So like this french shit is video games right? So I'm not gonna ask about 10 minute long birthing scene in children's cartoon, or about it going full DBZ, or about blatant /ss/ bait, or even about evangelion-tier ending.
I'd rather ask should I play Dofus or Wakfu, what are the difference between the two, which one is more casual friendly, and when exactly those games take place if cartoon ends with fucking apocalypse and heroes becoming gods. Or some shit. Also which is your favorite class/race? Can you play boufball in actual games? I'd really rather discuss the show, but I don't visit /a/ or Holla Forums or whatever the fuck this belongs to.
Dofus has gone to shit, don't even bother. It's long past its prime.
I had a level 184 Feca and a 122 Iop, stopped playing because multi-accounting and leeching ruined the game.
Kayden Cruz
Wakfu makes my pee pee hard the games are fucking trash and they need to make a singleplayer RPG with some romance options
Hunter James
Incoming Marche in 3, 2, 1
Charles Ramirez
Also they completely destroyed the classes with retarded updates, making everyone a "jack of all trades" and getting rid of what made classes unique in the first place.
Enutrof was a treasure hunter, but they got rid of the loot bonus. Ecaflip was a gambler, but they got rid of the majority of RNG spells.
Robert Morris
Can you do crazy shit like summoning chained sword outta your hand and HNK fist combos like in the show?
Robert Hughes
>talking about anything that isn't (((Marvel/DC))) or (((Disney))) crap. Good joke.
Ahkshually.
Aaron Lewis
Contrary to pewter belief, it is.
Jaxon Diaz
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Kayden Smith
Both games are as trash as season 3 of Wakfu. I don't know why ankama doesn't do a proper full length single player RPG with all the assets they've accumulated.
David Myers
Dofus was sick during its time.
Ive played dofus since the closed french-only alpha. It was a fun game and I enjoyed it a lot
Wakfu I played since Either an alpha/beta where it was very poorly translated to english. Wakfu was cool because it was new, and it improved upon a few things dofus was lacking in. And new features like arenas appearing where you were, instead of a static combat map for whichever map you were on.
Unfortunately wakfu got rid of many features that made dofus great. A wide variety of simple to understand characters made the game feel like a chess match in a mmo sense. And they made each class have multiple trees, for example. Making it more complex and less about strategy to where a computer would have a hard time mathematically choosing the best option.
TL;DR
Dofus is old, past its prime Wakfu couldnt do what dofus did
Isaiah Campbell
Dofus is pretty good, it's primary problem is multiboxing shitting up the playerbase. They're intending to open a server where it's not permitted next month so you could try it then. Even if you lose interest after a while it should be pretty fun for a while as it's going to be mobbed for the first few weeks.
Kayden Nelson
don't play the games, theyre garbage
Christian Ortiz
Here was a torrent for full season 3 with english subtitles?
Anthony Russell
I have to agree about multi accounting but: At that point multi accounting is irrelevant, you can make friends and do dungeons, quests or pvp, you know… have fun. I don't know about the landscape in the server you play tho, maybe it's harder there. When it gets simply unbearable is at 200 when some quests need easily 6+ level 200 to complete and you can't find anyone worth a damn because those who do are multi-accounts, and this is even having some level 200 friends in the game.
nowthisispodracing.png, too lazy to start a new character tho, but it should be fun.
Nolan Gomez
Bump
Alexander Gonzalez
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Logan Torres
Bump.
Anthony Morris
I got fucking tricked into watching wakfu into thinking it has good action, it doesn't it's awful. it only has good characters and that's it, I will never trust the french ever again.
Cameron Bailey
It's dragon ball/DBZ of france. It starts as kids' adventure cartoon with some action and ends up as autistic power level race consisting solely of action. At least it isn't 500+ episodes.
Ethan Gutierrez
Bump
Leo Johnson
im not marche but i got this from him
Joseph Kelly
also play dofus. its the better game.
Liam Torres
I remember him having a crush on her, but I don't remember them ever actually kissing. When was this scene?
Carson Lewis
Marche more like Nox costume hoarding kike.
Jeremiah Myers
S3 mate. It just ended, even Holla Forums had threads about it.
Brayden Butler
Just post the porn and get it over with
Kevin Perez
I actually wasn't aware it was out already. It's not on Netflix yet, and I guess I just didn't notice the Holla Forums threads.
