PC building

Anons, I have a budget of 400$ and I want to build a new PC. I always heard faggots saying you can build a decent PC with 300$ so I might as well give it a try, but I don't even know where to start, so considering that, I came to ask for some help. I have to buy everything from scratch, and my main focus is a good graphic card and, of course, without bottle necks. Any recommendations?

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PC gaming is a meme, especially now
RAM is overpriced
GPUs are overpriced

No exclusives
Shit ports

Don't fall for PC meme user

I couldn't give a shit about new releases, but I've always wanted to put setting to max in any game without giving a shit about it, and that includes emulators.

>>>Holla Forums

Seems nice at first but doesn't take long to realize why the emulators that focus on accuracy over pretty effects are best.

Right, my apologies.

Done.

And by that point you're thinking about how it would be better on original hardware.

pcpartpicker.com/list/4W8pyf
I was dying inside while building this.
It might catch fire and should mostly work.

Literally the only games in existence worth playing are PC exclusives. All the decent strategies, all the decent RPGs, all the decent ARPGs, all the decent sim games are all only on PC.

I don't deny that, but again, I just want to max everything and don't worry about it melting my PC. Dolphin is pretty good for "pretty effects", and I don't think up scaling 3D models and textures is that bad on accuracy, at least on Dolphin or N64.

Don't worry, if I die in a fire for my own stupidity, that would be alright. Shame for the neighbors, though. Add a fire alarm in there too.

What PC exclusives?
Umhhh…Overwatch,PUBG,Dota,LoL,CSGO?
Strategy games that 10 people play?

Wait until the fad of Mining wears out.

Shit, I forgot that. But any names to keep in mind like what this user did?

Consolecuckery is a disease

This is decent
RAM is overpriced though and you shouldn't cut costs on the PSU or MOBO.
Get 8GB of DDR3 for half the price and add those 40 bucks towards a better PSU and MOBO


-Total War
-Endless Space/Legend
-Firepro Wrestling
-Bannerlord
-Ultimate General
-Age of Empires 4
-MechWarrior 5
-Wargame
-Touhou
-XCOM
-Planet Coaster
-Cities Skylines
-SQUAD
-Arma
-Dominions
-Ruiner
-Dead Cells
-Hollow Knight
-Divinity Original Sin 2
-Dusk
-Xenonauts
Thats besides mods, TC or otherwise, emulation and old native games.
Now go play Horizon Zero Dawn, I heard you cuckchanners love Burchoos game.

Mining isn't going to affect Ryzen 3 1200, GT 1030, 400W PSUs, A320 motherboards, or 4GB sticks of RAM.

High end motherboards, high end power supplies, mid range graphics cards, mid range RAM sticks, mid range CPUs. Those all get slammed. Global RAM shortage affects the small sticks and low end GPUs but not as much as directly using them for mining does.

post more qt mechanic girls, OP

DDR3 is going to push you to previous gen CPU and motherboard and those are about as expensive and much worse performance. DDR3 can not replace DDR4 in a build. You must use a different processor and different motherboard.

Is DDR4 the standart already?

lol

pcpartpicker.com/list/f6fXTH
To prove my point here is a total hunk of shit with much lower performance for $5 less

Jej

I fucking HOPE you are not going to use windows 10, OP

its an argument, your list of games are indieshit with 2 hour of low quality content or literal who games that only appeal to niche audience

PCfats are delusional

I lack resources but I'm not stupid. I'm going to use W7 because Linux makes me feel uncomfortable

Regardless, MOBO and PSU seem to be too low of a cost to be of quality or have too high time of life.

cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=1782&cmp[]=3029
fuck, CPU is a tossup. Single thread much worse on the FX-8320, overall better due to more threads. In gaming the Ryzen 3 1200 is going to pull ahead because games don't use that many cores, although that may change.

Sub $400 pile of shit I threw together in 4 minutes. If you want a decent computer you are looking at $600-$700.

Predictable
Enjoy your ban

Not long ago, people used to say: build your own, it's cheaper. But now, the protip is: don't bother. Just buy a refurbished Dell i5 from Newegg or whatever, and add a good video card, say, a GTX1060. This way you'll get a very solid gaming rig for $400-500.

I know, but even with that budget range I think a better PSU and MOBO would be better.
And not much higher, like 20 bucks for each component would suffice.

pcpartpicker.com/list/HGZVhq
decent and $700

Stop

The Node 202 is the best case designed specifically for housing a gaming pc ever made.

Just ignore him, ever notice how buyer's remorse fags went away for a period of a few years on this board (back when it was still on cuckchan iirc) and are now mysteriously back? Pure cohencidence. Ignore the shills. Next he'll say that the PS1 port of Doom was always better than the original DOS and later WIN95 release.

Is this ASUS any good? I heard ASUS is only good for motherboards.

