Dragons Dogma thread

I played the MMO for a bit when it first came out. I don't know what it's like these days, but it didn't leave a great impression. I understood virtually nothing about it, because it's entirely in Japanese, but from what I gathered, the story revolves around a Great White Dragon that has called all the Arisens to come and protect it from something. I don't fucking know.

Anyway, the gameplay was kind of shitty. For one, they split the ranger/strider into two different classes, so there was the "hunter" class that only had a fucking bow, and there was another class where you only had the dual blades, but I forget what they called it. Another thing, your character didn't level up; you would instead level classes. Say you pick knight and you level it up to the cap, but then you want to switch to mage or something. Well, you'd be back at level one, which means you have to go back to the region outside of the starting area and do the same fucking notice board quests over and over again to level up before you can move on to the region that you were playing before. Maybe that's not a big deal to the type of WOW autist who wants to spend the next three years on one game, and I understand that there should be some type of restriction for suddenly changing your class, but to me that's just too much. Maybe they could've let you retain your character level, but forced you to grind for Skill Points to unlock new moves like in the first game, instead of making you go back to level one and purchasing new moves from a shop once you meet their level requirement.

The large monsters like ogres and griffins have a "rage meter". That is to say, when you do a certain amount of damage to them, they will begin to enter "rage mode", during which time your normal attacks will do significantly less damage, and you'll have to work to attack certain weak spots on the body in order to get them back to normal, just so you can continue to do damage to the beast. This system by itself isn't so bad, but the problem lies in how frequently rage mode would initiate. Sometimes a single monster could enter rage mode four or five times in a single fight, and it just becomes a tedious slog to get them out of it again. Sure, you could partner with a priest character who could use magic to get them out of rage mode much faster, but if you're playing alone, or you can't understand Japanese and are therefore unable to find someone to play with, then you're fucked.

The pawn AI was utter shit, it feels as though they were added as an afterthought. Given my inexperience with the game, I admit I could be wrong, but from what I could tell, it seemed like pawns were unable to learn how to do better strategies like their counterparts in Dark Arisen. I guess they expected players to group up into teams and work together instead of having pawns.

Aside from this, though, the game ran pretty well, it looked good enough for a F2P MMO, and they added a couple of new mechanics that make the general experience better. For instance, players are now able to climb certain types of terrain, and I'm pretty sure that running outside of combat would not consume stamina, though I'm not sure about that.

Anyway, I don't know if the game has been improved since I played it, but I don't really care to find out. Give it a try if you really want to. You have to use a VPN to gain access to their servers, because the game won't connect if your IP address isn't Japanese.

Just be sure to get a ranged class
That fucking Golem and its medals in Gran Sorens Abyss.
Fuck

Is that one randomized as well?

Thanks for the info, I wouldn't play it either way since I despise MMOs and any F2P that isn't Planetside 2, but I just really wanted to know if there were plotpoints in it or better gameplay.
Shit like climbing surfaces and such would be neat for a sequel.
Just like the OG, but I know this is only done so they can charge you to not grind.

The escort at the start of the game is, by far, the worst part of the game. Yes, it's important to send the players to the main city, but it was done so fucking poorly.

At what point this shit become fun?
20 hours later it really feels like fucking skyrim.
Yeah it has flashy combat animations, but there is no much point since enemies are just as dumb and all you need to do is to whack them until they die or run away if they don't take enough damage and come later with better sword.

I just started playing Dragon's Dogma for the second time. Last time I played was the original on a PS3 in 2012, this time I'm on a PC with Dark Arisen. It's even better than I remember because Hard Mode wasn't a thing back at launch. Despite having done it all before, it feels fresh because there's both new layer of challenge to basic combat and because so much fucking gold and exp are dropping that I don't have to grind AT ALL. By the time I did the Hydra Head caravan to get to Gran Soren I was so hilariously over-leveled that we just walked there almost unchallenged – and I had done nothing to get there except all of the possible side quests before that point. When we rolled into the city I had 250,000 gold.

If I had one complaint about the game it would be the attribute system. I hate the fact that stat growth is permanently tied to your current class. It leads to super autistic fun-killing things like

Let me fix that

I played with a mod that improved Mystic Knight and Magick Archer stat gains which iskinda neat. However in comparison Fighter, Strider and Mage are still weaker than the split classes when looking at gains.

On the ps3 I remember abusing the exp system and lvled classes from 0 to 10 with only gaining at most 1 character lvl. I don't remember how the system works anymore but I remember killing low exp guards in the city when I was lvl ~30-40 to unlock class passives.

oh no the gameplay got made 200% worse in every way.
It's basically designed to attempt to force a Tank/DPS/Healer setup, tanks even have a fucking aggro meter

Dragon's Dogma was Itsuno pet project he kept trying to convince Capcom to let him make for years until they finaly relented and let him, except Capcom fucked him over half way into production they cut his teams budget and dev time in half and told them to just release it which is why the game feels half finished, the game was still a sucsess so even though Capcom tried to kill it they had a new successful IP on their hands and Itsuno was more then happy to make a sequel instead what did they do next?
Took the IP off Itsuno and turned it into a fucking japanese only free to play MMO.

I have no idea how Capcom is still operational with the amount of monumental fuck ups they constantly do.

Monhun.
Gotta be monhun.

Thankfully world is fixing that, so… I guess blind fighting game fanboys?