I really wish they'd made a wakfu tactics game rather than the mmo.
Alexander Green
No shirt, no pupils, no service.
Joshua Jenkins
Post hips
Brody Thompson
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Nathaniel Wright
How many hours do you need to put into it before it gets fun?
Eli Gray
wakfu takes a few hours dofus is fun asap
Jeremiah Perry
I played both for like 2 hours. Both were boring as fuck. Dofus has cooler designs, but feel overall cheap, almost amateurish. Wakfu looks more generic but has more polish to it and sexy girls.
Oliver Brown
Eva > Amalia
Jose Moore
Polish? Did we play the same wakfu?
Parker Sullivan
Kurrrrwaaa
David Sullivan
I mean it doesn't have poorly cut transparency pixels, or compression artifacts on backgrounds, or visibly detached parts of character sprites. So yeah it feels and looks more polished as far as production values go. Obviously I'm not talking about balance, or gameplay, or content, or bugs or what fucking ever, since you won't see much of those after 10 hours in mmo, let alone 2.
So if it's a glitchy buggy unbalanced mess, it hides it well initially, kinda like Warframe.
Christopher Rogers
its true that is from me, I got it done just today
Jace Rivera
fucking AYYY sub team so garbage bloody season 3 ended 2 weeks ago and they only subbbed 8 episodes so far
Justin Adams
There are quicksubs in pastebin.
Jace Gray
yea I know but whats the actual quality like I dont want no oogabooga shit
Connor Miller
They get point across, what else do you need? Karaoke?
Julian Diaz
The backgrounds losing quality on large screens or when you zoom in is because they are of a fixed size, they're too detailed to make use of a vector image format, and bringing them up to 4K resolution or something would result in a massive amount of space being taken up and data being used, and they'd still be blurry when you zoom in - to avoid that the resolution would have to be fucking yuge. The character animations are just janky though yeah. Seeing the farming animation always makes me cringe. Mechanically however, Dofus is superior to wakfu.
James Peterson
I found the core gameplay enjoyable so I had a decent time right off the bat. The game gets progressively less fun as it relies on forcing you to grind more and more as you get higher level.
Wakfu finally broke me and I stopped playing after grinding my way through the wabbit area where the only way to escape was to grind wabbits nonstop for about 10 levels.
Jayden Collins
post tits and hips.
Liam Robinson
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Camden Robinson
What I didn't understand about the OVA's is that the little midget in a blue hood was able to completely destroy that unstoppable robot in the first season. In the OVA's he wasn't that strong though. So what was his deal? Was it just a lucky shot?
Ian Carter
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Jace Clark
By that time he's several hundred years of age.
Luis Johnson
It's not like it's been that long since the fight against Razertime ( think was the name of the robot ) He could've destroyed that faggot cat in the other dimension if he wanted too. Also when I watched the OVA's I felt like there were alot of characters that I didn't recognize but I should've. I watched season 1 and 2 but did I miss something before the OVA's?
Eli Barnes
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Cameron Howard
By the time it does, they start throwing gimmicks at you that ruin the experience again.
Elijah Jones
You missed a lot Jorris has hit own series called Dofus legend of kerub Basically Jorris is like 10 in it and revolves around short stories told by krub ( one of ecaflips sons) its very light hearted but a few lore tidbits are spotted throughout anyway there is also a Dofus movie that explains Jorris
Also black cat guy in the 3 ovas is Ush Ush is another of ecaflips sons and comes off more a villain in the universe but mostly just chaotic and self centred
While Joris is strong, Ush is a demigod
Nathan Long
Also recommended watching the ogrest special, dofus tv series and the dofus movie
Isaiah Hall
Ok guy who hasnt watched dofus dont read this bit
In episode 8 anyone else see Simone in Ruels flashback? It makes no sense given she worked in Kerubs shop in 397 but ruel wasnt born till 770 and ogrests chaos started in 789
Jose Russell
Merely a cameo.
Liam Richardson
THATS NOT HOW CAMEOS WORK WHEN YOU HAVE A SET TIMELINE FAGGOT
Isaiah Ortiz
Wakfu was sorta fun, but every patch the devs make things worse. Add popups, revamp classes by nerfing them, locking crafting behind paywalls, etc.
