TF2V, what is it? TF2V is a "pre-mannconomy" version of TF2 without the visual clutter and bloat. The only QoL additions is Pyro's airblast and the Engineer building carry. As well as additions of stock gamemodes such as Payload, KotH and Arena
Development is focused first on bugfixes, If/when that's all done then focus on weapons can be started. However weapons needed to be coded from the ground up, so unless you want to start that for us then don't ask for something not on anyone's radar right now.
Here is how to install revemu on windows, i.e. make it no-steam. Technically this needs to be done once by the guy who releases TF2V for the next version, so that the game will be standalone and run out-of-the-box. But anyone can do it. I have shit upload speed.
In case the link goes down, here is the original source: bir3yk.net/forum/topic_179/. Gonna need full package from 27.04.2016. Then an update from 20.01.2017, it's a single dll, goes into game root.
Start by placing tf2vintage folder in Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer, instead of sourcemods. Now Source SDK Base 2013 Multiplayer can be renamed to anything and placed anywhere, I will be calling it game root.
Optional: fire up the game to make sure everything works by creating hl2.exe shortcut and adding -game tf2vintage. See first pic. You won't need that shortcut after this, you can delete it later.
Extract revemu to game root. Second pic is how it should look like.
Shut down steam and fire TF2V.exe.
That's it, make sure everything works.
You can look through rev.ini. But here are the most important things:
Everything should work as expected. Only no-steam servers will show up in server browser. They also need to have no-steam in sv_tags, if I'm not mistaken.
Hopefully I didn't fuck up. I won't have time to test linux client anywhere soon, so somebody else should do it. Ask here for any advice. Linux revemu: bir3yk.net/forum/topic_180/.
Carter Davis
CURRENT SERVERS Dev user's server 104.228.168.228
Ayden Morgan
There's not an update patch for 2.9.1?
Nathan Martinez
grab 2.9.2
Devanon was supposed to makea lite version but he didn't he needs to start making lite versions without any map folder for any bugfixes
Josiah Bailey
People said they would be shilling this on the official TF2 community or something, any news?
Luke Evans
I have no clue. I didn't hear that. Some people from time to time bring it up. But Never seen any thing recently.
I did suggest at one point people upload videos to the community hub for exposure
Logan Martinez
Well, I'll check the server later I hope.
Eli Gomez
bump
Nathan Ramirez
anyone up to play?
Joshua Clark
when did someone decide to add weapons to this? whats the fucking point of of going through all effort of making 2007 tf2 if you're just gonna add the weapons back in. why not just make a tf2 server with a no cosmetics plugin then?
Angel Morris
the end goal is pre-mannconomy TF2 and has been for awhile now. Where the fuck have you been? probably circlejerking in the TF2C discord because they still seem to think that
Kayden Bailey
Actually, it seems like the current narrative is that it's either A: TF2C without the DM or B: Jury rigged variant of TFPort. They literally cannot comprehend the idea of a third flavor of TF2 existing.
Cameron Gomez
wew
Adam Thomas
Anyone up for playing?
Gavin James
I'll join a bit later, who wants to play?
Christian Garcia
2 PEOPLE ONLINE GET IN HERE
Easton Garcia
I'll hop on a bit later today.
Nathan Gonzalez
4 PEOPLE ONLINE
Henry Powell
Someone needs to shill it on the TF2 community hub.
Jonathan Hughes
There was an attempt but I don't think anyone feels like playing today.
Evan Scott
Is there a post?
Juan Green
Oh no, I just saw a group notification and I jumped in
Ian Morris
They like hats and alt guns too much too play. Plus it's too difficult to install for the majority of people who play tf2.
Luis Russell
where do i enter the ip address
Juan Moore
open console type "connect " with being the UIP address
Justin Turner
Or right-click favorites and slap it there
Mason Brooks
Small bump.
Oliver Mitchell
ded game
Alexander Cooper
we'll play come friday or something.
Noah Martinez
bump
Jaxson Price
why're we not doing anything again?
Dominic Perez
I usually wait for msm to put up a notice via steam group or discord. I'd wait a couple more hours, game usually start rolling at around 3PM PST.
