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The combat's actually pretty hard, but autosaves are forgiving. You're going to need to explain some survival basics though because the game expects you to discover them by deduction looking at the environment.
's right though, it's probably best if he learns by himself, should be more rewarding and a better learning experience.

No, no it isn't. If he's not retarded, that is.

Also, doesn't this game has a weapon durability system with lots of disposable weapons?
This shit gotta be pretty obnoxious for a kid that would just want to run around and whack baddies,

Depends. Most anons don't realize how fucked kids are this generation. My little sister is growing up playing Minecraft on her phone unsurprisingly raised by a single mother , and she starts crying whenever she tries to play anything else, because it's too hard. She was traumatized by the first overworld of Spyro 2, never made it past the first four levels of Mario 64 and screeched autistically at the Forest Maze of Mario RPG. So if the kid actually plays games with a controller, it should be fine, though he might throw a hissy fit at the Guardians "TOTALLY RANDOMLY" killing him. But if he only plays shit on a phone, he will find it impossible.

Yeah, but weapons are abundant enough that this shouldn't be a problem, although I agree that they could've given you at least ONE default weapon that doesn't ever break, and that shit should've eventually been taken out of the equation via some kind of durability restoring item.

Anyway, the kid will figure it out on his own, consult a guide, or give up in frustration. If any of those things happen, then just let it be. Maybe he'll come back to the game when he's a bit older and conquer it. It's a good experience, to feel like something is insurmountable only to find out that your own limited knowledge is what was keeping you from success. It's a good life lesson; sometimes you're the problem, and you need to not only realize that but also find out how you can resolve the limitations that prevent you from success.

Get Odyssey. BotW is shit and you can get him better games.

Yeah, but everything is a weapon so he could theoretically adapt.

All he has right now is a tablet, the switch i'm getting him will be his first actual console he owns. He's pretty adept at using the tablet though, as well as the internet, and I know he used to love playing online games on sites similar to what newgrounds used to be. I think he'd be okay with the game. He's also getting too used to watching other people play games on youtube instead of playing them, which I want to circumvent asap.
I've also let some family know to at least get him cards that'd be useful for him to get other games on the switch, since most seemed to plan to just get him gift cards for christmas to buy itunes games, which seemed fucked up to me that a kid would just be getting money or gift cards instead of actual presents.

I've looked at odyssey. It seems even more complicated than botw tbh.

In this day and age kids are better off on their "phone games" if they can't play hard games. At this point it's better for them not to have a phone at all at such a young age. I lost hope on the new generation years ago.

My nephew didn't even reach the middle point of Zelda Skyward Sword (which was made for retards in mind), he was 9 years old when I gifted him the game for christmas. He ended up being one of those anual cowadoody/fifa player. If you want to infuse some taste in your younger family you have to constantly feed them good stuff, just a sole game per year won't be enough

That's exactly why you get it. My brother 120 starred mario 64 when he was 7. Your relative can definitely do Odyssey just fine. Fucking kids these days won't get good I swear.

I want him to LIKE videogames user, not play them because i'm screaming at him to get good from the corner of the room before he brings shame on the family.

The worst thing is that they're not even INTERESTED in anything new. My sis certainly isn't, and she's fucking seven. I played every fucking game we had, and when we ran out, I learned about emulation and piracy at a similar age. But this bitch depresses me. She plays Minecraft on her phone for three hours, then goes watches other people play Minecraft with mods, and that's all she wants, nothing else interests her. I've mostly given up, cause I have no idea what games could even interest her. She doesn't know anything that isn't Minecraft, so that's her idea of a perfect game. It's sad.

He's uh, he's really into minecraft. Is this minecraft obsession a common thing for kids? Like really into fucking minecraft. I've watched him watch youtubers play it for hours, then play himself, then research different types of blocks and servers and everything.

Who the fuck said you had to scream at someone to get good? I didn't say a damn thing to my brother when he got frustrated, he wanted to get 120 stars on his own. If your relative doesn't even want to get good at a fucking video game then just cut them out of your life because they'll likely be a millenial failure.

Get her something that will appeal to her feminine sensibilities, something like The Sims or a visual novel could be good. Action oriented games often seem like they're too much for women because they're just not interested in anything that demands the player to perform.

He's beyond hope now, he's probably already started thinking about making minecraft pornography when he's older.

No way. Let them learn more useful things instead while they're still young. They need to be creative. You wouldn't want them to grow up into faggot weebs like you.

