Rainbow Six Siege

It really is not. It's mokopekko and not scratched floor man.

Thanks! should've been saging all along

what are you smoking, Ela's entire threat is that she has absurdly good guns, the mines are less of a threat than a deployable shield. Yokai is more threatening and he's fucking useless.
Ela is more of a detriment to her own team than an attacking force because the enemy is at least sort of expecting getting pomf'd but you don't have that warning when some attacker triggers one halfway across the map and it hits you as a defender

I'm fucking tired of Ubisoft releasing new operators, ((("accidentally"))) making them overpowered, and then nerfing them a month later. What fucking genius decided 28 damage, a fire rate of 1030, and 51 fucking rounds was acceptable? What is Ubisoft's obsession with drum magazines and the most retarded weapon selection for these special forces units.

Everything they "fixed" with Operation Health and they still haven't implemented a hamper to your aim when your moving so fuckers can't fly around corners and slowly line up a shot on your head and kill you before they show up on your screen. Counterstrike figured out how to deal with Peakers Advantage long before Siege came out, and despite everyone complaining about it, they ignore it. They have new operators and stances to shove out the fucking door.

Why can't Ubisoft model an attractive woman without hiding her fucking face? Is some SJW HR manager there getting asshurt that women in a video game are more attractive them? Why is Caveira fat now? What does she sneak up on, a fucking cheesecake? With her size she should have the foot sounds of fucking Rook.

At the very least, thank Christ they added more trap operators (quite literally with Ela judging by her looks), stopping 3 speed rushes is a good step forward.

At least with their other OP operators that's got nerfed after they weren't the flavor of the month, they all had weaknesses to a degree. Ela has literally none.

yeah, her guns are way too good, her gadget is ass though which doesn't balance her out at all when she can win basically every firefight short of a 4v1

glaz got nerfed to hell tho… now you need almost a mag to kill rook and half a mag to make a hole in a brakeable wall

wew who coulda known rite?

I think you still need 3 shots, but since he has a semi auto with a slow ROF you really see the shitty hit detectiong when playing Glaz.

If the lines in Ela's voice files are right, the Grom attacker might be Ela's sister, which also might Ela with blonde hair and a better face.

I honestly think he's fine post nerf. His predator vision outweighs his ass damage.

I've seen plenty final kills where someone gets pomf'd by a concussion mine and manages to kill the remaining Ela just fine considering his sight isn't obstructed too much. Her traps are more dynamic since you can throw them and set them from a distance unlike Kapkan and Frost where you need to have a bit of map knowledge to predict where the enemy might come from in order to maximize your chances to catch someone, so on top of the conc mines being good alarm systems, they're better used right before firefights and close-range corner fights.

So I wasn't just imagining it. I thought I kept missing shots because of shit servers even though I knew they were on target. It's probably both.

Prove a

Some people.

Love to try them out AFTER FUCKING GRINDING 25K SHEKELS.
I've been out of power for the past week, but I'm working on getting Legion first as having 7 invisible needle boxes sounds very nice. I also want to do some tests to see if you can setup a Frost mat to kill with his needles.

You can set up an instakill trap with Lesion and Frost, but the enemy needs to step into the frost trap, and then fall onto the lesion trap.

From what I heard, the placement for it would involve the Frost trap being placed long with a Legion trap at the very end where it would trigger after the victim gets pulled into the Frost trap. I also want to see if it can be done even if placed short.
I also am curious as to if non-grenade explosions will kill traps, and at what distance will they do so.

is there any porn of her yet? My penis is getting impatient.

Doesn't appear to be.
tbib.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=rainbow_six_siege

Goddamn it, there's so much potential. She wears spandex sports leggings, and look at how big her boobs are for fucks sake.

I don't quite get what you mean, but, if you have a needle in you, and you're taking the DOT, it'll disappear as soon as you get downed or step in a frost trap.
To instakill, the Gu has to stab you after you get downed.

The whole setup is to have the needle placed outside of the initial area where the player would step onto the Frost trap but close enough to trigger after the player gets pulled into the middle of the trap.
My question is if it's possible to easily place the Gu trap in that area no matter how the Frost trap is oriented.

Well, the caught player always falls on his ass and kicks his legs out in the direction he was pointing when he got trapped, regardless of which way the trap itself is facing.

You need to look harder.

damn nigga thats some good stuff nigga

Since operation health my data center was set to SBR. If your setting is set to default please change it to avoid garbage pings. I went from a 120ms average to 30ms average.fucking ubisoft

Since operation health my data center was set to SBR. If your setting is set to default please change it to avoid garbage pings. I went from a 120ms average to 30ms average.fucking ubisoft

Post yer ops. boys

> I honestly was expecting this to end in snuff. Also, why does it look like she have a bulge.

That's really what I needed added to my ubishit not R6 game. More pedoshit.

Do you guys group up and play with each other?
It would be nice to play together sometime, or have some way of grouping up

jesus christ

I've been playing for a while. I mained Rook when I was still new/intermediate to the game but now I've rarely touched him in the past few seasons.
The game plays extremely differently at different skill levels, and whenever I read these threads I'm happy to see people playing the game and doing things like how I used to when I was still learning the game myself. It's a nice and wierd feeling, I don't know how to describe it.

