CRPG Thread

It's been a while since I've seen one of these, so now is the time. Talk about what CRPG's you've been playing, which ones you want to play, and other related discussion.
I've been playing Might and Magic 3 lately, it's mostly more of the same from World of Xeen, but without some quality of life features that make the gameplay a bit smoother.
Are there anons on Holla Forums that want to get into CRPGs but don't know where to start? I know the genre is fairly unappealing to most, and I understand why, but I'm not sure if there are people who want to get into them and are just overwhelmed. If there are people in that situation, post below in the thread and me and others would be glad to point you in the right direction.

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"Classic" RPG???

No it stands for "Chernobyl RPG" you dummy.

Joking aside, it used to mean "Computer RPG"

Computer
Basically as close to the dnd tabletop experience on a computer.

Anons keep raving about Divinity OS2, is good?

See, my problem with that game is there are no moe lolis. Who wants to play that shit?

One of the best RPGs released in a decade. Easily better than the Infinity Engine shitshows or whatever engine obisidian is using right now

Is grimoire good? Should i magnet it or support McDonalds Delay Aussie?


fixed

Really buggy.
Just pirate it if you want to play it and buy it if you like it.

I have played it for 30 hours the past week and my opinions are mixed. The actual NPC dialogue part is shit and characters often don't react or react the same way with another option with special options.
The dialogue itself isn't particularly liberal with options and you are often put into one path, and is also somewhat cringy at times.
Characters are assholes. There's the edgy prince who only cares about power, Coldsteel the Assassin Elf, there's a witch that died and I didn't care about, there's the very snob skeleton that still is generally the best character, a Dorf rebel who I chose and an Arab who is somewhat generic but okay.

Gameplay ranges from fine to shit. The elemental effects like oil and fire get insane at times and basically the entire battlefield will be covered with Cursed Necrodeathfog Fire that deals 80 damage each step or turn. There's also an insane amount of number bloat and scaling, somewhat strong enemies will always have 200 more armor than you and that really gets on my nerves. The enemies in combat often also pull 200 consumables from their ass but if you kill them they have a sheet of paper and panties, really ticks me off.

The world itself is strange. It's not really something to be immersed in, it's a beach you run through to kick down NPC sandcastles. Case and point, a extraordinarily fucking stupid place in the second act where a demon skeleton scarecrow on a field asks you to rest and if you do you die, the thing is that this is right next to a major city, a paladin camp and right next to where a dorf lady lives. What the fuck?

tl;dr
6-8/10 depending on what you are looking for in your RPG.

People have made mods for HoMM3 that replace all the art with art from MLP, so I'm sure some fan made moe blob portraits exist for this game somewhere online.


Pirate it. The pirated version is actually less buggy than the Steam version.

Also it is extremely buggy and performance is ass. Really hates alt tabbing too so run it in borderless.
Loading times are shitslow and the game hogs over 4gb of RAM regularly.

I don't remember that game.

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Delete this.

You hurting me on purpose?

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Wizardry (all of them)
Might and magic (up to 8)
Grimoire was actually good
Anvil of dawn
Lands of lore 1 and 2

Source?

I wasn't asking for a recommendation thread specifically, and you listed only the most well-known games. Where are the gold box games, as well as the krynn and dark sun games? What about Geneforge and Exile? No Divinity, ToEE, or Arx Fatalis?

You mention that user only posts popular games but yet you forget one of the best crpgs of all time.

Here's the hint. If you sick at crossword puzzles your fucked.

Only CRPG I've played that directly involves a crossword puzzle is World of Xeen, so I'm curious to know what you're referring to

I keep forgetting about arx fatalis, ultima underworld, and system shock. Oh well, its good for people who want to get into CRPGs.

Never forget Daggerfall.
VENGAAAAANCE!
HALT!

I never liked daggerfall. None of the elder scrolls are any good tbh.

All of TES can be safely forgotten.

You need to play it as a battlemage to really enjoy it. Rogues types kinda suck. Also Daggerfall really is a dungeon crawler, the open world is more about just getting quests for those dungeons.
I know it's a verboten opinion to hold but Oblivion is my favorite TES game, most memorable world and best quests.
Best action RPGs coming out soon that you can expect would be ELEX if you liked Gothic and Kingdom Come: Deliverance.

I'll check it out. I like gothic alot.

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Reddit.

Understand that it won't be up to snuff with some other action RPGs, it is a pretty low budget small studio game, but it will be unique like all other PB games. It is massive though, 1.5x the size of Gothic 3.


