In retrospect, all things considered, was Vice City Stories the best GTA game of the series?

San Andreas = Vice City > IV trilogy > III > VCS > LCS > 2 > London > 1 > Advance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V.

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VC & SA best GTA games.
Fight me.
Pro tip: you can't

Gangs are always the coolest part of any GTA game.

GTA was never good anyways.

While SA is better from a technical perspective, it aged like milk and has a depressive atmosphere (brownbloom and blur). SA has turned into a meme game. (le order number 9 amirite boiz xD). The map might be huge, but most of it is empty landscapes. The second half of the story takes a huge nosedive: it goes from a Crips&Bloods simulator into a whacky adventure where CJ flies jetpacks and infiltrates Area fucking 51. And nobody cares about the RPG mechanics.

VC's 80's atmosphere is timeless. It's vibrant and colorful. It aged like a fine wine. The music alone gets me coming back to the game every few years.

People only look fondly of SA because it was their first "big map" game where you could seemingly "do anything".

What shit taste.
Out of the 6th gen GTA games:
LCS > San Andreas > Vice City >>>> III >>>> shit >>>> VCS

Only the PS2 version uses the bloom effect and how did it "age like milk" because I played it to completion for the first time only two years ago and thoroughly enjoyed it.

No it didn't, you're just a nigger. The game is fun as fuck and it's rembered for being fun and comfy the whole time through.
Yeah, the music. The game is worse than San Andreas, but you fucking niggers think it's the best thing every because they had money to buy actual good songs. Anytime someone talks about, the only fucking good thing people have to say about it how good the music was. YOU DON'T GET TO TALK ABOUT HOW GOOD THE SOUNDTRACK IS IF ALL THEY DID WAS BUY THE MOST POPULAR SONGS FROM 20 YEARS AGO

Oh and the gameplay mechanics were greatly overhauled in SA compared to Vice City. It seems to me that you have more nostalgia over the atmosphere of the games than nothing else. Vice City is a lot cruder gameplay-wise

GTA Phil Collins Stories

Scarface > Niggers

So you only care about the story?

VCS, LCS, Chinatown war SA and Bully are pretty tied for best implementations from rockstar of sandbox gameplay

Bully was great because it had a small open world that felt alive and detailed much like Shenmue.

Scarface is 1930s

???

Scarface is 80's

Scarface with Al Cuckacino is a remake of an older film

This is correct

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what about the realistic portrayal of negros in SA

Its pretty good. Graphics havent aged well but with all these overhauls coming out that make it look like current gen its going to be worth replaying (i hope).

Bully wasn't really R*, it was R* Vancouver (R* North are the 'real' R*). That's a lot of the reason it was so good.

Also there was actually going to be a San Andreas stories but it fell through for whatever reason and the basic plot elements were turned into a 30 minute in-engine cutscene thing.

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This is the HD version but it has a retarded age check on it, it should still play embedded.

thats not the origin of this you moron
the introduction came out during original release, it was packaged with prints of the game soundtrack

My bad, that's just what I was told way back. Still an interesting watch.

I remember loving Chinatown on DS but I HATED it on PSP. God damn it was bad on PSP.

The PSP version had
Why? Because of muh 5 seconds touch microgames?

No Scarface was a cry for the police to do something about the rampant Italian crime syndicates. Then there was some meaningless remake that niggers love I guess you are probably thinking about that

Because the DS version had better framerate and controls.

Either San Andreas or Vice City.

No exceptions.

I want to see your sources for those wrong claims. And the DS version is dogshit. You are just nostalgic.

Vice City Stories was the worst selling game in the entire series, fun fact. Rockstar themselves were responsible for a shitload of congressional bullshit about 10 years back, when they slipped in Hot Coffee. They lied to the ESRB, got caught by modders who found it on PC right away, then they blamed the modders, were forced to be held responsible by the ESRB and Congress, got the CEO of Take Two fired, and refused to talk about the controversy. It's well known the Hausers and Rockstar are pussies who when push comes to shove, run away. Nowadays the GTA community is pretty much done with Rockstar, after being mislead by Rockstar with GTA V's DLC. Vice City was a great game but fuck rockstar.

You. You I like.

Myself.

No, I want to see those side by side framerate comparisons, explain exactly how the controls of the DS version are better.

I have no idea how to show framerates on either of these, but the DS plays smoothly while the PSP lags like shit constantly. Chinatown Wars is the only game I have ever played on PSP that lags like that.

The controls are made for DS and that is why they are better for DS. The game is designed around the DS, not the PSP. Driving with that analog stick feels like shit.

