Star Fox Games & Lore Discussion

Dylan Anderson
Dylan Anderson

This is a universe that desperately needs to be fleshed out because it has a lot of potential.

Where are the point defenses on this? What does it have to protect itself? EWS? Cloaking? Does is stay behind a screen of other ships?

As far as I see both the Mobile HQ and the Great Fox have these issues.

but user fighters in space aren't realistic anyways

That's why they have the G-diffuser and metal legs. The only reason fighters in space wouldn't work for us is because of fuel, excessive G-forces, radiation shielding, and limited firepower. All of these things are issues they solved. The Cornerians likely had a bad run with drones/AI and refuse to use them at any cost, hence why only the Venomians employ them at all.

If any of you think I'm wrong on my assessment that's fine, but I think this series needs to be in the hands of someone who will do something with it worth a damn.

Gavin Young
Gavin Young

So, autism thread. Star Fox does have potential but since it’s Ninty it won’t see any fleshing out. They’ll never give it to anyone either unless Miyamoto finally drops dead.

Joshua Long
Joshua Long

:(

Aaron Sanders
Aaron Sanders

OP is a furfag.

Colton Allen
Colton Allen

The closest you're ever going to get is A Fox In Space.

Zachary Gonzalez
Zachary Gonzalez

You're not allowed to watch that

Alexander Reed
Alexander Reed

Lust Penis is canon.

Chase Richardson
Chase Richardson

it has a lot of potential.
Like what? It's a very standard sci-fi universe with furries. The characters are all basic archetypes. Nothing is ever fleshed out in detail, because it's all just a flimsy backdrop for shooting things. The series' one attempt at making the story a little more in depth was pretty cringeworthy.

Joseph Allen
Joseph Allen

Just to get some of the lore out of the way, there are three different iterations of Star Fox (I'll list them in order).

First iteration
<Star Fox (SNES), Star Fox 2 (SNES)
Second iteration
<Star Fox 64/Star Fox 64 3D (N64/3DS), Star Fox: Farewell, Beloved Falco (Comic), Star Fox Adventure (GC), Star Fox Assault (GC), Star Fox Command (NDS)
Third iteration
<Star Fox Zero: The Battle Begins (Cartoon), Star Fox Zero (Wii U)

Levi Robinson
Levi Robinson

i'm a giant buzzkill look at me!!!

Fuck off user

Cameron Bell
Cameron Bell

Seriously, what is it about this universe you think has potential? Do you want to know the riveting story of what drove Andros to turn himself into a giant head? Do you want to know more about General Pepper's useless military force who rely on a small band of mercenaries to do everything for them? Would you like to know why there was a giant slot machine floating in space that one time?

Grayson Campbell
Grayson Campbell

Crystal ruined Assault, along with the land sections

Christian Adams
Christian Adams

I think your last image is corrupted. All I see is a white space.

Jonathan Robinson
Jonathan Robinson

Do you want to know more about General Pepper's useless military force who rely on a small band of mercenaries to do everything for them?

There are tons of different directions you could go with that alone. Maybe Star Fox is the spearhead and Corneria is fighting the real battle elsewhere in the system and you never see it.

Maybe Starfox is the last thing they can call on because Corneria was at peace for so long that their ships were really only good for policing piracy and criminals.

Maybe Andross disabled most of their infrastructure before striking.

Also like said it depends on what iteration you're even talking about.

Luis Long
Luis Long

I'd flesh out Krystal with her cock if you know what I mean.

Juan Cruz
Juan Cruz

I'd flesh out Krystal with her cock if you know what I mean.

Was that intentional user?

Logan Evans
Logan Evans

Okay now imagine if Fox got gender TF'd to look like that

Brandon Campbell
Brandon Campbell

Which game was it that introduced Fox and Falco turning into giants?

Cameron Moore
Cameron Moore

where da yiff at?

Joshua Bennett
Joshua Bennett

rite here

Connor Wright
Connor Wright

What's sucking?

Dylan Williams
Dylan Williams

this

John Hall
John Hall

That's gay

Mason Jones
Mason Jones

Zero Suit best fan art, prove me wrong

Christian Morris
Christian Morris

Which game was it that introduced the Zero Suit, actually?

Gavin Williams
Gavin Williams

Would you a Krystal?

Gabriel Parker
Gabriel Parker

Closest I can find is this.
<First pic
<Remaining four pics are SFW

I think it was Zero Mission ,the remake.

Of those pictures, only the third.