Then what? Having a weapon that doesn't do shit is no different from not having one at all, and not having one at all at least forces you to retreat. If you want an infinite, weak weapon as default, then the entire game has to be balanced harder to encourage you to find new weapons. Otherwise, you could just rush through the game with that weapon (which you can already do if you're good enough). Weapon durability is one of the core mechanics of the game, it's like saying Mario should be able to kill enemies by walking into them, or that Metroid should let you know where all the upgrades are.
If there's one well-designed aspect of BOTW, it's the durability. While fairly annoying, it encourages constant exploration, which is the main goal of the game.

Depends on what you mean by "complicated". There's deeper mechanics, sure, but the primary goals of the game (the moons or whatever) are distinct and fun to collect. There's a range of difficulties in each of the goals, with various challenges which keep the game fresh. Contrast that to BOTW, where you'll be repeating the same 4 or 5 challenges, over and over until you get a 100% completion. You aren't forced to get 100% completion in either game, but the 100% is a lot more obvious in Odyssey (oh there's that one I haven't gotten yet) compared to BOTW (fuck I have 499/500 turds collected where the fuck is the last one).
Odyssey appeals to imagination, BOTW appeals to autism.

There's a reason men make up 99% of video game consumers

It's really common, actually. Basically, some single mother lets the tablet raise her kid. Kid watches Minecraft let's players because that's what's popular on Jewtube. Kid finds silly man on screen talking in silly voices and making sounds funny. Kid plays same game on his smart device (TM) because that's what funny man does. Kid goes to kindergarten/school and tells other kids about funny game. Other kids try it, find funny man funny and play the game. No one wants to be left out so they all play the game and learn it, no matter how hard it might be. They get accustomed to the shitty smartphone controls. They then try to play with a controller, or god forbid a keyboard, and fail immediately because they've only played with a phone. And since there's no peer pressure to like anything other than Minecraft, they don't bother, and just play/watch Minecraft all day.

She seemed to be into Animal Crossing for a while, but gave up because she's bad at fishing and catching bugs.

I disagree, the game's damage calculation is very straightforward; all you have to do is give the player a weapon that only does a baseline amount of damage, and eventually they'll get to a point where they'll have to rely on random weapons that they pick up throughout the game because their base weapon will not do any damage. I think there should be two unbreakable weapons that basically have a damage cap; a default weapon that they give you at the beginning of the game, so you can start out with a reliable weapon that will allow you to always be able to defend yourself, and then the Master Sword, which should be an end game weapon that the player must work to acquire.

In this scenario, the baseline weapon will only be good up to a certain point in terms of combat capability, but it can be used as an axe to chop down trees and interact with objects in the world that would otherwise retract durability from more valuable weapons. Additionally, the player would still be required to pick up random weapons and rely on them for the majority of the game, but the end game would eliminate this necessity by introducing the Master Sword.
Weapon durability is one of the core mechanics of the game, it's like saying Mario should be able to kill enemies by walking into them, or that Metroid should let you know where all the upgrades are.
No, it's like saying that Mario shouldn't have a stamina bar that prevents him from moving. The game is all about moving, you're going to be moving constantly. If you introduce a stamina bar, it could theoretically work, but such an inclusion would add a pointless limitation to the system that wouldn't really contribute in any meaningful way unless the game were rebuilt to accommodate it.

I knew a few girls, who liked the Sims 1 and 2, when they were about 10-12 so that might be a good choice. I would also recommend Kirby games, as it has a certain girlish aesthetic(cute, pink main character that explores cartoony worlds, and swallows other cure enemies). Furthermore, considering how autistic some modern children are with controllers and keyboard, I would recommend emulating the GBA games, and playing them with touch controls(they might actually do better with the shitty touch controls, than with a normal controller or controller attachment).

Kids should only start playing games when they're 10-13

I've been recommending Kirby to her but she doesn't seem to like it, cause it's not "cool" enough. That, and she doesn't like platformers, it seems. I described Sims to her, as well as Simcity and a few sorta similar games. She said she'd be interested in Simcity, probably cause you build a city, so it's similar enough to Minecraft to get her attention. I'll see how that goes for her.

No, if you do that he'll eventually grow up having a fetish for big, brown girls dominating feminine boys and shit.
Give him Contra and a copy of Journey to the Center of the Earth by Jules Verne.

Yes, your kid at age 6 is ready for just any game you yourself don`t think is boring or truly over complex.
Honestly, so long as it doesn`t include loads of reading and long-term-planning, the kid will probably be able to play whatever the hell you throw at him, you could even sit down with him and teach this yourself.

Mario 64 is a boring "game" with shitty controls and camera tbh

Yes, the harder mechanics are too difficult for a 10 year old to grasp, but he could have fun with the sword fighting, even if he takes years to leave the Great Plateau.

