How is the original Halo not nostalgic? It's an old game now. Over 15 years old

BUT IT'S POPULAR WITH THE N⚪RMIES

user it's time to move on. It's 2017.

Kill yourself, bungie shilling kike.

Go look at european history.

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The single player is shit, and if Halo Custom Edition is representative of the original multiplayer, it's also shit.

I dropped hundreds of hours on single player and co-op campaign on CE. I can beat legendary without even trying. I hust have autism and have to save all the marines when they show up.

I still remember the joke threads where people pretended to be underage and nostalgic for Halo and the original Xbox.

Regardless of the law, there's a lot of refugees "making history" with and without consent!

Did the exact same thing.

Almost a real nigger

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That moment when fog of war doesn't hide the enemy base so much as actively reveal its location.

>>>Holla Forums

"You must be at least this autistic to post"

It's one of the cancerous tumors that specifically contributed to killing vidya and is only looked upon with nostalgia by fucking dudebro casual garbage. But I do have shameful amounts of nostalgia for lurking Gamefaqs and watching the omega butthurt that would erupt when Xbox kiddies would brag about their l33t Gaylo sk1llz and then somebody would point out the game had autoaim

look at you, using those mean words. hope no noe tells your mom.

God damn I miss the days back before the Gamespot merger

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What an absolutely retarded concept. So by your standards we aren't allowed to like
-Mario
-Halo
-CoD 1 or 2
-LoZ
-Dark Souls
-Doom
-Basically any game of note

So good, everyone was fucking retarded there like they are here. Can't you cucks fathom how to address a fucking system properly.

Halo was cancer at the time, user. You could actually watch the FPS genre die right before your eyes on November 15th 2001. To see all those children have their "minds blown" over a "groundbreaking" game that didn't do anything new was depressing and horrible because you knew the writing was on the wall. These were the next generation of gamers and they didn't know shit about video games.

Gamespot was so much better before the merger too. Fuck.

PSX is how it's supposed to be, this matter has been settled for a decade now.

Except the forums. Gamespot had absolute shit-tier posters. You think nu/v/ is bad, christ.

If you're a uneducated nigger, you'd probably settle for PSX instead of the correct term.

Halo was fun as shit due to enemy variety and cool weapons. It was released when everyone was doing tactical/WW2 shooters, and it gave us neat ass plasma weapons that are best when paired up with standard bullet weapons. Even now you don't get games where weapon combos work like they did in Halo. Everyone just has "Close range/Long Range."

And the enemy variety was neat as hell too. Each engagement was fun because you would decide what order to pick off enemies. Do you take out the grunts first and work your way up? But if an Elite rushes you he can kill you easily, so maybe peg him first? Enemies with the same weapon even had specific ways of using said weapons. Jackals and Grunts both used plasma pistols, but Grunts liked to charge them up and overload them, while Jackals would do short bursts. I would LOVE it if more people compied the shit that made Halo good. Instead everyone copied the 2 weapon limit and regenerating health.

Considering the unit refers to itself as the PS-X in the BIOS, you're the nigger here.

Where on the original console box does it say PSX you nigger? Because it says Playstation, and then came along the PS2, that clearly makes it '1'. It's not Playstation 10 now.

wew case in point. I'm glad you enjoyed Gaylo, but user, you were a casual child back when you played it and you're still a casual child now

You've had over a decade to kill yourself and you still haven't done it.

Underage, get out.

Daily reminder that using "muh" before words doesn't make it an argument and neither does greentexting what an user says
You're literally someone who scoffs at other people but can't be assed to say anything meaningful about it and back up anything you say
basically you're a little bitch

Good job faggot.

sure is, burger eternal kid

Well no butthurt there at all. Oh man Halo kids are justas easily rustled today as they were 17 years ago. This really is turning out to be a nostalgia thread

We just had almost exactly this thread, and I remember because I made this same post replying to it. Halo is disliked on Holla Forums, rather than thought of nostalgically, not because it's terrible, but because it's a simplification of its genre, and a step back from where it was. It getting pushed as the hot new shit by marketing, and then parroted by kids who had obviously just gotten into games with the Xbox was infuriating. This image exists for a reason.

Are you ready for skyrim nostalgia threads

Still not an argument user

I'd like Halo if it didn't make that good looking salt raifu a MOTHERFUCKING PEASHOOTER THAT MISSES 99% OF THE TIME

fuck

I already laid out my argument and you proved it, my man or should I say boy

You didn't lay out an argument, user. You said "nuh uh!" like the child you're claiming the user you're replying to of being.

I'll just play Minerva: Metastasis again and cry myself to sleep.

I argued that Gaylo didn't do anything new or noteworthy at the time and was only praised by children who didn't know any better, and then b96cd5 came in and praised it for things that weren't new or noteworthy at the time like a child who doesn't know any better.