Julian Campbell
bump negated
Nathaniel Gray
Alright fucksticks let's play
Noah Howard
fine jeez
Angel Russell
only 5 people in come on
Justin Baker
nope nebermind :DD
Kevin Ross
FUCK YOU WE'RE PLAYING ANYWAY
GET IN YOU FUCKS.
Benjamin Lopez
3 PEOPLE ON, GET THE FUCK IN OR I'LL REPORT YOU TO POLICE FOR BEING A HOMOSEXUAL ON THE INTERNET
Luis Jenkins
gonna hop on
Eli Jackson
You guys dont know what you are missing. Heres an idea: Rather than trying to play TF2V by ourselves with 3-5 people we should be stomping the shit out of pubs and reddit
Eli Edwards
nah.
Come play vintage. we've got 8 people so far on.
Mason Allen
But m-muh artstyle!
Kevin Garcia
I'm okay with not having to be reminded the dead ringer exists
Benjamin Morris
dead ringer got nerfed into the ground
Jayden Sullivan
so did everything else. the problem is retail tries to cater to 6s
Brody Wood
4V4 ON THE SERVER, GET IN NOW OR MISS FUN
Noah Fisher
was fun ffor the short time we played. Thigns are winding down. Unless I can get devanon to come incognito into that SMC discord or I do so we won't have coders. Still if Vintage is gonna quietly pass away it's better it does that than die from faggotry and drama
John Jackson
I'll try to get the games going on Friday and Saturday, but if people start to quit because wew nogames it's gonna keep dying until it's dead. The matches that we've played so far were miles better than in base game because the semblance of balance is there and you could tell what's gonna happen when you faced somebody faster because there aren't many weapons, thus not much variation. I'd like to keep that going, even if it's gonna be 4v4 on weekends only.
Jonathan Perez
Also, mark my words, the second this mod releases non-stock weapons will be the second it dies - some players will quit because of this and with population this low it'll be fatal. We gotta have as many games going as we can before this happens.
David Green
We still need to fix bugs. adding items is HL3 time away
Angel Parker
I hope that you're right, but only devanon can say this for sure.
Bentley Powell
I think we need to get it done on a single day per week around a persistant time. 'Sometimes fridays, sometimes saturdays maybe later maybe early' throws a lot of people off. And then mention in OP the exact time.
Brandon Wilson
a-anyone want to play some video games?
Thomas Sanders
I'm up for a game.
Ryan Myers
Fuck you. sure
Jose Cruz
we've got 5 players if anyone wants to join
Jordan James
Come on in we've got 3v3
Joshua Parker
Bumping. I've been throwing around the concept of a content update for this month, and I'm considering doing something e-sports related as something small that would add some interest in it. I've also started throwing around another concept with some of the other developers that isn't sticking as well as I thought it would. Trying to decide on what is the best course of action to get more heads outside of Discord.
Joshua Richardson
God, you people are dumb.
Liam Allen
And what do you suggest thast we could do?
Michael Ward
Bump the thread and join the servers and shit, what else?
Landon Turner
nigger you better be joking
Ryder Parker
Not really. Imagine having a 6s mode and highlander mode available with all the content compatible with TF2V. It would be great to have something to get more attention to the game outside of a dozen anons on a knitting forum.
Luke Peterson
I'm probably gonna steam ahed myself and try to head into the SMC discord this week. see if I can get someone to help fix at least the cart overtime and the hill issue.
TF2C tried that ages ago mate. During my digging they tried to hock it to the comp scene and got laughed out. everyone who dare criticized it was a troll. Guy ran back to fagpunch where they consoled him.
Benjamin Hall
They did? I mean there is some things they supposedly did and didn't do. My idea was to only add it as a side thing, not actually make it a focus and have it one of those "oh neat" things.
Elijah Taylor
I got bored and did digging. VERY early on the original creator tried to pan that shit as "esports" TF2 and got laughed out.
No use catering to shit.
Jeremiah Foster
It's probably for the best that this mod isn't associated with compfaggotry anyway. Those niggers don't give a shit about vanilla tf2 to be with.