I'm still not excellent at the game but if you guys wanna queue together I'd be up for it.

You were close!

oh, ok.

Who are you quoting?

phoneposting hurts

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I want to try, like making a discord or something to convene in, try and get some matches going, maybe some in-house custom games if we can manage it for fun.

wHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT?

Caps lock was on and din't notice, woops.

I WANT FREE WEEKENDERS TO LEAVE

I'll set up a

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Another thing I don't get, Echo has a carrier, some kneepads and apparently he's just as slow as Montagne, who has steel plates glued to his legs and arms. It's so fucking inconsistent. Ying looks like robocop, but has 2 speed, and the only difference in armor between someone like Jager and Bandit, and Blitz is the fact that Blitz has fucking shoulderpads, but he's two points slower.

I get that it's for balance, but at least make the heavy characters look heavy.

Well, Blitz has to lug that shield around, but I agree with the rest.
Maybe Echo is just a fat weeb after all.

It must be hard to be this wrong.

Black mirrors are pretty shit right now, since everyone and their mother plays Twitch, and because your average Mira player is an average Spaniard, or Turkroach, or dumb as one.
The Bearing always seemed like a worse SMG-11 to me.

The inconsistency with nip censorship laws always baffles me.

Black mirrors are better than ever now that you can actually Bandit trick Hibana pellets. Even if you say the Bearing is just a worse SMG-11 that still makes it the second best sidearm in the game.

Discord has been made. If you want to play with anons here then go ahead and join. I know that it's

Nip law doesnt regard the asshole as a sexual organ

Given that it isn’t, that makes sense.

No no. You need 4 for a 1point def like bandit or jager…. 8 for rook and if both have an armor good luck getting the kill…before was a 1sk but now it's shit

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Fucking degenerate

What kind of paint are you huffing?

drawing =/= actual child tbqhwy

What are you smoking? It's the worst shotty of all operators

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The Supernova just got heavily buffed this patch, it's actually pretty alright now. The FBI Swat's shotgun is probably worse than it now

what if i want to fuck the anime and not the child?

Is there a good deal out at the moment for that 40 dollar edition? I wanna play but I hear the 15 dollarydoo version has that bullshit unlock rate, but at the same time 40 dollars for multiplayer only seems weird.

There is ALWAYS a good deal for everything as long as you just look hard enough.
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Oh christ I had hoped to avoid Grey market key shit. I'll keep looking but I'll fall back on it if it doesn't pan out

How does this image make sense? Why would that be the response? And why the fuck do women cross their arms when they take off their shirts? Just grab the end of your left sleeve with your right hand and whip the shirt over your head as you pull your left arm down. Comes right off.

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Honestly I couldn't give two fucks about Ubisoft so I don't mind if they lose out on a few shekels.

the anime is doing it to appear seductive

1. I mean in general.
2. It’s not seductive if I’m questioning the reason for the action. The image (meaning visual presentation–what I’m seeing) isn’t as relevant because they’re generic tits. They’re not tits that belong to someone who belongs to me. Immediately, then, the thought becomes WHY the image is supposed to be seductive.

to start off; you might be retarded
1) i am not a girl so i cannot give an accurate reason but i'd assume that your tits would get caught on your shirt if you took it off like a man and it might hurt
2) the anime was drawn to give you an erection. it was set to be the wallpaper of the son of the father who is threatening his offspring of ceasing the marriage between him and his wife unless he stops looking at anime pictures that give him an erection.
3) we are derailing this thread pretty hard. please keep it on topic

Calm your autism mate.

I tend against maining operators, and most of my Pulse hours were before his buffs

As a guy who had gynecomastia through puberty and they were fucking huge and floppy, this isn’t the case. Or if it is, all women are fucking idiots for not still doing it the easier way. Your theory was logical, though.
Didn’t work.
Right.
Right.
But WHY would this happen. I’m questioning both the image and the premise surrounding it. It’s supposed to be humorous, it’s not. It’s supposed to be arousing, it’s not.

Really? I play a lot of echo but since I'm 99% on the drone the shotty isn't used as much….should try it out

Yeah 2 shots should kill you at 35m that's pre nerf user. Now you need at least 3-4
But the rifle ain't the problem because had the same power always but since added the thermal now the pickrate skyrocket and every casual is complaining for the powerful rifle which was the same as before but only able to spot you so they nerfed the power making him useless again as pre-thermal, yes I can spot you but between peekers advantage and nerf now you really have to be a master on the headshot sniper….they should have nerfed the thermal making it useless in close range, or reduce the area of vision instead or a slower rate of fire making it almost a single shot rifle or take out smokes so he had to stay back or rely on teammates

can't help you out with that one, bud.
not everyone has the same taste in humor

n-no? please post proof

im trash

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Its really not

Here it is, you are right 65 dmg but with 25hp rook armor on rook himself that makes 150 therefor is 4 shot plus 1 if he gets downed