I'd say my argument about a videogame is airtight and I win life. Can you say the same?

A mission so good the demo was about as good as the whole game

This video was made in 2012. Reddit was already making nostalgia threads for games that came out 2005 enough that they could be parodied. 2012-2005=7. Skyrim came out in 2011. 2017-2011=6. If this trend follows, we have one more year before the first major wave of children having nostalgia for Skyrim.

At least I can't hate children for liking Skyrim as much as the adults who like it. When I played, I saw how I could think it would be great, as long as you never noticed the "Truman Show"-esque edges around the sandbox. Kids can more easily buy into an experience like that, but adults have no excuse for not realizing the whole game is a bunch of cardboard props pretending to be a world.

There's a difference between being nostalgic for something that released this decade and the past decade you fucktard

I fucking get it now. Redditors are that cousin you had around your age that was extremely pampered by his mother. That cousin that was afraid of going to the cinema to see Finding Nemo because of the sharks. The one that was only permited to watch educational cartoons or some shit like that well into his teens.

We have dozens of Halo threads and even halo game nights, wtf are you talking about mr newfag?

To be fair cuckchan did have a reputation for being wall-to-wall childporn and gore, which probably caused equal parts relief and disappointment to ledditors who worked up to the courage to click it.

that never stopped me
maybe you were that cousin/neighbour?

This was supposed to be a nostalgia general but it turned into Halo-posting

VIDEO GAMES

I almost feel pity

Am I understanding you correctly? 7 years is 7 years. The weight people put on decades is only because the calendar system allows you to generalize about cultural trends over specific periods of time and get nostalgic for the years as an abstraction of all of the events therein, rather than the events themselves. The events would have happened and eventually been treated as nostalgic whether or not the concepts of calendars or years existed.

This never should have changed.

I was that kid, which is part of why I went to 4chan in the first place. Realizing that you're under censorship only leads to resentment about it, and exploration to figure out what else has been withheld from you.

holy fuck what game is this? Halo 5 pc or something?

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It could be ElDewrito.

how do I get in on it

I will post the thread, check the catalog

Fug, it'll be up later, keep an eye out

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halo 3 on PC, basically
nobody knows about it though, in spite of the millions who want halo 3 onn PC

I think nostalgia is usually an emotion reserved for fond memories. The game that ruined console FPS forever while we spent years wondering how people would finally follow up to Perfect Dark was not a fond memory.

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Anyones favorite video game is always shit, always and no matter what

ETA? Trying to decide if I go buy bread now or in an hour or two.

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Build a time machine and go back about 2 years
I miss playing with you niggers

saying halo ruined gaming is like saying metal gear solid ruined gaming. it was one of the first games to be heavily story based and with lots of cutscenes along with final fantasy 7. Are they tumorous bad games too?

Be the change you want to see

Who is the other user who hosts? I always forget but I really want to get one of Mark's weekend gaming things to reboot the shitposting swat gamesor just racing eurobeat custom gaymes

I like how you think bringing up MGS and FF7 is some sort of be all end all protection against criticism, but in reality they're tumorous bad games

user, I don't see how the fuck you expected him to respond any differently than

Halo was probably the first fps to properly implement a complex ai system based on behavioural trees and it still has the best vehicle implementation in the genre, it's the only fps (well, maybe except for milsims like pr/squad) where vehicles actually contribute to the experience, expanding the possible approaches to the sandbox in single player and creating an interesting dynamic for map control in multiplayer.

Halo is the best FPS that's actually a racing game.

Nigger it started as Haloposting

I miss you too, user.

What does that make this? Three in the same thread? Beautiful.

Like pottery.

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Go calm your vexation with some dew and doritos, kid.

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Hahaha holy shit you ARE a loser. Polite sage because you're a serious waste of organic matter if at all

You know, there's the excuse of you being a 12 year old who didn't know shit about vidya back then and thought Halo was a good FPS because you just didn't know better, but it's been over a decade and these shit eaters haven't grown at all and there's no excuse for that.

Bunch of faggots jumping on a hate bandwagon because God forbid anyone holds an individual opinion nuanced by any sort of critical thought.

What? What are you implying? That I'm an inorganic life form? Ha ha get out of here user

Funny how the shit-eating fanboys always rearrange the critics' argument into this strawman. Reflexive mental gymnastics because the real world is too painful to confront?

No, Halo was fucking shit and it had a damaging impact on the genre.

No, Gaylo was mediocre at best and the damage it did runs a lot deeper than inspiring some shitty ripoffs. If you want an example of a good game that gets unfair flak for simply spawning bad clones see Half Life.

FFVII is a 6/10 at best and its narrative and cutscene-drive cinematic style has had a very negative impact on game design since. I've never played a Metal Gear Solid game but I surmise from having played other Kojima games that it is a cancerous pile of cinemaplay excrement.

