say, Windows 7 without DOSbox. Windows 10 breaks a whole lot of shit, or so I've heard because I'm not a drooling idiot who bought into muh dx12.

Can someone confirm that this isn't BS? I liked Duskworld and planned to buy the game when it came out. But i'm not supporting sub human communist faggots.

I honestly wouldn't read too much into it. Clearly a Trump supporter. Shang Tsung is pretty based my dudder.

Read the thread and the projects he's been previously involved with, user.

What more confirmation do you need?

The confederacy was controlled by the rothschilds and the slave trade was mostly jewish.

Aw fuck, now it's on the site. What a joke.

Check social media yourself?

If you decide not to buy it send an e-mail and make it clear why. Demand a free copy since they're so keen on redistributing things and you deserve it.

but dude Dusky is clearly based!

Texas died in 1964. It's been nothing but neocon/liberal kikes larping as cowboys every since.

I guess, fucking Reds destroyed a shitton of property owned by them and their party when they didn't won the elections and used SS tier shit to get people into voting for them.
Lots of infighting too since these because the head honchos were also totalitarian as fuck and USSR supported.

Its dead Jim

Shifting the voting bloc mainly, democracy was a mistake.

No it doesn't.

I lurk in these threads hoping to find some vidya gems to play, but 90% of the posts are opinions and flaming.

This Arcane Dimensions mod looks so sweet, thanks mang :D

Try running a DOS game on literally any version of Windows since 2000. It won't work because they're different platforms. You DO know Quake was released on Windows, right?

windows sucks

You meant to say "Windows suck". It's a plural.

I think he is talking about getting a Blowjob from his Operating System.

Not really.
Windows is an operating system. It's a single operating system, thus it is singular, not plural.
Which means that the s needs to be added to the suck.

Hey nigger, what I was saying is that games from the XP era have issues working on Windows 10. I know full well that dos games won't work without dosbox. What that dumbass was insinuating is that the person with compatibility issues with windows 10 is running Quake on a toaster that can't run it, as if Quake has higher system requirements than windows 10.

I think he was insinuating that it's hard to believe MS would fuck up so bad that it breaks compatibility with Quake, but I could be wrong.

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where as I don't appreciate being called a dumbass, your assumption is correct, that was my implication and a jab at the dude for installing windows 10.

what? Use doxbox, use GLQuake, use WinQuake, use Darkplaces, I don't give a damn. If you are too stupid to find a version of Quake to run on modern hardware then you ought to huff helium and reduce the surplus population.

This just in, our seaborne pillagers known as skidrow have made it possible to play both episodes without giving any money to red filth.

Is there anything released nowadays that isn't?

Don't answer that. A rhetorical question.

I had a slight shred of hope someone would actually answer

This is cringy as fuck, almost as bad as the strafe team sending you a VHS tape of them as a kickstarter reward

(you)

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Shad has had sex with men

Well look at it this way, Holla Forums. If it is true that the Dusk devs are filthy commies, then you not only have an excuse, but a moral obligation to pirate their game. There is no such thing as private property under communism, so anything that the developers make belong to the everyone! Since Dusk belongs to us, the "proletariat", as much as it does to the developers, we technically don't need to pay for it since we technically already own it! We just haven't installed it yet :^) Paying for a game that we, under the rules of communism, are technically entitled to, would be capitalist oppression, and since there is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism, paying for their game would not only be wrong, but totally unethical!

So feel very free to pirate Dusk. It's what Papa Marx would have wanted, therefore it's what the Dusk devs would have wanted as well :^)

And his mom, don't forget.

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I know he drew porn of his mom, but when did he have sex with her?
Where was this stated?
Source?

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I don't remember. Maybe I'm wrong. You'll need to find someone more adept at the study of shadtism.

as someone with over 1k hours in all the STALKER / Metro games, I can tell you've never ever played STALKER, even with any of the best graphical update mods.