Instead of making timed thermal or lower rate of fire they fucked a perfect operator and now it's unplayable unless you use it on PC which gives you a better aim for headshots making all this talk ghibberish

I'm surprised smoke is my most used defender

we don't need two pollack bitches running wild

i hope you just like her guns

forgot my pic

she's a menace

well hey you're playing someone so easy to play it's basically impossible to lose a firefight short of getting ambushed, you better have a good KD with her

also when only having an hour logged on her its easy to have a good k:d

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also when only having an hour logged on her its easy to have a good k:d

mutes always a solid pick, solid gun, nitro cell, versatile gadget, people who sleep on him are fools

He is indeed strong because he not only denies breaches, but also information (drones).
Mute's biggest problem is that playing him is rather boring, not to mention micro-managing your jammers.

Because their shirts are too tight, user. When I used to be a /fit/ lad I had to do it that way til I replaced my old shirts, cause shit would just get stuck everywhere and it was a whole lot more effort.

I play mute because I have a gas mask fetish
This game is excellent in that regard

Thanks Tumblr, this is definitely something we ALL want and need.

Looked him up on the wiki, who the fuck did this
rainbowsixsiege.gamepedia.com/Fuze

I like Tachankas nickname

for what fucking purpose?

kill bumblr.

Man I really thought I would have had more reinforcements breached, but then most of my games are with and against turbo tards so I guess it's not that often that getting into a reinforced area is actually an issue. There seems to be a fuckload of really low level people playing lately, was there just a free weekend or a sale or something?

between the free weekend and the new update there's lots of tardos floating around in matches right now

S.A.S. for life

I want to cluster charge the Tumblr server room.

God damn I fucking miss one and two shotting people. Still love Glaz but the hit to his damage always hurts.

It feels good having that little bit of extra protection, but not the weakness of a full shield op.
Somebody has to protect the team, best part of his abilities is the block the enemies from gaining intel, after that then all is needed is a comfortable pixel peak.

After playing him a bit myself, I feel oddly vulnerable whenever I play any other attack operator.

Do they intentionally make shit maps? It`s all maze like buildings that obviously padding, it confuses beginners and high level play has a optimal way to set up so is all one dimensional, also since all the maps has so much props visibility is always shit. Their new circus map must be the product of a brainstorm about how they can make a new map unplayable for a first timer while compromising visibility the most, I specifically like the midnight black tainting every fucking unlit corner of that place, they have a modern engine with millions of dollars to spend shilling force competitive play and not a single map designer can grasp the concept of "easy to learn hard to master".

I bought this game like a year ago at half price and I still few cheated, now I remember why I stopped playing.

Become proficient

see

just because you're too lazy to remember map layouts does not mean they are shit. the new map is sub-average, but still enjoyable and enforces a completely different sort of playstyle when compared to the rest of the maps.

there's no such thing as easy to learn maps in Siege without dumbing down the points of opportunity, you can only learn the hard way

The new map is surprisingly good from what I've played so far, better than most.
Surprise surprise, the easiest maps are also the worst - House and Hereford are the most boring to play on, and thankfully they're taken out of ranked. If you're complaining about map design in about all the things there is to complain about, you literally just need to git gud and drone better.

The new map is nice but it's considerably too big. Chalet is a good example of big but not too big imo.

I can understand if it was an FBI or JTF operator, but I'm pretty sure you would be excommunicated if you were a trannie.
On a related note, IDF operators when?

Well we already have ash, who is no joke an ex-IDF.

I just had to make this.

I'm at 21,825 renown so I'm starting to think about what operator to get next. Only DLC ones I have so far are Capitao and Hibana so I want to get a defender next. I'm leaning away from Valkyrie and Echo since I don't really like to sit on cameras, and doubly away from Echo since I don't really like to communicate much and I don't want to constantly have to call out what the drone sees since no one else can spot from it. I'm leaning towards Mira and Lesion since their guns seem the coolest, but I like being somewhat mobile on defense and Mira seems to not encourage that at all despite having wall destroying shotguns out the wazoo.

Is Lesion any good, or should I just be boring and get Frost since everyone still uses her all the time?

Lesion is one of the most important defenders due to his attacks slowing down attackers. Because he takes a while to use his gadgets, your playstyle must be slower so you don't die.
Pick Ela.

Don't pick ela, she's a complete shitter pick right now, you hurt your team more than your enemy, and your gun is so obscenely powerful you can 1v1 anyone provided you have the reaction speed of a turtle or better

I'm not really interested in Ela because I don't really like 3 speeds and I think she's most likely to get balance changes that might nerf her into obscurity.

Ela > Lesion all day erry day
Sure, she doesn't get as many device uses as Lesion, but her weapons are fucking brutal. They TEAR through enemies. Video related.
Lesion is a good-ish choice if you prefer staying on site or being a sneaky killer in your own way. Since you can see your traps through walls, you'll see when it gets activated and can move in quickly with your silenced shotgun.
Between the two of them I've had far better results with Ela then Lesion.
Its likely that Ela will have a nerf in the future, but probably not to the degree where she is a poor pick. Such as how Blackbeard was once overpowered but after nerfs he is still a solid choice.