Nobody should start playing games.

I'd say SimCity 4, is a good starting point, as you don't have to worry about the economy and invading armies, like with Anno, or micromanaging the utilities of a town, otherwise it crashes down like with the Sierra ones. Plus, it's really hard to run put of money since all you have to do is, do a few missions for the evil scientist(or whatever he was), sure you loose a bit of popularity, but that is easily gained back. I doubt she would complain, about the graphics, since she likes Minecraft, and I think there are a few texture packs, though I'd argue the game still looks good ok even today.

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lmao

For what purpose? Aren't they just going to grow up to be casuals? I've noticed people who've started playing games at a younger age are generally much better at them, and value gameplay over story much more. I myself used to play on the NES when I was only three or so.

The internet is truly a blight upon a child's development. You might have some luck setting up a JPRG and playing it together a little bit, but you'll probably just have to come to terms with who she is.

My autistic sister was legitimately addicted to Minecraft and would play it all day long if no one tried to stop her. My parents didn't seem to care enough to do something about it (notice a patern here?) and whenever I tried to get her to do something about it she would throw an autistic tantrum and my parents would call me cruel or something, completely ignoring the fact that she had no friends or social life and spent all her time playing a shitty video game. The interesting thing is that she never, not once, played survival mode. She claimed it was to hard and would freeze up in terror at the sight of any monster or whatever and, you guessed it, throw an autistic tantrum. She never even tried beyond that.

I know an 8 year old girl who's parents don't monitor or restrict her internet and computer use at all. She spends all her time watching those gay letsplay youtubers and playing minecraft on her phone. She's probably exposed to pornography all the time, but her parents just don't give a shit. I just don't get it.

You start them off by having them watch you play and then let them try it out when they hit 3 or 4 years old.

at least she probably watches predie pie

Get him a Plug and Play. Make sure it comes with good NES games in it.

Games don't even have a fraction of the difficulty they had years ago, he'll be fine.

By that logic No Man's Sky is GOTY. Durability in DQ Builders is much better thought out. Higher level equipment takes a really long time to break and the ultimate sword never takes durability damage. I still can't believe that BotW gave the Master Sword a durability bar.

Speaking of Builders, that would be a good game to get for your brother, unfortunately I don't think it's out for the Switch yet, but it is coming. So is the sequel.

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BotW is literally the best game to play as a kid. You can run around a big world and fight monsters with swords and a magnet that can throw boxes at enemies. I wish I could be 10 and play BotW with fresh eyes. I honestly can't think of a better "first game" for a young kid, besides Dragon Quest VIII.

I can think of plenty.

Parents do not give a shit about what their kids do anymore. That's why you see how shitty the new generation is. It's nothing but a bunch of shits who look like they aren't gonna contribute anything to the world.

Bost them
and also lewds of that girl, preferably with her face looking like that.

Let that fucker git gud and if he complains buy him Dark Souls next year.

It also has a "scary" final boss that might be too difficult for someone his age to contend with mentally and physically. So it will be a real test of character when he finally takes him down and saves Hyrule.

Looking at Ganon from a child's perspective with a child's vidya acumen I can say that it is probably my favorite rendition of Ganon. He is legitimately scary looking, and I have no doubt he would have scared the shit out of kid me. So contending with the challenges kg the normal game, and having to face THAT THING to save the world would probably be a really cool experience to a small kid. You should definitely get him the game.

Name one that won't immediately turn the kid into an autistic weeb like yourself.

Unless your plan is to keep him stupid forever, your question should be "is BOTW challenging enough for a kid under 10 to play?" and the answer is fuck no. Get him a NES and Ninja Gaiden. Because if you aren't preparing him for the challenges and hardships of life, you're doing to wrong.

Back to polygon soyboy

*it wrong. Whatever, excuse the braincancer

Or maybe just have them play outside like actual humans and hope they never grow up to play video games.

I approve of this message. If I can play NG at 7 or 8 then a ten year old certainly can.

I never said I was scared of him faggot. I said he is scary. Suck a bag of dicks.

I wonder how common this is. I made my little bro grind my JRPGs and he is now good at video games.

This is really depressing, I'm moving to rural Alaska before having kids and they won't see a smartphone until they're 18.

I don't know but that sounds like a damn good plan.

Kys

Let the kid out of your basement, John.
Please, we miss him.

You call the cops and I kill the kid.

I called the cops. Do it.
If we can't have the kid back, no one can.