It's ASUS GeForce® GT 1030 2GB GDDR5 low profile

don't even bother with such a low budget. wait till you have around double as much.

Also, I found this offer and I might as well buy this prebuild plus the card as some other user suggested.
-Intel Core I3 3.9 GHZ 7ma
-Motherboard H110 Intel (Core I3,I5,I7)
Doesn't offer much else because they seem to be retards, so I'll have to check out for myself.

Maybe.

you're going to get what you pay for, and what I mean by that is you're gonna get a console-tier pc for that money

I'll give you the best advice, user; when looking for parts, start with the motherboard, then look up RAM, CPU and GPU, make sure they're compatible, to make sure of this you must get your attention to the socket for the CPU, the DDR for RAM, and the slot for the GPU (although everything uses a PCI express slot these days), and don't forget to use custom installation when installing the drivers or you'll end up with software bloating your hard drive

PC gaming is shit

Not really
pcpartpicker.com/list/

copy the permalink url under current part list

under the big block of text that says "current part list"

Important tip: most games are GPU-heavy. This means you're better off getting a modest CPU + a badass GPU than the other way around.

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Whoops, my bad
pcpartpicker.com/list/LtZVhq


No it isn't
8GB is still the standart

You will regret getting 8 GB. Play one game then open up a web browser to look up the wiki and you go hard into page file.

No it's fucking not, grandpa. There are so many games now where you can't even play them with a browser open at the same time because it will just crash when it runs out of memory.


Problem with that is GPU prices are still ridiculously expensive thanks to mining. They've been fluctuating a shitload recently, though.

8 is the absolute minimum and 16 is the standard, get with the times.

Oh these casuals.

Adjust your page file, you mong. Don't just leave it at Microcock's default or "recommended" settings. It should be at LEAST 1:1 with your RAM, if not slightly higher.

Cards like that are so underpowered it's like throwing money away. Figure a modern console plus 'paid online' over the years you use it comes to around $800 and then design for that more realistic spec.

Nigger, I had a 50gb page file and was still crashing when running out of memory. Not every game can handle running over into page file. You definitely don't want games using the page file anyway.

What is, 1999?

I'm sorry, but I have 16GBs of RAM and who the fuck does that? I never run shit in the background while I'm trying to run a game. Maybe it's just a personal holdover from back when I still ran Windows XP with 512 MB of DDR2 and a 5200 spinner but still when I'm running a game I do NOT want shit running in the background to eat into potential performance. Shits just retarded yo

Crashing is the least of you're problems holy shit


For a lot of cheaper mobos 16GBs is still the maximum supported AFAIK but that might only apply to laptops

Uh, if you're using Windows you're still using a page file. They call it "virtual RAM" now.

Windows comes with a very small default size, yet recommends 1.5/1 of your actual RAM. More than that and you start getting crazy errors/crashes that you wouldn't happen otherwise.

No, they still call it a page file and have always called it a page file. They've also called it "Virtual Memory" since like fucking Windows XP

The *nix world calls it SWAP

Also, why don't you retards just have Windows automatically manage page file size? No, I don't mean sticking to the fixed size defaults, I mean enabling automatic page size management. The kernel probably knows a hell of a lot more how much memory it needs than you retards and will never use more than that.

Because if you increase it, you have to restart the PC for it to apply, so it's best to just use the biggest recommended size.
Again, while it recomments about 1.5 times the amount of RAM you have, it comes with a much smaller page file by default, like 25% of the ram.

Is it a bad idea to get parts a little over what I'll need so that they are put to less work and run cooler/last longer?

AFAIK on newer Windows if you set it to automatic then you only have to restart once. or maybe I've just never needed Windows to increase the size for me at all so I wouldn't know

Was under the impression that so long as you're increasing the pagefile, you don't need to restart, since it can always fill up that allocation with new data as it's needed, but to reduce the size of the pagefile you had to restart.

That doesn't sound far off. Still, better let it used the biggest size from the start, no harm done unless you're really hurting for storage space.

Literally everyone.

user, I don't think 50 was even as high as it got. Man Windows 7 was a shit show.

I don't think I've ever seen a mobo that only supports 16. So yeah, that probably only applies to laptops.

32 GB is the lowest maximum that modern motherboards support. They go up to 2 TB of RAM.

I would recommend you to save at least $600 for a good PC but if you MUST only spend $400 this will run fine most games outside unoptimized AAA garbage.

pcpartpicker.com/list/PzKf6X
Remember to research every build advice on your own, don't follow blindly or else you will get burned.

Refurbished server motherboards sure are great aren't they?

im being picky but ruiner and xcom are on consoles

good luck with that if you go for a ryzen build, w8.1 bitches every few hours that mine isn't supported hardware

Windows 10 is the only Windows worth using. It'd be better if you said "I fucking HOPE you are not going to use Windows, OP", but specifying 10 is a bit dumb.

where did the penguin touched you, user-kun?

and a power supply that won't explode within two years.
Seriously, prebuilt PSUs should be considered weapons of war.