Mira's SMG is great, headshots not required. One of the best defender weapons in my opinion.
Valkyrie is a good pick, you can use her cams to be a sneaky bitch and murder people or place them in more hidden locations so your team gets intel on the sites. Her primary rifle isn't that strong, headshots are important.
Echo can be a more portable version of Valkyrie if you like roaming.
Caviera is also a good defender choice, although she is also a bit map dependent.
Relies a lot on luck, but you can amazing results if you have a Valk or Echo assisting you. On the new map she is a great choice, she hides in the darkness quite well, map is hard to understand for people, and there is cover just about everywhere.
Frost is a fine choice, her primary isn't bad at all. When using her traps you gotta think a bit, not just placing them right in front of doorways. Consider where enemies will be looking as they enter rooms, places of cover, etc. In doorways you can set it halfway or less infront of it so people will have a harder time seeing it and its very likely to catch them. Problem is that they don't die, so make sure to pick them off.

what so you mean she can hit you through 3 walls with her concussion mine when an enemy walks by it?

Where do you read that?
The closest thing I can find in my post is "but you can amazing results if you have a Valk or Echo assisting you"

mis-read sorry.
Thought you were impling that ela could help a team ever and got confused.

Also BB's nerfs were partially because his gadet and gun were good, if you nerf ela's weapons she has literally nothing because her mine does absolutely fuck all against anyone.

RSS is a shitty FPS that tries to be an MLG shooter over a braindead cowadooty clone but fails miserably because ubisoft couln't program a competent game to save their anal virginity.

She will still be effective, there are defense operators with far worse weapons. Her device is crazily overpowered. Enemies hit by it can hardly move their mouse, can't run, and are slowed to some degree. Plus, she always has her shotgun.
Nerfing her rifle will probably be the path that Ubisoft will follow, and possibly adjust how her mine works in some ways. Really I consider it retarded for Ubisoft to stick her in AT ALL. It completely ruins Echo. Her mine does WAY more then what Echo can do and you have the element of not needing to go into/out of a drone. Just line up your sights, wait for the enemy, they get pomfed, and then you fill them with lead.
The video in my post here really shows how overpowered she is. The guy can literally run up to and knife people simply because they are unable to turn their mouse fast enough.

It's been changed to 800 inch penis

Could you elaborate further?
Everyone, follow my lead.

Wow bad players can't react to having their screen slightly disoriented. Seriously people playing shittily not hugging walls correctly, and honestly just shoddy play don't make ela's gadget some god. The only reason Yokai isn't overpowered is that his primaries don't have 51 bullets, have a fire rate of 90,000 rpm, and do more damage than a point blank shotgun. His is a mobile camera that can disorient, much more useful than a shitty mine that will hit your team,and do basically nothing unless they're shit who would honestly probably die to being walked around when they're shooting much less disoriented. The people demonstrated against would fucking mash F the second they see the lesion graphic in the middle of an open hallway or doorway.

It's gotten me killed as a defender more often than I've seen any attacker die because it makes me deaf rather than the enemy.

Wait nevermind I figured out Ela's downside, see, her gadget helps the enemy team. Makes up for the fact that her guns are literally the best guns in the game with no exceptions from any range

this shouldn't matter too much if the person affected is holding the right corner where Ela might pop up, or in a lot of cases, the only corner. It's not impossible at all to kill shit when pomf'd, the visual drawbacks aren't too bad, only the audio and limited mouse sens. are.

Which shows the obvious measure that mines are best used next to doorways and windows leading into large open rooms and areas where they can't sweep over everything in time as you lie in wait

I know, I've killed ela before when pomf'd. But just like you say they have to already be facing the correct spot or else they are fucked.

Thing is that if you could have spotted the trap with a drone, you could have avoided it. However, unlike welcome mats which are obviously visible with a drone and to a large extent so are EDDs, but conc mines are usually placed high up next to a barricade beyond the FoV of an ingoing drone, and nobody has made it a habit yet to look backwards at barricades for conc mines. On top of that they're small and black which makes them hard to see or make out at a first glance with a shock drone unlike with other traps. The natural camouflage is outweighed by the mine being a minor nuisance and alarm trigger most of the time, but I think people will learn to anticipate the conc mines more once they make it a habit to look for them in the first place.

I'll always enjoy house, especially throwing a NFL-certified cooked grenade into master bedrooms corner from the front yard and getting 2 kills

Frost is definite "all rounder" tier. you can use her well on any map or gametype. Leison is very fun and the longer you're alive the more dangerous you become, and if you're REALLY slick, you collect your mines back and relocated them in objective to really fuck up those last-ditch rushes. Valk is also good but she has her own meta when it comes to good camera placement and hoping your teammates don't overscan with them. Mira is a pretty hard camper so i doubt you'd like her, and you're right about echo, if you don't want to be vocal he's not a great pick

is it that good? i always take the scoropion because that makes you a defender with a fucking 50 round mag, thats more than most operators rifles.

