Get minced by giant ants, get tricked into eating a rotting corpse by elves, nuke random towns, get burned to ashes by fire giant, watch in horror as alien gets out from your stomach and begins ayy lmao invasion, get tricked into thinking that Kumiromi is a girl, and go insane from eating cranberries and kill yourself, yes all this fun can be YOURS!
This brings about some quality of life changes and general improvements to the game as well as letting you customize things like pet AI, highly recommended. Extract this to the elona main folder and launch from the coffee cup icon. Made by some qt named annabannana and more recently taking up the torch a guy named bloodyshade.
A jap roguelike with an overworld and no permadeath. Can be played a ton of different ways like being a farmer who grows magic items as well as veggies, a piano player, and there's some new necromancy shit that was added. There is a ton of shit to do in the game. It's a bit grind heavy though . Join in on the fun!
I recently found an evolution heart for my little girl and turned her into a valkyrie, the wiki says that they get cheer. I had her set up with some custom AI so I went to check for it and found nothing in there, but even trying the default AI she does nothing. does she need some certain level in a skill or stat?
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speaking of leveling living weapons, I want to add magic damage to it, and after looking at the wiki I'm guessing its going to be a certain month but no one knows for sure which months do which? I got it in February and its march now but the only elemental damage/resist its said so far is Nether(although the skills changed from months). Am I stuck with Nether damage for it? I wouldn't be super sad with that but don't a lot of high level enemies have nether resistance?
Daniel Phillips
Re-initializing actions on the custom AI screen should add the skill to your little girl. Don't know about the living weapon though, never found one myself.
Matthew Wood
EloSnack
Henry Phillips
1. On Main menu of custom ai, "Configure" then "Re-initialize actions" Cheer should show itself after that. 2. Look at elona+ 1.67. paragraph in elona.wikia.com/wiki/Living_Weapons
Fug, Doritos image was supposed to go first.
Gabriel Parker
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Jonathan Peterson
I missed that one.
Brayden Mitchell
that's why I was hoping you guys might know more about when exactly I could expect magic to show up. is it random now? or tied to something esoteric? is it just a straight loop?
Your limit before you are encumbered is the cargo limit marked on your character sheet. Twice that is when you cannot move.
Tyler Walker
Thanks. Turns out I upgraded it 6 times then.
Noah King
Reported
Parker Hernandez
Faggot.
Juan Clark
Is there a way to edit races? I went through elosnack briefly but it seemed like I could only edit individuals rather than a whole race.
Ethan Nelson
Also the cat minor goddess in Lost Irva will tell you your "unluckines"
Aaron Howard
Have you decorated your house?
Chase Hill
I think you're super cute, user. I want to pat your head and listen to you talk about your Elona adventures.
Benjamin Howard
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Isaiah Lewis
Female (male). Although the character sheet changes, the game will continue to refer to NPCs as their original gender (he/she), unlike when the PC uses forbidden meat. The only way to rectify this is to change the gender bit with Elosnack.
Blake Johnson
The nerf to shop made getting gold early on pretty tedious. Wouldn't be so bad if the chat had a modicum of activity, but it's pretty dead aside from one guy who hasn't figured out the piano in Vernis is a trap.
Joshua Morales
It's the same as before, except it's enhancement+month instead of just month. If the enchantment you want isn't available, get a blacksmith to enhance it and check again.
Logan Thompson
I'd forcefeed Kumiromi my forbidden meat, if you catch my drift.
Easton Garcia
r8 me Holla Forums
James Diaz
how that copy/shovelware on steam is going?
Landon Sullivan
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Mason Davis
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Kayden Sanders
Sometimes the skins don't make sense. Like Moyer using a Recette sprite with no one bothering to change his sex nor profile pic.
Connor Sanchez
I lose internet for one week and you homos cant remember to post the good stuff. Thats ok, I still love you,
Elijah Young
I was referring to your pc, and maybe some pets, not all character sprites.
Caleb Clark
What causes the levels of dungeons to increase or decrease? Is it based on fame or level or something?
Caleb Perry
The highest level dungeon you have cleared dictates the average level of dungeons when they're spawned, you'll still get outlier dungeons with really low or high levels though.
You can check it out (the highest lv dungeon you've cleaered) in your (j)ournal quite a few pages in.
Brandon Cox
It's based mainly off the deepest dungeon level cleared, which can be reset in Oblivion Palace.
Jacob Bell
Need to compile all the good guides in pastebin.
Luke Williams
Another question, what causes quests to increase in difficulty? I used to only get 5000-9000 gold hunting quests, now 12000-25000 gold hunting quests are appearing regularly, and I'm only level 44.
Nathaniel Walker
Preaching only gives you money, not any items, correct?
Does it being blessed or cursed do anything at all? I doubt the game is that punishing, but that certainly would be something.
Jordan Russell
Yeah, I used it and got a feat. Looked it up not long after I posted.
Adam Nguyen
Now my pet wyvern took a drink and got me a wish. This is my first one. Must be a high luck day or something.
Thomas Johnson
Can someone explain how exactly the multihit for martial arts works? I read in previous threads that wearing claws early on is good for hit chance, but it'll only allow to proc 4 multihits or something like that, while wearing nothing at all you can hit up to 8 times.
How do you proc multihits in the first place though? Does it happen as you level up the skill? Do I need to wear equipment with chance of extra melee attack bonuses or what? Does it make a difference if it's pets using MA?
Gavin Smith
This guy is going to get cucked into the stratosphere
Elijah Wood
Where am I supposed to find a portrait for a goblin that actually remotely resembles a goblin but doesn't crash catastrophically with the animu artstyle?
Jaxson Butler
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Oliver Torres
How long have you been waiting to post that?
Caleb Robinson
I don't have to wait, there's always one of you goblin fanciers about.
Josiah Ramirez
all of the info is actually in pastebins in OP, just read goddamn stuff. ofc, it'd be great to have whole knowledge 'in pill' in one pastebin, but all info that has been posted here (apart from using the shop, which is written in book you get on floor when you build your shop) is somewhere
Leo Rodriguez
How does it feel knowing your women cream themselves over the thought of getting goblin'd? Your worthless sluts lose their minds over big, fat, green goblin cock. lmao how can humies even compare.
Brandon Jones
it's exactly as you say, you need to have items that have 'it gives an extra melee attack' in item descrpitoon or something like that. There are some fixed artifacts and items that have this attribute. After that, it's mostly russian rulette if i'm correct (you might get one, you might not). If somebody has some other info, plz correct me
Jonathan Rodriguez
Based gobboslayer, keep us from harm and rape.
