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Why does this movie look like it's been trapped in development hell since 2008.
Film is too shit to stand on its own.They talk up how much tech they had to put into the water to make it look realistic. When the fucking fire folk are hyper stylized flames. What the hell?
>>137644420>WhyThey are parodying their other films: Turning Red, Brave, Wall-E and Soul.
>>137644420If the point of the film is to be an allegory for WMAF, what is the point of the other two characters?
I want to drown in Wade's ass
>>137644543This triggers the IGN
>>137644460catering to the youth demographic
>>137644420Fitting how the top two main characters are referencing other mediocre Pixar movies.
>>137644560The question is why, though. Can they not market this movie on its own without having it reference other, better movies?
>>137644737They are. This item is an exception. Do you honestly believe they are marketing this movie completely on their previous films? Like seriously? I cannot stress how much this is not a rhetorical question
>>137644744They never had to market their other movies in this way, so yes I do believe that they think the movie can't stand on its own and going the memberberries route.And we still don't even know what the fuck the movie is about, so likely it's a directionless romcom.
>>137644420That dirt boy is made for the BBB (Big Burning Butt)
>>137644751Pixar is shamelessly self referential, user. All of their movies, literally every one, contains a reference to another Pixar movie
>>137644802In the movie itself, not the marketing.
>>137644812So we agree; the actual content of their films doesn't stand on it's own?
>they couldn't stand the heat of the banter and had to delete the tweetlmao
>>137644420I'm starting to feel bad now. They're trying so hard to generate interest.
>>137644751I mean I’d argue lightyear was marketed the same nostalgia bait way. >described as “the movie Andy grew up with”>promo art of Andy bringing his toys to watch the movie
>>137644993And that movie was stinker, too, with every new trailer they added just made the movie even less interesting. I'm seeing a trend here.
>>137644984Meanwhile at Ghibli…>literally all the promo you’re getting until release date
>>137645016>guys let’s make a movie based off a parody franchise of Star Wars>let’s not use the source material and instead make a boring sci-fi film It’s like if they made a mermaid man and barnacle boy film.
>>137645065Pixar used to feel like they had that kind of pull 20 years ago, where you could know fuckall about what movie you were getting but still be guaranteed a quality experience
>>137645196That's why people who say that Elemental is a new IP so should expect low opening weekend is just coping. Pixar was the brand and had original IPs all the way and everyone just assumed it was going to be good.Now we're not so sure anymore.
>>137644543man, i miss miiverse
>>137644420THIS HAND OF MINE IS BURNING RED
The Art of Disney Pixar Elemental YouTube Screencap Storytimeyoutube.com
>>137644953Fuck I forgot this was an edit for a second so the joke didn't make sense.
>>137645348IT’S LOUD ROAR TELLS ME TO GRASP VICTORY
Usually I can pick out something in concept art that looks cool, but here...
>>137645815I like this pic. Movie could have been a succees if they tried harder with the visuals
>>137644737>Brave>betterLol no.Brave was shit, and Elemental looks like it would probably be better than Brave, which isn't all that hard to do.
>>137644460This, they have to sell it by using the marketing of other movies. Its pathetic.>Soul>SoilOh because the cast is brown? Haha good one Disney.
>>137645065This is exactly what A24 did for Darren Aronofsky's The Whale.And also what Apple TV+ and Paramount are doing with Martin Scorsese's Killers of the Flower Moon.Ghibli has always been more of an arthouse studio than even most of their peers in anime.
>>137646697And also what Wong Kar Wai did with Fallen Angels.
>>137644611fire girl is def supposed to be a mexican, and it goes straight into the sterotype of fiery latina.water guy has black guy hair i think and is voiced by a black dude but acts like one of those childish gambino geeky black guys so i can't really tell what hes supposed to be.
>>137645871they should have done something more stylized, this looks nice
>>137645921why does she look more like fire in the 2d?
>>137646086Poor Wade was always ugly
>>137644543You think he’s gushing over Metroid Prime’s water rn?
>>137644420...are they implying the dirt people are black?
>>137644420>>137644460>>137644737NNNOOO THIS AD CAMPAIGN OFFENDS ME NNNOOO!Listen to yourself, Jesus.