Her shotgun is alright, mag fed and the largest shotgun ammo pool I think (around 50 rounds). Her scorpion is better I think, just because she's 3 speed and you gotta get those peeks.

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The only thing you're right about is that Ubi can't fucking code

Good

Invite expired, do we have a new one?

Fucking pedoweebs

Holla Forums is a board that allows loli content, if you don't like it you can leave friend

Disgusting

It should still be working, as it is set to never expire. Here's another one just in case: discord.gg/CH2fs

Ubisoft is starting to run out of ideas for this game that season 3 will be a lackluster piece of shit.
There's also too many fucking Asians, out of all the countries they could've chose they chose Hong Kong.

Shut the fuck up.

There's only 5 Asian OPs out of 33. At least be glad there's less niggers.

It's more about how close together the asians are relased.

Yeah, I'm not sure where they could really go next. I hope we get more defensive ops though. Things more akin to bandit wire and mute jammers instead of killing tools.

Does that guy on the left have a fucking flamethrower?

if they can't come up with unique abilities and gadgets i'd just prefer new maps and universal gadgets. I thought they were on a roll for awhile too, caveira came out great, both SAT/GEO came out well too

don't joke about that because we already have too many trap gadgets

also since GROM doesn't get their own season now it makes ti feel even more like EAST ASIA SPECIAL TACTICS game

It's a free to play game right?
How come I can't play it for free?
First overwatch and now this! I think I don't like this trend.

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see
:^)

how can discord sell the data of me and my friends calling each other niggers and spamming the lewdbot commands?

i'm not comfortable with how often they make operators teeth visible now

I'm not comfortable with how the face reworks made everyone some Trump-tier shade of orange, and made all of the women look like fat cunts.

Caveira is, gameplay design-wise, one of the worst operators in the game.

I swear, Caveira's entire kit just feels like mediocre trash that's powered by magic, and was cobbled together at the last second. I would put good money on Caveira and Capitao originally being a single operator with Interrogation and a crossbow as their original ability set (I highly suspect his asphyxiating bolts were meant to spread incapacitating blue gas to DBNO people instead of the weird not-fire it currently uses).

An operator that can magically make herself silent as long as her mana bar is charged and is able to fire mystical bullets that insta-down someone who's less than 10ft away has no place in this game. A lot of operators in siege have some pretty far-fetched abilities, but at least they can be passed off as "what if" cutting edge tech, Caveira's kit on the other hand is literally nothing but skills that every other operator should posses to one degree or another (or did every single SAS, Spetznaz, GROM, JTF2 and Navy SEAL operator happen to skip "walk real quiet" day?)

What if there was an operator that disguised themselves as a hostage?

Fuze's brother.
Ruse.

What about an operator who can disperse a sleeping agent to knock out the enemy?
Snooze.

If they had a drunk operator, his name would be booze.

She fits in with the game design by she punishing solo attackers who run in. She encourages cautious drone+clear movement from the attackers. Her SMG is bad and her shotgun is only usable at close ranges, same with her pistol, but they dominate those ranges like no other operator.
I don't know how you think Capitao and Caveira should be one operator, they're pretty distinct. Smoke and incendiaries complement his crossbow well, incapacitating blue gas to DBNO sounds retarded. We've already passed the realm of believable kit with Blackbeard, Hibana, IQ, and even Smoke. The game could have a cyberpunk setting and the gadgets would remain the same.

The mana bar is a balancing decision. The pistol that does 99 damage is a balancing decision. We used to have realism as a driving factor behind game mechanics, before devs realized that that was utter shit in a videogame. Tell me where the Caveira touched you, user, because I've never heard of people complain about her before.

Crapitao was probably supposed to be able to interrogate at some point in time. The original idea for operators was that each CTU would have one shared special trait. I remember that SAS was supposed to be immune to smoke's babes, and that they wouldn't cough when walking through a smoke grenade that was supposed to be a thing, also, that's why they all wear useless gas masks.

Why can't you just use the Holla Forums mumble? If you want something more permanent, Wire and Riot are good options (or so I hear).

that would be fucking sick though

doubt it considering attackers get drones already. Cap would probably be less crap if they just gave him a breaching charge instead of making him a 3speed op with no breaching options

Do any of you play on Xbone, no PC is not an option for me unfortunately plus I don't want to install uPlay? I have to decide between this games and Samus Returns.

might as well get samus returns cuz i think everyone plays PC here

Has anyone else noticed that IQ seems to have dropped down to pre-Blood Orchid levels of picking? Or is that just in causal?

What?

Transparent gun shields exist, although not in the form Blackbeard has. Hibana I won't argue. IQ is debatable, handheld Electro-magnetic field detectors are pretty common, just not usually with a visual display. Smoke would make much more sense if the defending team was terrorists, since I assume those canisters are just compressed gas, toxins with a small explosive charge on the valve. Now, Jackal is a bit more bullshit, although the footprint view itself I'm alright with.

How about one that makes you throw the game?
Lose
Oh wait they already have that, it's called your favorite operator

it seems most players would rather risk stepping on a Gu than using her gadget.