Jaxon Powell
I, too, want to remove goblins. The cute ones. With my dick.
Give me one decently shortstacked goblin qt and you can have all the human cattle you want. I'll even throw in some firecrackers. Deal?
Jason Turner
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Jonathan Martinez
I ended up giving my pet the Twin Edge with #####+ extra melee attacks. Extra attacks very rarely proc though so I thought maybe it's related to MA skill after all. Thanks for confirming, the wiki hasn't been helpful all in this regard.
Owen Phillips
IIRC they proc with everything, but MA for some reason hav biggest (?) chance of trigggering additional melee attack
Connor Price
Magic and ranged attacks too? I assumed that since it's called extra melee attacks it only applies to melee attacks. If it applies to magic too does it consume extra mana?
Juan Murphy
Ok humie, deal, but just this once. You have my sister Filgror the Fair, she most beautiful goblin in all of land. Count yourself lucky and make sure to have lots of babies. Not that I want your inferior humie genes polluting glorious goblin genepool or anything like that though.
Gabriel Scott
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Lucas Cooper
is there any way to scale up the ui? my monitor is set up somewhat farther than usual and reading small text is quite a challenge
Camden Robinson
fuk u mutherfukker bich humie i fuk ur mums pussy
Bentley Taylor
have you tried changing the resolution in the settings?
Noah Taylor
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Alexander Phillips
It's still buggy and unbalanced
Lincoln Parker
you will pay for this humie. i will find yuo and shit IN THE MOUTH. SICK BASTERD BITCH. fucking humies you will regret the day when goblins conqers world. superpower by 2020 we will have green dicks on moon. you will be slaves to us and i shit on youre wifes mouth
Camden James
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James Green
Why don't you write a song about it?
Jose Cook
Not within Elona itself AFAIK. Increasing the resolution doesn't change the scale, it just lets you see more of the world.
There might be some program you can download to scale individual windows, but the easiest solution is probably to put the game in fullscreen mode. or move the monitor closer
Bentley Jones
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Asher Moore
It feels like having my little girl cast cheer all the time makes them more or less useless in combat, since they just stand around casting it all the time, but then teaching them shadowstep is suffering since they waste a turn doing nothing. I hope at some point I'll be able to get them to rapidly buff the entire party and then go right in with shadowstep and the Rankis, but I'm not sure it's possible
Anthony Walker
This is a good chunk of why people made Custom.
Anthony Torres
Extra attacks are really, really complicated for some reason. You can find the basics here: elona.wikia.com/wiki/Equipment_attributes#Chance_of_extra_melee.2Franged_attack_in_Elona.2B There's a limit of 3 extra attacks per weapon ("You attack… Furthermore, you attack… Furthermore, you attack… Furthermore, you attack…"), but the "unarmed weapon" has a special case that lets it get up to 7 extra attacks. But if you equip a claw or shield, that's a "shield attack" rather than an "unarmed attack", so you're back down to 4 attacks instead of 8.
Jace Sanchez
I keep looking for tone files but I can't seem to find any. Guess I'll make my own, since the format is easy enough.
Cooper White
Interesting, thanks. I imagined having more hands would make it proc more often, especially with martial arts which isn't affected at all. That leads me to another question though; does having more hands as a martial artist affect the skill at all? If not wouldn't it be more beneficial to remove all hands and add different body parts? based on what the wiki says about MA, the damage is not affected due to the dice directly relating to the skill level itself but it doesn't mention anything else
Landon Perez
I fucking love chain reactions
Jace Anderson
I think the only things that can cause extra attacks are the "chance of extra melee attack" enchantments and some of the class feats. However, for dual wield, every hand has a chance for those extra attacks. Dual wield also gets a penalty to earning extra attacks on each successive hand, though.
Nicholas Lewis
Yes, if you want a kung-fu pet, don't bother giving them hands.
Andrew Russell
This is what I meant, just worded it very badly. English is my third language It's neat that martial arts isn't affected by the whole "more hands makes extra attacks harder to proc" but I'm surprised it doesn't give an outright bonus to it for having more hands or something similar.
She still has 3 equipment slots though, so body parts will be added once I get to South Tyris regardless. Shame you can't remove initial limbs.
Nicholas Jones
so will training dual wield with just 2 hands make my dmg go up or it doesn;t matter?
Nathaniel Moore
If you're not going to be a ball of hands, Dual Wield is probably inferior to Two Hand.
David Clark
Dragon quest, Final Fantasy, RPG maker suites and a bunch of other stuff just to name a few of the things I've found, and I've still not made it back to my massive Elona Folder and the custom sprite sheets everyone's already made.
Chase Flores
Man, I wish there was a faster way to improve pet relations past friend. I've got two pets I wanna evolve, but can't because they need to be at "fellow"
Adam Kelly
spam em with gifts
Daniel Wright
love potions don't do it anymore?
Austin Miller
Love potions don't affect them past friend, apparently. Thrown or mixed.
Forgot entirely about those.
Owen Richardson
Past friend is the easiest. That's the point where they begin to accept bouquets and friendship tokens, the latter of which I have more than I can spend. You make both of them with the Pot for Fusion.
Jackson Diaz
… I should probably work on gardening and those other crafting skills.
Carson Roberts
Jesus, how do you disable that cheer sound? It's so loud.
Kayden Gray
trying to do an escort quest and my followers are in town but still cant take the quest what do i do?
Adrian Campbell
In Town == In Party In Doujou != In Party
Zachary Gomez
So, how do you get better hit % ? Is it solely based on skill for the weapon? or quality of the weapon or something else entirely
Christopher Moore
Skill mostly, some things modify it like dual weild, riding, etc
Xavier Allen
Raise charisma or drop them off at dojo or just delete them/use for gene engineering.
Weapon skill, two handed or dual wield skill, weapon enchant, weapon being blessed or cursed, dexterity, other equipment providing hit rate bonus (like gloves and claws). Besides that crits always hit unless countered by greater evasion.
Nathan Jackson
Bouquets don't seem to do anything at friend, doesn't raise the impress/relation at all
Easton Martin
Fuck, should have read the wiki first I suppose. "It increases impress with added heart emoticon shown when given to targets that are at Fellow or above. Targets below Fellow will still accept the bouquet, but there will be no increase in impress."