World doesn't fix anything since handeld release schedule stays untouched.
World is disposable safe bet. If it fails whatever, if it explodes, THEN they will abandon handhelds and roll buyable overwatch styled crates into MHW.

you haven't kept up.
World is the next mainline, they're putting a ton behind this

Stats don't matter all that much. Equipment matters more. I remember playing as pretty much all the classes and ending up as Assassin last, but still able to destroy pretty much all bosses without much problem. Only in BBI where Awakened Daimon is a damage soaking beast that I had problems, and that's only because I didn't have the BBI equipment (or Periapts) necessary to make him easier.

point and laugh at him

ahhh, thanks hitler.

I somehow have the feeling the japs made every good game on accident.

Bitterblack is the best part of the entire game nigga.

He's said in interviews that it was the game he daydreamed about making when he was in high school, too. It's really a shame he got the rug pulled out from under him.

World is the next "released for a wider audience" casualized cash-grab. I was happy to hear it was on PC but someone used their fucking monkey's paw to wish for it, and now we get THIS shit.

I'll think about it user. Its frustrating but people keep praising this thing so.. maybe it isn't as bad as I initially thought. But goddamn if the initial presentation of the game isn't fucking terrible.

Fighting Games, Monster Hunter

Yeah Capcom sucks though.

White Dragon was the polar opposite of Grigori and protected the land. Suddenly another dragon shows up and picks a fight. The two go at it for weeks until finally the one that picked the fight gets killed. White Dragon also goes down but is now slowly dying via petrification. White Dragon then performs a Mass Create Arisen spell and how has an army of Arisen devoted to protecting him. Now you have to find a way to save the White Dragon and prevent the absolute clusterfuck of an ending that is hundreds of Arisen all having their own individual mindfuck endings and splintering reality into several hundred pieces of fuck.

Clever writing

Jesus. Who did the port for this thing? The m&kb control scheme is fucked, especially the mouse for the UI.

Anyways, I'm going to turn this game into a 3D Etrian Odyssey. That is MC is gonna be a shota mage, the rest are varying classes of lolis. Give me your loli pawns.

Just know that the mage is more of a support and damage class. The pure damage magic-user is the Sorcerer.

Yeah but I'm just starting so there's not much I can do there. There's a supreme lack of little girl pawns at the start of the game though. My pawn is the cutest and flatest of them all.

Also the shortest dude I can make is still a tad bit taller than the smallest girl. I don't mind it so much but I was kinda hoping I'd get to play as a little boy wizard. Would have been funny.

Cause weight is a thing and ties directly into stamina and and some other gameplay mechanics. It's unintuitive to create kids as pawns except for roleplaying reasons, and you'll see why soon enough. THE WIND IS PUSHING MEEE

Aw shit. Kids tire faster?

They can carry less, they can't get into certain areas and have to BE carried, stamina regens slightly faster (but that's useless) and they suck in general at just about everything an adult can do, and better just like in real life. It's the reason there aren't little girl pawns around - at PC launch, there were plenty but as the playerbase wised up to the mechanics they disappeared.

But, user. We're all little kids. Who's gonna carry me?

I'd sooner spank your ass with a cricket bat and see how far you fly. If I can make it past 75-80 metres it's a guaranteed six in any major stadium. Bonus points if you take off screaming like one of my Chinese cartoons. Though a catapult would work too.

anyone gonna post pawns? im looking for inspiration

Capcom Fucked over the DEV of the game.

It actually is only 1/3 of the intended game. Yeah this game is pretty much only 1/3 of what was intended.

dubs says my dream comes true

the key is to make your character as fat as possible so you can carry the most weight and gain the most leverage when you climb onto monsters

Burn this witch.

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I wish people would understand this. You don't need to min max at all, as long as you're ball parking 400 on phys/m attack and 250 on phys/m def without gear you'll get by fine. Shit BBI weapons run 2500 or so alone in their attack ratings.

It didn't. Having played my fair share of MMOs, I know that sometimes they start off lacking content and forcing needless grind, but usually the players leaving forces the dev to clean their act up or die. DDON has made no effort to fix the issues that players hated from day one. They even went the extra mile and made it so that the non-real money, cash shop currency was no longer good for anything. Every 6 or so months, I check the official site to see if they decided to fix their shit or died, but neither has happened so far.

Sweet christ that lolibarian kills me.

Based as fuck. They deserve a buy for this.

obligatory

He's making something

Its what you fags deserve, you don't remember because you were too young but you casualized the game way before Capcom did it.
You gobbled up Tri and we never got the superior gameplay of Dos, because they feared it would be too hard for the target market they were aiming for with the Wii.

The attribute system is only really important if you're obsessed with min/maxing and you want to squeeze out that last bit of damage.

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PC Monhun 5 is already making its moneys worth.

A nigga can dream can't he

You don't belong here faggot

I didn't much care for the ending. Dragon ending lot was good, but the god shit felt rushed. Probably was, unfortunately. Gave the vibe that the game should've ended with Grigori

Little did you know, you were the cancer all along.

Boy it sure is nice how much DRAGONS DOGMA is being talked about in this thread

I never had issues with golems. Just climbed up on the things and started wailing away until it turns red, at which point I run.
My problems were always the enemies getting close was impractical. Anything sufficiently strong, essentially.

Though, that might be more to do with playing hardmode pretty much exclusively.

Hi cuckchan

I already killed Daimon and rampaged through BBI with Magic Archer, which is the objectively most satisfying vocation to use in BBI. Not much else left to do in the game.