>>137645807>>137645815>>137645820>>137645829>>137645840This looks so cool and interestingIf the movie had been a 2D film with an interesting aesthetic (the concept art has a lot of scribble lines, watercolors, messy paintings, a storybook feel) this could have been so exciting and it would have made the movie special. Instead they took that concept art and turned it into the most generic, ugly CGI because western audiences still refuse to go see a animated movie that is not CGI (or so Pixar feels)
Also, the concept art is pretty indicative of the problems of the movie. MOST of it is buildings and cities. This movie is just a collection of concept art and ideas of the world. Pixar has been doing this way too much.I get that your world and cities are clever, but I don't give a shit. I want stories focused on characters. I don't care how the afterlife works and the crazy rooms it has, I don't care about the architecture of your alien planet, I don't care about the complex layout of the water city. Work on the characters.
>>137648152>NOOOO>YOU CAN'T CRITICIZE THE HECCING MARKETING DEPARTMENT!>STOP HAVING OPINIONS ON THINGS!!>LISTEN TO YOURSELVES!What made you think you were even remotely in the realm of having a point? It looks bad. People are allowed to say as much.
>>137646415Thank you for sharing user
>>137646415Thanks for sharing.A lot of work went into the art of the movie but they sure missed the mark.
>>137645829>>137645834>fire people are based off the artists korean backroundThats at least somewhat interesting and actually is something compared to "what if water was sad"Now I kinda wonder if the other elements are based off other races
>>137646316>balding at 20
>>137645840even as concept art, the designs all run together, especially for the water people. there's nothing intriguing about how they're different
>>137644611It's Asian Female - Black Male.
>>137645065what's wrong with marge?
>>137649013Yeah the entire project is just lifeless from the ground up. You have to TRY to be this bland.
>>137644420>turning red is set in canada>unleash your wildfireFucking LOL based disney dunking on canucks
>>137644420Every clip I've seen makes it look worse. I almost want to go see it just to see how bad it is, but I'll just wait for it to come out on streaming.
>>137644654Based water enjoyer
>>137645073>It’s like if they made a mermaid man and barnacle boy filmA mermaid man and barnacle boy movie played completely straight like TDK would be unironic kino
>>137646236That's a cute display of panic in the Splash zone.
>>137645065Is that a new robot master
>>137648232>how the afterlife worksIs this in reference to Soul or Coco
>Elemental is up to 70% on rotten tomatoes nowShills are coming in right on schedule
>>137648870It's gonna be hilarious when people find out which race dirt is based on. I can already see the racism accusations.
>>137644420Ah yes, the four classical elements.RedIrishWallSoul
>>137644420Not surprising, they've been doing this since Inside Out
>>137649517Watch it get a great audience score somehow.
>>137644420Does anyone know who started that "movie poster parody" trend in animation?I think it was Zootopia
>>137649820Cars, I think
>>137644420Where is the mega
>>137649586It's pretty inoffensive so I can see a lot of people rate it 6/10
>>137644420Simple basic silhouttes.This movie is a new low for pixar.
>>137649820>>137649932Well, Lilo & Stitch did the "steal the trailer" parodies.youtu.be
>>137644737If this movie is worse than Turning Red that's a fucking accomplishment.
>>137644420>Burning Red I guess that fixed Mr Enter's issue with the movie
>>137650103that was so cool back in the day
>>137645065Hasn't ghibli been extremely mediocre lately?
I don't mind this type of marketing. I liked when Disney has done it before. But if I don't like Elemental or the characters it's like being told a good joke by the most hated retard in the office.
>>137646415They have good artists, I'd buy a children's picture book from any of them. The script and the movie though, it's unsalvageable.
>>137644420>No tits on the girlsPass
>>137650418>You just know...
>>137644611>>137647042Fire is supposed to be East Asian and is voiced by an east Asian woman. Everything about her is supposed to be East Asian according to the creators. So it makes sense that water guy is a Black guy because he's voiced by one
>>137647603The water guy might be black
>>137644778Lol last thread got deleted and couldn't finish this one on time
>>137649820>>137649932>>137650103At least Zootopia posters are kino.
>>137650334yesbut ghibli has always been mediocre on it's own, its haio miyazaki who had the magic
>>137649013>>137645840This outside of the protagonist everyone else is just too round
The race of these elements is whatever the viewer wants it to be. It really doesn't matter
What does Holla Forums even want from Pixar anymore? Don't be glib about it. State exactly.
>>137644420I don't get the wave one. Which movie is that?
>>137651444Amazing. You have no idea what you are talking about.