Evan Murphy
Is there any downside to just having every godpet in your party, or that many pets to begin with?
Bentley Allen
Not really, but lots of godpets get outclassed by other pets, and you need high faith to be able to have lots of them at once. No downside to carrying around as many pets as your CHA allows you, though.
Also, I think I might've gone a bit overboard with panties this time
Jeremiah Wilson
It's time to update to 1.71 my friend. Pantsu addiction is bad for your health.
Logan Anderson
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Christian Wilson
Just gonna do it for one more nefia fever then move onto the stardust farm+living weapon crafting fest that is 1.71. Upgrade all my 20+ weapons to +10(+15 will be for later, fuck it) and now I've got decent acc up until weapon 16-17 it seems.
Gavin Sanders
Source?
Liam Stewart
Also I can't stress this enough GET THIS ITEM ASAP It makes it so every step you take on the world map while wearing it passes half a day, so
Dominic Martin
Its a single image except the one you see is cropped since going down all the way to her feet just for a smug image is useless. Stop being so thirsty.
Eli Martin
Is it a mod that adds the exact values after [#]?
Andrew Harris
OH FUCK, I JUST FIGURED OUT WHAT THESE ARE FOR They change according to the emotional state of your pet THE MODABILITY OF THIS GAME IS AMAZING! anyone got any 300x500 faces?
Grayson Bailey
Only two I've got right now.
William Foster
There's an option for it in Custom's tweaks menu.
Logan Nguyen
Too bad almost every NPC interaction isn't translated. Stuff like specific NPC dialogue just falls back to default shit. You can always create custom dialogues too, there's files for that.
I never liked the fact how elona's translation works. There's hundreds of thousands of flavor text for everything in the game, but no one will ever bother translating those, instead it falls back to "untranslated sentence" or "this item has no description", not to mention the npc fluff dialogue. I'd love to have all japanese text machine translated, even if it meant ditching the actual translations(that aren't that good in the first place). Shit wouldn't be precise but wouldn't be inexistent.
Christian Sanchez
Kind of. Custom makes it so the object of heart precious item you get from act 2 lets you see them
Nolan Cook
The people running Custom have said they don't want machine translations because they're low quality and because afterward they'd have trouble telling what was and wasn't machine translated. I've been considering suggesting machine translating all the untranslated stuff but putting "[MT]" at the start of each line. It'd be better than "Sorry, this is untranslated sentence", anyway.
Mason Brooks
Only a matter of autism for someone to create Elona+ Lewd Edition
Juan Wilson
I'd do it if I weren't so early to learning nip. I've only just finished katakana, nowhere near clearing Kanji yet. If everything's still the same a year from now I'll try my hand at it.
Similarly, I'm making a tone-file for the black angel. If any anons want to critique it when it's done, should be so tomorrow or later tonight. I want to do one for every god pet, and for both genders of each if possible. Though I guess I'll do female first for all of them because, you know, of course I would.
Gavin Rogers
I am death. If you want to know why the heavier ones are last, it's because I usually only hit with the last ones during time stop where you can't miss anyways
Luis Lee
Good luck user.
Lincoln Ramirez
I think there's just too much small stuff, man. A machine translator mass translating every japanese text files would suffice. Best outcome could be having the actual translated text from custom OVER any auto translated text if there is any, then all the text that is auto translated is displayed in a different font or something.
where's your twin edge bruh?
Asher Bennett
In what neck
Nolan Wright
is it possible to fuck your map up somehow? I haven't had a 'sudden dimporphism hits your continent' thing since i started. Every dung is cleared and fixed on lvl 1
Carson Nguyen
found my second living weapon, bought this one off of a merchant for 45k. the last one I got I also bought, but it was only ~4000 for some reason. I plan on putting lightning damage on it and giving it to one of my pets.
getting the right element seems like its going to take forever though. will it take me several in game years to get it to lvl 10 with the stuff I want?
Matthew Walker
Is it not worthing getting a neck to get a neck to get a better chance of doubleattacks of every weapon? Or are there way better ways of doing that?
Did you drink from a well and wish to be the strongest man in world?
Nolan Howard
nah, not even a single wish in game so far.
Eli Perry
Due to the way the formula works after the first attack: Extra attack will occur if random number(0 to 99) + (number of hands + 10) x number of extra attacks have already occurred < calculated attribute strength x 2 + 1 Calculated attribute strength = sum of extra melee/ranged attack equipment attribute strength across all equipment pieces / 15. The chance is extremely small anyways
Adam Cruz
can't you get doubleattack on other slots from randarts?
Jayden Johnson
how come scroll of return sometimes just doesn't work?
Cooper Johnson
how come scroll of return sometimes just doesn't work?
Hunter Reyes
Are you carrying too much cargo? Are you "Overweight!" in gear?
Blake Peterson
Text files done. Rate, hate, just give me something to improve upon or a "GOOD-JOB, MOBIUS ONE" kind of response so I can get on with one for each godpet, and then one for each of the more common pets.
Also I'll take requests for whatever since I have nothing else to do.
Dylan Adams
What are you able to do? Text? Sprites?
Isaac Sanders
Text. I'm only a writefag, not a drawfag. Fat lot of good it did for my education, but at least it helps with medical school.
Wyatt Stewart
Good shit user. Put this on elonaup so it's not lost please.
Michael Flores
Alright. I'm gonna do other talk files later and post them in the thread anyway. If you want a specific one just tell me and I'll do my write-niggatry some more.
Wyatt Ramirez
This is probably an odd request, but could you do something for Yerles machine infantry? They're so useful starting out that they're usually one of the first allies that I marry, so I'm fond of them. It doesn't have to be anything major. female of course
Josiah Reed
I was gonna get to that, odd for the subject matter though since I was going to do radio chatter and military jargon for that but I guess I'll do something more stylish than that. Stick around in the threads for a few days and I'll eventually get it to you, that and the other tone files.
Also, I'm retarded, and can't seem to put the txtfile on elonaup. Is it on the "kochi" part of the site I can put up text files, or is it on the place with all the BMPs? I mean, I figure it's the BMP place but I'm probably doing something wrong.
Lincoln Evans
Requesting a female fire dragon child tone file. They make great tanky martial arts pets early on and their evolutions help them keep relevant later in the game.
Blake Parker
Ah thanks, I had the option enabled but I'm not in act 2 yet.