Butthurt tbh

I wish the map was bigger
I really do
The fog makes it look much bigger than it really is

Eh, I think it's too big for what it contains, personally.
I mean, if there was more shit to do, I might agree, but as is, I was spending ages walking from point A to point B with absolutely nothing between. Especially given that most quests require you to run from point A to point B, then to C, then back to A, then back again to B.
If I could move a bit faster, I might've been okay with it. Port crystals are a god send, though. Just plop one by every major area, and you'll save something like twenty minutes every fucking quest.

Thatsthe point, its better than most fast travel means as it actually takes effort and planning.
Plus you get some enemies and loot points throughout the areas.

The randomized loot in this game is ass though.

Fuck you faggots making me want to play the game again, I've already done just about everything there is to do but anytime it comes up I feel the urge to dump more time into it again. It wouldn't be so bad if loading in mods wasn't so irritating.

Are there even good mods for the game?

there's the "use japanese voices" mod

Mostly UI and stat tweaks, such as making playing the game through as MA/MK actually good, ENB's and shit like that. There are various visual mods as well regarding textures, most of them are pretty meh though. There was a complete texture overhaul mod but it got dropped a year ago. Also

What? BBI looked like a post-campaign area from little poking around that I did there. What is the best point to visit it story and levelwise? At level 70 I didn't have too many issues in first few chambers, but chose to turn back before I would screw something up.

But they can get into certain other areas that most characters are too big to fit in.

At least each chest has six items max that can spawn in it. It always could be something worse:

I finally found a couple of lolis fit for my team. How far can I stretch these gals before they break under the weight of higher level hostiles?

I got the artbook for DD. I wish I didn't, there's so much cut content it causes physical pain.

It looks casualised as fuck, 4U remains the best game arguably
X and X2 are fucking trash

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That's because it WAS a third of the content they had planned.
Dragon's Dogma 2 NEVER EVER

DELETE THIS

You are going to want to trade them with new lolis after a while since their effectiveness will begin to drop since they don't gain levels with you or your main pawn.

suffering

Yeah, I think I'll change them after every 4-5 levels. It's nice that there are still a lot of lil qts in the game despite them getting the short end of the stick. I hope I find more in higher levels later.

was it really necessary to cast down meteor and miss

I should pick up DD Online again. I haven't been playing since before the plant monsters update.

What the faggots don't tell you, is that DDO craps all over the original when it comes to world and monster variety.

Who cares about variety if the gameplay is shit

But the game fucking sucks though.

Shit gameplay, shit classes, and paytowin fuckery. KYS shillnig.

Haha you're right who cares that they try and fail to force an MMO trinity, gutted pawn AI, and split classes.
The increased variety is a fucking myth, 90% of the new shit is reskins of older monsters

It's the exact same gameplay found in the original game. The fuck are you idiots trying to do here?

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They have no fucking idea, because the VPN requirements scares off the plebs.

yeah sure be a dumbass

Oh no! A UI element being added means the game plays totally differently!
You're a fucking idiot btw.

Yeah remember all those tank classes in DD? Remember the horrible enrage system that kills the flow of all large monster fights or the even worse "kill part or else he takes 90% less from everything"
Man I'm so glad those got added to DDO, it's such a variety filled game!

I remember my first Ogre, and how he drop kicked me into the pit

This is exactly how Golems work in DD, especially the ones on BBI. Did you even play THAT game?

Keep sucking DDO's dick, I'm sure capcom won't exploit your blind fanboy nature

Keep sucking that DDO dick, I'm sure one day your blind fanboy nature will make capcom make a good game

what did he mean by this?

Im not really sure, especially since Holla Forums doesn't refer to every single game that comes out as the dark souls of anything unless they're being sarcastic

Probably this Redditor trying to shit up thr board

I remember running away and spamming the mage jump hover like a fucking fairy because I couldn't do any damage to the ogre and if he grabbed me it was OHKO.

I installed the comprehensive mod pack from nexus and the game is now 2x way more fun. Huh.

Over what a god awful mmo that should never have exist in the first place that got made instead of a real sequel, keep sucking that capcom cock goy better make sure they don't figure out your not a nip otherwise ding dong bannu.

Been awhile since I've played it but doesn't that conflict with the story?
IIRC there can only be one dragon at a time since a dragon is An arisen who killed the dragon but failed to kill god
Or was that just Wyverns, Drakes and Wyrms?

This is basically the result of one dude transferring his P&P adventure over into a video game. Just make the main plot be one character's story (likely the person who transferred the idea over via their game) and make it so everyone plays his story of having their heart ripped out of their chest by a dragon.

nigga you dumb, it took a massive shit on the story because LOL ITS AN MMO!
Seriously DDO is a complete pile, and should honestly have never been made.

The entire game's plot has been built around the idea of a neverending circle of death and rebirth. It's not just some accidental asspull they shoved in at the end to justify NG+ or something, it's all over the fucking place. How do you explain all of the plot points about former Arisen being scattered through the game? Selene was a pawn, the Duke was an Arisen that chose power over love, the Dragonforged and his pawn are literally and explicitly shoved in your face as part of the main quest. The cycle of dragon -> arisen -> dragon -> arisen has been going on for so long that their 1000 year old religion mentions it.

Not to mention the circle symbolism all over the place, or the fact that the game's theme song says "Finish the cycle of eternal return".

if you ever saw the leaked design documents before crapcom slashed the dev's time & money allowance, you'd see they were always going for the god thing, but it was sort of a "true ending", and they never had enough time to build up to/explain it in the final release.
If anyone has the pics of the original story flowchart, please post it.