It's not about that, it's about what is actually inside the world and I enjoy medieval grasslands and mountainous areas, it makes me feel at peace, very Zen.

Fucking nice. I hope there isnt a level cap. Is there a release date?

What is inside this world that makes it so memorable then? Is it the copy pasted dungeons? Is it the fifteenth oblivion gate you get to grind? Is it the nonsensical conversations about mudcrabs the NPCs have with eachother?

Knight of the Nine and Shivering isles were both the most memorable dlcs in all bethesda games. Also there's something really alluring about close to reality medieval settings with proper attire, interiors and chapels.

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October 17 this year. Only a few weeks.
I don't know about level cap, but there is a level cap in the sense that you will run out of shit to kill because there are no respawning enemies.
Visit worldofelex.de for info and news, English language option is at the top of the site.
I suggest you watch this series of videos, it's very interesting and detailed.

Quests, characters, locations and the world building where almost all tiny places have some story to them.

Meant for

It looks completely generic though, and I hate games that try to put fantasy and science fiction in the same setting, this one seems to be adding post-apocalypse on top too.

Can't say I agree or even understand your reasoning behind basically any of those points, except maybe quests. But even then, the only ones I actually enjoyed were the dark brotherhood, thieves guild and mage's guild before it turns into a necromancer hunt that has the worst and most anti climactic mannimarco fight in the entire series.

Arcanum is the best rpg, prove me wrong.

The only waifu you're given is a used goods elf whore. Western developers should stop making RPGs altogether.

Good, Waifus are for degenerates.

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Your mom is a degenerate.


FO5 will be just like that, except for the isometric perspective, pleasing UI and good art direction. Can't wait until it comes out so I can marvel at Bethesda for somehow making a more shallow and shitty game than FO4. They'll likely try to meme some goodwill, if there is any left to give after the CC, by announcing the protagonist is not voice anymore.

This tbqh famicom.

10/10 perfectly encapsulates bethesda's hijacking and corruption of the franchise

There are many things that need to be erased.

At least we have the likes of Fallout 1.5, Fallout of Nevada, Frontier and New California to deliver quality Fallout content.

Did Fallout Nevada get translated yet? Last I heard they were nearing completion.

That's fine

It's been mostly translated, and it got released, but then they took the patch down because it had the FO2 .exe and they wanted to avoid trouble, so now they're editing it, squashing bugs and translating anything they missed.

Back in the day, a lot of praise was given to BG2. I played it right after Dragon Age, which I thought was pretty mediocre.
BG2 was okay, there was finally a feel of adventuring, but the C&C was very lacking.
Imagine how much fun I had when I finally played Arcanum.
From character creation and even just at the very first town, there are so many ways to play and complete quests.
Too bad it didn't get the praise it deserved.

Thing would have been quite different if Tim Cain had found himself some Jew to manage his finances. Troika would actually have been able to make more than three buggy, broken unfinished games.

It's Unity, complete dogshit especially for the load times for obisidian's attempts to cash in on BG nostalgia


I've never understood the hype behind this game. I've tried multiple times to play it through, but it's just a slog.

BG2 is shit, it was pretty much oblibion of its time. Epic fantasy story for epic teenagers about epic stuff with epic loot and shit.

Can someone sell me on Geneforge?
I played a bit of Avernum and enjoyed that a lot, is it pretty similar?

if somebody needs to "sell" you on it in order for you to try it then you'rebeyond hope and probably better off going back to Skyrim

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Dark Heart of Uukrul

Computer RPG. As opposed to tabletop RPG.

Best RPGs that let you make a full party right off the bat that aren't dungeon crawlers? I have nothing against them, just that they're obvious picks.

Icewind Dale and ToEE spring to mind.

Well that's kinda the point. Everyone is in the post apocalypse and different factions adapted differently. The Berserkers went to live close to nature and use blades and magic, the Outlaws decided to say fuck it and just do drugs and live off of scraps from the old age, the Clerics decided to go high tech with pew pew guns and armor. Everyone adapted differently to the post apocalypse.

ah, I've not heard too much about that one, care to give me a rundown on it?

Tim "Six Million More" Cain would never associate with Jews.

The problem with Icewind Dale is that making your party is more interesting than the actual game. Forgotten Realms is a shit D&D setting with not a whole lot of interesting things going on.

Oh so you just mean RPGs.


This is Holla Forums, just say RPG. Everyone knows what you mean here.

Been playing a bit of Tales of the Abyss lately myself. I think Symphonia was a lot better.