Seeing leftist on Texan streets makes me want to fucking gun them down. They are fucking locusts who that need to be put down. I WANT THEM OUT sage for off-topic.

You mixed it up you faggot
He drew porn of his mom, he didn't fuck her
**As far as people know``

You're just proving him wrong
Stalkan has actual art design instead of shit tier assets scattered around for a couple of redit autists to sandbox in

The fuck are you waiting for?

No, Mark wanted to fuck his mom
That's different

*right
Fuck

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ya know, when you type like that and respond to just about everyone in the thread, it makes it pretty obvious you're from reddit or tumblr

Finally, bioshock infinite meets strafe.

An interesting setting squandered with mediocre gameplay? That said the Southern US setting doesn't exactly lend itself to great level design. I'd want more things like satanic churches built to look like those megachurches, shanty border towns, and at least one duel on the Nuevo Laredo-Laredo bridge.

It's PvPvE only or whatever it is.
Not singleplayer.

I thought only baby's first map and shitty freeware amnesia clones did this.

How can I replace the original quake 1 sounds to postal 1 sounds? I'm imagining they'd mesh together so well that i'd blow my load to the moon.

I'd rather not

I liek duks.
Is liek quack.

Sure, Quake can look like this if you use source ports. You don't actually think these levels run on vanilla quake.exe, right?

Yes?
You'd be limited to a lower resolution and wouldn't have AA, but any of those maps should work fine in WinQuake.

No, this mod requares quakespasm or different engine with higher map limits.

I'm a bit late but can I say holy fuck what an obvious shill thread

Even if it did work on vanilla quake you most likely wouldn't be able to run it smoothly with hardware from the era, unless you were playing at the lowest possible resolution, and even then you'd have to limit yourself to software rendering.

you don't even play vidya though

At last I truly see

Dusk kinda looks like shit. I've played Quake in software mode back in the day and I don't remember the models looking so cheap looking.
Look at those shotguns from OP pic and compare to Quake's shotgun. It doesn't use many polys but they compensate for that in the texturing, Dusk's shotty looks like they just gave up and didn't put any effort in the gun looking anything more than a brown rectangle joined into a grey triangle.

It's great for horror. Old decayed wooden buildings and misty swamps are perfect. Set it post natural disaster and I'd buy it.

Imagine a horror game set right after a tsunami and you're a preacher who has to lay the dead to rest. Dealing with angry spirits, diseases from the corpses rotting. Everyone around you just lost family and doesn't want to hear your religious bullshit but they can't ignore the psychic reverberations from so many dead and slowly turn to you as a leader as shit gets weirder.

Seconding this, releasing the episode one as a free cookie was ok, but what the fuck is going on now? Are they inspired by telltale?

Another criticism for OP's pic is the texturing itself, it's very inconsistent. The wall and the white board uses detailed textures while the floor texture looks like a 8x8 picture being repeated all over the floor. The chair also has very low detailed texture and feels like it's floating in the air and it doesn't belong there, like someone poorly photoshopped that chair into the frame.
Either you make all textures detailed or make everything pixelized shit, don't make the two at the same time. This indicates some clear lack of art direction.

Although Quake had a very troubled development where different kinds of art style were combined together (medieval, techbase, lovecraftian, etc) they were consistent in quality.

Texas, specifically Austin I think, has a lot of tech companies moving in.

the new levels are quite interesting

why dose it sound exactly like quake?

Wasn't this game supposed to be out couple months back? I think I remember them saying that "buy episode one now! get rest soon™" and they only now released episode two? I wonder if they are going to fix the game at some point, I at least found it to be boring as hell .

they underestimated the time it would take to polish the rest of the game and the developer's wife's son, and thought they could pass off the first episode as a pre-order bonus, but they eventually caved in and just went into Early Access with the game

Fucking dammit, I wanted to play Amid Evil.

i like that the levels are vertical but like said the gun models (while animated nicely) look and sound like shit.

Unity is pozzed? What engine(s) arent pozzed?