Can't use custom PSU with Dell motherboards. Dell PSU and motherboards run on custom voltages and each will fry from using the other standard part. Dell motherboards get fried when you plug a normal PSU into them and regular motherboards fry when you plug a Dell PSU into them. Never go dell.

Also I'm assuming people use Linux because what fucking retard would run Windows 10? You buy modern hardware and you are forced to use Linux. End of story. Go game on something 3 years old if you want Windows 7. It'll be just as expensive and worse performance.

thats fine, if you are running a VM to play old vidya

Oh boy

Sure

If you're going to use a pile of shit, you may as well use the shiniest turd.

This is me, currently not playing anything.

lmao

18

My brother did it, zero real issues. You can disable that nag somehow.

6.1 GB, 3 tabs.

That better porn, you fuck.

in win7?

Yes.

Are you saying that like that's a lot? 10 is like the minimum "everything unnecessary is closed" amount.

at that price just check craigslist.
philadelphia.craigslist.org/sys/d/hp-z400-gaming-workstation/6401880324.html
$200 for:
4 core 8 thread xeon
8GB ram
500GB + 500GB HDD
GTX 760
sell the for $50 and put a GTX 1060 in there and youll be able to play most games at 1080p at high settings or better

>48 on chrome

M.2 drives as well. I don't need to upgrade anything, but whenever I do it will require me to get a new motherboard because of M.2 and DDR4.


XCOM 2 will crash without one. :^)

sad

I like the PC as much as the next guy but let's not see anyone do it for free.

try to run CEMU without paging enabled and tell me

$300 is a very tight budget but it is possible, try logicalincrements.com/


Stop being cancer user, you fell for a blatant troll and should take this opportunity to learn how to avoid bait.

Just buy an old computer, shit there isn't any new games made after 2007 that's worth playing anyway. Especially not for putting down 400 dollars for it. It's a waste of money, especially since everything is starting to crumble and there is more shitty indie games now than real video games.

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fuck off.

Shit you are literally 4 days late to built a PC.
You will have to wait until maybe Christmas before you can buy parts, certainly at that budget.

don't fucking do this. This is how you end up with a toaster within a year. You'll end up with some 4 core piece of shit like a 2500k and no feasible upgrade path for future games.

If saving cash is really a concern, get an old office PC. Something from 2-4 years ago, you'll hopefully find a 4c/8t i5, 8gb of ram, and at least have some sort of upgrade path. It shouldn't cost you more than $120 to do this. From there, you'll need to upgrade your GPU and PSU and that still keeps things with in the feasibility of the budget.

The $400 build-it-yourself """""""""""""""console killer""""""""""""""" is a meme, and just because it has specs on paper that are on par or better than console hardware, doesn't mean it will even get the same performance. Consoles are hardware devs can spend a lot of time optimizing for. PC hardware isn't because there's a hundred different SKUs and combinations they need to optimize for, so things get a general pass over to make sure it works reasonably. And the bad news? 4c CPUs are on the chopping block for games.

Here build this, it will run most games before 2007 just fine. By the time you get through all the games it can run, you will be able to build another at the this price point but will be much, much faster. The 250 is optional by the way.

pcpartpicker.com/list/LQCG7h

If you wait until you have at least $1k, you can get everything you desire and resell those parts for a decent price down the line whenever you do an upgrade every four years or so to keep up with new software demands. If you buy at a limited budget now, those $400 are gone for good as the parts you buy with that kind of money will be lower spec than what you'd find in a prebuilt desktop PC at Best Buy in a year.

FYI most of those budgets usually aren't including things like monitors, mouses, keyboards

It really depends on how much of the computer parts you can source from stuff you currently have. If you're starting totally from scratch - no peripherals, no hard drives, no nothing - you're not going to get a satisfactory result for only $400 and you would be better off buying a toaster because that's less likely to halt and catch fire.
Figure out what parts you have around; you probably already have a keyboard and mouse, a hard drive in an old computer, maybe you have an old case you can gut and reuse. That's where the real price savings of PCs over consoles comes from: reusing old parts because of its modular design.
If you've got nothing, I recommend finding a decent Optiplex for cheap and sticking a graphics card on the mobo. That should be fine for your purposes honestly. The current RAM shortage and mining price inflation is making buying a la carte a lot less cost-effective than it used to be.

imo anything $400 or under you should just buy everything secondhand, off sites such as craigslist. Look for electronic wholesale stores in your city and so on.
People who go against this are most likely jews or good goys. You can also wait for jewish holidays such as boxing day.
And if you can't put simple shit together you should probably exit this site forever.

Ryzen 5 1600

RX 580 if possible, I don't know how expensive it currently is.