Oliver Harris
Oliver Harris

I think it was Zero Mission ,the remake.
Huh, I thought that was a Metroid game. Did the remake add in a Star Fox cameo with that being where the Zero Suit came from?

Nathaniel Smith
Nathaniel Smith

I used to fap to these images from an issue of nintendo power back in the day. Ah…brings me back.

Gavin Johnson
Gavin Johnson

fox and wolf getting gender tf'd

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Sebastian Wood
Sebastian Wood

No, no, no, no, no…Metroid: Zero Mission introduced Samus' zero suit. Star Fox and Metroid have nothing to do with one another (Not even any cameos). The zero suit just became a meme along with female Fox McCloud around the time Smash 4 came out.

Gabriel Scott
Gabriel Scott

What if cuntboy Fox McCloud instead?

Anthony Davis
Anthony Davis

Oh, that works :3

Chase Walker
Chase Walker

You're gay

Carson Torres
Carson Torres

Oh i nuked my sf folder that was silly of me

Kayden Moore
Kayden Moore

furfaggotry
Expected tbh

Hunter Ortiz
Hunter Ortiz

metal legs
Even the fucking Game Theory guy asked Miyamoto himself in a interview about this, and guess what? None of the devs knew anything about the whole amputee pilots resist high g maneuvers better. They just had legs that make them stand up like people instead of animals.

Thomas Gray
Thomas Gray

That's why they have the G-diffuser and metal legs.
None of the devs knew
Really, the first hint should have been the fact that they have G-diffusers at all, which would completely negate the need for high-G body modifications in the first place.

Elijah Gomez
Elijah Gomez

kNot to mention the official Nintendo Power (?) comics had them take the metal legs off as if they were boots

Nolan Thomas
Nolan Thomas

I'd like to see a StarFox game utilize unique character talents at some point in both vehicles and in person.

And sucks that Nintendo just made Krystal fap bait to piss off Rare because her story in the StarFox universe has potential.

Telepath.
Parents were murdered by Andross.
Was possibly captured either by Corneria or Venom to test telepathy.
Escape to Sauria aka Dinosaur Planet
Telepathy lets her understand dinosaur magic.
Uses magic instead of conventional firearms.
Cannot into computer at first.
Still is expert CQC with magic staff boosting physical abilities and telepathy to predict attacks.
Very new to Arwing, so her model is a scout with light fire and armor but telepathy lets her avoid danger.

Speaking of dinosaurs I was thinking about having a Sharpclaw tribe character as a new member of Star Wolf who combines dinosaur magic with technology to be a powerful warrior who almost bests Wolf in melee. Leon is the assassin who sneaks in for the kill with camo. Panther seems like a charismatic evil James Bond that's jack of all trades.

Robert Nelson
Robert Nelson

The concepts of Adventure and Assault's gameplay has a ton of potential. I just wish they refined and improved it all instead of throwing it all in the trash to make yet another remake of the original Star Fox.

I'd like to see a StarFox game utilize unique character talents at some point in both vehicles and in person.
I would also love to see something akin to how Jet force Gemini handled it's playable characters.
I imagine the story would be that there is a huge war, The Star Fox team get hired as mercenaries but so does Star Wolf for the same side, since because of the war the people are desperate for anyone's help. so that could be fun for the story and is an excuse to let you play as both Teams.

Ayden Cooper
Ayden Cooper

I want to marry Fox! … or do I? Would a person who's capable of killing really be capable of loving?

David Harris
David Harris

fox wants to have sex
he doesn't care if you don't want it and he doesn't care if it hurts for you
at least he doesn't point a gun at you while he's fucking you anymore

Easton Torres
Easton Torres

Starfox

Parker Bell
Parker Bell

you will never play a Star Fox game where you get the magic staff and a shitload of guns as well as a full array of vehicles
you will never use the staff rocket boost power to get into the best sniping position on the map and then put head shots through enemies
you will never have Capture the Flag matches in the Ocean Force Point Temple
you will never have Krystal use her telepathy to tell you where the enemy forces are and then call in an airstrike on their position

Fuck this timeline tbh. Time for some time travel/dimension shifting. Gotta fix this.

Adrian Foster
Adrian Foster

The concepts of Adventure and Assault's gameplay has a ton of potential. I just wish they refined and improved it all instead of throwing it all in the trash to make yet another remake of the original Star Fox.

I always thought it would be cool if they took the gameplay of Star Wars Battlefront and applied it to Star Fox.