It didn't lag at all on my PSP? How did you play it? UMD, CSO or ISO?
That's not a proper reason and makes no sense. The game has very simple controls that converted well to the PSP. Again, you are a minority.

These do not make something good. People can say the exact same thing about Sa's 90s atmosphere.

People who use something so subjective like nostalgia as a criteria for a thing being objectively good need be lynched like niggers in the street.

People's defense of Vice City is always the atmosphere, but that's hardly fucking impressive when you have a decade of clearly defined culture to draw from, It's like asking an artist how they got the inspiration for their drawing after they told you its the house from down the street.

ISO.

I've waited for it for so long before just giving up.

No, it was one of the fucking worst ones. The only reason why it's not the worst one is because gta lcs exists.

Says the shit eater.

Here are points why SA is shit without going for
80% of the game IS A FUCKING FILLER, Las venturas and San fierro are boring as fuck especially since everything that happens there is entirely in the filler part of the story while all the fun filler missions are either in the desert or badlands. And when the story finally gets back on track it can't focus. How the fuck GS becomes an entity after an already withered gang gets it's members killed, imprisoned and getting all of what's left alive and free coopted by NUMBER 9 LARGE into ballas.
That's why atmosphere is so fucking shit.

Sorry that you're confusing "going on an adventure" with "filler." The flight school was filler, but that's about it. Doing missions for some CIA spook who forces you to steal a fucking fighter jet and keep it is fun as fuck. So is robbing the casino, and helping Woozie out. Sorry that you need tightly structured CINEMATIC EXPERIENCES

Bully was pretty good.

But the game is boring until you leave Los Santos. It only starts to pick up once you get to San Fierro.

So you never played the game.
You're an even more illiterate busta nigger than Ryder.

Fucking LCS has more adventure in the 2nd act than SA does in towns 2 and 3. How is it an adventure when most missions are around that shitty gas station and the casino. In 2nd town you rarely ever diverge from the road that goes along that station and in the 3rd town you barely even do any missions there, because most of them are either not location specific or out of town. And the reason for that is that your "authority" never grows within a town, thus whatever regions and jobs that could be done within less or more wealthy regions of that town don't get explored.
You've also missed entirely the status of my understanding of reasons behind the decisions that were made
I understand that it's an adventure and the moral is "everywhere is shit but home", but that still has "everything is shit" as a part of it.

How can it pick up if everything that is good in SA is build around GS? Until Sweet gets out of prison the only thing you do is change pimps that use your ass, you don't grow in any respect until that point. Like, outside of that rapper sideline, where does anything from the filler part of the game comes up later? Did it affect anything that could happen after that? For all everyone could care CJ could be just flinging shit growing marijuana on someone's farmland until Sweet calls him up and says "oi, busta, we need to resurrect GS back to life" and barely anything would change.

Fuck, you could at least mention that there were some relevant missions sprinkled across that massive pile of uninteresting. But you probably dont remember them, that's why you must resort to such garbage arguments.
And this retard calls me stupid.

I think this is your problem. You keep going on about "muh filler" like the plot matters. I don't give a shit about the ooga booga plot. I don't give a shit if something is filler or not. It's not a tv series, it's a game. I only care if the gameplay is fun, and the gameplay is most fun after the initial Los Santos section. You're just bitching about the story, which is irrelevant because the only thing that matters is what's FUN.

Yeah, pretty much.

Thank you for conceding the point.
Then why are you responding to it more than to the parts of the complaints that are actually relevant to you? It's not like my argument was completely dry of fun and gameplay part's criticisms. For example, the argument for non existent progression within towns and thus complete lack of variety. I could add more meat to it by saying that the missions within towns feature less gameplay mechanics than what is either in los santos or badlands/desert. The former because los santos is obviously the main focus of the game thus there are more features and development effort packed into it, the latter is solely because it's a different landscape with different rules and developers naturally had to improvise to come up with fun stuff.

And the remake wasn't a cry for the police to do something about the rampant drug crime of the 80s?

Keep posting these fucking obnoxious anime pictures and I will hurt you.

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Why should I, I mean you have played SA right? Otherwise you wouldn't resort to such garbage arguments.
It wouldn't be so confessing if you weren't saying
Try not being illiterate and throwing words around in a poor attempt at sounding smart like a some nigger.

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Can't put my finger on why, but after replaying a majority of the series last year i found liberty city stories to be my favorite.

Played bully for the first time a couple years back (the scholarship edition).

It's was pretty good. I may be a minority on this but i hope it doesn't get a sequel because i get the feeling that modern rockstar will fuck it up.

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Vice City -> LCS -> SA ->VCS -> 3
They're all good. God, I remember getting Vice City, I was so happy. I want to go back.

