Nerfs and shiet

PayGays 2 hit full auto weapons so hard, they looked Ugandan. It somehow got to the point where an MP5A4 was outclassed by a fucking Glock 26.

Rebirth did fuck head of krampus but dark bum, while a stupid change on principle alone, didn't make the item unviable at least.
It's afterbirth that really fucked shit up.
Those two just fuck with BoI's fundamental design, like what the hell. A shame too, since I really liked Lilith and the item interactions of it and +. But those two changes alone made antibirth the best version. Have they been modded out yet ?

this tbh I got fucking trips for it too

street fighter and all shuffle fighters WOULD be better without combos though

Man why is it Quake 3 that always gets the spotlight on general Quake stuff. The other day ago I think I saw Quake 3 presented as if its the game with the race mod.

This piece of shit. It's not enough that the game gets very grindy and having a hero die can cost you hours of game time, the devs also have to nerf or outright remove interesting ways to use characters or synergies to make it as boring as possible.
It's still kinda fun but the devs are fucking retarded.

I think that was a direct consequence of people starting to talk how cheating in a single player game or even playing on easy was anathema. A necessary backlash against excessive handholding, sure, but some devs took it the wrong way and interpreted it as "suffering is part of the fun". If the game makes you go through legit shit, it's all the more fun when you finally break through, right ? If that is true, then you should have no possible means of trivializing the annoying part. We wouldn't want you to miss on that exhilarating feeling of victory. :^)

Sounds like Dark Souls 2 in general.

I want to see the dresses for science, you know?

You were specifically asked to provide an example. You can't just name a game and expect everyone to know what the fuck you mean. I played 100hrs of Wrath of the Lamb and even I don't know what alleged nerf occurred. You're an awful OP.

It's a business decision made by the publisher to appeal to the majority of dumb, shitty gamers who can't get good.

Video games aren't a hobby for gamers and programmers anymore. It's a business and a means to spread political propaganda.

Stop playing games that were made by people whose sole purpose of making the game was to spread propaganda or to make money. Start playing games by people who love video games so much they want to make video games.

I'm not entirely convinced you know what the subject of this thread is.

So much this.
Also
I fucking hate lazy devs who won't balance all weapons to be equally effective but geared towards different playstyles.

NERF THIS

No amount of porn will make me give jewzard money.

Truly the most casual of all casuals

I really want to see a multiplayer game where the only devs only balance the game through continuous buffing of weapons, items, and players.

Didn't mean to add the first only, but I think you get what I mean.

We should have a QuakeWorld game night.

It would work if enemies were constantly buffed accordingly.
Powercreep is only bad when it's one-sided.
Warframe is a game where players get constantly nerfed and mobs get constantly buffed.
PSO2 is a game where players get constantly buffed and mobs get constantly nerfed.
What a shitty world to live in.

Maybe if you suck because autos are still fine the nerf to the bodyshots do headshot damage perk didn't seem to change much to me since everything still dies in a couple of hits anyway.

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The heat gauge in Monster Hunter Generations.
The Monster Hunter franchise has a weapon known as the Gunlance. It's a lance with a cannon on the end, and you use it by comboing between firing and stabbing. It's very fun if you can get into it, but it isn't very powerful. The devs go out their way to make sure that the defense-ignoring shells do little damage at the endgame, so gunlancers started ignoring the gun part and started stabbing more.
Some genius at Capcom looked at this and came up with an ingenious solution: Nerf the gunlance. Now it has a heat gauge that goes up when you fire shells, and your stabbing damage is tied to how high the gauge is. You shoot to raise it, then stab to do damage. Sounds decent so far, but then they made it so that if you overload the gauge it goes down to 0 for a minute. No other weapon in the game fucks over your DPS because you attacked one too many times, and they gave this nerf to what was already one of the worst weapons in the game.
To hit as hard as you would have in the last game you need the gauge high, and even that is relatively low DPS. The gauge ruined the free-flowing combos the gunlance was capable of but at least Generations gave it a rocket jump

TF2. Around Christmas 2013 they released a few balance changes, and one of them pretty much broke the game.
For context, the Engineer class is usually vulnerable to explosives, because they can take him and his buildings out. They added a weapon called the Short Circuit, which gives a tiny zap in front of the engie but can disable explosives. If you timed it well you could reduce damage to your base, or outright cancel a solder or demo spamming from a distance. It required skill, but was balanced
In this update, they made it rapid fire. Now you could sit there and hold down left click and counter the classes which are supposed to counter engineers. Engie walks faster than the explosive classes too, so you could walk up to one with your projectile-eating flamethrower-ish gun and zap them to death while they try to run or rocket jump away. They've tried to balance it since but it was ridiculous when it happened.

There's a Brawl mod called Brawl- which does that. It goes by the idea that if everyone is bullshit, nobody is.

but then it also gets complicated when you factor in SP vs MP, and also other nerf and buff options

Warframe has plenty of examples.

I think I'm glad that I didn't pick up MHG if they made one of the coolest weapon designs into something bottom of the barrel tier. Unfortunately I learned to love the Lance and its triple step dodges, over the single step that the Gunlance has.

Is there a better feeling?

Rebalancing a single player game. I cam't for the life of me understand this especially for games like DaS where you are meant to have a large variety in terms of builds, why waste time making something cool as shit like throwing fucking lightning worthless? What is the point when you have 10 other builds that destroy the game just as much, why not just focus that energy on buffing trash builds to make them usable, or better yet not bother at all.

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"Wah I hate when they nerf something that gives me a broken edge on everyone else around me!"

Must have been a VS during the ZOE Max death phase

Just because you're a faggot that doesn't know what the fuck the OP is talking about doesn't make him awful.
He even said on that message "Rebirth", not wrath of the lamb you nigger

Well this is basically what happened to WoW. Leveling used to be long and treacherous and dungeons required you to really work together CCing mobs and whatnot. Nowadays you just bladestorm your way to max level in a weekend and thunderclap sargeras the day after.

Sounds cool, but it has to feel metal as fuck to use the most buffest of weapons.

shit true

That shit pissed me off

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There is extremely bad case of that shit in Warframe.
Not only they nerf frames and guns, then next best frames and guns etc…

They nerfed whole game by removing keys and replacing them with these balls of shit.
As if 8x grind isn'r enough (you just needed to farm keys, now you got to grind for 4x more keys and also this annoying 'fuel' for them).
But now game completely discourages multiplayer. If you need to go for some specific item good fucking luck finding 3 more people who also going there or even people from your guild who would help and willing to spend time and all those balls of shit to grind said items.

And you got that right there is thousands retards who defend this.

Quality of life. Basically changes made to make the game not as tedious or clunky.

Am I reading it right? You get buttdevastated when somebody is.. having fun?

I get what Sega was going for with the "first advanced class" thing, but if advanced classes are going to be this much better than the old classes, they should have added more than one advanced class to start off with so that not everyone would be playing hero.

Darkest Dungeon is what happens when you ask for difficulty, and not fun.

Games that involve killing nowadays already have critically low TTKs to make skill the least important thing possible so the casuals don't get pissed off.
What you want is to take a casual generic shooter and turn it into a dumbed down insurgency, and insurgency is already shit.