>>137651761I can only speak for myself, but a good movie would be nice.
>>1376517611. Abandon the safe "Grubhub" art style and let artists experiment more2. Drop the "absolutely everything must be emotional" mantra3. Stop letting people make movies about their shit lives and personal issues4. Stop doing the "what if X lived in a city made for humans" thing, it's beyond overused
>>137651854I said not to be glib about it.
>>137651761I want to watch a movie where I'm not watching the writers vent about their parents or perceived injustices of modern society.And yes, it's doable. Puss in Boots TLW made me feel like a kid again--something I just don't get with any Disney movies anymore.
>>137644420Out of touch marketing team
>>137652105Ah shit i meant mexican
WE'RE COMING BACK BROS
>>137651914A little smug perhaps, but not glib. I'm just being honest. If the movies ended up being good none of the other nitpicks would matter. An autist can criticize Ratatouille the same way they can Lightyear, but the former is exceptional in so many ways the latter isn't.You're insane if you want a "concrete" answer for what's an opinionated medium, but if my answer wasn't what you wanted, then maybe it's the wrong question to ask. I don't want anything from Pixar anymore, because the Pixar I like no longer exists. It would be great if current Pixar had some sort of interesting identity to attract people with, but they haven't proven that with film after film. It's just any other studio now. What I really seek is something like Cartoon Saloon where they have an undeniable uniqueness to them, or individual creators like Peter Ramsey and Adam Elliot whose works I just enjoy following. There's nothing like that at Pixar.Thoughts?
>>137652161YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!THAT IS NOT OVER! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!
>>137644778this tqbh famm
>>137652328So is the fire town supposed to be a shithole of the city?
>>137652328>Flame, gotta go.Hey, Elemental is uh, pretty bad at world-building.
>>137644543I fucking love water
>>137652533>black guy looks at his watch>nigger! gotta run!
SHALOM, PLEASE LITTLE GIRLS REMEMBER PLEASE YOU MUST FUCK BLACKS WHILE YOU'RE STILL YOUNG, ONCE YOU GO BLACK YOU NEVER GO BACK, MADE FOR BBC, OOGA BOOGA, DON'T MARRY A WHITE MAN OR MARRY WHEN YOU'RE 45 AND YOUR WOMB IS DRY AS A DESERT FULL OF NIGGERS OKAY????
>>137648152>NNNNNNNOOOOOOO DIDNEY IS SO OPPRESSED THIS IS MOUSE GENOCIDE NNNOOO!Get a grip, shill.
>>137652328>"elements don't mix">Earth kid clearly enjoys getting dowsed with waterDid the writers only do one draft? This is fucking awful.
>>137652869earht absorbs water, a water elemental would get stuck inside his body
>>137652601>indian looks at his watch>Shit! Gotta run!
>>137652661*licks the tears off your cheeks*delicious
>>137649013>water people>run togetherlol
>>137645866Wait a minute. This movie takes place after 9/11?
>>137650334Yea. I hope they make another WW2 movie. This time about how they were actually really nice to Korean comfort women. “They were called comfort women because they were so comfortable.”
>>137651166Would this character be nsfw if she didn’t have clothes on?
>>137653052Fire is frequently not safe for work.
>>137650103That was sick though.
>>137644543Crummy Water? He should be looking at Pokemon creatures instead!
wish this shit was 2d these models arent TOONY ENOGHT and awfull to look
>>137651444That's not true, because the man responsible for the best Ghibli films (Grave of the Fireflies, Only Yesterday, and Tale of the Princess Kaguya) is fucking DEAD.