Not to mention, as the game progresses, it becomes grindy as hell (both in terms of gear and xp) and bosses start using nofun mechanics, such as requiring collision damage (which they removed from most classes), having immunity for several turns with nothing you can do about it, or having instant KO attacks that effect 99% of the screen and you have no indication of the safe spots beforehand without watching a guide. Also have find finding a group if you don't 6-box.
Maybe she is a demigod or some shit too, but most likely the writers are just idiots and retconned it like they do with everything else.
Camden Miller
1 - robot was fucked by the party pretty hard beforehead. 2 - faggot cat is a demigod and is on par with Joris, if not stronger.
Ruel is a lying fuck and a demigod, he's probably hundreds of years old.
Jason Hughes
Is there any actual evidence of ruel being a demi god like we seen his grandma for instance and his family name is some what notorious like how the smisse is known among rogues
Lincoln Russell
In S3 his wife says Oropo plans to make Ruel a god, and Oropo says he will make demigods gods.
Julian Jenkins
GIB
Jackson King
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Angel Scott
seince they changed the dungons in dofus to scale to party size multi accounting and the like have become less of a problem
Jace Gray
Thats the same artist that did the headpatting one isn't it? Could I get a source on the guy? His art is cute
wakfu got thoroughly fucked by ankama. i think both games are mostly bots now anyway.
Jose Reed
Yeah, but that could just be because there are no Enutrof demigods. Or at least that's what I assumed watching it.
Jason Gonzalez
Hows Season 3 going audience wise? Do they have enough for Season 4 Will they reach that goal?
Jonathan Robinson
S3 is a shitshow. I dunno how frogs react to it though. Me I don't want them to continue fucking it up any further.
In S1 Grugal says Ruel is the strongest of the bunch, but it's easy to dismiss as him being the oldest and therefore having the highest level.
Nathaniel Nelson
Cleophee > Eva > Amalia
Cooper Carter
I thought S3 was okay for a change of pace, but I wouldn't want to see it continue in the current setup (which S4 is set up to do). Comparing it to D&D, it's like seasons 1 and 2 were generic fantasy chase-the-bad-guy romps and season 3 is a hardcore your-characters-will-die dungeon crawl that the DM wanted to do but the players didn't, so the DM undid some of the kills and rushed the finale so everyone could move on. And it's not like the writers were rushed, the whole thing was written that way from the start. I enjoyed it, but it's definitely a departure.
That analogy is more accurate than I intended, because you can tell the exact moment when it shifts, too - right at the end of episode 9, when Eva is hit with the bolt and DM fiat saves her and begins the finale. And the veneer was starting to weaken before that, with Grovy and Goultard all but being offed, only to come back several episodes later.
There's also the expanding power levels problem - we're working with literal god levels of character strength, so the characters become less and less relatable and more and more Dragon Ball Z bullshit as time goes on. Part of the reason I've always liked Goultard is that he's there to lend a ridiculously strong helping hand, but is used 95% of the time for comic relief with Grovy. I think it's time for a reset, to start using the kids more and Yugo/Grovy less.
Yeah, I assumed that was seniority more than anything. Remember when Ruel was the dude with a bag of tricks for any occasion and not just the comic relief? I need to rewatch season 1 and see if my memory is accurate on that front.
Julian Evans
Merely a mindless cameo.
Blake Wood
That's made in abyss No birth scene. Point at specific timestamp
Brandon Stewart
That pic's not a birthing scene.
Isaac Cruz
Best goddess
Blake Bell
I always just assumed thats because he is the biggest jew
Ian Morris
He's strong as fuck but to use his powers he has to use up his jewgold and he's late in his donations to Enutrof too so he's just gimping himself and too jewish to actually waste his money to actually put up a fight.
Isaac Morales
He's undoubtedly the strongest when he bothers to give a fuck, but being an old enutrof also means he's frail. Plus, Yugo and Grovy are the protagonists. They get the spotlight moments and they get to show off how strong they are, because kids don't root for the ugly old man.
Noah Butler
Shit p2w game though
William Powell
at the time he was the strongest I suppose since Yugo awaken his power and Groovy actually becoming full Iop it changed
Jace Cooper
Characters are kind of hot tbh
Marche is still a fucking faggot
Nolan Young
Guy in charge said on twitter they'll have a season 4 and a 5th later.
Honestly I just want more Dofus movies.
Brayden Reyes
They want to do a 4 and 5, but they also fucked up so hard with S3 in so many ways that they ended it without knowing what the resolution was supposed to imply nor did they know how they were going to continue the story from there.