Colton Moore
Colton Moore

Battlefront

It'd be better than nu-Battlefront. When we inevitably have a thread about Battlefake 2 when it's released alongside the mouse's new cinematic abortion this holiday season, I'll make sure to talk about how a Star Fox game could do the same thing. Maybe we can get people making Battlefront-style mods for all sorts of games. Metroid Prime Battlefront? Why not?

Carter Adams
Carter Adams

Assault was already kind of like that in some levels where you could freely go from vehicle to on foot, but yeah I get what your saying.
I almost want there to be an open world or maybe hub areas would be better, I just think it would be fun to explore the different worlds without it always being during a battle a little down time to look around would be nice.

and Man this only occurred to me after righting the rest of this post, but We have never really got to look around the Great Fox have we? It's such a cool ship, seems like a missed opportunity.

Evan Peterson
Evan Peterson

I guess i'm thinking of Mass Effect style worlds but with far better gameplay.

Blake Evans
Blake Evans

So playing as two armies
General Pepper's Cornerian Army (dogs as it's the military unit Bill Grey belongs to)
Andross's forces (monkey's/apes).
Fighting well gain access to "hero" units like the members of Star Fox. Playing as Fox McCloud on foot may give access to a moveset similar to his Smash Bros version (rapid fire blaster and reflector). Vehicles like the Arwing, Landmaster, and alt versions of them like the SF2 walker Arwing or character exclusive Command version Arwing's could also be used. Other Cornerian Army allies like Katt Monroe and Bill Grey would be there, possibly even Peppy's daughter and other Command characters.
Of course to counter that, Andross's forces "hero" units are Star Wolf and their Wolfen ships. Other "hero"s would be the Ape pilots that used the Gundam like mech's that served as the boss of Sector Y in SF64. Smaller playable versions of other famous bosses could also serve such as SF64 Sector X's Spyborg or that two headed mechanical dragon/bird Monarch Dodora from SFZ. If desperate for more villain "heroes" Pigma Dengar could possibly have a few alt versions of himself from the different SF games to serve a multiple characters to pad out the villain roster like a normal version, Aparoid version, SF Guard, robot minion using version.
Would anyone like dinosaurs characters such as Prince Tricky or General Scales you could actually fight him this time or Aparoids as "hero" units?

We have never really got to look around the Great Fox have we? It's such a cool ship, seems like a missed opportunity.
Outside of Adventures menu screen and the SFZ The Battle Begins anime short, there hasn't been.

Ian Hernandez
Ian Hernandez

I was also thinking about how Fox's and Falco's blasters can work for the game. To do this there has to be regenerating shields as temporary body armor. Health will still be there as well as armor to make some foot units will be a bitch to kill.

Fox's blaster is rapid fire. It deals little to no damage and has no stopping power. However blaster's rapid fire rips shields to shread. So Fox can close in for a quick melee kill. Which makes sense if Fox is a commando-type unit with a versatile weapon selection more effective at killing than his blaster pistol.

Falco's blaster does slightly more damage and can kill via headshot but isn't as effective at taking out shields. Instead Falco's blaster has enough stopping power to halt or even trip oncomming units. The reason is that Falco on the ground prefers distance as a sniper. Falco can use his wing arms to get extra height to reach vantage points to snipe away oncoming threats. And if Falco is spotted he has the means to get out of close range quickly.

If Slippy has a blaster I say it's like a shotgun. It's a close range weapon that can kill in one or two shots. It's also Slippy's only useful firearm because Slippy would be busy setting up sentry bots, hacking terminals, and setting up mines around the field.

Krystal's staff at melee would break shields due to it's magical nature. Krystal would also have stronger shields/barrier power to make up for her poor marksmanship. Also Krystal's staff as a side arm can shoot firebolts at enemies which while inneffective at hurting shields can set tougher and armored enemies on fire which not only drains health quickly but ignites any nearby flammable substances. Krystal can also deflect single blaster and rifle shots so long as she sees the shooter. But not rapid fire weapons nor explosives.

Carson Ward
Carson Ward

Continuing.

Wolf is a commando-like unit. Unlike Fox he is slower, but more durable and stronger and can use heavier weapons without much encumbrance.

Leon is an assassin. He only has two kill ranges: melee and sniper. Leon in a firefight is useless but has precision long range and stealth. Leon's backstab kills anything in one hit.

Panther is espionage. He's a scouting unit who can run at incredibly fast speeds. His equipment is made to spy on the enemy team and give that info to his. Panthro travels light but he can use pistols, assault rifles, and snipers.