Pungeons & Pragons?

Pen and Paper you fucking faggot.

Why have loli pawns when you can be a loli arisen with a giant man as main pawn that will carry all your stuff. And no side pawns because rolling around with a screaming 3 pawn entourage is retarded.

You just keep proving that you've never played the game and just keep parroting what you've read about it on reddit.

It's not connected to the first game so what we know about how things work should be largely ignored. I've not gotten very far into the story so I have no idea where the other dragon came from or why or how it was there. But the premise is that the White Dragon was keeping the land safe from "outside forces" and its death will lead to catastrophe, so you have to find a way to save it.

So as you say, there's no reason for it to be DD other than it trying to bank off stupid fanboys like you

Did you pick a vocation and unlock your skills at the inn yet?

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And you know, the combat and class system. You're proving that not only have you never played it, but that you also haven't bothered to do any research before making idiotic assertions.

You're a moron, you haven't even tried to say the game is good because you can't.
The game is fucking horrible the combat system, which is based around large monster fights, is flawed beyond all hell with horrible ideas that completely break the flow of combat. You keep trying to fall back on "you haven't played it" like it somehow makes the game good, or makes my experience with the game invalid. Thanks for demonstrating why capcom can never go out of business, people who defend the games so vehemently while the game in question in irredeemable trash.
Also "the classes are the same!" no they aren't you mongoloid, they randomly break up skills and the leveling/class system isn't the same at all. The crafting system is hilariously awful.

Don't worry though, I'm sure if you say "you haven't played it" I'll recognize the errors of my ways and suffer a severe mental illness and the game will magically not become awful

Do you have the same feelings for PSO2 or did the captcha boss kick your ass and now you think it's only for "stupid fanboys" as well?

Please point out the part where I said it was good.

And maybe pay more attention to post IDs.

Please stop being a braindead fanboy and I'll consider it

You have a bright future in video games journalism ahead of you.

I felt this way too, I was bored for quite a few hours. Then I stumbled into the waterfall dungeon and the joy of that experience carried me through the rest of the boring parts until I got to the end which was exceptional.

and look you go back to "y-you've never played it" because you're a dumbass.

I actually don't think he realizes he's been replying to no less than three people at this point.

I think this means we're dealing with an underage b&, a pajeet or a redditor. probably all of the above

damn you sure showed me, the game is now perfect because you defended it's honor.
The horrible enrage/spike system is gone, the horrible grind gone, the crafting system has been now replaced with an actual system, all the microtransactions are gone and free, and the story now isn't a clusterfuck.

You did it! Thank god you defended one of the worst MMOs in the modern era so such a great feat could be accomplished

Why the fuck are bandits such a fucking wall in this game? Should I not be doing the shitty ass quests that give paltry amount of xp in the starter town?

I keep forgetting how wolves hunt, they hunt in squads….. no, wait, that's seems wrong…. IT WAS IN TEAMS, RIGHT? OR BANDS?! SWARMS???

Pretty sure it's pods.

I thought it was troops.

Wolves hunt in murders

Satan confirms murders.

If you're where I think you are, you'll need to get through the bandits to reach the witchwood for the story.

The mental image of wolves hunting in pods is killing me.

Oh I already did that, dubsman. My problem are these "training" quests that want me to kill stuff that are supposedly way inside bandit territory. It's compounded by some shit I read somewhere that quests have time limit and I can't move the main quest too fast or else they disappear. Oh and that I'm a feeble sorcerer that melts whenever a hostile looks at me wrong. And that I'm playing in Hard Mode.

I guess I'll just explore the area around Grand Soren.

If you go into Gran Soren, a quest involved in the Witchwood progresses without your intervention. Nothing bad happens, story-wise, but you lose access to an area of the game and it's a pain in the ass. It's really just poorly designed, no way around it. You can play the entire game and not notice or care, so if it's your first time through I suggest ignoring that advice and just proceeding with the main quest so you can get the fun stuff sooner.

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It isn't that instant, he'll need to go through a few main quests first in Gran Soren, and then the quest is given to him. That one won't even fail unless he goes to fight the dragon. I did all the optional quests first so I didn't miss it but if he's a mage he isn't going to like what's hiding in that hidden area.

Quests don't have time limits instead certain quests can either fail or disappear once you pass a certain main quest stage.
dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Quests
Besides even if you miss a few you can redo them in NG+,
If you want to level up faster play on Hard Mode you gain double EXP although your game progression is reset you don't loose anything though it's just another way of forcing a NG+ early even though it's called hard mode and you take more damage due to the double exp it's more easier in my opinion in the long run.

Dubsmasters, will a sorcerer be able to take hits eventually? I just did the Selene escort to the healing spring quest and I think I just shaved a few months off my actual lifespan out of sheer frustration fighting a handful of archers.

Not really, no. You may end up being able to take one or two hits but you aren't going to be tanking anything as a sorcerer on hard mode, so make sure to have plenty of healing items and Angel's Periapts. Good news for you is that after a certain point in the game death becomes a non-issue since wakestones basically fall onto your lap unless you are fighting one boss.

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Canines hunt in Clans, heartless.

Is there any reason NOT to use the Set of Queen's Clothing early on in the game for female characters? Seems like it alone out matches everything that can be sold to me, which is a shame because it looks like ass on my character.