Brayden Phillips
Does anyone want to play?
Alexander Young
Try Fridays and Saturdays, those are typically your best bet for people playing TF2V.
Asher Rogers
Catering to TF2 compfags would largely go against your original goals for this mod.
Zachary Gomez
Gonna try to head into SMC discord tonight problem is since we have no coders it's gonna seem like idea guys. I mean we've had people help attempt stuff even people who've helped compile the ill fated V3RC1
Nope. Someone has to make one. We have a leaf with BR tier ping that plays just fine though
Owen King
I tried pingtest to the ip in the op and it says 209 ms. I don't think that's gonna be playable at all tbh
Nicholas Hughes
Bilbo plays with us with a ping of sometimes 999 as a scout.
Jaxon Morris
And he uses it to his advantage, the fucker.
Carson Barnes
Still funny watching him pull a goku
Austin Barnes
That's the average ping of everyone, you'll be able to play fine.
John Flores
I didn't know about this. I quit tf2 when it turned into F2P. This is interesting.
Nathan Taylor
Come swing by tomorrow evening, we play games at weekends regularly and chances are there's gonna be a game on Saturday as well. Aside from those matches, TF2V is pretty much dead, but they're well worth the download.
Jason Lewis
Forgot about that. The matches typically start at around 10 PM UTC on Friday, though there could be delays. Saturday is around the same time. Hope that clears things up.
Connor Clark
Just like to let you people know, the internet company has royally fucked up and is blacked out for the entire county for the past five hours, knocking the server offline. I don't know when it'll be fixed, but hopefully it should be up in time for Friday night.
Jeremiah Foster
yeah rip
Jason Williams
I'll host a listen server if it won't be up in time. It'll be painfully horrible, but more or less playable.
Brandon Rodriguez
Pre-mannconomy as in all major class unlocks or just stock with new maps?
Kevin Brooks
The maps and equipment that don't drastically change the class role (sword and board is one that's been said that will never be added) and balancing/tweaking for others done by the dev, presumably. It's going to be a long time until it's implemented assuming TF2V lives for that long so just enjoy it as is.
Hunter Bailey
Posted about it. Devanon is being a defeatist about all this and I'm trying to power ahead but that issue with goycord has fucked mty attempts over
Isaac Long
When do you anons want to play? It's Friday and you should never be busy on a Friday night, unless you're a normalfag.
Jose Butler
I'll play with you whenever you want user
Isaiah Evans
How about in one hour at 6 PM EST?
Daniel Hughes
sounds good
Ian Myers
JOIN NOW THERE ARE PEOPLE PLAYING
Justin Lewis
I'm coming.
Evan Peterson
I want to go get beer first. Soon though.
Isaiah Collins
2v2 come play anons!
Juan Cruz
hardcore 4v4 now niggas
Ayden Smith
7v7 faggots
Wyatt Sullivan
11 people bring more bodies
Aaron Miller
where can i download cp_vanguard
Oliver Flores
we're off it. On Koth_Viaduct now
Jose Bennett
I wish I had recorded that Koth match. That was fucking intense
Good game
Landon Brown
Don't worry, all matches on the TF2V server are automatically logged and recorded for your later use. I archive all replays on Sundays typically.
To use, simply boot up TF2V, then using demoui or demoui2 select the demo to load.
Alexander Allen
bump.
Jeremiah Reed
So I set up a new normalfag containment server. Giving some people mod to keep things under control if this issue crops up again where I lose access to my account.
Brayden Anderson
I feel like the population is dying, and I am blaming the maps on it
Nathan Morgan
people burn out and that's fine. In any case I got into the SMC group and the word is out there
Hunter Jenkins
What's wrong with the maps? I mean I know I'm running pretty vanilla, but what seems to be the problem? I've thrown around some ideas for content but almost all of them were rejected.
Aiden Perez
It gets a bit boring if it's always vanilla maps, having a run with custom ones like mariokart etc once in a while wouldn't hurt
Jose Price
No, fuck right off, minecraft/mario maps are utter cancer. If anything, maps that were added later in the game that aren't complete shit should be played, not maps that 13 year old furries play on.