General Scales is dead. Long live Scales. But that said either Scales himself or his son can fit the role of CQC saboteur. Sharpclaws are mutant dinosaurs that combine magic with technology. Naturally they have boosted shields but access to fire, cryo, and EMP weaponry that can crowd control units and vehicles. Cryo spray can freeze units in their place or even barrels of big guns to jam them. EMP fucks with radar and computers. And fire burns. If it's Scale's son he can be StarWolf's newest fourth member as a replacement technician for Andrew.

If we're using everyone in StarFox canon then Bill could be a shock trooper with spray and prays. Kat could be a spy similar to Panther. Andrew is a mechanic but also a hacker. Pigma is the demoman who loves bombs. Peppy can use pistols and heavy weapons. General Pepper could use rifles and a "battle cane" aka light saber stick.

Nolan Parker
Nolan Parker

This is a universe that desperately needs to be fleshed out because it has a lot of potential.
We had that. It was called Star Fox Command.

People who want things to be more fleshed out are all faggots who just want to make their fetishes, shippings and pet theories cannon. The result is always shit.

Jaxon Thomas
Jaxon Thomas

Command was shit because they had a Deviant artist draw the endings

Thomas Martinez
Thomas Martinez

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Hudson Ward
Hudson Ward

5 posts in 5 minutes

This is an imageboard, you can afford to take time and make well-written posts instead of spamming. Reported.

Luis Gonzalez
Luis Gonzalez

Oh no, oh man!!!

Christian Mitchell
Christian Mitchell

You should die

Nolan Thompson
Nolan Thompson

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Caleb Moore
Caleb Moore

billy c man come on

William Hall
William Hall

we already went through this like a day ago

Jace Wilson
Jace Wilson

What the fuck did I miss? Thread got raided?

Joshua Butler
Joshua Butler

I user just spammed stuff like penis, shit, fuck. over and over again, until he was reported.

Joshua Hill
Joshua Hill

I never knew talking about Star Fox gameplay could trigger autism this badly.

That said, I'm sure character abilities I mentioned can be translated into Arwing features. Maybe have Arwings with different alt-forms like chicken walker too.

Wyatt Green
Wyatt Green

Thread's in auto-sage btw.

Cooper King
Cooper King

Well we were also talking about some world building/Lore so that triggered the shit out of him for some reason.

I'm sure character abilities I mentioned can be translated into Arwing features. Maybe have Arwings with different alt-forms like chicken walker too.
As flawed as Star Fox Command was I did like how everyone had a unique ship that was personalized to them. I thought it was bad ass how James Mccloud had an older model Arwing.

Colton Young
Colton Young

I can understand wanting to keep Star Fox like an arcade shooter. Lots of space shooters gave you options for different vehicles and pilots.

My ideal Star Fox game would be playing space mercenaries. Keep 64's controls, no tilting right stick to barrel roll shit, with maybe some motion aiming, throw in some money to buy vehicles, upgrades, and maintenance (shieldless arwings can take a bit more beating before exploding), hire other mercs as relief and dispatch missions, and build sandbox battlefields with on-rails sections while fast travel and all-range mode for when you arrive. Story is Camp Corncheese space opera like how Star Fox has always been but more day to day. Both mission accomplishes and failure will determine difficulty based on how many objectives you can clear.

Adrian Reed
Adrian Reed

Leon is an assassin. He only has two kill ranges: melee and sniper. Leon in a firefight is useless but has precision long range and stealth. Leon's backstab kills anything in one hit.
I also thought of the similar idea of Leon and his chameleon camouflage would make him play like TF spy class cloaking ability. Interestingly enough, SFA did list his role as assassin.

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That said, I'm sure character abilities I mentioned can be translated into Arwing features. Maybe have Arwings with different alt-forms like chicken walker too.
So something like
Normal Arwing
SNES polygon Arwing
Arwing with walker mode (maybe with a variation that's weak in the air but very strong as a walker)
Falco triple damage SFZ Arwing
Arwing that can fly underwater (like SF2 or some from SFC), useful on an Aquas based beach map?

And of course to counter it.
Wolfen
Wolfen II (Venom hard route SF64, has 6 wings)
SF2 polygon Wolfen
SFZ Wolfen that can fucking transform into a fucking Zoid "Hunter" quadruped walker
3 more SFZ Wolfen with their character special attacks like Lightning Tornado (Wolf), Plasma Shield (Andrew) and Pigma Bomb

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