One of the best games I have ever played. I dropped it after about 30 mins on PS3 back when it released. I could see how good it was but I couldn't stomach that shitty res and framerate.

I'm so fucking glad they bought it to PC.

Because they're fucking ugly no matter what character you have

That's DLC armor or whatever. You're not really supposed to have it.

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Doesn't this mean that the game incentivizes a sorcerer to hide or keep hopping/floating to cast long range fire and forget spells? I mean why would someone with the constitution of a wet tissue paper use Necromancy or Fulmination when they not only take too long to cast, they would also disintegrate if an enemy farts at their general direction.

Ah fuck it. What I really need is to dump our mage and get a boatload of party curatives then replace her with a warrior.

With hard mode sorcerers and mages need to be extra careful since pretty much anything will deplete their HP. In normal mode there's more leeway, but they should still have others tanking and distracting the enemy.

Yeah, I'm going to take a trek back to the healing spring and stock up on 500+ bottles of delicious jesus water. I grabbed another loli fighter (which took like an hour to find) and changed my spell set up and our encounter dynamic really changed. I'm still the main reason everything grinds to a halt but I guess I better get used to hopping around the battle field and hoping no random archer snipes me mid air.

The real question that's never answered though:

Did (You) actually finish the cycle at the end of the game? Fighting yourself at the end of a NG+ makes the implication that you didn't, but at the same time, the ending pretty heavily implies that you did end the cycle - indicating that NG+ is more of an alternative take into what has happened in the past.

We will never know.

Yeah, a lack of rentals.

I hate how that shit sticks out like a sore thumb in a sea of pawns in the game. I hope the prevalence of pawns walking around wearing that shit becomes rarer as I level up.

Jesus fucking christ these escort missions. Hide or heal yourselves you fucking retards.

You brought it upon yourself.

I'm not even far enough into the game to have those.

the trick is to hurry up and explore everfall for the portcrystal first which you can do right after you reach gran soren and then run to the destination of your escort quest and plant the crystal there

Post it user.

JUST POST IT

No one uses pawns with that shit. Just make your pawn based on a character. I had a loli pawn who no one wanted, so I just made her slightly taller, recolored her eyes, and named her Paz and soon enough she was being rented out like crazy.

And for anyone who wants the artbook, here. It exceeds the 12mb limit by nearly 40 times, so vola is the only option.

volafile.org/r/e610n1r8

It increased recently, it is 16 now. Not that it matters for the artbook of course.

Why am I still reading this, just to suffer?

This Maelstrom spell is ridiculous. Took out 1/4th of a chimera's total health with one cast. I really need a casting speed buff though. Half the time I'm praying to Allah the enemies don't notice me trying to change the climate.

If you have other nerds in your party they'll join in the cast and speed it up. Mages can do it too, they don't even need to be sorcs.

Fuck. My body wasn't ready.

Daily remember that you start the game thinking you're Guts, then you get to the end and realize you were Griffith all along.

Several of those ideas were developed in Dragon's Dogma Online.

Is DDO worrh a shot? I don't wanna play online.

The Sorcerer's augment "Articulacy" shortens cast times by 10%, the Wyrmking's Ring also does the same thing and yes they stack.
The ring is a quest item you have to turn in but you can forge it at the black cat and give the Duke the fake, you wont get the Paladin's Mantle from the chest but that cape isn't really worth it there's a far better one right outside the Grigori fight.

Only if you have friendos to play with. It takes ages to grind up the resources needed to get even 2 pawns, and the third around 1 month of play.

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Damn. I'd get a mage but I really need the extra wall to prevent getting shanked. I have 2 fighters and 1 strider. Anything else has me dying all the time. If only my qt loli could handle multiple dicks.

Huh. That's a pretty novel mechanic, giving fake quest items for usable stuff.

No only Sorcerer's can spell sync and even then only certain spells can be synced.
dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Spell_Synching
Unless they changed it in the PC/Xbone/NoGames4 versions

Low resolution, but should convince you to download the whole thing.

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What are the chances that a proper sequel would happen?

To be more specific: orcs, slimes, behemots and giants (pudgy type) are in DD Online. As for daemons, they evidently turned into daimon.

Has there ever been a company that has fallen as hard as Capcom? I think in terms of being the highest, as in producing the best quality games, to producing such utter dreck and making such terrible decisions, no company has fallen further.
There are companies that are worse than Capcom, but they were never as good as Capcom was at their best, so it doesn't really count if you compare highs to lows.
I just want the original DD as was planned

It would be more feasible to cleanse DD Online of the mmoshit and sell it as single.

Has that ever happened?

There's been some rare cases: Phantasy Star Universe was released as a standalone singleplayer game; Disney Infinity was discontinued, castrated of the multiplayer component and repacked with all amiibo features already unlocked. disney milks their fanbase like no other

Selene knows who you are in NG+, but can't quite understand why since she is something between pawn and human. I think another pawn references your choice as well. Being lovecraftian abominations that exist outside of time and space gives them a bit of an understanding of what is going on.

Plus, the godsbane is pulled from the previous god's chest.

Weren't there issues related to the straight up gameplay that were related to the MMO, but just make it not as fun to play as DD?

You can't play it without a VPN, so very few actually played it: so most will just tell you what they heard, that's it's all shit in every part of it, because imageboards.

The gameplay is borderline identical: it's a blast to play in coop, but the classes were butchered to push single roles. I.e. the ranger can only use ranged, there's an actual tanking class, and generally no hybrid classes.