Nice try

Calling it "nostalgic" would mean we wish games could be like it again. Games are still like it and I wish this wasn't the case. Therefore, Halo is not nostalgic.

Halo 1 was shit. Halo 3 was 7/10. Not some mind blowing piece of excellent, but a game that had excellent visual and auditory presentation, with good enemy variety. It lacked depth, but serves the role of an enjoyable sci-fi run-and-gun FPS.

Let's not go overboard now. Gamespot was never good.

There will be no Skyrim nostalgia for a while because that shit keeps getting rereleased every year.

Yep, it's the classic example of how ironic shitposting begets unironic shitposting.

No it doesn't?

The retranslation makes the story better

But user, how will you ever know if love can bloom on the battlefield? It's the game that made Kojimu famous, but on the plus side, it's also pretty great if you like the idea of well done arcadey stealth interspersed with well done b-movie cutscenes.

I think you're confusing Halo with Half-Life.

You know Halo is a console shooter, right?

The story isn't the problem. It's the unskippable cutscenes and other non-gameplay fluff, and the level of challenge that is so low that the depth of mechanics is entirely wasted that give FFVII poor replayability and make me unable to rate it higher than a 6/10. Shame too, I've always liked its side questing content.

Please, explain what was so shit about Halo. Is it the fact that it wasn't Quake or Tribes? Is it that Perfect Dark or Deus Ex or System Shock were deeper games, and how dare Halo do what it did for itself and be popular?

Seriously, what is the problem with it? The gameplay was tight, it felt good to play, and the solo campaign was overall pretty well done. The weapon system was lacking, sure, and mostly boiled down to pistol or sniper rifle, and maybe a shotgun, but the game was not shit.

The hatred of the game is really just a reaction to the nostalgia people have for it now, the wild popularity of the game at the time of its release, and a bitter belief that if you do like Halo, then *clearly* you've never played a real FPS from the period and have no real understanding of the genre and what it could have been.

We get it. There are better games that existed and better mechanics and ludological theories that could've been explored if only that trash Halo didn't get released. Oh, if *only* Halo was never made! Nevermind the fact that everyone will suck the cock of Resident Evil 4 which also singlehandedly killed an entire genre of games, or applaud Morrowind after it heavily neutered its predecessor of its deeper design.

Jesus Christ, get over yourself.

Leftist logic at its finest really
>BUT WAIT, I JUST REALIZED NOBODY IN THE NEW GROUP HAS EVER HAD X BAD THING HAPPEN TO THEM
THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT
STOP DOING THE THING THAT HURTS EVERYBODY WHEN YOU DO IT

I said it was better, not good. Pic related was the best and if it wasn't then don't fucking tell me

Upon reflection, I think Halo 1 actually did a few things right. Firstly by making Grenades a one-button item rather than something you had to specifically pull out to use, thus making them actually usable.

The elephant in the room is always the regenerating health, but Halo didn't have fully regenerating health. You had a shield that might grant you a few hits, but then you were taking damage to a non-regenerating pool. This was actually a smart thing to do as it allowed both developers and players to move along with a certain level of confidence that they aren't one hit away from death. Regenerating health isn't a bad thing, FULLY regenerating health is, especially when you have no actual indicator of health besides strawberry jam cam.

And then they fucked it up with OHK Jackal snipers in the sequel. Good job, Bungie.

It's not leftist thinking, it's an experiment demonstrating Cargo Cult thinking, which is likely what is used by leftists to keep sheep in the dark, and make them ignorant of Communism's death toll.

u fucking wot

It describes how every community works. Since you appear to have missed the point, it goes like this: Every community always has a flux of new members coming in and old members drifting away. If you don't have the new member flux your community simply cannot last. Members of image board community decide to start making an ironic joke about how much they love something they in fact hate. Joke gets taken a little too far. New members with tastes and ideas that are normally the object of ridicule come in, see the ironic shitposting, but are unable to recognize it as ironic, thus thinking that they are in good company. This continues until enough user replacement occurs that the irony stops, and they genuinely are in good company.

And so, new users replace older ones and a community's aggregate opinion drifts over time. I remember the exact summer that this happened for Halo on 4/v/. You faggots took that Captain King shit too far and we were left with a bunch of tasteless retards who wouldn't leave when fall rolled over.

Sure thing.

-forced autoaim
-2-weapon limit
-regenerating health mechanic that fed back to influence bad level design

It was a slow console shooter that didn't do anything new, or anything particularly well, but children who had never played a proper FPS before thought it was the tightest shit. It the spawned dewrito casual dudebro cancer that infects vidya to this day and it set the bar for the FPS genre so very very low. It wasn't Duke, Doom, or Half Life at the top anymore. It was Gaylo. And it made recharging health a fucking trope.