I read about 1/3 of the way through and there's a few small things to mention. Also I'm not 100% sure which lines are left as is and which ones were changed.
Some of the lines are about bows and arrows specifically, which makes sense given the character but what if you end up equipping her with guns or crossbows? There seem to be a few lines that are out of place personality wise. For example some things she says are more playful or a little edgy Which I think fits right in with how I imagine her to behave but others are a bit too lovey dovey. For some reason the last one really stood out me because it seemed so out of place. Couldn't tell you why though. Lines like this are great though. The only other thing I can think of is the vocabulary of the character. For example: Again, seems slightly out of place for the Black Angel. The line is fine up until the final word but obviously that comes down to opinion.
Overall it's pretty good and I'll end up using this with a few tweaks. I'm not a writefag myself, but I have a close friend who asks me to criticize his work all the time, so I tend to be nit picky. Consider this post more opinion than actual criticism since I have no idea what in the fuck I am talking about. Good job Mobius 1
Brandon Perez
I did change some of the insult dialogue, just not all of it. I didn't want to lose the original feel, which is also why I kept all of the idle chatter from the original. Thanks for the nitpicking, I'll keep all of that in mind. Yeah, I felt a lot of it was out of place but there were other ideas that affected those things as well, considering it's as much of an impact to add as it is to take away. The proposition in my brain was essentially that they hid a lot of what they thought behind this puffed-up version of themselves that they hold in high regard, but then it crumbles occasionally. I'll probably dick around with it later, but it's an initial draft that I wanted to be critiqued. Feel free to grab it and re-up with your own modifications, if you'd like. It's an user's work, after all.
Anything specific about this RQ?
Adrian Bailey
Thanks, I'll look forward to it. And the radio chatter and stuff would be okay, female machine infantry give me a "serious tomboy" vibe anyway.
Ryan Lopez
It's nice having someone around that writes and shares tone files and takes requests to boot. Whenever you get back to touching up on the black angel do share it. I'm curious to see what you'll do with it.
Oliver Bailey
This game is fun.
Jeremiah Morales
nice nice
Noah Myers
Nope. Not knowing what to expect makes it more fun.
Jackson Parker
Anyone know what this item is? I can't use it or open it, but I think it might be some kind of monster ball since I can throw it. I can't seem to find anything on it on the wiki. If no one knows, I'll probably start experimenting and try chucking it at something strong to see what happens.
Parker Butler
I think that it's a monster ball that only works on the little sisters that spawn after you kill big daddies.
Colton Garcia
Shame there isn't some connectivity between game instances or I'd trade it to one of the loli collectors in the thread.
Oliver Robinson
Well, you need it for a quest in Cyber Dome.
Kayden Davis
That is exactly it, I think you have to get the initial quest first from the strange scientist lady in cyber dome before you can start catching little sisters. She also gives you more balls. elona.wikia.com/wiki/Little_sister_level_30
Benjamin Powell
You can get unlimited quantities of little balls from the quest giver, which you will need.
Elijah Young
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Christopher Gutierrez
Beat it for the first time. I shall enjoy my croquette.
Hunter Walker
Not the original tone file guy, but I'm bored this morning, so I picked up your request as well for shits and giggles.
slight adjustment could work for female android+god evolution too
Joshua Mitchell
Just woke up, this looks like you had a lot of fun with it. I think I'll have a go at your version if you don't mind, and put in a bunch more lines as well with buddy's original vision.
Samuel Butler
Go ahead. Like I said, I just did it for something to do!
Josiah Hernandez
Wow, I can't believe that my silly request is becoming a team effort.
I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out, but there's always room for improvement. If your text starts to get clogged up, remove some lines from the Idle Chatter section at the top of the file. That's usually what spams most of the chatter since it happens when you're not doing much. I might add more stuff later, but I think I did a good job and it's pretty filled out. You'll probably like the humor, too. Props to for the great idea for character development. If it's not in your style or if you've got any comments, feel free to shoot them to me, I'll start working on the defender I think, touch up the BA like I've been doing, and then see if I can figure out anything for that one fire dragon thing.
Isaiah Peterson
Awesome. Really appreciate it.
Jose Stewart
"…I modified my modified my gear…" "Ah, I'm bored. Why don't we go do dangerous and thrilling [dangerous and thrilling what?]!?"
Aside from those two, everything else looks great. I'll be using this even.
James Russell
Yeah see that's why I didn't put it on elonaup yet. Meant to be "Something dangerous and thrilling."
Fixed both issues, I usually just scan with spellcheck when proofing since I want to get it up for critique as soon as possible. That and it's a pain in the ass to see individual lines quickly in notepad++. Thanks for doing it for free. Helps out a bit.
Xavier Morgan
Is there a site or place for user modifications? It would be nice to create one and start to collect mods that enhance the game.
Anthony Peterson
People upload all sort of things to ElonaUploader elonaup.x0.com/sozai/ All of them are japanese tho so good luck figuring out what anything is other than sprites
Adrian Martin
wew
Matthew Hill
Sit it on a one way train to Derchau
Leo Lewis
A Jew doing the work of a goy? Oy vey.
Daniel Murphy
I'm passing out since I've got work tomorrow, but I'm going to post what I've done to see if anyone likes the direction I've taken. Also, criticisms, since I'm clearly too blind to notice my own faults at times. pastebin.com/cN89xXtQ Here's the initial part of the defender. The chat-box dialogue isn't finished yet, and neither is the rest of everything else, but I'm hoping the idea piques someone's interest. Expect a finished version either thursday night or friday night, since I'm also working on the BA and not-charizard for that one autist.
Once again, feel free to grab it and make your own shit if you care enough. The full template is in one of my other posts, with the annotations and what not.
Brayden Foster
I sent him right to the gene chamber. Sadly the name changes when spawned from a monster ball, otherwise I might have kept him around and come up with a more sadistic punishment.
Jaxon Lee
It's like you don't want to be filthy rich.
Carson Collins
If he's doing farmwork then he's probably one of the defective ones, like Mark.
Brody Edwards
Make sure you keep him away from any cakes then. You don't want him eating them all.
Joseph Brown
what is best class to swich using business card? I'm playing martial artist/caster hybrid
Matthew Gutierrez
It doesn't change anything. It only change your class name.