The major hurt comes from the fact that several comfort features are locked behind the monthly pass. Like the player stash, which free users can only manage at the main base: it's designed to annoy you. But not as much as being unable to respec as in Phantasy Star Online 2.

POST THE DAMN ARTBOOK

And then as you run around as an invisible ghost you wonder: is this what doing everything wrong feels like?

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Konami, maybe?
Sega may have had that title at a time, but they've been pretty shit for a while now, with the occasional good game.

Sega has never been great.

You're expected to finish the game like 5 times before you go to Bitterblack.

Absolute Spunk Marauder.

You can do BBI from level 1, granted you're going to be using a lot of throw blasts and Dragon’s Spits.

I'm still salty over Monster hunter Worlds, they're abandoning their loyal audience to cater to the casual market, but even so I still think Konami is the worst I can't think of a single company that ruined their own reputation that quickly and efficiently, usually when a company fucks up badly you still have a few die hard fanboys defend them but I have not seen a single person white knight Konami.

So I met a roaming dragon. Tried to fight it but it flew away. What's the deal with that? Do I need to damage it fast and hard? I barely got two Maelstrom in before it left.

Was it the one north of Gran Soren and South of that figure caved in the hill? if so then it's a well known glitched Dragon that has a very annoying habit of flying off into the sea but for some reason the brine doesn't hurt him and he just flies off the map edge never to be seen again.
He's the only dragon in the game with that glitched AI.
The best way to kill it is to climbon it as soon as you can because if he gets airborne his AI will almost always bugs out.

I dunno about figure caves but it was a dragon that was near an rest camp almost within hobgoblin territory. It just flew, music kept blaring then mission failed. I hope I get to see it again.

The dragon had to make sure it's gold is still where it belongs, Mr. Seinfeld.

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According to steam spy it sold almost over 800 thousand copies, for a five year old port I would say that's pretty good plus it's also on GOG but I can't find a site listing their sales numbers.

Damn, that's pretty nice. I thought it was less than 300k.
That gives me some hope.

The one in the south near the lake? It happens to fucking everyone, you have to kill them quickly or they'll fuck off and (probably) not coming back. Killing them quickly is more about stats than anything else though. Move on and come back later.

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It regularly goes on sale for a pittance though. What would be a real shame is when they eventually kill the servers for this game.

ljl enjoy your ADD retard

I wish I knew about the Bastion augment from the get go. It would have saved my dinky little ass a bunch of hurt.

That's just bad taste. I've got the ADD and Dragon's Dogma is one of my favorite games.

Is strider a fun class to use on BitterBlack?
I'm planning to do either a full strider or a mystic knight run.

Strider/Ranger is the best if you want to cheese bosses like Death and Daimon

How the hell do I make loli pawns look attractive? All the ones I make look hideous.

This is the most accurate summation of this game

don't make lolis they're useless

I cry everytim.
though she fucks up every now and then

I don't care about use, I care about protecting lolis from horny ogres.

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My nigga.

I always saw it basically as the final trap - you're given the godsbane and you're reverse-psychology'd hard into wanting to kill yourself to be rebellious and "break the cycle". Then when you stab yourself, all of your humanity is siphoned out of you and dumped into your pawn who takes your place, and you remain the robotic seneschal to languish in your invisithrone for centuries.
It's pretty tidy. The arisen are fucked if they do, fucked if they don't, and even the promise of escape is a lie.

The Dragonforged is at least 1000 years old himself, which is at least how long the current dragon has been alive. Since there have been many, many dragons we can assume this cycle has been going for 10-20 thousand years or more. Daimon and his Dragon (a.k.a. his "mother and lover" as he calls her) isn't even that likely to be the dragon-arisen combo immediately preceding the current dragon since his Dragon's dogma was different, specifically the bargain: "Make your choice and you can have anything you wish" like a genie, which was later revised in future models of dragon to "Make your choice and I don't fuck you're waifu" since Daimon exploited the fuck out of that loophole.

The real question is why is nobody acknowledging that Coils of Light is objectively the best somber boss theme in all vidya?

AWWW YEAHHHH
T-thanks.

When your pawn dies rather than being released, you get nothing. He probably fell into a puddle and melted. What a gaffe.

You may call me a faggot but it made me cry

>He fucking snaps and curses the entire order, thoughtlessly wishing aloud that he had the power to unmake the natural order of the world

Yeah, nah, you're fine.

It uses steamworks. Unless Steam goes down, the servers aren't going anywhere.

Your statement about changing the offer is a bit off I feel.

The only difference for Daimon and the Duke is that choosing to fight the dragon, the option that should be correct became impossible for Daimon to select as either choice ends with him directly responsible for the death of one of his loved ones. This caused him to scorn the world and the arisens fate and refuse to fight. The Dragon considered this refusal to fight acceptance of the bargain as either way, he doesn't display the will needed to become seneschal and therefore must face consequences. The curse twisted him into an existence defined by hatred. It seems it still grants whatever the arisen desires and retains the monkey paw/genie jewery portion of granting said desire alongside the sacrifice, but the game cannot allow the player to "Make any wish" and therefore uses fame, money and power as the "blanket" temptation. The reveal of the dukes acceptance of the wish coincides with this temptation likely just to bolster the impact of the reveal.

Alternatively, coils of light is the lament Grette (lover) holds for the sorry state her arisen and loved one is now in as the Japanese version is sung instead by a female.