Oliver Brown
calm the fuck down. You have to realize custom maps aren't just meme maps. custom means made by someone from the community.
Shit like the ghosts of the past map pack is a good example. Its custom maps that were made for the game and meant to be played. The problem is people expect a fastDL server for it so yeah.
would be nice to play shit like CTF_Mach again or CP_Aqua
Isaiah Rogers
I would put the map packs on there if I had a FastDL server to work with, but unfortunately I don't. It's why we're stuck with the vanilla stuff right now.
Elijah Jones
Pretty sure you can set one up on the same server as the server. From what I've learned source has a very shitty limit for filesizes and fastdl just is a work around for it. Either way we've had people download maps from the server before. FastDL just doesn't make it excruciatingly hard.
Samuel Wright
You know base is fucked when in order to get people to play things that aren't DM, they have to use the dumbest OC to try and reel people in to play.
MSM you triple nigger where is the latest version of the TF2V source code I spent the better part of yesterday fixing bugs and shit and I realized some of the problems i was having are because the git has a deprecated version
Jackson Barnes
what are the plans for tf2v
Jaxon Moore
the one in the OP is the latest can you not push updates to it?
My repo is considered non-functioning due to the massive issues with the coding.
Pretty much TF2
Nolan Edwards
The base code is identical to the tf2c base you started with that hasn't been updated in over a year. Even if your repo is a fucking mess you still managed to fix a few things.
Colton Gonzalez
also just to clarify i want the source 2.9.2 was compiled off of, where the spy mask, cloak bar, etc. where fixed sage for doublepost
Zachary Torres
Devanon needs to up it.
Or are you using my git and not the main one?
the one from Zgok is heavily broken
Adrian Cook
I can't even access your branch anymore. I'm using the source code that's in the main branch, which has none of the changes made over tf2v's lifetime
Here's mine. Dunno why you can't access it. Also everything you listed is from my broken build that was the ill fated v3RC1 build. A lot of the fixes devanon has made have been to just the models and the like which requires no rebuild of the binaries.
Jackson Bell
Don't know why either. Anyway thanks user i'll be sure to look over this and see what you did with various different things
Gavin Miller
I tried to alter the airblast.
My build is extremely broken and I tried to do something simple like remove the GRN and YLW code from the game.
Ayden Cooper
it probably wasn't the best idea to go around altering typedefs and deleting things. I mostly want to look at what you did to save me some time in fixing some things. Do you happen to have a list of all the key fixes you made?
Colton Phillips
Again all I attempted to do was delete the references to the 4team mode in the coding. I got it to compile but the end result was a completely fucked build. You'll also find (maybe) the groundwork for an attempt to make a different airblast more in line with TF2 live than TF2C's "realistic" approach. I wanted to tie it to a convar so servers could toggle
Levi Ross
Ok I found the source code for the binaries tf2v is running. Turns out tf2v is currently using binaries from tf2classic 2.00b4 but now I can finally start fixing shit at least
Brody Garcia
Godspeed, nigga.
Evan Williams
this tbh
Hunter Sanchez
Not like we'd try and hide it.
Best of luck, would like bug fixers to focus on PL because issues.
Also talking to some guys from the SMC discord they said old TF2 code shits the bed badly on the 2013 framework and suggested if we can't get shit to work to port what we can to the TF2P code and go from there.
Luke Martin
The problem is that the tf2v git doesn't have that version of the source code in it user. Anyway i'm trying things out now and i'll post if I get anything really good working
Nobody fucking cares about TF2C asstart. We're here to play vintage. Leave your girly epic drama out of it.
James Cook
Who wants to play?
Kevin Ortiz
In like four hours, sure.
Luke Young
I'm available. I just downloaded TF2V, and the fact that the only server has no players is pretty sad. Completely empty.
Benjamin Cooper
Fuck it.
JOIN THE SERVER NOW, WE'RE GOING TO PLAY VIDEOGAME GET THE FUCK IN HERE, TWO PEOPLE SO FAR
Jayden Hughes
We 3v3 now let's go
Wyatt Allen
FOUR PEOPLE ON THE SERVER, GEDDIN NOW YOU GIGANTIC HOMOS
Jace Jackson
SOUND IS BROKEN Some sound effects are missing, at least on ganoo loonix
Juan Powell
try snd_restart
Jaxson Hall
FUCK
Aaron Clark
Wanna start it up again?