>>137652317WE COULD WIN THE BOX OFFICE BROS
>>137651456this is how i feel about real life
>>137651761Make a movie set during the titanic, on the titanic, but once the ship begins to sink, they end up going throughout time and have to find out how to get home/on shore, they see many places and times, like Rome, the Chinese dynasty, WW2 Pearl Harbor, The golden age of piracy, and even modern events as well, with confusion/conflict galore, make them stranded at a rock concert near the battle of Stalingrad, because of the timeline being wonky, eventually, there’s a scene that has the titanic flying though some timeline portal thing, and the characters are talking and shit, before they think they are safe at a clear bright sunny day, at the beach, but the place is extremely empty, silence happens, someone points out the strange setting, before octopus monsters/krakens raise the dead, and they come from the sand and chase the protagonists, being skeletons with pirate/summer clothing, before the titanic ends up sending them to a different place, but that’s when space cowboys on their robot horses come with phasers and lasers and attempt to attack both the undead pirates and the protagonists when it becomes the most unstable, with different places and timelines and shit connecting, planes, jets, speedboats, submarines, cars, and everything in between comes in a huge action scene that involves so many factions it’s confusing, before it all implodes and causes the reverse of the Big Bang, we can only hear the whispers, the whispers that grow slightly more, and more and more, getting louder and louder, before they become extremely loud, and a huge explosion of light and colors comes, and we see as the universe begins again, the title screen comes up, THE END>>137650334>>137651444>>137651873>halfway through writing this, I realized this was a job for ghibli lol, I’m not even sure what this is about, maybe just a spurge, or a good concept
>>137652907can't she just p- okay let's not go there
>>137644420Soulless copy of Zootopia
>>137652869I don't get why everyone's so hung up on that every time the webm is posted. That's a denial to a pick-up line from the perspective of a fire elemental, not an infallible narrator establishing facts for the entire world's setting.
>>137653543Why did you quote me? Nothing in my post is about ghibli.
>>137653644The movie's entire premise is that elements don't mix. She's just reiterating to him this rule that society has because he's a stupid kid who doesn't know better.
>>137652869>Incels don't understand being let down easylmao
>>137646431the story and the world itself are just boring, visuals can't save these movies anymore
>>137654042Doesn't help they look like glorified realgrafix demos.
>>137645834>Just more proof that diversity makes everything better.Stopped reading there.
>>137655001"We want the modern audience that pirates everything"
>>137645875>>137645881Why would the air people even need buildings with access to ground level? They could literally just live in an upper layer that doesn't need to exist like traditional skyscrappers do, but because they want the city to look like NYC they just make NYC with a few quirks.
Only thing I care about is fire girl's hips are crazy. Like god damn.
>>137652328>It'd take an act of God>GodNow I have more questions.
>>137644420Aesthetically it just does not look good.And I say that as someone who enjoyed Turning Red and thought Lightyear looked decent despite having a weak script.Elemental just looks off.
>>137655423Their God is made of Aether, the primordial element.
>>137644993>Andy actually brought all his toys to a theater>A slogfest like Lightyear actually getting a kid excited compared to the cartoon series>A lesbian kiss getting through in a kids movie back thenLightyear was a mistake.
>>137644420>Soil>Black people are brown>Dirt is brownWtf Disney, dats racist
>>137655423Come on, it’s very simple Captain Planet is their god
>>137655475So when ember and wade kiss instead of them dying it creates the first Heart element and the world enters a new era of harmony.
>>137650103Why is Jasmine looking at him like that??
Soul was a good movie.
>>137655826So were Luca and Turning Red IMO.Lightyear was weak and Elemental will probably be shit (looks bad + Good Dinosaur director), but I still think Pixar can recover. They've never had a perfect record.
>>137655826The other main character besides the main dude was a little too obnoxious at times.
>>137655947>Movie I don't remember name of>Inside out 2>Toy Story 5, when 4 was already a hard sellOnly the first one gives me some hope, its gonna take a while.
>>137656012It was kinda the point, he was so hard to work with and his development is part of the point the Film tries to make about purpose.
>>137656036I think Inside Out 2 could be good if it has a completely separate story and cast but just with the same basic concept (anthropomorphized emotions). It needs to take risks. If it's too iterative it could get boring.
>>137646248>>137646263she gets naked in this?
>>137656307even if they're too scared to do that making it about the boy from the first movie could be okay
>it's another racism allegory where the setting makes racism 100% justifiedliberals are so fucking bad at allegory to the point they accidentally make fascist propaganda
>>137655423>Now the creation took up the whole of each of the four elements; for the Creator compounded the world out of all the fire and all the water and all the air and all the earth, leaving no part of any of them nor any power of them outside.
>>137650334Ghibli was always mediocre except for Nausicaa and Laputa
>>137656435Don't think about it goy just look at the pretty/expensive CGI and get the Oscar for best animated movie ready
>>137644420This a is joke, right?
>>137657404It's not pretty though, it might end up being the ugliest movie Pixar has ever made. No idea how no one at the top stopped and said "this kinda looks like shit, start over".
>>137652328He looks like a piece of shit with a giant piece of corn for his nose.