Jack Cooper
rtfm
Grayson Gomez
It gives you the class feat if you put the class name in all lower case. Warrior, Predator and Claymore all seem good to me. You could go for archer and change later down the line when your acc gets high enough too
Daniel Allen
Does the Warrior class feat stack with additional melee attack gear calculations or does it use its own separate calculation? Kind of makes it sound like it's its own thing that uses the 5% regardless of what your gear does instead of adding the 5% to the gear's stats. I'm probably over thinking this.
I'm pretty sure it's just a +5% to extra attack chance
Xavier Brown
That's a shame, I'd go with something else then. Not that it matters since I'm working my way towards becoming a pure caster. It's still nice to know though, thanks.
Carson James
any way to make mad dosh with shop since update to 1.71? no more panty crafting, which makes things more complicated
Xavier Price
There's one. Don't update. Alternatively go farm in the void at really high levels and you should be getting 1m every 5 floors
William Diaz
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Jacob Ward
Use pot of fusion (hard/soft/sharp) equip make recipes to make 3 artifacts at a time and sell those might work.
Henry Sanchez
Kek it's even called Vicious Decision.
Blake Cruz
For a pure caster, change your class to Warmage, it gets a flat +5% casting chance so it can cast at 97% in medium armor. The Wizard class feat is fairly useless, too.
Aaron Taylor
That's exactly what I'm using right now. I am a bit curious about the wizard feat though. It's probably much more useful later on, but at the same time I'll have so much mana & recovery it won't even matter. Priest might be a good choice too since healing rain is cast fairly frequently for my pets.
Jacob Nelson
Nah, Wizard feat is completely useless, just -10% mana costs. You'll completely destroy THAT by the time you're done with Act 1. Priest, on the other hand, is +25% healing power. It's OK, but can be replicated with one of the shift cores.
Carson Ortiz
I have mixed feelings about shift cores. They don't seem worth the wish at the moment since I've only ever come across a single one. Maybe I'll get some later. Which also reminds me; any recommendations for wishes? Already got a happy bed, 7 league boots and an aurora ring all from drops Should I save rods to summon gods?
Caleb Anderson
It's up to you, really. Using rod charges on gods is worth it, if you have the faith for the god gem and can get the boss to kill a quest boss or Fort boss as well
Mason Campbell
You can get one god summon per year on the truce grounds, though.
Samuel Butler
I think you lose favor for this though, so if you want the final gift you either need extra favor or a lot of shit to offer to make up what you lost.
Oliver Baker
You need 4700~ favor for summon + secret gift. Imo an extra 700~ is way easier to come by than a rod of wishing.
Isaac Morgan
Got my first . I'm guessing Littler Girl->Witch is the better evolution path than Valkyrie, so that leaves the Young Lady and Fire Dragon Child. Not sure which one I should evolve first.
I agree, just making sure he knows about that.
Austin Bailey
Regarding feats, which ones are better in long run? I've gotten agile, dodge and evasion feats so far
Robert Hernandez
The ones that give you abilities and not stat boosts. Maybe with the exception of the +life, +mana feats. The bonuses from the stat feats become miniscule in time, while the ability feats give you abilities you absolutely cannot get any other way.
Elijah Hernandez
Exorcist. So that your equipment won't get doomed. Vampire Touch to heal slightly, when your MP is low. Knowledge of wild plants. AOE which only affect hostiles and adds poison.
Hudson James
How the hell is one supposed to get out of this situation?
Kayden Roberts
Dig. Teleport.
Wyatt Green
I dunno about this one, feels a bit by the books. Maybe a reference to one of Jure's weirder aspects, like her tsundere aspects or her body pillow, just to spice it up?
Josiah Scott
Rods/scrolls/spell(you might have gotten it from a dream) of teleportation Ditto for return (and possibly escape? dunno if that works in towns) If you have mining, you can (D)ig the wall.
If you can't do any of that, you have no choice but to kill yourself. Give any items (equip is safe AFAIK) you don't want to lose to your imouto, then hang yourself with a rope or wait for your character to starve. You will drop some stuff, but if you get mining from a trainer in Vernis and head back to Lumiest ASAP, you might be able to get your stuff back before the map is reset.
Michael Bennett
You don't need to have mining to dig walls. It will work painfully slow though.
Nathaniel Hernandez
i'd reconsider, since valkyrie 'cheer' is pretty neat
Alexander Perry
I already went with Young Lady->White Princess. The Little girl->Littler girl path also gets Cheer.
Eli Clark
So dodge and evasion are more of wasted Feat points
I've received way too many cursed whisperings in my sleeps so I hope the exorcist helps. Item curses are just inconvenience but all those resistances I get from food tends to happen way too often on my end I even have happy bed
That's why I always have some spell or rod of teleportation.
Angel Hughes
Exorcist doesn't help against losing resistances in sleep. It sucks. Better give them to pets, they don't lose them. Turning random effects off could help too, but resists aren't worth it.
Dominic Barnes
just fuck my shit up then
Jonathan Campbell
It's still useful. It also gives some resistance against enemies that curse your gear.
Kayden Ramirez
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Josiah Foster
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Dylan Torres
lol i just got a spellbook of wishing from a lvl 16 magic vendor
Adrian Perez
So I'm level 50ish, and I'm at the point where enemies are killing my pets and to a lesser degree, me with their magic fairly easily. Is there a way to increase my resistances without equipment? I already have maxed out fire, lightning, sound, nether and darkness resistances, but if it's the other elements or the magic hit my pets, things go to shit real quick. I also already have max mutations, and the resistances that come from eating corpses.
Ryder Green
Kill them before they can kill you, easy
Luis Wood
I've been wondering if equipping an item that reduces resistances on a pet allows them to get higher resistances by eating corpses. I haven't had a chance to test it, though.
Jason Rodriguez
Magic damage is its own resistance that you need to chunk for. It doesn't actually apply to any elemental damage for calculations. You'll either need and item or just start looking to pets becoming stronger. Besides that, you could just get the defender godpet, evolve them, and then stuff them full of magic resist shit since they have absolute defender and will take damage for others. Not that that's really available to you at your level, the problem is probably just that they're under-level. Just keep training them and going around with them, 100,000 gp for each of them every now and then will keep their statgain ridiculously high and they'll eventually be able to take the shots by themselves.
Gavin Baker
I killed Pael's Mom and now I feel bad ;_;
Adam Parker
I keep feeding her Cure corruption potions for a long time now. Supposedly she can be cured. Can anyone explain?
Nolan Mitchell
you monster
Joseph Rivera
Wish is very shit spell. Rods are better.