Tyler Jones
maybe tomorrow night Gonna play some barotrauma
Andrew Morales
Does anyone know if you still need to change Source 2013 MP to a beta build, or was that exploit patched? There's 4 different beta builds available but some of them seem redundant
Henry Hughes
Any niggas here wanna play later?
Samuel Scott
I would like to play even now. The problem is that we less than 10 people, there isn't much sense in playing at all.
Dylan Peterson
*with less than
Thomas Butler
You don't really mean that user, do you? It's always fun playing with you guys.
I'd love to user
Christian Jenkins
I'd like to play with you user.
Nathaniel White
I'd say games with at leats 8 people (4 vs 4) are good enough.
Cameron Anderson
JOIN FUCKERS
Matthew Green
9 people in game right now
Nicholas Mitchell
people left for food. Down to 6.
Elijah Hernandez
Thanks for the fun today anons. I'll try to get something small out for you guys while I work on something bigger
Aiden James
Will we ever get a server with low ping? It feels like every player is always 2 seconds ahead of you, playing from the future.
Isaac Ward
when some can. We've had hosts come and go.
Michael Robinson
bball is pretty fun tho tbh
Nolan White
Not really.
Nolan Thomas
you've never lived lad
Julian Cruz
Not as fun as prophunt, dodgeball or even surf.
Only niggers like basketball. So how typical of alhablaster to make a niggerball server
Robert Taylor
im not a nigger and i like it. what does that make me, a double nigger?
Blake Cook
Yes
Adrian Perry
Any of you up for TF2V in like two or three hours?
Leo Kelly
sure
Joseph Johnson
GET ON THE SERVER AND PLAY SOME FUCKING VIDEOGAMES
Aaron Hughes
I'll be on it a bit. I'm still tweaking some things
Brandon Smith
1 player get in here
Jeremiah Sullivan
...
David Ortiz
A FULL FOUR NIGGAS, GET YOUR ASSES IN HERE
David Miller
Server replays are now available to people to use this week if they want to watch a bunch of bullshit.
make it six nerds, i know there's another one of you out there
Kayden Foster
(checked) Anyone going to play later?
Michael Bennett
Gotta wait until friday night.
Xavier Thomas
ALRIGHT NIGGERS I'VE GOT A TREAT FOR YOU i fixed some shit
Changelog: +Fixed payload hill log errors: payload cart will now conform to uphill and downhill logic on pl and plr maps +Fixed end-of-round scoreboard not updating after every round +Disguised health for spy can now be replenished at healthpacks +Spy will no longer grab the current health of dead players (1 hp) +Hud now displays disguised target (WIP) //HACK: added temporary payload overtime logic. Rollback check only occurs on overtime. if check is true, 5 seconds added to timer. +Added experimental airblast: TF2C's stock airblast does not immobilize players on blast, causing conflicting velocities. This airblast will function more in line with the live version of TF2. in order to access this experiemental airblast use the convar "tf2c_airblast 2" to activate. In order to reapply the default airblast use "tf2c_airblast 1" instead. //NEEDS TWEAKING AND DEBUGGING// Known bugs: -After completing waiting for players phase, player may immediately begin moving. -Spy will consistently select the previous target for disguising if no player of the chosen class exists on the enemy team -Spy does not cycle between enemy members of a single class -Dispensers do not restore cloak -Dispenser trails are visible on cloaked spies -Spy health does not decay when damaged
GIT: github.com/bachingo/TF2Vintage you only need the bin files located in game/tf2classic/bin. make sure to back up your old bins first
If anyone is willing to mess with the airblast and tell me what needs to be changed that'd be great I wasted my weekend on this
Jaxson Smith
YEAH BAYBEY
Is this the first V3 release? who knows
Adam Mitchell
devanon is offline at the moment so it needs time. We'll package the new binaries as stand alones and throw em on moddb.