Blake Torres
i can think of a few ideas for a season 4 but id rather just get a fresh story with new characters
preferably a sacrier since we still havent seen them fight
Adam Cook
I still kinda like wakfu
if only cause I find it really interesting. It's basically an open world tactics mmo.
Ecaflip best class.
Noah Howard
I mean the female ecaflip's clothes are held to her body by tiny little paws.
10/10
Jonathan Carter
That's delicious
Owen Reyes
I watched that fight in someone's webm a while ago and while decently animated it didn't really peak my interest. Recently, after S3 was complete, when I sat down and watched dofus/wakfu everything it made so much more sense to me, and was a great piece of fanservice. Kerubim's tales were always wishy washy, but after seeing him being old as fuck and still pulling Dante on Judith it dawns on you how most of his tales were true, and he actually was a badass if arrogant superhero journeying around saving cities and defeating great villains.
Gabriel Peterson
Even if it was graphically outdated, i still prefered it over the childish graphics of 2.0.
If they open a server without multiboxing allowed it might just renew my interest in the game.
Alexander Walker
Amazingly Sadlygrove never fucking dies
Cooper Johnson
Season ended on nothing. I though here was 25 episodes like in past season.
Elijah Baker
When I saw the final episode i thought that it was still going so is right about that ending
Cooper Martinez
He may have been the strongest in season 1, but by the end of season 2 he was definitely outclassed by at least Grovy and Goultard. Yugo, too, by the time season 3 happens. The problem with Ruel is that, until season 3, he didn't really have a character arc to speak of. He was miserly, he was rich as hell, he was the regular comic relief, and that was about it. I'm glad they're introducing his wife and giving him some conflict to address but it feels like too little too late; he's already an irrelevant member of the party (as Evangelyne and Amalia are quickly becoming). From a writing perspective, having a god-king and a literal god in the party and a guest demi-god means that everyone else is very quickly left in the dust, only good for, in Evangelyne's case, literally breeding new demi-gods to join the fight.
Kayden Bailey
And I don't mean irrelevant from just a battle perspective, I mean from a writing perspective they don't do much either. Evangelyne spent the entire time pregnant or in recovery, Amalia had some welcome interaction with Yugo, and Ruel did so little that he literally had to get replaced by an asshole chameleon to say something to her about her princess act and (maybe) set her straight. I get that it's a dungeon crawl, but I'm worried that the higher stakes scope of the show is going to result in less fun inter-party interaction and more shounen fightan' with little way to back down from it.
Caleb Moore
I'm hoping now that now that they're in Inglorium among actual gods they'll be outclassed enough to go back to the old team style.
Ayden Roberts
From the new season, a couple episodes before this scene.
Zachary Cruz
where are my /ss/ lewds?!
Jason Rodriguez
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Daniel Howard
that looks like a roach, tell me this guy isn't ruining Wakfu in any way
Gabriel Diaz
of course not, goy!
Joseph Carter
cucked by yourself new level of cucking
why is he still so tan he should of reverted to his white color.
Cooper Ortiz
Next you'll tell me South and Western Europeans countries aren't White.
Ryder Hill
does Yugo get over his weird hangup about looking like a kid and get with Amalia?
Parker Cox
Nope, there's so much going on in the last couple episodes they sort of forget about it.
Hudson Martin
Request picture with to gorilla looking guys and joke about "Neither of us is virgin"
William Foster
I still log into wakfu now and then, tend the fields, replant them and log out. Feels bad man. Never made it past level 25 and could never figure out what to even do at that point. Meh.
Anthony Flores
Making deals with demons turns you into a nigger. Note that he has become even more dark-skinned after his newest arrangement with Rubi
Jason Miller
they are releasing a server that wont allow multiboxing later this month
Ethan Harris
also ecaflip fucking sucks. Sacrier is the best and only a retard would disagree.
James Miller
That doesn't follow. Count Vampyro, who made a deal with the demon he was guarding, is white as a sheet.
James Ross
Well i mean Pinpin kinda merged with his ShuShu.
Adam Myers
Being possessed != making a deal. Aslo possessed form looks like demon's original form merged with person or animal host's form. Pinpin was possessed a bunch of times but never got black. It's his actual deal in the desert that made him brown in the first place, not even being tanned/burned. Because you know after you get burned red in the sun and then healed you're becoming white again, there is no tanned phase.