Just give her these potions. There isn't any limit you can give her at once. Until she is cured, that is.
Joseph Johnson
>its lv35 >summons ANOTHER MOTHERFUCKING
holy shit that was infuriating. I even had magical ammo and rapid ammo in the hand to deal with it, but his health was just so huge
Nathaniel Evans
Are you japanese?
Zachary Edwards
what are these "orbs" I'm supposed to use as keys in lesimas? im on floor 25 and im not sure what im looking for
James Campbell
They aren't actual items, you just need to clear the 3 dungeons the quest giver in Palmia tells you to.
Dylan Rivera
You pick them up automatically after you kill the dungeon boss, check your journal. Should be on one of the right-most pages.
Kevin Howard
Think i'll back out for a moment
It's not like I can't do lower than 90 damage and oneshot normal with gauge attack, but that fucker took my critical hits like a champ
Jackson Clark
I changed it up quite a bit since you were right. I hope this version is more interesting than before, but we'll see. pastebin.com/cN89xXtQ I remember getting advice about this sort of thing, essentially being it doesn't matter if the character is bad, good or funny, because that doesn't matter. What matters is making the character memorable. The worst character isn't one that you hate, it's one that's just sort of there. The usual applies, I've got the weekend off so I'll take some extra requests since I've figured out what I want to do with the BA and I'm going to start working on the firechild. The usual applies, just tell me how it's shit.
Daniel James
How do you store books in the bookshelf?
Cooper Long
Use function usually let's you put books in there. If it doesn't, that means you can't store shit in that bookshelf. I have two in my home that don't work and one that does.
Joshua Long
Should I machine heart my yerles machine infantry up to cyborg status, or hold off until I find a dragon child and upgrade it for that Megid Flame fuckery, since I'm playing magic device/alchemy combat?
Mason Richardson
Anyone know if I can import a house as a save? I'd like to make a new character but keep the way the small castle will be arranged.
Camden Kelly
This happens after you kill the fallen angel. That's in the future, probably.
Hudson Roberts
I'm trying to do the tower of fire but the way to the stairs is blocked. I can't dig either because I keep getting burned before I can. The wiki told me that I need to teleport but a magical field prevents me from teleporting. Do I just have to obtain enough fire resistance until I don't get damaged anymore or is there a trick to it?
Definite improvement from last time. The "religious masochist" theme is hilarious. You might want to go back an proofread a bit though because you seem to switch between referring to the defender as a "they" and as a "she" a lot. As for suggestions, I just got a skogsra recently and they're pretty cute, maybe one for skogsra?
Robert Reed
It's entertaining in moderation.
Elijah Carter
Huh. Who'da guessed Chrischan could rap?
David Anderson
I was just thinking about elona the other day, I downloaded +1.71 and custom and couldn't figure out how to make them work because windows 10
I just want to feed corpses to my little girl to make her strong, anons
Evan Davis
Have you tried compatibility mode?
Juan Wood
I don't know shit about their entity but I'll do my best, user. Pitch me an idea if you want, I'm fucking dry.
Luke Fisher
I'm running 1.71 on Windows 10, I honestly didn't have to do anything special at all. I wish I could help you out there but I doubt Compatibility mode is going to help too much, maybe try running it as an administrator.
Parker Evans
Just checked the kikepedia page on their mythological counterpart and apparently they were swedish faeries that were friendly but if you followed her into the forest she would kill you. Combined with her natural skillset I guess that she'd be friendly and flirtatious at first glance, but she actually has a sociopathic side to her and enjoys seeing others suffer - maybe to the point of implying she's getting off in her kill messages?
Parker Carter
Should I just spend my AP on speed upgrades first? or is there something I should save up for? Same for pets?
Aiden Young
ah yeah, thanks. How bad is the Tower of Fire when it comes to destroying scrolls and such? the actual dungeon itself will be a breeze for me but I'm wondering if I should store all my scrolls/potions and such (no fireproof blanket on me)
Juan White
For yourself only if you're not using a mount, for pets until they have at least as much speed as enemies you're fighting.
Didn't notice anything burning, maybe I wasn't paying attention because it was easy. The blankets are common anyway.
Justin Butler
Spellcaster pets could use Harvest Mana, and maybe Dimensional Move if you want them to teleport out of melee range.
Do you have a magaqua? I brought one with me last time and I never saw any burning.
Thomas Brown
turns out it didn't matter, I had actually already done that one. just needed to talk to the historian.
im pretty sure I can take Zeome, but I'm wondering if I should put any particular pets in a ranch beforehand (the three years that go by). anything you guys would suggest?
Jordan Edwards
a few questions. I am a level 7 gunner, but i want to get into magic too. you know too use magic dart and stuff where can i get trained in casting and memorization? i was thinking of following the god Mani of Machine? i have been using a machine gun mostly i picked up a shotgun but the damage seemed pretty weak?
also i have a rare treasure ball… what do i do with it?
any general advice you can give me for my character, a guild to join, some fun stuff to do? my first char was a warrior (lvl 8) but once i got a decent bow i hated mele combat so i gave up on him.
Christopher Smith
also i been focusing on speed cause… it will make me move faster to stay away and shoot more? wearing light armor i guess paper cloak, glass shows hat girdle. regular scale light mail? should i focus on different armor?
Matthew Phillips
Casting and memorization are trained at mages guild in Lumiest. You need to make guild quest for that first though. Shotgun attack is very dependant on range, pick laser gun with energy cell instead. Open it.
Just focus on getting all skills and raise them afterwards. Don't forget to raise your attributes too by food.
Bentley Stewart
at your level you should focus more on your skills and your pets skills. your pets will level much faster than you so you can use them as meat shields. casting you should already have, memorization you have to learn at the mage's guild. follow whatever god you want but getting mani's guns can be a bit hard compared to other gods
Noah Johnson
thanks. Ya i see y'all talk about food alot. any basic guide to that?
ya about pets skills how do i improve them or what? right now i have a little girl and a mad scientist. also should i get a horse to ride so i can get away from enemies faster?
Dominic Clark
with pet skills what you need to do is give them money, which you can do by (i)nteracting with them and talking to them and doing evochat and passing them 100k gold. Or you can give them ores or flowers for them to sell at town. Something else you'll want to do is get your pets the pickpocket skill (you'll want them to get basically every skill), which requires gene engineering. You need to do a quest to do this, and once you can the usefulness of your pets will skyrocket.