Adam Smith
make sure you include an upgrade package with just the binaries. It's not right to make anons download the whole package again, and it'll save headaches when people inevitable try to connect on outdated binaries
Gavin Johnson
That's my plan. just a "lite" version for V3
V2.9.2 has all the fixes so we can just package it as v3 with a readme to instruct them what to do.
We'll hold off until the server udpates to the new binaries. Now we just need someone to compile your fixes for linux
Charles King
you might want to hold off on V3 for a bit if possible. I'm going to be a bit busy for the next few weeks so I won't be working as actively on the project, but i'm trying to reverse-engineer the payload hud
Sebastian Brooks
Fair enough. I figured though any future fixes could be like 3.1, 3.2, etc
But we'll hold off if that's what you're asking
Samuel Smith
I definitely want the binaries to be implemented server-side so I can do some playtesting proper. I just want to make 3.0 a bit more grand after all the waiting that's happened
Jaxson Mitchell
did you just compile the client dlls? or both server and client?
I agree 3.0 needs some fanfare but what and how big is the issue with that.
Still good shit mate. Thanks for taking time out to do that.
Ethan Baker
I always compile both when i'm testing things. Many of the classes in the source sdk have overlap with the server and client calls, and if there's any discrepancies the game environment often won't load
Landon Martinez
they're on the github if you need them
Jack Ward
Ok so I tested it and it works. I checked for the spy mask issue devanon said existed in my build but it's not there.
What are we labeling this as 2.9.3 or what?
Aiden Turner
the mask issue had to do with the fact that the code on the repo for both the master and your branch is from a july 2016 commit to the tf2classic github. That build seems to have been a heavily indev build, and after looking at it they did a full rewrite of the mask class so as to generate random masks when disguising as an enemy spy. They also rewrote the weapon calls to accommodate loadouts. I worked off of the februrary commit, presumably the one they shipped 2.0.0b3 with. 2.9.3 sounds fine
Luke Lewis
righto.
Ryan Robinson
I made a clip showing the two different airblasts back-to-back for anyone curious.
Parker Powell
So which one is the original one we've run so far and which one is the new one?
Also talked to devanon dunno if he's updated the server. But 2.9.3 is now on the moddb I MIGHT package it as a FULL version alongside the patch so New people won't have to essentially download 2 things. But the patch is live and ready now
Jayden Powell
The first one is the tf2c airblast. Notice that the players can override the velocity set by the pyro's airblast, causing them to go upwards instead of away. The second one is the experimental airblast
Noah Myers
Second one looks nicer, more in line with the retail one. TF2C went with an "Realistic" idea for it and that's the result.
I might submit a fix to shorten the convars they have. Just so it's less to type in and to obviously distant us from TF2C
Xavier Gutierrez
I'll pack up a full version when I get a somewhat stable set of binaries ready for V3. I've got to implement some of the other fixes I've done in there, like the file hashes.
Ryan Rivera
did you make changes to the binaries? If so i'd like to see what you've done if possible. I didn't realized anyone else was touching the binaries at this point
Chase Clark
Why would we use the TF2C version of airblast? Either the retail version or the new version from the Jungle Inferno update.
Carter Harris
Because it's not so simple user. We've been using the tf2c implementation because that's the only one that existed in the code until now. The codebase tf2c is based off of was from before the pyro had an alt fire, so we can only guess. I'm trying to implement the old vanilla airblast but I need people to test it and tell me what needs tweaking
Christopher Richardson
Right now I've got mostly content updates, I don't think 2.9.2 comes with the update for Jungle Inferno. I know V3 will have that definitely and the update for badlands.
Camden Ortiz
please don't add the update for badlands, it removes the hiding spots from the map, which is fucking retarded. you didn't answer my question
Oliver Hughes
I answered your question, no.
Also how does the new badlands update remove hiding spots? All I got in my changelog is that it makes some of the lamps noncollidable and the mesa cap to have a medium ammo on the porch.
Jordan Turner
the hiding spots are the lamp props, most notably on rollout, last and the room to the left of last.
Brandon Cook
So you just sat on the lamp props waiting for people at final then? What's the skill in that?