>>137645914she so cute
>>137646164>driving around dead tree peoplekinda messed up
>>137646193I wonder how many times they'll do the "ember gets angry and burns everything" joke
>>137644543you just know this guy hasn't seen a tint of yellow in his piss his whole life
>>137646380Didn't they say that Ember's fire was emotional, so it doesn't immediately burn everything she touches? but here it immediately evaporate's wade's water on contact?
>>137651761Innovation.Pixar pigeonholed themself into the MUH 3D GRAPHICS mold and they're now chasing pre-existing animation trends, meanwhile there's a renaissance happening in every studio except theirs.The "what if fantasy concept but...it's an office!" shit also has to stop, it's in like 10 movies now.
>>137651761>stop doing shitty sequels>come up with better movie concepts and settings>try out new animation techniques instead of just doing realistic textures and the same derivative designs
>>137651761I want hacks who make bad movies to not be given more opportunities to make more bad movies.Elemental's director/writer made The Good Dinosaur, Pixar's worst movie, that should have been enough to can him or at least demote him to the basement.
>>137651761I just want it to be as consistently good as it used to be. The charm, the insight that makes you reflect on important topics like protecting the environment or handling emotions within a family. But most of all I just want non-boring movies that aren't unapologetic cash cows like Lightyear, which had no buzz.
>>137658655Where'd you pull this image from? It's clearly not a 4chan edit, but seeing criticism of Pixar outside 4chan is unusual.
>>137655423I'm not sure what to think of the elements having religion, but I suppose it's not the first time a religion is in a Pixar movie considering the whole "hell" debacle in I2, or Soul although the latter take an a-religious approach.
>>137658723Well I made it and posted it to 4chan, but I posted it to reddit first
>>137658810How many down doots did you get?
>>137644454Because it was. It's a doorway to something that would have been great if it came out in 2009.
>>137658838It's actually one of my top posts with over two and a half thousand upvotes.
>>137658810That explains it, the lack of complaint about wokeness or niggers or the usual buzzwords made it clear it's meant to avoid the wrath of tranny jannies much more aggressive than the local.
>>137644654Boomers are the undisputed champs.
>>137644420Because Pixar is dying.
>>137658866>All those dootsMan reddit is a spooky place.
>>137655461Haha they wanted you to think it would be a cool mid-90s actual movie for kids born in the 1980s, but instead it was shit, TRICKED!
WHAT IF THERE WAS A MOVIE ABOUT DIFFERENT KINDS OF SHIT AND THEY ALL LIVE IN A CITY MADE OF SHIT CALLED THE BIG SHITTY
>>137658015it's seems more like plants grow on Earthfolk, rather than them bring the plants themselves. It'd be more like making cars out of warts or hair
>>137646236I feel like there are a lot of ways that a lot of people could die in this city, purely by accident
>>137659546The slapstick potential in a darker cartoon would be quite high
>>137653644>>137653736>>137652869The issue with that scene that everyone notices is that she uses "elements don't mix!" as her only reason why she won't go out with the kid. Never does she bring up his age. It's implying she'd actually go out with the kid if he was a fire elemental, ignoring that he's underage.
>>137644420I want to cumblast the fire woman and watch my ropes turn to ash
>>137644420I thought the bottom left was "Wino-E"
What >>137652869 is criticizing isn’t the firebitch saying the statement “elements don’t mix” but the statement itself. It’s the statement saying elements don’t mix but clearly in this world the elements do mix. The movie tries to say they don’t mix and propose that as an issue to this world (or at the least the main character) but the world contradicts that. Like how Incredibles 2 says Supers are hated, but you only get 1 scene of suits yelling at the Incredibles and every other time a Super is shown to the public everyone cheers. Basically, a problem is nonexistent and only exists because the writers tells the audience that they should believe it exists.
>>137661365I am ready for Pixar's depression-era HobokinoRail-ridin, shantytown-livin, listerine-drinkin action
>>137644953I don't really get the reference to the Canada fires/why people were offended. Is it just the word "wildfire"?
>>137644420How fired is Peter Sohn after this movie inevitably underperforms critically and financially? The director and producer of Lightyear got laid off after one bad movie and this guy directed 2 stinkers.
>>137662991He has the race card if they ever want to get rid of him.
>>137645863Shit kinda resembles that Afterlife game from the 90s. Similar scope of "first thing that comes to mind = final conceptual step!".