There's a pro-league if anybody gives a shit.

nope. Somebody post the webm of the console league players.

rainbow 7 is stupid

I can't believe delocated guy fucks children

Do you have a source on the shared CTU ability thing? I figured the SAS all had gas masks because when people think of the SAS and sieges, it's literally just the Iranian Embassy siege, where everyone showed up in gas masks.

For future reference, the reason why the gas masks are useless on everyone besides Smoke is that Smoke wears a fully sealed NBC hazmat suit, while the other SAS are wearing standard BDUs. His smoke is also probably corrosive to skin as well, which is why 'Why don't the operators just hold their breath" doesn't pan out.

It's pretty clear that for some portion of the design the defending team were supposed to be terrorists, until the "Tom Clancy games are not allowed to let people play as terrorists" clause kicked in.

In general the defence gadgets are ghetto as fuck. Smoke is one of the more obvious examples, since his gadget is clearly duct taped together, and the nitro cell is literally a cell phone bomb. Bandit just uses fucking car batteries, and Tachanka has a tripod mounted MG from the fucking Great War, that last saw use by Somali pirates.

On the whole, defence gets a few more Old And Busted things, while attack gets a little more super future shit like the Exploding Fidget Spinners and Jackal's foot fetish visor.

It's easier to pick thatcher or IQ and actually do something than pick IQ and cry when you can't shoot the 4 meter radius ela mine without it going off. Good guns but still not worth playing.

at least for the initial operators. BONE HURTING DRONE and black mirrors aren't so ghetto. Although i would have liked some more janky gadgets just for the shit of it, like a regular molotov cocktail even

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You can thank americans for that.

What would a molotov have over smoke in terms of area denial? Unless it ignited struck operators for a DOT? Actually that sounds really neat.

Or of course, the old suggestion of a defence operator that carries a fucking ladder around.
But of course, with those old design trends in the garbage, we're only going to get more future space shit as the game goes on. Like Ela's expanding sticky foam bombs, compared to duct tape or drills for old sticky things.

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well it actually sort of was, due to the rapelay incident.

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last years challenge charms were so much fucking better, i skeleton, disco ball, and santa kapkan are grand. I'm not gonna shit on castle though if you have mute or place his walls in "annoyance" areas slightly away from objective you can disrupt the enemy and the UMP isn't shabby

of course he's not my first defense pick ever

reports from TTS users are saying that kapkan is 2/2 now, has 5 traps instead of three, but are nonlethal (what)? and the laser is invisible. Lets see if we can survive another season at this rate

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why do all these people play on console, that being said i hope kap isn't just explosive-frost now and that his gadget can at least kill low health enemies

Then what's the difference between Kapkan and Frost now except Kapkan has more traps but more restricted on where to put them.

I play on the piss4 because my pc is not even a toaster, is a cesio calculator at best

They don't instantly kill, but they might kill someone with low health.

This will make Kapkan better than Frost. Since he is now a 2/2, 5 laser-less traps and an AMAZING primary will make him pretty fucking good. I feel like shit for purchasing Frost yesterday, though.

I swear if you could use IQ gadget with her rifle you would actually see players main her also because the agu12 is fucking good but since you end up with a shitty pistol when the best use of her gadget is close to the objective she will never get out of meme hell and waifushit

Niggers could be very entertaining at least, chinks are like rats and monkeys are always more captivating on an average basis.

Korean defender will probably have what's called a CornerShot. Another aspect I thought was different alternatives to gadgets i.e. Fuze gets 1/2 cluster charges but they got further or do more damage and Frost gets instakill traps.

Rapelay incident?

and if they let him keep his nitro cell he'll be really versatile. I've always liked kap but i'll sorta miss being a fatboy 3armor stalker with him

her and tachanka can't truly be viable without radically changing the gadget, iq would need a visor or something. or better means of showing her teammates what her gadget sees. tachankas gun really shoulda just had a bipod for better grab and go

When did this game fill up with such whiny children who cant accept consequences for their actions?

Basically the american news media caught wind of a game called rapelay (which had come out 3 years before they suddenly cared) but this resulted in the US government freaking out and imposing a trade embargo and honestly almost killed relations with japan

Because people are niggers, or French, user.

you payed for a (((ubisoft))) game so you deserve to get shit on

Jesus Christ how horrifying.
JESUS CHRIST HOW HORRIFYING

If I had to take a guess, I'd assume the trap can OHKO a 1-armor and will down 2/3 armors.

if it could still send a headstrong ash player to the fucking shadowrealm, and if i have FIVE opportunities to send that ash player to the shadowrealm my kapkan usage would triple, and he's already one of my more used ops cuz i like his gun.

I play Krapkan for the instant diamond hard erection you get when you're squatting in a freezer somewhere, and you see the hitmarker and the killfeed after someone sends themselves into the shadow realm.

no one ever fucking checks for those lasers when cards are on the table for last rush

While that is great, I will contend that getting a claymore kill on an defender attempting to rush outside is better.

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thatcher main for life

where do these fucking niggers come from

You are playing one of the most popular games of today. Dare I say, Siege is a borderline meme game at this point.