At least 2933Mhz RAM, with 3200Mhz being the max for the Ryzen.

The rest is up to you. For the PSU I'd recommend a Corsair RM550x.

My ocd doesn't allow for more than three tabs open. My ocd isn't too bad right now though, i take pills for it.

Please don't fucking buy a low profile card jesus fucking christ dude. If you can't pay for a proper $300+ card, BUY SECOND HAND. This is like old people tier retardation

dear lord no one buy this

Updating:
These go for a total of $394,87. Unless you plan on buying everything in one go with around $400, which I don't think is worth doing.

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NEVER buy shit like this i swear to god

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Here's your 0.1BTC.

Nigger these two alone are already $400, let alone all the other parts he needs and how expensive high-clock RAM is atm. I just completed a Ryzen 7 1700/RX 580 build and it ran me $1500 total with all the parts and peripherals, and that was with Black Friday and Cyber Monday sales: pcpartpicker.com/list/HZJY4C
Now that the sales are over, this rig costs $400 more. A la carte gaming PCs are dead at the moment because shit's so expensive.

A couple Sapphire RX 580 cards were on sale for $200-250 on Black Friday with one of them selling out within hours of it going live on NewEgg. Now they're back to their $250+ price. OP is better off waiting until the sales around Christmas or next year.

.gif is such an awful fucking format.

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goku gook voice sound awful

You're fucking retarded. Win10 is the most broken piece of shit windows so far. Things that I found just didn't work on win 10 but work on 7: tonnes of older games and other software, any japanese game except the latest ones, HF pAppLoc, connecting a computer to the TV via HDMI etc.
There're also other gems such as
and I know there's shit I forgot about too. I'm not a computer whiz, I can't code and I don't know any of that other meta shit but even I understand that win10 is absolute garbage and that's only after having used it for a few short hours.


tbh, one tenth of a bitcoin is a lot of money. it's like a thousand bucks. that's one rich shill you're talking about

I've found windows 10 to be more responsive and stable than windows 7.
I don't think most people on Holla Forums are
might be the problem.

that's not the problem, strawman. i gave you concrete examples of shit that just doesn't work on win10. it works on win7 after only having used it for a few hours so why not on 10? is the requirement to get anything working on win 10 that you have to use it for at least a thousand hours? what are you even trying to say?

His english voice is also awful and way too high for a strong man character, and actually pretty faithful to the nip version in that respect. You're just used to the dub.

well, I've already tested connecting my win10 laptop to a tv thru HDMI, worked perfectly as an extended desktop and mirrored. Just installed HF pApplLoc 1.2, said my version wasn't supported, so just selected windows 7 from the compatibility menu and it installed without a hitch and now I have the option to run in japanese or japanese as admin. Not very hard. You're really not good at using computers and maybe shouldn't talk about them like you have any sort of authority. Here, I'll follow up with a post from my laptop.

I was using an outdated version anyway. Really, maybe instead of assuming everything sucks try some basic trouble shooting on figuring out how to get it to work? If you're going to be a PC gamer, this should be a natural thing to you. There literally was never a point in time where PC games "just werked." You always had to do some configuring or tweaking to get things the way you wanted them, and some times to even get the games running at all.

Saying this as someone who has vivid memories of getting my soundcard to work in doom in DOS, as a child no less.

The extra money you spend will probably negate this benefit.
Underrated reason, mostly because people generally like the best price-to-performance they can get, but it's nice being able to run games above 60 but capping them at 60, and not having the fans get loud/room get hot as a result.


Not sure about the office PC advice, but pretty much this otherwise; $400 is a little too restrictive for even a decent low-end PC.

Don't buy a gt they are not worth even the 100 dollars they are asking for it. Go full AMD and get an RX series card, they are decent for their price.
Also like this user said do not cheap out on the PSU, I did that for years and ended up having to replace them after like 6 months of use.

you can get an old dell optiplex that has at least a quad core i5, 8gb of ram and a 500gb hdd for $120. Fix it up with a new GPU and HDD and you have yourself a proper, cheap gaming PC that will at least play modern games. Not on max settings, but its not like there's a real difference between medium and max any more. Except 40 frames per second but whatever.

ebay.com/itm/Dell-Optiplex-9010-MT-I5-3570-3-40GHZ-QC-256GB-SSD-500GB-12GB-Win-7-DVD-Office/253271468577?hash=item3af827ea21:g:HsMAAOSwB09YQQgg
bam, thank me later. you now have a PC that is better than most of Holla Forums's 2500K shitters (fx 6300 was always better suck it nerds) Only costs you $100. And an SSD, how sick.