The only really good thing about Gaylo was blowing up a Warthog full of niggers with a grenade. That was legitimately good fun. In every other aspect it was dull as dishwater.

Also objectively shit opinion. The gameplay felt like I was riding around in one of those plastic vehicles for toddlers. It was not "tight". It did not feel "good to play".

What are some other FPSs that played like Halo, then?

What part of "the image" do you not understand?
It just points out that monkeys do one thing(Okay, cool, but not a basis for a argument), and that humans do it too(Still no), then tells you to spread it around because the image itself works by having your fellows see you reposting it to make you think "gee, my fellow friends sure are into this fad"
Imagine your post does not exist for a moment and focus on the image.

He is probably saying that because his only point of comparison was other console shooters.
Which explains why he is spouting so much nonsense defending Halo.

Team Fortress did it first. Hell, it probably wasn't even first but it did it before Gaylo.

Sorry, I can't really think of any slow, boring, ungodly overhyped FPS games with cancerous health systems from before Gaylo off the top of my head. Team Fortress was an infinitely better team-based multiplayer FPS, though, if that's what you mean.

It wouldn't be a common mechanic if Halo hadn't done it. Companies copy successful formulas, especially ones that set contemporary sales records. If Halo had bombed, another game would have had to be just as successful with a grenade hotkey.

Oh man, I have one for you here.

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lel okay, Gaylo kid. Tell me more about how your first FPS invented everything. It wasn't even the first FPS to incorporate usable vehicles in multiplayer

It was a good game. If you want to talk about a piece of shit talk about Half Life

Anita confirmed for shitposting on Holla Forums

I never even cared about Quake when Halo came out and still don't really find it that interesting. I was still busy with Descent II, Perfect Dark, and later Battlefield 1942.

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Oh yeah?

I just noticed the dates, fuck. RIP I wonder if the karma helped

Nice strawmen, faggot.
Halo is wasted potential. It somehow made a genocidal xeno space religion/empire forgettable, then gave them great AI and wasted it in a series of boring, badly-paced levels ranging from mediocre to truly awful. It then hands the player an arsenal of worthless peashooters and forces him to pick two of the least useless, only to take away the interesting enemies and force him to crawl backwards through the game's worst levels while fighting The Flood, strong contender for most boring FPS enemy of all time.

a control scheme doesn't make a game exactly like another

If you liked this game you are the definition of a pleb.

I have yet to see anyone explain in detail why Halo is bad

Console shooter with generic weaponry, coD in space.
I mean there were console shooters that although shit at least had something spirit like Perfect Dark and Time Splitters.

nice trips but thats just incorrect, its nothing like COD, in fact when halo 3 came out everything was COD like EXCEPT halo
you must not have been around at the time

Halo is just CoD with space gun skins, always has been.
Check out Perfect Dark or Time Trigger to see what an original console FPS looks like, Halo is just the same game as BLACK and CoD, all the same uninspired insipid recycled game over and over with different skins.

you are retarded

Halo? More like gaylo.

No really get fuck off this board.

-t. HL2 fan

Is this the 6th butthurt Gaylo kid ITT? honestly I've lost count but not a bit of smugness The sad part is they always think their first FPS is good, so they never discover any actual good ones.

I'm clearly not I would have enjoyed Halo otherwise.

jesus christ this is pathetic

This is what blows my mind, just like the xXSEPHI666ROTXx and people still playing League of Legends, how do these people still exist?

I never even played the series. And I don't even know what is going on in this thread.

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lmao

Truly you are improving this board with every post you make.

Never played it. More of a Turok 2, Prey 2006, SW Republic commando, FEAR 2005. The Darkness 2007, Vampire the Masquerade. Sort of guy, so not mush of a first person shooter fag.

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the darkness is probably the best game you listed, there aren't many first person shooters that are worth anyones time. the entire genre needs to be ended.

it is a pretty great game, maybe a bit short but oh well

See, this is the first actual example of someone explaining their reasons for Halo sucking.

They're shit reasons, but you at least laid out some sort of argument.

Genuine fun if you want to play an arena shooter without complete and total autistic savants that reduce the game to whackamole?
Sure.
Nostalgic?
No

I play arena shooters and caused a lot of newbie rage quits, but that is definitely not why.

I don't think it needs to end. Just needs more creativity. I also played The Darkness two, but only played through it once. Wasn't as good.

Its a game that didn't want to out stay its welcome. Which I wish it did, it left me wishing for more.

It is when you've got friends over and the cognitive level hit the bottle.

I think there's been enough opportunity for creativity. I feel the best solution is to shame developers into abandoning the genre and essentially being forced to make third person games in order to compete.