Thomas Howard
as with any hiding spot if you're not paying attention that's on you. The glass is see-through at last and the player has to be immobolized and out of commission to do it
Daniel Smith
Putting up a "Full" version with the fixes bach pushed as 2.9.3 I still need to package it but I'll be leaving the patch up to make it easier for existing players
good skill for spies.
In any case yeah Another reason I'm pushing a full is those following the mod will be tipped off to it and I can squeeze out an article too highlighting a weekend gamenight to celebrate the fixes.
Connor Nelson
Nope. Badlands is horribly balanced for attackers and needs fixes to help out the defenders. That's why V3 will have the updated map where it slightly favors defenders more especially in final.
Jonathan Turner
An exploit is going outside map boundaries or the old bug where if you switched to spectator you could TK. A hiding spot isn't an exploit. This is on par with the retarded "fixes" I see from private server owners when players figure out how to farm content on specific classes.
Tyler Garcia
But all of these hiding spots benefit the defending team more than they do the attacking team. The only hiding spot that's really useful for attacking is the fan at last, and that's only useful if the defending team is retarded and leaves the point open for a back cap.
Easton Parker
What these anons said. The lamp on last allows a soldier or demo to stop poorly planned or rush caps. Under no viable circumstances should an enemy player be camping a point several caps back.
Sebastian Reyes
Not to mention it's not like the person is completely hidden. All it's going to take is that initial few shots from a soldier to alert the attackers to someone is up there defending the last point.
Gavin Hernandez
Not only that, the changes Jungle Inferno made actually made badlands less skill based if anything, since ammo is no longer an issue during midfights and theres less imminent threats when pushing last, just slower cap time
OKAY ANONS LETS PLAY SOME VIDEO GAMES GET IN HERE OR FOREVER BE A NIGGER
Josiah Morales
HOSTFAG TURN ON THE EXPERIMENTAL AIRBLAST.
Oliver Ortiz
FOUR PEOPLE ARE ON THE SERVER
JOIN NOW FOR FREE RAPE
Matthew Wilson
BACH Sniper moves at full speed while zoomed in Heavy sped up while spinning the minigun Engi ran normally when hauling A bunch of shit.
Elijah Bell
i know that's why nobody is playing i'm fixing it I swear. The movement class got fucked so I need to fix it up
Wyatt Rogers
Ok. Someone told me then so I'm just posting them here.
Thanks
Mason Jenkins
You better fix it by the time Saturday games roll you faggot.
Henry Scott
i'll have it fixed tonight faggot you better play video games with me tomorrow
David Peterson
I found the problem. Turns out the method i used for setting the speed of the player during the airblast kept resetting the player speed when they weren't being airblasted. It should be fixed now just give me a moment to compile and test it
Adrian Scott
even if nobody else joins I'll rekk u with uber medic MLG skills
Charles Lewis
ALRIGHT ANONS I FIXED IT THIS TIME apologies for ruining the vidya today Studies show i'm not the best bugtester, so bear with me anons.
Changelog:
Known bugs:
Jacob Collins
fugg :DDD
Robert Kelly
I fixed it, you don't need to change anything. I'm spending my electricity and computer parts for your mod and don't get anything in return, you could be at least a little nicer.
Aiden Powell
you're a fag but we need you for weekends, so please keep being a somewhat decent fag
Colton Morales
Uploading to moddb now as a hotfix.
Also Bach I dunno how it'll impact it but I've been meaning to shorten all the TF2C convars for ease of remembering and to kinda scrub tf2c from the files as best we can. if I can get VS running again would you take a push to your git for the shortened cvars?
Robert Sanders
If you can get that shit working 100% then by all means go for it. I just don't want any more problems being made than already exist. It probably be a better idea to make a branch first though, and then it can later be merged if everything works alright
Noah Hill
Shit doesnt work for me, when I try to get into the server I get prompted back to the main menu.
Jacob Clark
server user probably hasn't updated yet. We'll have to wait until he does that today
Ayden Perry
actually i can connect to the server just fine. did you replace your bin folder?