Feeling the overflowing warmth that piled from time to time
The memory of the old feelings

To the sea of endless cycle.
Wandering the world’s darkness

Without saying goodbye
For the loved one that we parted

So, advance and don’t stop.
Follow the dragon’s dogma
Unbound by time,
connecting the sky and the land

This scar on my chest,
what are you trying to say?

What if this false fate we live for
, was only a dream

What are we fighting for?
Please tell us
Illuminate us all
Coils of lights

That's a relief considering there's no stopping the Steam train.

Incidentally, all of my pawns just jumped into the brine inside the Watergod Altar cave. Stupid cute pawns. Now I really have to give their owners gifts. What's decent gift for lvl 30+ dudes? Also, how come the pawns at my same level running around the city and the rift have way cooler stuff than me? I'm still rocking the basic stuff from Caxton. These sorcs have eternally glowing bits and stuff.

Somewhat makes my interpretation that this song is from Grette (lover) to Daimon less plausible unless we take this to mean this is also from the perspective of Olra whom is possessed by Grette (lover) and is wondering what her scar (Grette-Lover) is trying to say.

People who have completed the game starting over that are running to high level areas acquiring powerful gear early.
Perhaps people who have received lots of gifts from high level players or friends, gifting them OP gear early.
Perhaps lots of pawns have been eternally benched and only now their arisen show them love and have given them gear, resulting in a level 100 Arisen with a level 30 pawn holding great gear.
Hell, they might not even have that much better gear than you, just you haven't found a vendor offering the alternate gear. Madeline might hold early elemental enchanted gear causing the difference. Madeline can be found if you do the quest to follow the "Night Champion" or explore Gran Soren more if you haven't found her.

I got really good feels making my character grow old overtime. I hope DD2 has a cheaper shape-shifting spell.

10/10

user, there will never be a DD2…

There probably will be but it won't be what we imagine it to be.

hate it when these threads come up, makes me wanna play it all over again. then I usually decide not to and then writhe in painful nostalgia for a while.

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I could take out 3/4 of its health but it does this move which kills all my pawns and I have to revive them but by then it gets to chomp on my face. Do I have to micromanage these pawns?

Really the only difference between then and now is that now I'm fucking swimming in gold and then I was wasting time fagging around with carrots on Cassardis to make enough money to scrape by equipment. Then there's all the BBI stuff that I never played waiting for me when I kill the dragon.

Bring healing spring water and just spam the fuck out of it to keep them all alive.

The Devilfire Grove drake isn't bugged. It just has a limited area in which you can fight it before it flies away. You have to fight it in those woods, which, is fine as long as you don't go too far in the woods where several hobgoblins will get in the mix. I think time is also a factor. Try and stay fairly close to the 2 big rocks separating the pond from the forest.

As for him killing your pawns, that never stops being an issue. Dragon roars down pawns. The only thing you can do about it is be very johhny on the spot and have enough Stagger/Knockdown power to interrupt it, or mitigate it a little bit by having a pawn with Legion's Might equipped. Dragons are like guaranteed to roar if you bust off a horn. I think pawns with the Tenacity augment can also survive it but the chances of finding a pawn with that augment at that level are nil.

Trying to solo Bitterblack Isle as a Sorcerer, it's going pretty well (I can kill most things in Rotundra of Dread with endless throwblasts) but I'm at a stop with the first boss, the giant Beholder. I can't cast fast enough to get anything meaningful off before its small tentacles cast on my location, and it's never close enough to get throwblasts in its eye. I'm rank… 7? Sorcerer now, so I have the option of taking Maelstrom, but I still need to grind up some DCP to get it (easy enough, now that I have the double DCP ring). Still only level 33 or so.

Any advice for how to wreck this thing (sans grinding for ten hours) so I can go lower into the dungeon?

focused bolt

I have it, haven't tried it on anything with more health than a bunny, though. Is it that strong? I guess I'll need to put the Boons back on, then.

holy focused bolt

Why is archery so fun in this game when it's so boring in most other games?

Twink Pawns used to be a thing back in the day.
There was a guy here who took advantage of gear to make the ultimate Twink Pawn. The little shit was outfitted in BB3 armor and weapons, all at maximum forging level, and was only Level 51. I believe he did it by using alternate Steam accounts via family sharing to send shit over to another character.

She was pretty much raking in more RC than any other.

This is bait

Impact actually does something. The sound, the knockdown, the abilities.

I have a fuck ton of spring water. He kills them with one wing sweep even with full health and with my tank pawn at braced shield. I want to search the internet but I also want to fight this guy blind. I'll come back to this dude when we get better gear.

Tricky bastard.

Reminder that warrior is the best class and you can easily solo ogres at level 10 even with trash gear.

It's better to use high end gear anyways because when you defeat him there's a small chance that equipped gear will become "dragonforged" and have better stats than 3 star.

This goes for everything. Melee combat is satisfying, magic is satisfying, archery is satisfying, everything has just the right amount of meaty thick hitstop.

Damn. That's cool. Is Bitterblack Isle post game content or could I fuck around that place in the middle of the game without it showering me with super high level gear?

The opening few levels of Bitterblack have some pretty good, but not great, gear. If you delve far enough down (hard to do on accident, trust me), then the gear you can find is better than endgame stuff.

By nature of it being accessed from Cassardis, available at the start of the game, and Cassardis selling Throwblasts, it's actually a really good place to level up early on and to grab some armor and weapons that will boost you through the early game pretty quickly.