Try and find a better build it yourself. Be smart about these things and you'll save a lotta money.

well, that's great. guess my TV is fucked then somehow. it always connects to my win7 PC but it only connects to the win10 laptop once every few tries. i honestly probably spent over 5 hours trying to just get it to work but it still only tends to connect on some days for some reason. it's great that you got HF pAppLoc to work but can you run even run games where you'd need it? whatever the case, i take back some of the stuff i said, clearly i didn't put enough time into it but i guess that's partly because i didn't have to put any time into it on win7 either. and there're still other things that 10 is bad at. so far you've only covered two of my complaints and as long as the OS isn't actually better, why switch?

to me its about the same. I see the ads on the login screen but not anywhere else? The only annoyance is the occasional forced update but I'll be honest, it's just a mild inconvenience. The benefits in responsiveness and support for new devices makes win10 an easy pick for me.

yeah everything is. Your intel CPU? Not just backdoors, but MINIX. This isn't remotely acceptable, but deluding yourself into thinking Win7 was any better than Win10 in this regard is just stupid. I don't like it, but I sure like being able to connect my phone through USB to my PC. Newer phones don't have windows 7 usb drivers any more.

As for your TV, TV manufacturers have a spotty record of abiding by video standards. Either they do something fucky with it, or they don't interpret the signal correctly when its just a minor variation in something like h/v sync that the TVs software side of things doesn't "get" despite it probably being perfectly within range of processing. Of course, make sure you're outputting from your PC correctly.

Okay guys I'm retarded and have never built a pc before. How do you guys know the parts on pcpicker work together?

That's where you're wrong, cianigger.

Big red warning comes up at the bottom if it doesn't. Try putting two different gpus on the same machine if you want an example.

I have 32geebees so it'd probably be fine. There's no reason to buy really awesome hardware then shit all over its performance to save $60.

Oh I see. Thanks user, I really appreciate that.

Pic related.

DBZ is trash in general.

win10 was a step back from win7. support only continues because goys can't stop buying these fucking dogshit devices and even if they didn't it's becoming increasingly clear that devices that don't measure some degree of telemetry and demopgrahics data are going to lag behind. we're all slowly becoming portfolios filled with thoughts and trends and paychecks that need to be spent on stupid shit and quite honestly it irks me. the idea that some fucking chink or kike company knows more about my future dependencies than i do make me want to fuck off to the woods and send anthrax letters to these fucking trogs.

I'm glad people called out those shitty $400 builds with GT 1030 and firestarter PSUs and previous gen hardware. I have no argument they are shit. But someone wanted a PC that ran for less than $400 so I build.

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Anything less than a 1050Ti can't be justified at this point.

Windows is shit, but it's where the games are.

GT 1030 can be justified if you are poor as dirt, only play shitty low demand games like LoL, need a graphics adapter with a long serviceable life.

Numerous integrated graphics on Intel's side outperform it. It's that bad. I don't know if you can hit one of those chips with the cost of a R3 1200 + cheap A320 MB + GT 1030.

For 400 you can build a 1080 gaming PC but it'll chug on certain games and some won't be able to run on high settings.

I'd recommend spending more though.

youtube.com/channel/UCsgnjvCvJZgAdSMMRG_j0cw

Name one. Iris comes close, but afaik Intel doesn't have anything that could outperform a 1030.

Hardly, the only one that comes close is Iris Pro.

videocardbenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=3757&cmp[]=3436

I fucked up. There is one. I swear to fucking god I saw several integrated ones above it. But now that I look again, nothing.

most new games coming out need win10 and dx12, so I recommend dual booting. unless somebody comes up with a better way.

Name 8 games that actually require windows 10 and dx12.
Then try to name one that's even worth playing.

I wish regular anime had better animation, man.

Holla Forums is nogames

Pleb


Sure


Sure thing

This. Only shit games run on DX12. Everyone is already pissed of with DX. Not even the DirectX box can run it. If only one OS only a few use can run it and it has no REAL advantages, why shouldn't devs just switch to Vulkan?
I'd still recommend Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB!

I'm just waiting for the Ryzen APUs to come out so I can put together a Loonix PC.

Or the Intel CPU Amd GPU chips they're making for Apple if any of those make it to a desktop platform.

I have no idea why you would put Linux on a modern PC. There's still tons of backdoors on x86 alone, why you would shaft yourself on games while at the same time larping as a cybersecurity consultant is beyond me.

Youre buying at a time when both RAM sticks have high prices due to some flood in a factory or somesuch, and at a time where GPUs sell for double its worth thanks to faggot bitcoin mining asswipes.

Id hold off if I were you. I'm basically in the same positition, waiting for prices to drop before I buy a new GPU. My 7950 died a few months ago and now im stuck with my old 5850.

Go to Logical Increments and use that to build a pc, its what i did and it rates the parts based on quality and cost and what they work well with.

jesus christ, your OS is bloated
this is me with 70 palemoon tabs 12 chromium tabs, and a media server running. 8gb is fine for a typical gamer, 16gb is good to have, but not necessary.yes I am autistic

You better do something more useful than just play videogames, because otherwise you've wasted a lot of money.

how does your task manager look so nice?