Carson Evans
Did you throw it into the tf2vintage folder or the sourcetest folder?
Liam Rodriguez
I put everything in /tf2vintage/bin
Jace Lee
I just re-downloaded the binaries and replaced mine. I'm still not having any issues connecting. Try re-downloading them, perhaps something was overwritten properly
Carter Fisher
I've gotten in just fine. I don't know how you're getting that issue.
Hudson Lewis
Well, I don't know either. I guess I'll have to re-download the fullgame some time in the future.
In case you want to verify, those are the files in my tf2vintage/bin directory md5sum64e567b731cbde0b0eaccdca987c9104 client.dll4c7b36eee42616ebb0ecd37a9bd91bc7 client.pdbf6f59b6a9acd546af8737499b8394942 client.sof6f59b6a9acd546af8737499b8394942 client_srv.soa7534cb517dfdb37e63669f0c8fd3eba server.dll2d6ce6733f0e60da8b3b66e40d5de196 server.pdb84c0c750f2aa31357f99a0806401ce1c server.so84c0c750f2aa31357f99a0806401ce1c server_srv.so
Joseph Baker
hey user quick question: are you running linux by any chance?
Jacob Stewart
Yes. *insert RMS copy-pasta here*
Nathaniel Hernandez
Ok that's the problem. MSM was trying to find someone more experienced to handle linux binaries but i'll do my best. Give me a minute and i'll link you some binaries
It seems the server wasn't updated or something and people can't join. That's what you guys have been talking about.
Owen Powell
No, someone can't enter the server for reasons unknown while we can get in just fine.
Eli Adams
Nice, it werks now. The only current issue is related to the sound as I also pointed last week The console gives a cascade of errors about missing .wav files
Matthew Hall
the reason that fine user could not join was because the linux binaries weren't updated but that has been resolved now.
glad to hear it user.
Jackson Young
So…
Who wants to play?
Christopher Kelly
i'll play with you user
Jaxson Martin
4 PLAYERS JOIN FAGGETS
Thanks user
Adrian Thomas
rip serbian?
Brody Clark
it seems to be back up
Ian Hernandez
Server is back
Aiden Hughes
Now that the server is dead I fixed a couple things I noticed weren't working.
Henry Sanchez
Fairly sure the main cause of that is the server being in the US.
Kevin Howard
I'm in the US and i was experiencing them as well. Either way optimization always helps
Oliver Lewis
sorry for quitting this early, internet went out and there's some urgent stuff to do now
Chase Watson
Updating as 2.9.3 HOTFIX #2
From now on I'll package linux and windows as one thing since the binaries are so small
Joseph Howard
Also bach just get rid of the TF2C airblast next update if you can. I think people agree across the board the one closer to TF2 is better.
Colton Powell
It's not really a big deal to leave it in. Removing it won't improve anything and the new airblast is already enabled by default. If someone wants to use the TF2C airblast for whatever reason they have to enable it through Convars
Joshua Mitchell
Fair enough. If the new one is the default that works too
Samuel Allen
anyone wanna play ina bit?
Blake Martinez
It's been dead this weekend but if other anons chime in I'll hop on for a bit
Tyler Phillips
I've been busy at work and the latest hot fixes seem to address a lot of issues.
Christopher Taylor
WHO WANTS TO PLAY
Ian Fisher
2 people playing right now
Carter Mitchell
>>>/radcorp/3822 so by the looks of this thread you got it all sorted out, right?
Elijah Long
3 people
Matthew Morris
I hope you guys learn how to replace a bin folder by next Friday otherwise I'll be pouting alone in the corner with like 2 other people
Kevin Perry
I'll need to write retard proof instructions. I had hoped people would figure it out.
I don't want to make a full version of every hotfix
Logan Perez
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Christian Parker
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Nathaniel Ortiz
bump
Leo White
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Blake Brown
We actually have less bugs than TF2C. Not to mention we're more active.
Elijah Cooper
Are you talking about the player-base or the development?
Owen Thomas
Why has the thread been bumplocked?
Andrew Lee
Guess twice, dumbass.
Oliver Morris
there better be a new thread when i get back faggots or i won't post my fixes