About an hour ago I caused a few to rage quit because all they did was run towards me with spawn health and spawn weapons. Because I guess most people are used to shooters with load outs or full equips at spawn.

Generally I don't think FPS has the gitgud/competitive mentality like in fighting games.

Only thing I remember about Halo was how fast I dropped it when Unreal Tournament 2004 was released… way back before Cliff B became cuckmaster supreme and made good games.

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Well yeah sure, running at people with spawn health in virtually any FPS game is basically like Please kill me.
Thing is in Halo, since it's designed for consoles you can play like a dumbass and STILL have fun.

I wouldn't mind third person but I think maybe a first person option within the game would be good too. I remember playing starwars battle front, then realizing there was a 3rd person option. Kinda blew my mind, but I still went on to using 3rd person. As for shaming game developers the only way to do this not only talk shit to criticize, but don't buy there shitty fucking games. There also needs to be new blood thats not a corporate puppet. But good luck with that, the name of the game is "Dollars" & much can I accumulate without working hard.

Then the arena shooter situation isn't
if people are failing to realize they shouldn't charge in at spawn health shooting with spawn weapons.

AFAIK, TF2 and a lot of modern shooters you spawn with your 2-3 class weapons with 100% health.

Thing is arena shooters had incredible depth for something that looks like run and shoot things until they die.
If you remove every single mechanic, zone control and depth from the genre you end up with, well, Halo.

don't know when steven universe stopped being a cartoon. who did they choose for the real life counter parts?

all of id's fps games are shit because they set the stage for cod and battlefield

Look, it's hard to make a real analog comparison to the drunken decision to use a grenade to fling yourself and your warthog into a group of enemies despite that not being the optimal way of dispatching them, or even likely to work.

Thing is arena shooters had incredible depth for something that at first looks like a game with no objective besides running and shooting at things until they die or you die then repeat.
If you remove every single mechanic, zone, resource control and depth from the genre you end up with, well, Halo.

Halo has all of these, especially in 2 and 3 where there's a resource to control besides pistol ammo.

the internet was objectively better back before web 2.0 was a thing

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Well yeah, More well defined options are just objectively better design

Slow console shooter, 2 weapon limit, regenerating health, boring as fuck campaign. Can't avoid damage because you're so slow, so higher difficulties instead of making the game faster and more exciting as one would expect, make the game slower and more tedious as you have to wait on your shields constantly.

The fuck are you on about.
All enemy shots move faster on higher difficulties.
Enemies evade more and you need to reaim much more often and what in the fuck do you mean you can't avoid damage
Virtually every enemy uses projectile weapons instead of hitscan, are you just standing still like a retard or rubbing your face in an elite's chest and bitching you can't weave around shots?

Even if that point isn't right, I played it long ago and that's what my brain tells me, it's still a pretty shit game and even the simple Doom stomps it in every regard.
my point exactly?

wtf!!

DODGE you absolute retard. You can.That's why virtually all enemies are projectile based, I mean something I can give you is that halo 4 is fucking shit and just more damage taken less damage dealt when upping the difficulty, but seriously, 343 halos are notoriously shit

I feel like you should be able to play like a dumbass and still have fun in basically any game. THat usually means that the game doesn't have one end-all style of play. Like playing Fencer in EDF with only missile launcher weapons. It's dumb, but still fun as hell to do even if it's significantly less useful than an actual combat loadout. And in competitive games, it should never be at a point where a new player joins a game and literally can't do anything because everyone else has been playing non stop.
Reminds me of a random anecdote: My friend was in Korea when SC2 released. He was able to play evenly against the Koreans for the first 12 hours, until he went to sleep. After he woke up he never won another game until he came back and played on American servers.

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easier said than done with morbidly obese speed and close quarters

Bungie has a history of doing this with their games in that they usually create ideas for their game and it never comes to be. See killing regret, which was an idea for the original objective for b30, Silent Cartographer.

So wrong it hurts.Even H2 and H3 had health although it wasn't displayed, there was a health system hidden which kept track of player health. The in lore reason for this was the Mk VI contained biofoam dispensers that could heal on the go instead of needing health kits. But there used to be videos floating around showing this off, one of the vids had a guy shooting another guy in MP in the foot with a sniper. shields go down, you see blood. Dude let's shot guy recharge shields and then shoots again when dummy has full shield. Guy dies on the second shot even with full shields.

You could even argue that the "shield" in HL is just armor like in DOOM, a non regenerating thing to help pad out the health. In Halo the whole thing is the MJOLNIR Mk V and Mk VI boast a shield system that is meant to protect the user ontop of the armor. The shield can recharge provided it has time to do so. In H1 you are still fucked if you think of your shields as your health because damage in H1 bleeds over, and anyone who has played halo would tell you this. You still had health bars in H1. On easy it's not a problem enemies do piddle all for damage and their AI is comparable to a potato. On the higher difficulties you can be sacked easy if you're running around like a retard.