The pick pocket skill will make your pets steal gold from enemies they kill so they can fund themselves. Cooking skill will make your pets cook for you, which increases your attribute potential. Tailoring will cause them to create armor for you.
Parker Sanchez
Yes. To gain resistances to naturally eat elemental monsters. It only goes to normal and it can fall down by creepy dreams. Creepy deams don't affects your pets though.
Caleb Jenkins
Is there any way of seeing where previously held items are or where you died the last times? I seem to have lost my cooler box.
Find ores: elona.wikia.com/wiki/Ore Give them to your pets, or just let them walk over them and they'll pick them up automatically. When you're in a town, they'll sell the ores and spend the gold on training.
The main use for Riding (at least for a newbie) would be to replace your own slow speed with a pet's speed. If you're a golem, it'd be very useful, but otherwise you might want to skip it while you're learning the basics.
Luis Bell
Do quest with little sisters from Stange scientist in Cyber Dome. It gives unique item of your choice.
Charles Scott
Check \save\bone.txt. It should say where you died. My understanding is that you can only lose items in non-random areas, so you might be able to recover the cooler box.
Levi Baker
Thanks very much! can pets ONLY sell ores or any item worth money?
btw, your pets will also pick up gold on the ground
Jaxon James
Ores and flowers Keep in mind, when THEY sell those they usually get a LOT more money than you would usually get when selling those. So Just drop all gold bars on them. Hoard ores to craft tablets of emerald with alchemy and then give those to them for maximum training.
Wyatt Foster
Is this a valid strategy?
David Scott
I mean, you'd have to be lucky enough (and have good enough timing) to get all your flowers during a single month of the year, and high enough gardening to make that worthwhile.
Zachary Myers
Yes. Bleed is just another type of damage. On hit, it'll cause the bleeding effect. It's almost unresistable as a bonus.
Parker Russell
how can i get EV item and mutation?
Carson Harris
Do you mean like evolution hearts? Potions of mutation can be bought from magic vendors if you invest in them, a lot, like up to 100 shop level, and potions of evolution can give you 2-4 random positive mutations guaranteed which can also be found in shops of that level. All of these drop in dungeons.
Jordan Jones
make sure to bless those potions of evolution first. its pretty easy to get blessed water, pick up all water or empty bottles you have. refill empty bottles at the holy well in noyel, (d)rop bottles of water onto altars to turn them into blessed water.
John Brooks
1. What reason to bless them, anything better comign from such evolution? 2/ I mean something tkat stands in pot of fusion recipe- sharp material update or something like that, they all require EV update and mutation (or at least some recipes from pot require them)
Chase Campbell
Blessing a item blesses the entire stack. That's reason enough to use them in stacking items that benefit form it, isn't it?
Colton Long
Yeah, you need evolution hearts for that. They start dropping around level 45~ and up dungeons I'm pretty sure. The only thing that really benefits from being blessed are the potions of evolution, because that increases the chance of getting 4 positive.
Andrew Morris
Blessing potions of evolution ensures you get more positive mutations from them. I think normal potions of evolution give you 2 while blessed ones give you 4.
Owen Howard
>Was killed by in Chaotic Dungeon.
Jayden Morris
*blocks yo'ure path*
Cameron Flores
The ether mutation rate must be fucking incredible at that level.
Bentley Jones
I know you're weakness. The solar cane is actually a staff, not a sword!
Owen Cruz
nothing personal, kid
Juan Butler
It has 100% pierce and that's all that matters.
*begins to run wildly* *shoots a time stop bullet* *shadow step* heh,..,., too slow
Joshua Perez
More like
Mason Williams
My mount is actually pretty balky, and I've a good group of pets to guard me should I ever get blinded.
Christopher Baker
Should I fall for the ride meme? I might make my caster ride something. Maybe my doggo much to his dismay.
Owen Nelson
Unless you're a mutant having to deal with the 50% speed penalty, or wearing tons of -spe top tier artefacts like the metal dragon ring, riding isn't worth it. You'll be faster by wearing two speed rings and having lulwy as your god for the trick.
Luke Jenkins
As a level 7 char. Wtf is going on here
Austin Brown
Mutant race characters get a new limb every 3? levels until a certain level and there's a doctor in act 2? that'll let you trade points from your life stat (permanent HP modifier) in exchange for extra limbs up until a certain amount of extra limbs. This man has, I believe, beaten the final boss of act 1 using only an inherited pet (to minimize exp gain), maxed out on limbs from Doctor Gavela, and then gotten the rest of his limbs from leveling up, savescumming to make sure each and every additional limb is a hand slot.
At least, that's from what I've gathered. I'm just a level 22 living a comfy farmer life in Yowyn and occasionally going to Palmia to spread the good word of Yacatect
Blake Baker
I NEED LOADS OF 100M AND 500M KITTY BANKS BUT I CAN'T FIND THEM ANYWHEREEE
Asher Jackson
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Benjamin Phillips
you seem alright farmer pete even if you are a bumpkin. catch you later alligator.
Jackson Hernandez
did they change something in 1.71 with carpentry? i 40 lvls in it but still i don't have recipe for lightsaber
Angel Murphy
Yes. Crafting was pretty overhauled. You can't just up and craft gear… of any kind. But you can make artifacts of any type of gear you have.
Joshua Reed
But you can also change gear into other kinds of gear. So even if you have no 7LB, you can turn normal boots into them, then craft artifact boots using that one.
Jordan Perez
well then running a shop now it's pain in the ass.
John Martinez
Help. I bought too much cargo and now I can't move on the world map. If I drop some of it in town, will it be there when I come back? I don't want to sell it back and lose muh profits.
Ayden Campbell
they will disapear but i think u can drop half at town then drop half at your house if u go fast enough
Nathaniel Davis
ok so i got my gene machine, i am heading to derphy with it to use it on slaves as i've read online. so to get them the exact skill i want i just need to find a npc with it and combine it with my main pet. also i if i fail at gene engineering does it kill both of the pets?
Jaxon Rogers
You can't fail at gene engineering.
Caleb Cruz
What's this fever business?
Gavin Roberts
nefia fever, basically dungeons get tons of material gathering spots and some music ticket and gold piles
Nicholas Scott
The dungeons are sick, user. FULL OF SICK LOOT THAT'S ALREADY IDENTIFIED, MUSIC TICKETS, DOSH PILES, AND 2x THE AMOUNT OF GATHERING SPOTS
Jaxon Garcia
I'm glad I know this now.