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it's a windows 7 theme called exon dark. I found it on deviant art ages ago
deviantart.com/art/Exon-by-BladeMight-648544389

I program, and compilation is CPU-bound and parallelizable. Also, I'm probably going to replace the CPU and mobo the least frequently (knock on wood) so it doesn't hurt to get something future-proof.

Not anymore. RAM alone will go for 70$ today alone so good luck with making anything decent.
R3 1200 will go for about 100, 1050Ti or RX 550 should go for 100, motherboard is 60, case is 20 to 30, PSU that won't catch fire is maybe 40, 8gb of RAM is 70 today. You're looking at 400 bucks minimum and this is a pretty shitty rig. Wait for next year, not worth it with current prices on everything.

the taco voice is way better.

i guess there is some hope for ryzen

I remember RAM being cheap, what happened

Smartphones and virtualization. The entire projected worldwide run of DRAM for 2017 was presold by like March.

production shortages and a lot of production changed to mobile devices. and i dont think prices ever even fully recovered from that tsunami or whatever years ago.

jesus christ

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DDR4, smartphones and smart devices have bought up basically all supplies. DDR3 is cheap, but Ryzen and new Intel processors require DDR4.

USE EBAY
You'll save 3-5 times the price, I haven't bought any major computer components other than cables and storage new in my entire life, and I've had less PCs die than all my gullible goyim friends with warranties that run out in a couple years anyway.

Especially if money is so tight you're considering $300 for a gayman rig, the difference in specs you can afford at a given price is enormous.


This is also a valid approach, but unless you're really intimidated by the prospect of assembling a PC, remember that parts can be extremely cheap too. Also, if you already have a desktop PC of any kind, even a really ancient one, parts like the case and PSU are often compatible with new upgrades.

Probably not. That cancerous alliance was made as a way to fight against NVidia in the Mobile market, if I'm not admirable but mistaken.

Because Windows 10 is shit, and vendors are dropping Windows 7 support on newer hardware (not that "it doesn't work", but more than "it won't work as good as with Windows 10"). Even with security backdoors, I prefer Linux because I can customize it without 3rd party programs, and I can go into configuring my system without having to go through a retarded interface made for touch screens first.
I also play mostly old games, so usually they work right away on my laptop, or have PlayOnLinux/Lutris scripts available.

>thinking you can compare (((computers))) to basic self-protection
Your bloodline is weak, your will is weak, and you will not survive the winter.

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D-DELET T-THIS

They did Nazi the Russian winters being so brutal.

Why is Madobe so cute?

Did they even bother making a Windows 10 waifu anime?

So I bought PC parts over Black Friday so I can build my first PC. I needed it to be portable, so I got a Fractal Design Define S, which has no windows and seems sturdy for travel. It arrived, and it seems good enough, but it's heavier and bigger than I would like. I can refund it no problem, but I have no clue what I should replace it with because there are so many options.
Things I want from a case:
Bonuses:
Any help would be appreciated.

Sturdy = steel
steel = heavy
You aren't going to fight light and sturdy. Fractal Design is your best bet for solid cases. Not sure how durable they are but they are built well.

Yeah, that sounds about right.

Did exactly this about 3 years ago, cept i slapped a 660 in it (though my 1060 is coming in next week). It has faithfully served and plays anything pre 2013 no problem, and most things after that on low settings.

If you want something lighter (2,5kg less) and smaller then go with the Meshify C. Has as much plastic as the Define S. It's function over form though it does have that tempered glass panel that pretty much everything comes with these days.

On second thought, just get a Corsair 270R as a balanced choice. Not as heavy as the Define S but a bit heavier than the Meshify. Doesn't have a sidepanel, is around the same size as the Define S, has almost as good airflow as the Meshify and is of solid build quality.

I don't need something that's only 2 pounds, I just want something smaller/lighter. According to Newegg, the Define S is 22 pounds and 18.31" x 9.17" x 20.94". The Define Mini C is only 15.2 pounds and 16.22" x 8.27" x 16.26", which for me is a pretty big improvement (I would buy it but its max PSU length appears to be 175mm and my PSU is 180, also it's $90 when the Define S was $60).


I checked it out and passed because of the window. If there was an option with a solid side panel I probably would take it, it seems alright.


It's a bit lighter than the Define S, but it's practically the same size at 20.04" x 8.27" x 18.11". I think it wouldn't be too much of an improvement.

What I'm currently looking at right now (I haven't bothered to branch out from Fractal Design yet):

After doing further research, I've discovered the Core 1100 only comes with one fan and doesn't even have top vents, so I'm going to give it a pass. And until I can figure out how to fit a 180mm peg into a 175mm hole, I think I'll have to give up on the Mini C for now. Is it possible that the 175mm limit is an underestimate and there might be 5-6mm of give in the measurement? I'm hesitant to return the PSU because I got a nice deal on it.