Check out the Exile series.

Good lord.

You'll probably enjoy Geneforge then too. I never could forgive Jeff for dumbing all the Exile mechanics down in the Avernum remakes, and I've never really been fond of the isometric perspective.

What? Of course they are. A Japanese RPG made for a computer is merely a subset of computer RPGs.

Fuck off, cRPG doesn't refer to any RPG that can be played on a computer, and Tales certainly doesn't count

Don't argue semantics for the purpose of being a shitter. You know what the people in this thread are talking about.

Evidently there is some disagreement here. See

the C does stand for computer, but that doesn't mean the phrase encompasses all RPGs that are on a computer.

I really don't actually. There seems to be some significant difficulty in here for people articulating their thoughts. Are you trying to denote a sub-genre of RPGs? Using an adjective that literally applies to all video game RPGs in existence is a rather uninformative, autistic way of going about it.

But… That's retarded.

I actually liked 3 better than 4/5. The game felt better organized whereas the stitching between the two games in Xeen felt weird, and high level combat got kinda boring/unbalanced.

Whelp, time to get back to AGDG.

At the time the term cRPG came into existence, it did encompass all RPG video games because all of them that existed were very close to tabletop RPGs. Since then, other styles of RPG have been made that are different enough to not really be the same genre, so they aren't called cRPGs.
If you want to understand it better, all I can say is lurk more and see how people use it.

I really have difficulty interpreting a post like this. On the one hand, I absolutely loath trash like the original Fallout games and Baldur's Gate, and I hear bashing for the engine one of those games used and it sounds like this might be a modern RPG I'd actually be interested in. But then I look at the screenshots for Divinity OS2 and it just seems like the same garbage as everything else from that era. I need to know a critical detail: does it use a shitty fucking click-to-move interface?

I'll agree that cRPG isn't the best term, but it's the one that exists. As far as I understand, and I may be wrong, it tends to refer to (usually older) RPGs that are designed specifically to be played on a computer, and though some were ported to console, that often came with many caveats and simplifications.

I guess you could say that the term cRPG as people commonly use it, refers to older-style western RPGs, as Pool of Radiance, Eye of the Beholder, and Baldur's Gate all fit under the term, yet aren't the same genre at all. Using the broader label of Western RPG would bring in people talking about Dragon Age, Mass Effect, and the like, when threads about those are fairly common. The exact definition of cRPG is a bit hard to narrow down, but I've never seen anyone else have so much trouble understanding what it means and why Tales wouldn't count, especially when there's a JRPG thread up right now, which leads me to believe you're being an intentional faggot

Nonsense, this is a nu-retro meme picked up only the last few years by autistic retards trying to feel like special snowflakes. I grew up with PC RPGs in the early '90s and nobody used this term at that time.

I've been playing Arcanum and I haven't gotten to that point, someone tell me what's the deal with this supposed Island.

It's better for you to find out for yourself.
Interracial rape camp/breeding grounds.

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Don't trust the Gnomes

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Thought about playing Bard's Tale, but I'm still busy with EO.
Favorite CRPG is Might and Magic 6.

lmoa stop being wrong all the time

I might have to bump Arcanum up on my backlog.

Do it, it's a good game

Only thing I don't like is how clunky it feels, I understand Troika had to go through a lot of hoops to get it done, but still.

Are their beards joined?

fixed
:^)

What if dwarves were actually sentient beards that grow bodies to help them do stuff, and occasionaly a mutant grows two bodies instead of one?

Fallout, Planescape Torment and Baldur's Gate are all shitty meme games. Play through the SSI games.

Super Space Invaders?

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Be sure to load it down with patches and maybe a few minor mods before you play it. terra-arcanum.com/downloads/

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what about Icewind?

Fallout and all of the Infinity Engine games are all fine, some better than others obviously, but to say they're shit is untrue. However, they are criminally overexposed and anyone who likes them really should try out the SSI games and some other genre staples.

Should have set them in the Remembered Realms.

Wasn't there also an HoMM3 porn mod made?

I've been wanting to get into CRPG's is there anything you'd recommend as a good jumping off point? Thanks in advance!

I have Arcanum on steam, will it launch from the get go? Or like Vampire:TM does it require some off site support to run properly?

Albion
Betrayal at Krondor
Lands of Lore
Might and Magic III

If you're looking for an easier game to dip your toes into the first person dungeon crawler genre, I'd recommend Legend of Grimrock. It's a pretty good game, but it's simple and not antiquated and not too long, so it can be a good starting point if you're a bit hesitant.