Attention PlebStation users, the latest update to Siege is bricking PS4s. I probably wouldn't even open the game up until they fix it.

I agree, I think a 2/2 Kapkan would be a good change, especially since it would make placing traps at the start of the round easier. However, I don't think Siege needs more non-lethal traps and certainly not when Ela and Lesion added two more non-lethal ones. Although, I am aware that Lesion's can kill.

On the other hand, I'm surprised no one is talking about the Blitz buff.

all we know about so far is he'll move faster with shield up

Some of the recoil-pattern changes in the TTS.

Right, but do you think that's the right way to buff him?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Blitz and Monty has the same ADS time even though Monty is carrying half a car.

Personally, I would rather see them buff his ADS and shield flash range, as I just don't see faster movement being the thing he lacks.

The flash has always seemed unreliable, granted shields are my least used attackers. there have been several times as defense though where i feel like he flashed my right in the face and i shrugged it off. I imagine they want him to be more like he's presented in his operator video where he can be a far more offensive shield than montagne is and they think speed might be the solution.

its TTS so subject to change but i doubt it will end up being much more radical than what they've presented

RIP Jager's ACOG

You got any facts to back that up faggot or are you just shitposting?

Here's some plebbit links. It's shaping up to be a total shitshow for either Ubisoft or Sony or both .

reddit.com/r/Rainbow6/comments/717bvv/important_ps4_players_read/

reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/71780s/warning_do_not_download_latest_rainbow_6_patch_it/

When you play IQ now, you have to sort through almost 8 consecutive pinging electronic shits every time you open her gadget. It's slown her right down, so much so that it's better to take a Thatcher to just throw shit in the vague direction you're rushing than use IQ who has to sit there and go 'Hmmmm, there's four gadgets in that doorway and one might be a trap, can I get an angle on that one? No…. hmmm… Oh wait one is a jammer, one an ADS and two are friendly drones".
They're gonna have to start fucking color co ordinating the pings now because with potentially 11 electronic traps available to place before the round even starts (quickly going up to 15) she has way too much to process in a fast paced round.

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Truly a nation of patricians

They said it's gonna be unique for each weapon so we'll see. Personally I'm kinda apathetic towards the change.

Are these ubiniggers seriously this fucking retarded? What was wrong with the current recoil system? 9mm AK patterns have harsher recoil than a fucking 5.56 rifle.

So, a worse frost?
Just fucking kill me, or this game already.

thanks

They said its gonna be unique.
I guess some people were bitching about the RNG.

Oh yeah, it certainly is unique. As in, it's dogshit. Plus, the weapons don't have any shake to them, they just perfectly follow the pattern. Pistols still have a recoil animation, but they don't actually kick, so it's like the AK from COD4.

Also, Kapkan's traps deal 40 damage now.

Ubisoft loves to jerk themselves with drum mags on AR platforms while AK patterns get told to go fuck themselves

Whats the fucking point? Lethal traps, shit guns, nonlethal traps, good guns. Not hard to fucking balance, even with 4 trap operators.

You should see the LMG recoil pattern

drones don't show up on the scanner anymore luckily

are traps going to just exist to annoy people now? it actually makes him seem the worst choice of trap op now because everyone elses trap slows down or stops the enemy entirely

to be fair most of these operators are using weapons matching their origin so giving everyone AK variants would be kinda silly

rainbow6.ubisoft.com/siege/en-us/news/152-301767-16/weapon-recoil-overhaul

I had no issues with the existing recoil patterns so i feel put off by this

Meh, we shall see how it is. It will obviously feel weird at first but I hope that it will be better in the end.

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What the fuck. That's horrible.

Apparently it was what caused misaligned shots.

How do I into blitz? I'm tired of thinking I'm safe only to have people take pot shots and kill me. He's so fun to play but his shield is made of paper or something.

if they're aiming at something other than your head and standing still center your aim on their head and begin firing until they're dead

The general rule is to treat blitz like a slow shotgun with a little more survivability. Blitz's flash works 4 meters ahead of him, so that's the range you want to be playing at.

Never peek long angles, because unless you've made some kind of blood pact with satan you'll never get the 4 hipfire body shots it takes before they blow your arms off. Rather, move around corners, push into small rooms, take as much advantage of chest high cover as you can as you're moving into larger rooms, and do whatever you can do minimise damage as you move 4 meters into the enemy. At that range, you flash them, then sidestep so they're less likely to kill you from random spray. Then hipfire unload into them until they die.

Of course, if enemies are completely unaware, feel free to ADS and take them out, but ADSing when they're aware and peeking you is just going to get you punished every time.

Lastly, while you want to be within 4 meters, try not to be too close to corners that you know enemies are going to turn from. If you're within 1 meter of them, they're just going to run behind your shield with peekers and blow you out.

Don't move while shooting, it drops your accuracy down the shitter, and similarly, don't bother firing at someone who's also already firing at you, every hit to your shield throws your aim off like crazy.

bump because I came in again to check the OP picture

This is going to be a very long post on recoil patterns. I plan to edit this a little and put this one reddit so siege devs might actually see it, but I like you guys more so let's hash out my thoughts.