So where should I go next after Fractal Design? I looked at Corsair's stuff but all their MicroATX cases have windows. Are CoolerMaster or Rosewill any good for cases?

>go to shit board full of linuxniggers and (((stallman))) dick suckers that sagebomb and refuse to discuss any actual technology
Fuck off.

Don't be retarded. Fucking office computers are being given 16GB now for running browsers and office.


Fuck no, that's "want something better than processor-integrated graphics but still not any good" tier.
And why is a fucking x30 holding 2GB of VRAM when an x60 from just a few years ago only had 1 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


>>/suicide/


Do you even know what those figures mean? Stupid nigger, you're suggesting doing something for the chance of finding something THAT DOES NOT EXIST. i5s DO NOT HAVE HYPERTHREADING. If it's an i5, it's 4C4T EXCLUSIVELY.

This sort of diarrhea post should be bannable. This isnt a chat room you faggot.

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Intel 7600K
Be quiet pure rock
MSI z270-A pro
Crucial Ballistix Sport LT BLS2C4G4D240FSB
Crucial MX300 2,5" 275GB
Seagate Barracuda 2TB
KFA2 GeForce GTX 1060 OC
Corsair Carbide 270R
Corsair VS550
Be quiet pure wings 2x140
SATA Startech, 30 cm 2x
NZXT Sleeved LED Kit, 1 Meter, Wit: 12

How it this for a mid-range PC?

RGB lighting gives you not tactical advantage whatsoever.

Get a new PSU pls that thing has no head room, it's non modular and is only 550 watts giving you no head room for shit. Get a ASRock Z270 Extreme 4 motherboard since you are going for more of a white theme here, that motherboard is also great for overclocking and has led stuff on it. Also on overclocking are you going to be overclocking your cpu at all? If not do not get a K cpu ever as they are not unlocked.

It was supposed to say while lighting, I am not really a fan of RGB stuff.

I thought K were the overclockables?

He's right you sound like a fucking fruit.

I still haven't found a good small case, but I think when my monitor and mouse come in tomorrow, I'll build the computer and see how heavy the whole kit & caboodle is (and make sure everything posts). Would still appreciate recommendations for MicroATX cases, or more info on the Mini C's max PSU size.

It matters whether you want to run DOSbox and only games from the early 00's versus anything new. I haven't bought a game since 2012 because everything AAA beyond that has been crap.


You might want to source the parts from E-Bay, I've gotten some winners from there for cheap too.

Don't use a browser that uses separate processes for each tab you fucking retard. NuFF lets you set a hard cap on that and that also helps.

Chrome, for example, uses something silly like ~60MB of RAM minimum per background tab (often significantly more for the active tab). The idea is to give you better stability but really the rare instance of a crash and having to reload tabs is not worth the inefficiency.

So what's the hot new browser to use that has a decent UI? After Firefoxes update I no longer use it for my work PC.

Good question, I'm still looking at what options there are to swap to myself. I'd go with a FF fork (Palemoon, Waterfox or similar) but those are occasionally abandoned with little warning and have their own issues. You can de-cancer a lot of nuFoF by just disabling shitty features outright, start with their data collection nonsense. I've done this while I decide on something better. It's not great but it's still a fuckton better than Chrome.

Well nuFoF now runs multiple processes and it's been shit on Holla Forums since forever and is superb at draining memory, especially on webm threads. I think I might just go to pale moon because it seems like the new hotness.

FF should come with the option to limit the total number of processes, either in the GUI or by toggling a variable somewhere in the configuration options (search for it). Palemoon is many things but I wouldn't call it new.
I assume you mean nuFF rather than FoF (I can't see why a Sourcemod would be relevant here).

Try about:config then browser.tabs.remote.autostart and toggle all to false. You'll likely have to restart FF afterwards but that should remove the multiprocess nonsense.

I still have no idea what the FUCK they were thinking with Firefox. First they break all but a handful of extensions, then they change the layout AGAIN. These are not smart things to do if you want to keep your relatively small marketshare.
I'd go with Palememe for a similar browser, or maybe qutebrowser if you have that kind of autism.

That's what I've done honestly. Haven't used Pale moon and so far it's not bad. Though I'm getting that blurry text bug that I get whenever I boot up word and I still don't know what addblock app I should use because ublock origin's doing its job but I can't use it to block elements on any page.