GTA V is by far the best game in the series when you consider overall scale and technological scope

GTA Vice City is by far the best game in the series in terms of overall depth in its setting and atmosphere

San Andreas is pretty much just the poor-mans GTA V at this point. Rockstars rendition of the 1990s is just too drab in my opinion to count it in terms of atmosphere. Even GTA V had a better atmosphere with "DUDE BEACH SUN STUNTS WEED CALIFORNIA LMAO!" Although I will give SA credit that the world I do think is overall better designed than V in the sense that it feels larger while technically being less than half the size of GTA V, but the sheer attention to detail of the world in GTA V is unmatched in terms of open worlds in general

By far the worst GTA in the series is IV though, even though niggers will still defend it

VCS and LCS came out on PS2 as well.

Yes I have held this opinion since 100%ing all of them and id say in terms of controls, content, and sound track VCS is objectively the best GTA in the series, but i still play GTA SA much more.

III has the most challenging missions but no motorcycles.
VC introduces motorcycles and has improvements in character and mission design but the map is smaller than III.
SA has the largest and most various map (including urban, forest and desert areas) but the missions are stoner level easy. Most of the fun is in exploring while wearing nothing but boxers. Also bicycles.
IV introduces new battle systems that make the game more engaging to play but by now there are a lot of other open world games that you could play as an alternative. Also what the fuck happened to the bicycles?
V has better graphics xD

That is factually false. GTA Vs map is roughly 50 sq mi while SAs map was roughly 14 sq mi. It just felt larger because, as you said, it was more varied

Is this the new "Now that the dust has settled"?

ok that was my mind on 2004 advertising. But the rest is factually correct.

VCS is fun but it's a pain in the ass to micromanage all of those properties and do the missions for them and defend them from rival gangs. You never really got the opportunity to enjoy the fruits of your labor in that game.

GTA2 for Dreamcast is objectively the best.

(You)

The entire series is shit, and so is everyone salivating over GTA: Something Awful. Fucking nigger game, entire game is filler and shit to distract you from the fact it's a retarded story about some nigger getting brought back into a nigger gang through peer pressure magically turning into creating a miniature crime empire in a series about glorifying being a subhuman criminal.

I love IV and SA's opening songs.

Youre right. I better start playing video games that make me feel like a badass to distract me from the fact that im a twink faggot who is friend zoned by sluts with huge tits

Nothing tops III's theme
Funny, now that i look at IV's theme name i can see it was a song for Mikhail and Dmitri

Proper undeniable order:
LCS > San Andreas > III > GTA2 > Vice City > VCS > GTA1 & expansions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> having my eyeballs gouged out by a dick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GTA4 & expansions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Getting spit roasted on my empty eyesockets by a pack of mulatto midgets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GTA5

2 should get a remake, or a proper sequel

coolest game in the series

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Honestly this would be pretty cool just like a colombian cartel GTA, but nurockstar would shit it up.

Immature faggots the whole lot of you

GTAIV has the best driving.

t. A real man's man

Nice watermark, faggot.

OST was also.

I think most anons would prefer Bully stay dead rather than turn into some sort of bastardised GTA:V style thing. I just imagined Bully Online…

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God damn it, it would even write itself.

San Andreas features the most moral characters of any of the GTA series, and you complain that it's the most degenerate?

Grimy realism is shit, and so is a character that desperately wants to avoid killing in a fucking GTA game.

CJ buried a guy alive in cement because he catcalled his nigger sister. And he drowned another guy and his hoe just so his faggot friend could sell shitty music.

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The only people who complained about the driving are no-skill faggots who can't pull off sick drifts.

Victor and Niko are for humane characters despite Vance after VCS embracing the life of a cokelord.

Sounds like a personal problem to me.

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GTA: Something Awful gets called out the most because it's the most shilled for.

Sure. On what kind of Krokodil though?

Weren't those basically Trevor's early missions in V?

Oddly enough, they were the best ones in the game, and an entire game like that would be amazing, so…

I challenge all nostalgia faggots who think Vice City is the best GTA to try it again in the [CURRENT YEAR]. Almost everything about it is legit awful. The controls and the missions are tedious and annoying. It's a shit game. I only truly saw at last when I tried it again this year. Then I played San Andreas and it was still pretty fantastic.

I just did, it was great.

You're one illiterate nigger.

Before you say this you should note that the PC port of Vice City is pretty poor.

Every single 3D and HD era GTA is one of the worst ports in history.
Except maybe for gta 3 which isn't saints row 2 tier like the rest but it's still a really bad port.