Might and magic 4 is also a fairly easy game to pick up, provided you get through the god awful start. Why they dont let you create characters before they put you in the game i dont know, but it extends the game like an extra 20 minutes doing an inventory shuffle.

Or you could be a complete retard like me and not realize the starting party came with some gear and run into the game with nothing at all. Seriously, my biggest gripe with 3-5 (and quite a few other CRPGs) is that inventory management is just a pain sometimes

Inventory isnt too bad after the start. The 9 item per type per character is a bit limiting considering gear takes up those slots too.

I just think it can be a bit of a pain to move around, but certainly not as bad as some other games. I really dislike how getting knocked unconscious breaks armor, to the point where I just don't give my characters armor until the end of the game when they become tanks.

The armor breaking thing didnt bother me too much, since i went to the armor shop regularly anyway. Moving around items is fairly fast too, since its just the number key and F key. MM is impossible to play with mouse.

I used a mix of mouse and keyboard, but it would definitely be faster if I learned to go keyboard-only

I tried to play Arcanum 3 times and dropped it when I got to the mines, I don't remember what it was but I couldn't get past it, the thing wouldn't die. And I'm generally shit at allocating stats, I want to be master of all, but realize it's undoable. Next time I want to dump stats into speech, I feel I'll experience the game much better with better speech stats.

Get a real nice mechanical keyboard and get comfy. They are really relaxing games for some reason. Except for wizardry, that one is really stressful.

Amusingly enough, wizardry 6 in the only CRPG I've managed to play keyboard-only, though that may be because I could do it one-handed with only the arrow keys and enter. My mechanical keyboard was one of my best investments as well

I play wizardry 6 with a controller. I feel like im gonna break my enter key pressing it so much. Wizardry 7 is played with keyboard though.

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You still want some of the unofficial patches and Drog's stuff, otherwise you'll run into lots of bugs and other problems

Install game
Install UAP091225.exe (Unofficial Arcanum Patch)
Install ExtraAnimationsUAP.exe (Extra Animations)
Install HQ-Townmaps.exe (HQ Townmaps)

FOR WHEN ARCANUM LAGS
On shortcut add " -no3d -doublebuffer"
Copy DLL files (ddraw.dll, libwine.dll, wined3d.dll) to install folder

up to you if you want the high resolution patch. i don't want it.

A million years in mspain

It's OK, exploration is really comfy and it's flexible on how you can tackle challenges. If there was more competition maybe I would complain, but I certainly enjoyed it much more than Tyranny.

I did that once on a joke playthroguh, felt pretty good.

To be honest I tried playing several RPG's but I would always run into one simple problem. I always felt too impatient to play them until the point that shit gets really good. Like for example Baldur's Gate which just plainly bored me to death before I even got the chance to get to the titular city.

It felt as if every CRPG is a game with quite lackluster combat watching two guys stand next to each other and miss all the fucking time wasn't really fun, and this is the feeling I got from games like Baldur's Gate, Arcanum, Planetscape Torment and so on, random deathtraps that constantly slow you down, and an incredibly boring beginning that consists of you doing practically nothing for the few beginning hours of your playthrough.

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That sort of thing stops after the early parts of the game once your characters have levelled up a bit and can actually hit things.
You've gotta search for traps, user.
But hey, this kind of game isn't for everyone. They take a certain amount of patience and a willingness to overlook the clunkiness of ancient vidya.

Keep posting

Been playing Arcanum non-stop.
On my third play through. Doing a technological dwarf playthough this time and it's hard as balls but requires way more strategy than a magick playthrough.

Legit Spoiler: Gnomes are literally Jews.
They assassinated the Tarantian king and established an oligarchy under the guise od a democracy.
They try to take over commerce and industry wherever they go. They've effectively taken over half the human Kingdoms already before the player intercedes.
They experiment on all other races and are trying to create slave hybrid races of humans/ogres and orcs/elves.
They've even disposed of the Tarantian Queen by breeding her with Ogres, of which birth is almost always lethal to the "host". They've done this to other countless human women.
All middle to upper class gnomes have half-ogre slaves.
Gnomes constantly advocate for Half-Ogres and Orcs to be integrated into human society and to be treated as equals. One Gnome is literally backing a half-orc into leading a revolution in Tarant.
This isn't even the main quest.

Checkmate weeaboo

Seriously though, if you just don't make an absolute shit character you wouldn't have any of these problems.