NEVER SAY NEVER!

Could always use a staff with the mystic knight, unless you're trying to minmax stats.

I wanna be a sorcerer though. In any case, I sort of mitigated the damage by taking the Bastion augment. It really helps. Now I get to focus on being an ice/thunder wizard instead of always having fire and maelstrom all the time. Also this maelstrom shit is OP as fuck.

at around level 30 you can clear the first run, though some enemies you probably won't be able to damage very well or at all.

Is it just me or is there a supreme lack of variety in gear in the first half of the game?

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Is this the future of thread recaps? I like it.

It requires more skill than a simple screenshot (and we now even have a screencap button on the site itself), so possible not. But it would be nice if it did happen more often.

I wanna be a sorcerer though. In any case, I sort of mitigated the damage by taking the Bastion augment. It really helps. Now I get to focus on being an ice/thunder wizard instead of always having fire and maelstrom all the time which is OP as fuck. Is it just me or is there a supreme lack of variety in gear in the first half of the game?

Oh and why did they use Bethesda's voice actors for some of the male pawns? It's really jarring to hear them here. Anyways, turning this game into a preteen coming of age adventure for girls is really fun. I wish more western RPGs give you the option to be a kid.

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#woke

Damn. Why did I read this? Ruined my fucking week.

Can you rolplay in this game? I know it's an RPG, but just look at The Witcher. A good adventure game, but you are given a fully flesh out character, and there's no space for rolplaying.

Is there space for creating your own character with it's own personality and morals or is every desition forced onto you like in Fallout 4?

I don't care too much about clunky gameplay hell, I even managed to enjoy Skyrim, I'd just like to play a good RPG that's truly a rol playing game, and not just an action/adventure gay with stats, levels, and perk trees. I've been eyeing Dragons Dogma for a while. Do you think I may like it?

The game is fairly linear, but a lot of the sidequest have multiple solutions, although they are not very obvious. Gameplay wise is pretty good, although it takes some time to get good. Character creation is good too. Sadly the main storyline is completely devoid of choices. You are only able to choose your love interest.

wolves hunt in P**** arisen

Allah is a false god

Major plot points are pretty non-negotiable to reach the final ending, but there are a lot of different ways to go about things that allow for a reasonable level of role playing for an rpg with comparatively developed combat. This may spoil discovering some of the less apparent mechanics in the game for yourself, but if your interested an example would be one quest that has you collecting an ancient tome to deliver to an NPC. First you track the tome down to a bandit camp, and the camp leader provides you with two different sub-quests to prove your worth, at which point he will give you the tome. One of the quests is to kill members of a rival bandit camp, another quest is to deal with a deserter to his camp, a character which has a short, missable side quest dedicated to him much earlier in the game as well. However, and the game doesn't even give the impression that the tome would have a physical location, you can actually just 'steal' the tome from a particular chest that's slightly hidden away in the camp.
Once you have the tome and are ready to deliver it to the NPC you have another completely non-apparent option, which is to take it to the forger in town and have him make a copy, letting you keep the original and giving him a powerless fake (which impacts another event a little later in the game). But really, the book is practically worthless, probably less than paying for the forgery, and 'stealing' the tome from the bandit leader just amounts to aimlessly platforming around the camp until you stumble upon it, there's no NPC camp member carelessly blurting out the location or a member of the rival camp that might hint at where he keeps his valuables if you were to get on their good side, the chest is just sort of… there.
Either way there definitely is room for roleplaying, but it isn't exactly fleshed out, so you'd have to be doing a lot of the role making on your own.

Thanks for the update.

I get what you're saying, but The Witcher is based on a series of books centered around that character.
You can't roleplay in this game any more than you can in most other modern RPGs.

might have to pick this game up

It gets even better!

so if i make a little fighter girl will i have trouble with shit described in the pic?

They can carry their own weight (so to speak) regardless. Their only real problem is the carry weight limit which will hinder them from equipping really heavy stuff so you're going to have to carry all the party curatives yourself.

I highly suggest installing a few QoL mods though like the less brighter lanterns or infinite carry weight so you can lessen the inventory management and focus on adventuring more instead.

i found those mods and a vignette remover which is currently doing its thing. i saw some decent enb's but ill check those out later. thanks for the advice, user.

install the no-weight-limit mod, or it will became a pain in the ass playing with lolis

Best decision I've made so far

Bought the game 3 times. Loved the hell out of it, but I'll agree with this.

The player really should have horse if they're going to be going across the land with long stretches of mostly nothing.

But it didn't bother me that too bad, because I'm autistic about scavenging resources in the field, so I was always doing something, but that can be tedious for most people.

I know where this is heading.

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Thanks. I'll probably play the game sometime soon, but doesn't seem to be what I'm looking for right now.

Yeah, the issue I have is the fact that they call Rol Playing Games (RPG) to things that have absolutely no rol playing in them. This makes finding the few good rol playing games for PC quite challenging. I wish the videogame press wasnt so retaded.

I wanted to thank and , not myself ( )

At the start of the game, whatever vocation you choose, make sure to get Warrior's Bastion augment. Put it on your pawn too.

RPGs in vidya is a very different beast to PnP RPGs. I'm not sure how you missed that memo for more than two decades.

I thought the world was small enough as it is, adding a horse would only make it smaller.

Shit, I forgot to say if you're on PC, drop your steamid and I'll rent your pawn regardless of level. I rent any cute loli I can find.