San Andreas' port isn't that bad, a few missing graphical effects (you can add these back with mods) and the physics going wonky if you turn off the frame limiter are the only issues that spring to mind. V's port is also surprisingly good or at least I didn't see any big holes, likely because it was done by R* Leeds instead of the every-competent R* North.

IV's is likely the worst in the series, performance was terrible and it had things like objects popping in right in front of you while driving.

Oh god yes. Many of my steamfriends told me to not get it on PC. But I should've listened. The controls are so terrible.

Controls are a minor issue compared to horrible performance and silly things like framrate dictating speed in cars (multiplayer as well as single player). R* North have always been pretty bad at the technical side of things, particularly on PC.

That's a thing in all gtas from gta 3 to gta 5.

When will we get a female main character?

Hopefully never.

But in the old GTAs you can at least turn on a frame limiter to keep it at 30. In IV the shit performance (and attendant random FPS drops) prevent anything like that and the multiplayer races are ruined by it.

Fuck off, SA is shite and VC is a classic. Though VCS and LCS are worse.

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Alright alright, SA isn't shit, it's partially great and partially awful, but since the parts aren't mixed together (but quite the opposite) I don't average them out into a "meh game" and focus instead on the awful part that takes up most of the game.

What are these awesome feature and awful and generic gameplay youre talking about nigger

>weapon experience barely changes outside of gang war slaughter
As game area increases, car tuning and dating become more of a hassle to the point of actually being a hindrance.

So here you go, blind retard.

gta3 left the biggest impression at the time but VC is best over all
all the cuckolds ITT saying SA kys

To be fair, SA had it's moments in terms of impressing with it's expanded amount of open world features, but it wasn't as big of a jump as from 2 to 3 was, and unlike 3 SA wasn't as consistent in terms of its quality.

COUSIN LETS GO BOWLING

I haven't played V, what's up with it?

t. VCuck

upboated

Look m88, if you are going to damage control with memes and nothing else, at least change id.
That way we at least wouldn't be able to point and say what a fucking cancerous retard you are.

Yes

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Not sure about IV but in V you can lock it to 30fps by turning half v-sync on

The only reason you'd actually want to do this though is for fps consistency. The Bullet and Euphoria physics engines are NOT tied to framerate in the R.A.G.E. engine like the Renderware toolkit physics were in the old GTA Engine

Also bicycles are a thing in V

SA has too much pointless and bullshit nofun missions, bullshit RPG mechanics, and significantly worse combat mechanic that the GTA that came after it.

No, by the time it came out it most people had played enough of the other titles that it felt like a mod or dlc than anything. The music wasn't quite as good, the radio chat not as funny, the celebrities not that famous. A downgrade in more categories than the upgrade in gameplay.

That said, it still was a pretty good game.

My nigga.

Does anyone know if the models from the xbox version were ever ported to PC by modders? And did Rockstar ever patch the broken lighting in the Steam release?

elevator music a shite

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VC or SA are acceptable answers. GTA3 is for hipsters, GTA 1 & 2 are for shitposters. GTA IV is for 'muh story' normalfags who shouldn't even be here. GTA V was sacrificed for shark cards and had most of the content withheld for online and thus shouldn't even be considered.

Just like you.

(You)

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GTA 1/london and GTA 2 are more the hipster choice, GTA 3 still has people making mods for it to this day

Using words you don't even know, nog

Zero missions and everything else was incredibly fun and a great change of pace, fuck off.
, bullshit RPG mechanics
That did basically nothing except add some life and give you a slight sense of progression
What the fuck did IV have? Fucking cover based shooting that was more useless than NOT taking cover?

you can enjoy youre fedora-tier music,just dont pass it off like its any good

It was somewhat clunky but the quick action animations for cover were great as a dodge mechanic. Blind fire was good but maybe too accurate
SA is still the best

the cover mechanics were essential if you werent focused on dieing in 2 seconds the minute more than 2 enemies show up

You could crouch, and there was even a fast crouch movement, problem would be managing the camera. Also it buffed the accuracy but didn't allow hip fire.
GTA with classic Max Payne shooting when

Cover was unnecessary on PC.

which came out like 2 years later

Playing GTA on a console is a mistake.

Nigger, I spent 50 hours on co-op with my friend. He would take cover, I would no, and taking cover almost always guaranteed a death.

In GTA:IV the speed of your car certainly is tied to FPS, in the almost impossible case you get to try a race without a hacket in in multiplayer you'll see it to a shocking level. Thankfully that was the only thing I noticed being directly affected, things like swimming and so on that 3D era games had problems with are not. Hell in San Andreas you could even occasionally slit your own throat with the knife if you unlocked your FPS.

Shit taste

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I would want this.