Don't make jokes about that…

I pomyśleć, że to zrzut ekranu z polskiej wersji. Wstyd mi na samą myśl.

But the start of the game before diving into the temple is terminally boring. I can't force myself to replay it just because of that.

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How to make a good character then?

I've only played Pool of Radiance and Curse as of yet, I'm planning to get to the other 2 and the Krynn games at some point, but holy shit was Curse of the Azure Bonds mediocre. It didn't have any compelling sense of exploration like the first game and a lot of the encounters were frustrating and kind of gimmicky

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I always liked the complete and utter lack of seriousness with Might and Magic

Here's some modern day spins on the cRPG genre. Check out Heroes of a Broken Land and StarCrawlers on Steam. Thank me later.

Obviously "Chinese RPG"

I've installed this like 4 times downloading it from different places trying to install different patches and I always find game ending bugs.

Holla Forumsolk is a white board. fuck off shitskin.

So, does "CRPG" just mean "any RPG as long as it's isometric"?

A vast majority are first person and tile based, most aren't isometric at all.

So does it mean "turn-based and not Japanese"?

Baldur's Gate 1, 2 and ToB all have good combat, good writing, challenge and lots of content. They also can be modded. For those who shit on these games, what the hell do you want? Dragon Age 3? Fallout 4?

Dragon Age lacks the challenge, good combat, and writing (not that the writing of the Baldur's Gate games was anything to write home about), as well as the actual interesting areas.

You fucking faggot.
>>>/gaschamber/

This is more disgusting than 3DPD

I'm sure your reaction would've been completely different, if it were anime or monster girls instead.

Well hello there my blyatnik friend.
No shit it doesn't offend you since you jack off to ponies, just like a faggot you are. Take your proxy and your ass back to your ruskie 2ch cesspool.

Objectively wrong, consider killing yourself.

What's up with you people getting triggered at stuff like that?

Sorry for the late response but is the sequel to legend of grimrock any good? Also thanks.

I've not actually played it myself, but from what I've heard it improves some areas and is worse in some, but is overall decent/alright

I'm of the opinion that it's worse than the first game. I think the overwolrd areas don't really add much besides more walking, they're pretty empty compared to the dungeons. The puzzles are not as hard as they were in the first, and they're also less densely packed throughout the areas. They also intended to give the player more freedom in the skill system by giving every character access to every skill, but they made it so that skills max out at five points and only one or two of those points will do something other than make a number go up. It somehow feels more restrictive than before.
Oh, and they removed the unarmed skill and nerfed evasion, so you can't make a monk type character any more.

All that said, it's still a pretty good game overall. I like the new races and classes, especially the farmer, and the game just has a lot more variety than the first game. locations, enemies, items, the game just has more of everything. It's certainly worth a playthrough or two.

It's fun. The biggest flaw of the game is the scaling and how it affects other systems.


The world, story, and characters are forgettable. Music is good. Combat is overall fun in the first half where you'll be challenged. Once you're established and can start keeping up on gear, all of the challenge vanishes. Crowd control system is controversial, but despite its flaws, I think it's the best thing since the D&D system.


With that out of the way: been meaning to replay Baldur's Gate 2, but I've read that SCS hasn't been updated in ages and that you need to use the Big World install to get things up and running. I tried using Big World a long ass fucking time ago and the experience was awful since it didn't let me customize individual mods and instead just installed every module without my input. Is this still the case?

Here is a long story about ponyfags Goon's from halfchan and why ponyfaggotry is punished on fullchan in a same way as Rosen Maiden autists on russian imageboards implying they still exist

Are you talking about Big Picture? I used it to install Ascension in EE last year (no I'm not shilling for EE) and you were able to choose which mods installed to a reasonable extent, but it was a pain to find the right download for it.

Are you talking about Big Picture? I used it to install Ascension in EE last year (no I'm not shilling for EE) and you were able to choose which mods installed to a reasonable extent, but it was a pain to find the right download for it.

fuck, Holla Forums sperged out hard and now it's not letting me delete the double post

Ya either Big Picture or Big World, can't remember. Was a humongous install that took up most of my day. In any case, I'm forced to use EE because original IE games run like shit on my laptop; IE engine disagrees with integrated graphics card. Don't want to touch BG2 without SCS installed either, game's way too laughable easy without it.

huh, when I installed Big Picture (on a shit computer), it took about 20 minutes, I don't know why it would have taken you all day

can someone upload their latest version of grimoire and tell me what combination of class/race I should go for to not get fucked