Setting aside whether or not they were right to do it in the first place (there are, at least, some valid security issues with the older style of extension) the actual extension changeover itself was about as well handled as something like that can be (lots of warning to devs etc). The only major mistake they made was disabling the ability to opt-in to continued use of 'legacy' extensions (still doable in the dev branch of FF) to force users to move, that's just fucking petty. Hell even relegating it to an obscure change that the average retard wouldn't be able to do would have kept the users who actually care happy without causing issues.
This was retarded though as was the suspicious re-enabling of all the cancer features if you'd disabled them. Most of the UI changes were designed to make users think the browser was faster without it actually being faster, there's a post on their shitty blog that details that though I don't have a link to hand. This goes from big things like 'loading' a page quickly but it actually not being useable until real loading finished ~5 seconds later to even little things like changing the tab loading indicator from a spinny-wheel to a side-to-side bar because it's harder to see when FF is hanging.

If Pale moon fucks up I'll either come back to Firefox or just fuck off in favor of something else. Don't they share data though?

Firefox or Palemoon? Firefox's data shit can be disabled (at least as far as I know), I don't know much on Palemoon's current state other than furry memes but I seriously doubt it does anything like that.

Fair enough then. It's not like I want people to know about my horrible hand holding fetish so I generally go out of my way for privacy when I'm not on my work station.

Alright this fuzzy text shit's getting annoying. Does anybody else ever have this issue? If I scroll around it's usually fixed for a bit but then it's usually back to fuzz. I think it's a broader issue because this issue persists on other software. Pics related are what I'm talking about.

If you're really worried about that type of thing get a VPN.

No idea what that is but it's probably not good. Perhaps ask Holla Forums.

I am planning on upgrading mine.
Does someone know how I get cheap DDR4 RAM which costs below 200€?
Currently the RAM is the most expensive in my upgrade… even more expensive then the CPU i want to buy.

I've been to cheap for a VPN but I'm likely going to get one before the month is up. I'll look around more for the fuzzy text issue though. I think it has something to do with my video drivers.

Seems like a good place to start looking, I'm afraid it's beyond my knowledge. Again I'd say go ask Holla Forums, worst case they'll bully you a bit.

Think I got it. After several hours of troubleshooting it was a browser issue that also persists on other software because of similar functions. I'de make a thread on it on another website for posterity if it wasn't already there. Just gotta make sure this shits unchecked.

Ah, good work user.

Bump. Holla Forums needs a little Holla Forums tbh.

When are prices gonna be not fucked. GPUs seem to be almost okay, but maybe that was just seasonal sales.

I have a budget of 600 saved up buckaroos, what can I build? This toaster I have is killing me.

Depends on what you want to get out of it.

Uh you know, videogames like Dark Souls 3.

Get a decent CPU. You should probably be more specific though honestly and do SOME research on what's available before you post. As it is nobody knows if you want a sizable drive space or what.

Use Waterfox. Literally a clone with no pozz

Where's the poptart?

Some things to keep in mind:

If you have a 1080p monitor, don't even look at buying a graphics card new. Get a used 900-series card or rx480 from ebay.

An SSD only needs ~80GB to be big enough for your OS and programs, and 1TB HDDs are dirt cheap nowadays. When your HDD gets full, you can always upgrade, or buy a larger external drive to back your games up to and uninstall the ones you're no longer playing. Never keep games you aren't currently playing regularly on your HDD.

Don't waste your money on shit like LEDs or "gamer" keyboards. Rosewill, Coolermaster, and Filco all sell great mechanical keyboards without gamer branding or flashy bullshit that are usually a good $30-$40 cheaper than Razer shit.

Unless you're video editing or multitasking like crazy, 8GB RAM is going to be more than enough for a gaming PC.

Which fox is he talking about? I just moved to Palemoon.

Must be hard to walk with this wrench embedded in her ass.

I'd embed my wrench into her ass

I upgraded my FX 6300 to FX 8320. When I try to OC it, my power becomes unstable. As in, it wakes up automatically from sleep mode and requires power cycling to recover from hibernation. Don't tell me my 650 watt PSU needs to be upgraded. Right now, I'm stuck at 3.5ghz when my previous CPU can reach 4.1ghz.

That's a retarded build. Instead get an old quad core Dell for a hundred bucks from Ebay and find a $250 graphics card (a 1060 if you're lucky, more likely a 1050)

This is me, currently not playing anything.

don't use crappy web browsers

Is there an official recommendations list for keyboards? I've yet to find a suitable replacement for a Logitech K120. I don't want to upgrade to mechanical because there's no fucking way I'm spending that much money on a goddamn keyboard. I just want maximum practicality for as little as I can get.

That must be slow as fuck for vidya. Gamedevs cannot into cores.

CPU isn't all that important. And look at the cache size

There's no point to having that much cache on a system that isn't going to use much ram. And I'm still betting it will be incredibly slow in games, especially Unity games that are very hard on the CPU due to the GC.

a decent cheap keyboard i got as a gift was an azio something or other. it's got a volume knob and some LEDs and zero other gamer(TM) shit, costs around 40 canacuck dollarydoos

Azio Levetron L70?