Evan Jenkins
I figured out how to do crafting in 1.71.
Ryan Mitchell
thanks
sorry i meant to ask that as a question i want my main pet (Who is red when i do gene engineering which i assume means i can't combine her yet?) i want her to get pick pocket so i guess i should get a theif with that skill and she will pick it up when i can combine the pets?
Adam Howard
Robber and thief from the slave trader should have pickpocket, yeah. Gene engineering doesn't have a failure rate either so don't worry about it. Your main pet's level determines if they'll be eligible to combine with other pets, based upon your own gene engineering level. It's basically a 1:1 ratio for if you can or not. If you have 25 gene engineering, but your pet is level 27, you cannot combine that pet with anything else.
Luis Campbell
You can gene engineer pets 5 levels higher than your gene engineering level.
Kevin Thompson
Can you gene engineer yourself? I've been wanting to do what Sseth said and pickpocket big daddy's arms so it can't resist me.
Oliver Parker
well hell.. she is level 11 and i only have it at 2.7 is there a trainer some where i can pay to increase it?
Benjamin Carter
You can't gene engineer yourself. You can learn pickpocket in the thieves' guild in Derphy though.
Just increase your potential with any trainer and buy a couple cheap slaves to level your skill. It levels up pretty fast.
Angel Diaz
whoa it does go up fast awesome. So… can i just keep throwing people together to get a crazy amount of skills on one pet or when i combine or does the receiver…. like lose alot of skills or do they always gain a skill?
Jack Phillips
If whatever you're gene engineering into your pet has skills that are higher than your pet's, it will increase the skill level of your pet. By how much I couldn't tell you. If your pet doesn't have a skill the other person has, your pet will gain that skill. You can't lose any skills by gene engineering though, so it's pretty much risk free unless you count going over the 13 limb limit and lose speed.
Gabriel Perez
Awesome i keep trying gansters, and robbers but can't get pick pocket! for my little girl is she too dumb or too innocent :^) ?
Adrian Jones
Checked. Didn't know that, saves me a fugtonne of trouble.
Gabriel Lewis
Thief is the one that teaches her pickpocket I think. Double check if she already knows the skill just in case.
sorry i am asking so many question still very new i try and search through the wiki. how do i make my wizard pet learn new spells? give them books?
Leo Barnes
You can use Custom AI to teach a pet a spell, but you have to have practiced with the spell until it reaches level 50. The only other way is to spend AP, but you have to have completed the first main quest and moved to the second continent to do that.
Colton Jenkins
Pets aren't easy to teach when it comes to spells. If you have elonacustom, then it's a different story; however, if you don't, there's still a few ways. Just hand the fugger a wand and let them zap away. If they're able to be evolved, they'll learn a new spell depending on what they evolve into. They can gain motes of "AP" by killing high level monsters. Later, this can be used to make them learn "Variable storm", "Crystal(Magic) spear(bolt)", tactical heal(Healing rain, critical heal, magic harvest, and regeneration), tactical curse (All the curses.) and "attack into magic darts" actions from Leold the Black Gauntlet long after you beat part 1 of the game, that is. As for custom: it's more intuitive to say the least.
Lucas Allen
how do you use that "limit" bar or what ever below your char?
Jaxon Sanders
When it's at 100%: Press Z, then down, then select Gauge Release.
Jordan Brooks
so i used the custom ai to tell my wizard to forget the spell teleport… but she keeps casting a spell and disappears
Joseph Ortiz
Did you actually set the wizard to use your custom AI or is it still at default AI?
Daniel Smith
From 1 to 2 tiles away, your wizard will DO NOTHING. You want ≥ and ≤
Charles Rogers
Though, having a spellcasting pet constantly in melee range seems like a generally bad idea? Maybe set ≥ 6 to move forward and < 6 magic dart
Oliver Powell
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Austin Cooper
so whats the best way to get more charisma? i want more pets!
Nicholas Diaz
Herb in, equipment bonuses, prostitution, skills that utilize charisma (red ribbon icon), the list goes on.
Jackson Cruz
1. Keep the potential up with potions of potential, breakfasts, etc. 2. Investing. Investing investing investing. Specifically "Invest 50". There is not a single thing in the game that gives experience like Invest 50 does. It's not cheap at first, but with Investing levels and your own progression, it's just a fountain of Cha exp. Charisma is beating out my combat attributes because of this motherfucker of a skill.
Michael Miller
Lewd but it works
Jonathan Bell
what a fox
Jonathan Ramirez
Anyone playing as a Necromancer / Artificer from the guide in the pasta? I am blasting through 2nd act with the power of my bony dick and half a dozen dead-eyes. I am currently hunting out town children to get that to make boss-killing assassin undead.
Haven't touched magic in a few dozen versions, any new tips on spell casting? Ehketal's passive random spell cost seems cool. Am I still basically casting contingency / meteor endgame?
Tyler Gray
Well, this is it. Crazy mutants are pretty much impossible now. If you're in you're in and if you're not you'll have to play on an older version until you get your limbs or elosnack.
My shopkeeper has been unable to sell for a few days. Does my layout have something to do with it?
Grayson Russell
iirc if you don't stack your items they may count as furniture instead of shit to sell. So just put them all in the same tile
Elijah Johnson
You see those brown spots? Those are DISPLAY CASES. Ie: Display Only Not for Sale
Michael Clark
lel was just about to change them all to the yellow tiles. Thanks mang
Dominic Baker
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Anthony Richardson
Lately my little girl has been driving everything to suicide. I checked her inventory, but she's not equipped with anything to do with mind or sanity. What's going on?
Connor Mitchell
good to know
Xavier Hall
The 35 is physical damage and the 13 is either mind or maybe chaos? Post screenshot of weapon.
Christopher King
None of her equipment looked all that great, but the mace had (Great), so I had it identified. It looks to be the reason for all the sudoku. Is it?
Oliver Young
yea it deals ### mind damage.
Ryan Lopez
I have this nice helm, but it seems I'm turning into yiff bait. How do I cure myself of diseases?
Carter Barnes
Drink a "potion of cure corruption", because those are ether disease from spending too much time in etherwind.
Jason James
Jesus christ user, what have you been rolling in ether?
Jose Perry
Join the hivemind guys
Adrian Watson
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Sebastian Miller
Theoretically the slot-loss ones might get downright broken for very high level players. The stat bonuses scale with level without limit.