Just like Chinese gold farming operations

I have a son about the same age. Kids love games where they can just roam around and do shit without punishment: even if it's just fucking around in the starting zone without accomplishing much. Get him Mario, as Zeldo requires micromanagement of items and durability.

But if I may suggest you, the Disney Infinity games were discontinued and re-released as Gold editions with all amibo content unlocked. Those are great value to pirate on pc.

I have an autistic cousin that spends all his time on his tablet, playing the most retarded games, mostly minecraft. My aunt sees nothing wrong with that as she thinks it's just the modern version of when she was a teen, losing her time on the NES.

I'm glad I'm far removed from cities and cell towers don't reach this part of town. I wouldn't let my kids have access to the internet or a smartphone until they have the means of buying one and paying for the plan. In fact, I'd scare the shit out of them about mobile devices, by telling the truth about them, so they wouldn't ever want one.

Biggest hurdle is getting them to play games that challenge them instead of fucking minecraft

I beat fucking Battletoads on the NES when I was 10. Buy it and tell the brat to man up.

user you miss the whole picture, I was a NES kiddo myself and consoles back then were just a sad cheap plastic thing you did when you couldn't rock the arcades with your friends. Let little kids run around and enjoy their friendship before puberty hits the girls and ruins their perfect world.

Kids are bound to see their first game around 3-4 nowadays, typically some tablet shit. Among the first we played was Crayon Physics.

i hate you autistic faggots on 8ch who can' detect a little sarcasm, learn some social queue you stupid fucking aspie

back to reddit

Odyssey has the option of the easy play game journo mode.

user, you deserve some serious kudos for trying to help your sister.
The only other suggestions I can think are:

Do you know where you are?

For fuck's sake, I just played with Legos.

There's nothing wrong with playing video games as long as you ration your time properly.

I was playing OOT when i was 2. Shit was easy.

This was how I was introduced to "real" games. My dad used to play games like Diablo, Unreal, and Ultima after work. I would sit and watch him play, and act as a spotter for things. I also memorized where things were to a degree.

Besides that, I'd play old educational games that were targeted at kids, like Magic School Bus shit or the old DK games not Donkey Kong, the other DK. When I started getting older, I started playing more and more games. Mostly older stuff. The first game I played at release was Oblivion, actually. Which as you could imagine, made the game look really good at the time. What a lie. I remember playing co-op games on the PS2 a lot, and some MMOs as well.

Honestly, I think that's what missing with a lot of kids nowadays. If your introduction to games is being thrown a tablet or phone, you're going to be functionally retarded. Especially since these games basically don't have any challenge to them.

This. The game's perfect for younger kids. Hell my kid brother mastered the cap dive faster than me.

Nigga I played Ninja Gaiden when I was 10. Mates and I used to take turns seeing if we could beat the first boss, shit was great. As I grew up I got better at the game and actually progressed through, eventually beating it. Don't worry about whether it'll be too difficult, as long as the base gameplay is good, you don't give him other trash that's easy, you'll be fine.

This, I have some of my fondest memories from OoT even though I never got into a single dungeon other than the tree in the starting village. Don't know how old I was though.

nigger I was playing video games in fucking diapers, meaning I was shit at them but I had more time to git gud
Anyone who isn’t literally retarded should be able to git gud at a game, no matter what age they are.

Only managed only to beat the first 3 levels, tho

so one of my younger nephews (10 years old in a few months) was in my house because his father asked me to bring him to catechism class. In the meanwhile, he asked me to play some vidya so I obliged. Tried retro games (Donkey Kong Country 2, Genesis Aladdin), he was dying all the time, didn't know which path to take even though it was quite obvious, he got disheartened pretty quick and went onto watch some cartoons on the TV. He spends his free-time watching youtube letsplayers so of course he couldn't deal with facing difficulty (and yet those 2 games are easy as fuck). This generation is beyond saving, hope you're not deluded enough to expect them to pay for your retirement

How old is he exactly?

Just give him Super mario World.

You want to bore the kid to death? Gift him EDF 4.1

You almost had me

Give him Cuphead, it's litteraly free form GOG

nigga i 120%'d spyro when i was eight

he'll be fine

I let my cousin play Mario Galaxy 2 when it came out. He must have been around 10 years old. He got stuck on the first planet because he didn't realize to walk over to the Luma that has a gigantic speech bubble which reads "Hey, over here!" It was at that point I gave up trying to teach him vidya.

Neither of those games are easy as fuck, you are braindead and could have handed the kid Yoshi's Island or Sonic 2 instead, downy.