Actually to stop for a second, now that I think about it HL was more generous with health distribution than Halo 1. You had medkits ontop of the dispensers and those were pretty much after every encounter or so. Xen you had to rely on the healing pools which were infinite as well as medkits. Then again the situations are different, in Halo You're on a ring world with few supplies and have to make do with the scant few medkits you find, at best you'll find a whopping two whole medkits in larger piles of weapons left by either dead marine squads or hidden away. Half-Life you're in a facility you work in and thus supplies aren't hard to come by even after hell breaks loose. and if anything the soldiers coming in to kill the research teams brought MORE supplies.

Dude, are you seriously making the argument that Halo is bad because you can't git gud at it and play like a polygon reporter?

Wow you completely got me, with all that lore irrelevant to gameplay, it seems the regenerating shields are no longer your mainstay of damage absorption. Long live shitty slow console FPS.

That being said Halo's two weapon limit is something that was a result OF being on a console. The last shown E3 build (2001) had a system pretty typical of all shooters till then, it actually looked a bit like half-life's where it was a drop down thing with weapons stuck in categories.

Even then let's look at doom, when you have a Shotgun and plasma rifle do you seriously go back to the pistol? You probably don't and to say other wise means you're either lying to prop up our argument or you genuinely like the challenge of using it instead of stronger weapons in a situation. Halo's limit was interesting, console shooters in the past had done more than two but typically you'd only have a "cycle forward" and "cycle backward" button between weapons which was annoying so you typically stuck with weapons that were either strong or had lots of ammo. Games like goldeneye did have a pause menu that let you choose that way but that brought the game to a crawl as you'd stop every so often to switch. I'll be honest though if you really wanna cheese Halo 1 all you need is the Plasma pistol and Human magnum. Even against flood the magnum will dispatch combat forms. and ammo for the pistol is easy to come by as is replacement P pistols.

Your entire argument is based on a regenerating health system which is something Halo 1 didn't have and H2 and H3 to a lesser extent. Shields are not health, when you lose all your shields you don't die. That is when your health takes damage, and if you take too much THEN you die. Needler rounds are actually a good example of a thing that could fuck the player over as they did two forms of damage, impact and rupture. It's not uncommon to hear about people playing Halo having died to a lone needle hitting them while their shields and health are low, only for them to die when the round detonates.

Yes the shields are meant to soak damage but they aren't your health which is what you were arguing.
Have you tried getting gud?

People enjoyed the game long ago. How is it not nostalgic?

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No not really, and I'll give you that health was a thing in H1, but shields are your main hitpoint pool. I'll use the right word next time.

FPS on consoles let you carry all your weapons at once before Halo. Halo was just designed different and people were influenced by it.

Both half life and gaylo are shit at least gay life doesnt have regen

Pretty much, I had no problem with max payne when it came to the weapon selection.

Thanks Gaylo kid. If only your babby's first FPS improved vidya as much as I improve Holla Forums

To be fair Gay Life and Opposing force at least had creative weapons.
That's one of the things that really make shooters fun, insane guns or the ability to go do backflips to finish off your wall run and sniping 3 niggers straight in the head while doing it.

Good to see you stopped reading at that point and didn't read the rest of the argument. You from Holla Forums or /reddit/? because neither has a high literacy rate.

Not really, again your main pool is your health, the shields are basically a buffer that keeps your ass safe as you duck behind cover. Your health is what you need to watch, especially against needlers as mentioned due to the two point damage system their shards have.

Fun fact you can skip the entire second inside area in assault on the control room if you ride a shade turret to the bottom, making sure it hits the ledge below to reset the fall timer.

That sounds more like an action game than a shooter.

FPS have to be fast paced shooters that require insane accuracy and reflexes.
If you go Halo levels of slow you should just go full tacticool SWAT or ARMA.

If you go slow guns end up either too deadly or pea shooters, so you go realistic and keep guns being deadly as hell and make you fear for your life every second.
If you go Quake style you need to keep the pacing of the game fast and make everyone move fast so they can dodge the incoming hellfire.

Halo, CoD and the rest of console shooters fail because they just go slow since nobody can aim for shit due to hardware limitations, compensate that by giving everyone auto aim so they don't feel retarded not being able to hit the wide side of a barn, then make everyone Counter Strike levels of slow because aiming would be too hard if people could move faster than a turtle.

I don't know what kind of point you're trying to make. You can play like a dumbass, but obviously in a competitive game, you're going to lose against people who aren't. There's definitely different mutators and various casual modes in afps.

I know its a meme that veteran afps players never stopped playing, but people actually play seasonally or take breaks. It's not extremely trained aim from obsessive playing that's usually the cause of losses by a massive gap in points.

What I don't understand of the critisim of the game is anyone of the numerous detractors of the series on this finnish sky-shitting claypot is they never speak of the vehicular gameplay.

Shit was well done in all of Bungie's Gaylos, minus the RTS

Vehicle gameplay is honestly a gimmick which doesn't make up for the games flaws.
I have a huge boner for games that let me control a motherfucking aircraft carrier and actually fly planes or helicopters and kamikaze them against tanks.
Jeeps are fun and all but they can't compare to flying X wings which you could already do in Battlefront.

What about.
Flying the jeeps

Age of consent laws aren't universal, you fucking faggot.

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Plus CoD turns every gun into a sniper rifle.

i honestly don't know why anyone would like this game besides the good soundtrack. everything else about it is trash tbh

Ok so you're just throwing words around now.

In Counter Strike they fix that by making every gun artificially inaccurate as fuck unless you sit still for 2 seconds to 'steady the gun'.
In Halo and CoD they just gave people controllers.

CE and Reach were at least solid games. They weren't great, but they weren't bad either.

Halos warthogs have a tendency to do that

I've never once seen this auto-aim shit. I lined up and missed my own shots like anyone else.

They have some kind of aim assist, but I think it's common in console shooters.

This is just 3, 4 and 3 shit and I'm not surprised at all.

Halo and other console shooters have aim assist in the form of "friction and adhesion" where your reticle will stick to targets because fine, accurate aiming isn't possible with analogue sticks compared to mouse. This is in addition to the magic bullets, as explained in the webm

"consoles suck and can't play shooters lawl"
"HALO RUINED SHOOTERS FOREVER BAAAAAAAAAWWWW"

Correct.

It set a design precedent that every future shooter (even PC-only titles) would follow for the next decade to come.

There was Goldeneye on N64 before Halo.

I think he is talking about games that are good or even PLAYABLE since he used that word specifically, since goldeneye used the fucking n64 controller and was dogshit regardless…

I stopped reading your textual diarrhea after the first sentence because you posted a wrong fact. I went back and read your entire post, and you contradicted yourself.

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Coincidentally, have any of you gaylofags played that Halo SPV3? Pc remaster fan-made of Halo CE with modded in new weapons, guns, enemies and levels.

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But Half Life is terrible. Opposing Force was the only good thing to come out of it.

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Reported.

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Fuck off to reddit and stay there.
Your ilk isn't wanted here.

Take your meds schizo

Stay triggered gaylo kid.
Do humanity a favor and off your goon ass.

I can't believe cuckchan kiddies are still raiding us with troll threads like these after almost four years since we got here.

You first buddy

Goldeneye was a decent game that made up for the shortcomings of console FPS control with novel game ideas. Perfect Dark took its ideas to the next level to make a superb game. Then Halo came out and developers trashed the idea of innovating console FPS gameplay permanently.

Isn't it past your bedtime son?

I want Reddit to leave

Agreed. You know who play that shit? Gay niggaz.

Here's some past lulz for both gaylo and neofag

As somebody who actually likes the halo games as well as arena shooters, the first one is extremely overrated. What I don't understand is why in these threads nobody talks about the sequels when those are way better, 2 especially.

"Halo ruined FPS's" is a meme. Multiple Quake and Unreal Tournament games came out after the first and second Halo titles, Arena shooters only died and modern health regen cover modern warefare bullshit shooters took over after CoD4 came out in 2007. That's the game you fags should be blaming. Halo itself didn't even have regen health and had all of the traits of arena shooters (even starts, weapons and powerups on maps, platforming and verticality built into it's level design) up untill Halo Reach: in 2010.

Halo is pretty much just a slower UT (and even then H5 made it much less slow and floaty and advanced advanced movement mechanics, bringint it even closer to other arena shooters), not sure why fags like think it's closer to CoD when the two are nothing alike.

Virtually every console game in first person has aim assist since it's simply not possible to be even somewhat accurate without it using an analog stick unless you are like the 99.999% skill prenctile and play the games competitively. I don't get why it triggers Holla Forums so hard when even with aim assist staying accurate with an analog stick is harder then using a mouse, if anything Holla Forums should apperciate the extra difficulty.

Halo didn't have regen health, and there was outright health pickups in it. Also, you need to explain what's inherently bad about a weapon limit here. For many shooters it'd be pointless but due to how the Halo games handle weapon balance it's a benefit

It doesn't need to do anything new. A game that does all of the things a 9/10 game does with nothing new but does them slightly better, is still better then that 9/10 game despite being derititive.

Those aren't issues with the game itself. And once again, Halo didn't have regen health. Anyways, I agree that the first Halo game is overrated as fuck. But Halo 2 is a legimately fantastic game

This is all true, but these are all things the sequel fixed. The levels are far less tedious, even if it still had tedious ones, the enemies are actually narratively fleshed out and you see their perspectives and how their soceity operates, etc.