Spyro is a kids game though.

he should be beating the first stages at least
also he doesn't like sonic, already made him play sonic mania months ago, too fast for him

I feel bad for you guys with Minecraft-obsessed relatives

bless them

Fuck off, give them Zeldo 2 and make them figure shit out from the there.

Man, kids these days are bitches if they can't even handle a game like BOTW. I remember having beaten A Link To The Past by the time I was 10, as well as quite a few RPGs like Secret of Evermore and Breath of Fire II. Also Ocarina of Time came out just before I turned 10 and you better believe I beat the fuck out of that shit too within a few months at most.

if he likes ninja turtles then he can do anything as long as he feels like it.

Anime fucks need to fuck off!

user what are you smoking ?

You first Lowtax

Why not give him a good game like ys the oath in felghana instead?

user I'm pretty sure your sister has autism

Normalfags need to kill themselves.

im pretty sure its normal for seven year olds to like legos

Play other builder games with her. Dragon quest made one like that recently? It looks kind of fun, but probably gets boring fast too. But I guess your sister might like it.
you have to save your sister. little by little make her play different games.

Is that worth playing?
I've never played a Zelda game before but I'm in the mood for some exploration.

if you get a stiffy when exploring xboxhueg places then fuck yeah it is.

I don't plan on ever getting married or having kids but I'd definitely get a kid either Sonic Mania or Mario Odyssey.

Botw, especially at the beginning, expects way too much presumptions about how the game works in terms of physics and mechanics and the combat is way too hard without any upgrades, it honestly surprises me Nintendo allowed the director to go that route since Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword were polar opposites, I completed those games easily before I turned 15

It's a terrible first Zelda game.
It's a great exploring game.

Nigger, what kind of bitch kid is this if you're worried about a game being too hard for him?

SimCity 4 is far, far more difficult than Anno.

I only played Anno 1503, and it's been years since I last played SimCity 4, but I guess if you play on a map, with no rivals and have most resources on one big island, then yeah it is easier than SimCity 4, but if you fuck up your trade routes, or your rivals duck up your trade routes, then the whole city and economy will collapse and you will end up in debt, unlike with SimCity 4, where all you had to do was do some missions for the evil guy if you end up in debt. Plus in SC4, you have all those advisers that tell you, what the citizens need and want.

maybe reddit is more your speed normalfag

I've only played 1404, and it was so braindead easy with zero challenge that it felt like the game was only maybe 25% finished being developed before they released it. It's not even fun as a city builder.

SimCity 4 on the other hand was hard as balls, and it was fucking impossible to not go bankrupt, so I don't know what you're talking about.

I have decided and bought the presents for him. Ty anons for all your help.

So what did you buy for him?

Some of the first games I played and beat at 10 years old were SNES RPGs. If BotW is too hard for a kid, that kid may just be retarded or severely lacking in intuitive thinking skills.

A switch and breath of the wild. My dad is gonna get him Mario and minecraft as well.

I hope he'll be able to enjoy it. One thing you should do is ask him about how his game is going. Interactions where he can share his experiences will create a bond to the game, as well as improve the relationship between you.
I hope you'll have good luck as you bring another into video gaming.

So, "are you winning son?"?

NO
STOP
DON'T
DO
IT

He's already obsessed with minecraft. I gotta wean him off the shit games and onto good ones like zelda.

nah, Things like "so, what's happened in your game so far?". That will open up lots of things to talk about, given he's interested.
Maybe he found some apples, or a cool treasure. If he doesn't understand a concept, maybe you'll be able to help him out.

I speak as an older brother to a now 20 something younger brother, who I was able to impress about a year ago when I helped him get past an area in Super Metroid.

That sounds like a lot of work.

The work of an older brother to help his younger brother is a life long job.
Let him play and make mistakes, Just show interest and ask him how the game is going now and then. These times wont last forever, better to let him see how cool and dependable you are now before he get's too old.

I finished Zelda 1 and 2 on NES before I was 8.
They were mechanically simpler but much less forgiving. If your family member has the co-ordination to handle navigating a 3D space, then he'll be fine.
If not he's a casual and you should cull the weak.

I can confirm that a 4 year old can beat an adult in a speed running platform game.

2D or 3D?
I've seen kids master 2D young but completely get lost trying to handle 3D navigation with analogue sticks and more than 2 face buttons.

One of my fondest memories was Tomba. I beat that game even though I couldn't read. Fucking kids these days.

3D with free movement, thin platforms, timed jumps, and without stopping. Mouse and keyboard.

This is within the ability of a 4 year old with the use of a mouse and keyboard. Analog is more difficult.

What a time to be alive!