The first Halo game didn't invent anything, but Halo 2 was the first game to do a variety of modern networking stuff, including matchmaking hoppers.

Goldeneye is a janky mess that's aged like shit.

Why hasn't this thread been deleted yet? I reported it several times.

BIDEO GAYMES

That's the problem. Most people on this board are 14-15

Subhuman trash like you isn't welcome here.
Take a hike, kike.

It's over man, its down to shitflinging. I mean, not like it wasn't already very much present in the thread, but it's only shitposts now.

But Mark doesn't run the weekend gamenights user.

Nostalgia!

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I will never forget that moment when I took a first step into the amazing world of Fallout. It was so captivating, so mesmerizing, so bold. The story of my missing father caught my interest right away, and then when I saw the Megaton city I was hooked for good.

gaylo
>>>/normalfag/

Objectively wrong.

We got some mediocre arena shooters after Gaylo so therefore Gaylo dindu nuffin? Nice nonsense logic my man

Yeah it did. The shields functioned as recharging health and it singlehandedly started the entire regen craze. "B-but Master Queef technically has a small pool of non-recharging health…" is what Gaylo kids say when they're confronted with the fact that Gaylo is directly responsible for introducing regen cancer to the FPS genre.

Gaylo didn't do anything new or well. It took a bunch of ideas that had been done before and then combined into a mediocre package of dullness. Then that mediocre package became the new standard and radically lowered the bar for FPS in general thanks to children and dudebros, neither of which knew any better.

clever

Not even one of them is any good at all.

Holla Forums will defend any game that's over 11 years old.
Prove me wrong.

Except they aren't you can lose all your shields and still be fine. In fact damage to shields could bleed over into your health damaging you and unless you played on easy shields didn't last long.

Funny enough it was SONY that tried to beat Halo with Killzone. You can't really blame the gold medalist at the olympics for all the retards trying to copy it in their attempt to go for the gold.

Again these are based on your feelings. Stop being a leftist and try to actually give sources from developers where they made quake and UT similar to halo because they wanted the audience. Neither UT3 or Quake 3 were billed as "Halo killers"

Redditors and steam fags don't care because "it's not on steam"
I don't care because it's vaporware that will never see actual custom content like HCE got

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They couldn't innovate and ended up killing themselves. Arena shooter autists are too dumb to see this when they cry about their dead genre

Lol casual couldn't even figure out the central mechanic

And it was still better than pc shooters lmao

This is advanced shitposting when fucking Holla Forums defends Halo now.

I shudder to think 10 years later, we might even defend Skyrim.

Pretty much this, if it's too much of the same thing they bitch. If it's too innovative, they bitch.

I think what makes me shudder is your cringeworthy grammar.

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Current Holla Forums

You're painting broad strokes. But here are some of mine.

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That's a really bad strawman considering it was more pointed at mechanics.

Also CE's original MP was vastly different, listen to this interview. Originally it was described as a "battlefield clone" for MP. But that got cut, the guy was handed the reigns of MP and told "get MP working or we will be shipping Halo without it"

In any case listen to this interview

This is a strawman.

My post was a few anecdotes on my interaction with people who haven't played much arena shooters, or played very briefly. And the point was on the broad strokes. (I started playing afps about 1 year ago and it's very different from Quake 3; and as I learned about the genre, I just noticed a lot of things just get conflated with Quake 3 and a myriad of misconceptions.)

The video particularly doesn't concern me since I haven't played Halo nor have an opinion from neutral. I only opened this thread with the intention of lurking, but arena shooters got dragged in to responding by some other post.

But it didn't.

It didn't, CoD4 did, there were tons of games between 2001 and 2007 that didn't have regen health. Also, even if it did (and it didn't), that's not an issue with the game itself, that's an issue with the games that "copied" it, and even then they didn't really copy it because Halo didn't have regen health.

You get hit, hide for a while so your shield comes back, then keep playing. It is identical to regen health, and even if it wasn't (which it is) it's still a shit game mechanic for the exact same reason regen health is.

its not. The game has a system to encourage you to rush depending on which weapons the enemy is, the type of enemy it is, the emotional state of the enemy. Certain weapons do more damage to shields and less to health, and vice versa. That's why it's not the same. You don't understand the mechanic, and you probably never played the game.

Sure thing Gaylo kid

The health in halo 1 is there as a buffer for the "oh shit I fucked up" moments, if your health gets hit you screwed up somewhere.

Sure showed him

the shield encourages risky behavior and its important to the dynamic of combat in halo. halo's combat has more going on in it than most shooters.

Can't wait for 2026.

cant wait to make a halo thread and still see you mad about it

what happens in 2026, user?