I'm against set recoil patterns in Rainbow Six Siege. On the TTS, Ubisoft has implemented fixed recoil patterns to the guns in the game, dividing them into a couple of categories, but the pattern is slightly different between each gun. This change was done on Ubisoft's end initially as a means to fix sight misalignment, but they took it as an opportunity to reduce RNG in terms of the shooting in the game.

However, beyond the obvious issues of a set recoil being easy to abuse with macros, especially given Ubisoft's atrocious anti-cheat software, RNG recoil, and RNG in general is an important factor to the fun of video games in two ways.

The first is as a balancing tool. At the moment, guns in Rainbow Six Siege are balanced upon 4 major metrics. In an arguable order of importance -

Shotguns, for instance, have an instant TTK at their effective range, and have the easiest control of any class of gun. However, their incredibly limited range makes them a completely worthless pick for your primary damage.
Similarly, DMRs are very easy to control, and have unparalleled effective range, but their very long TTK compared to ARs limits their effectiveness.
Within the AR and SMG classes, the most commonly used guns in the game, these 4 metrics separate niches. The SMG-11 for instance, has singularly the highest DPS of any SMG. However, it is arguably balanced by an incredibly small clip size for it's RPM. Buck's C8 has a higher TTK than sledge's L-85, but many people would argue that the L-85 is a better gun because it is easier to handle, ceterus paribus.

The issue with set recoil patterns is that, given practise, "ease of control" is completely nullified as a balance metric. The fact is that even with practise, random horizontal kick to each side is very difficult to adjust to on the fly, and will cause even the best players to miss a few shots in a spray. This is a tool to help pull the guns with the best TTK in line with the others. Without some degree of random spread, with practise all guns can simply be ranked in a linear list by their DPS at ~10 meters, which hardly presents an interesting choice to players at the pick screen.

And why do guns need to be in line with others? Due to the class based system of the game, operators with stronger gadgets must have worse guns, else they become integral to every team, leading to a stagnant and boring game. And removing decision making from the player cuts into the fundamental reason to play videogames, fun.

Leading into stagnation, RNG in general, while often derided, exists in videogames for a reason. The less RNG a game has, the easier it is for it to be 'solved', and 'solving' a game is invariably a question of memorisation. There's a reason why Bobby Fischer invented a form of chess with randomised starting positions. At high level chess play, the first 20+ moves are merely playing out memorised openings and their counters. There's little interesting decision making from move to move, and it's about as exciting as reading off your times tables.
MTG is a game with about 25 years of development behind it, and despite years of experimentation never dropped the RNG aspects of card drawing. Because if both players know exactly what's going to be in their decks from the beginning, why play at all? Just submit the decks to the judge at the beginning of the game and they'll mathematically work out who wins first, provided each player makes no mistakes in play. RNG forces players to make on the fly decisions, whether they be larger strategical decision in turn based games, or the immediate, instant pushing and pulling of the mouse to adjust for that sudden hook left in your spray.

Removing RNG from recoil, without adding the corresponding support systems that games like CS have, is an inherently poor decision, and one that shouldn't make it to live.

If you use a M+KB on console, yeah it's cheating. M+KB is a flat out better input device and gives you a hard advantage in shooters to the degree of having cheats.

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hopefully they don't go through with it, it seems to be getting negative reception. Ubi tends to listen to the wannabe pros and who want less fun and more Ash

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Defenders, user, they're defenders.

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Why would you want another 3 armor attacker? Unless you want another shield attacker like actual kool aid man

Ying was supposed to be 3 armor, you can tell, by how she's a fat cunt, but she would've been even more shit for prolapseeague, so the pros and ecelebs complained, and now she's a two speed.

frost traps down kapkans new traps do 40 damage.

God fucking damnit I hope everyone on reddit shits on ubi so they go back on it. Blitz seems good though, as it seems you can basically sprint with shield up but no pistol, and actually live up to his namesake now.

Sounds fun as fuck to chase fuckers downs with blitz. Shields are somewhat less viable these days with all the traps.

I like anything thats 3 speed.
IQ with LMG only.

Fuck I've been killed by aiming at a blitz head and whe went full asdmode but he shot without actually finishing the animationso the shield was technically still covering him but he got my head

Due Process. Nuff said

Honestly that's lookin' pretty good but god those animations need work.

well I guess if you like 21 damage per shot with a shotgun, that's fine

nice game lmao

WIP

Finally. I can definitely see uses in it as a "support" weapon now. The IQ pushing never ends.
Blitz sprinting might be fun too.

But that would be rad as fuck. Make a robot operator that can run through walls. Give him an optional shield, a cool arm rifle, and a sweet robot voice. His gadget would be explosive shoulder bashes, which allow him to explosively and instantly ram through walls at the risk of instantly exposing himself.

i always thought some kind of instant breach and entry would be cool but sledge already sorta fills that roll

Like the logo for Siege? I always thought it'd be cool to have something like a shield operator that can charge through doors 'n' shit with their shield up - perhaps have a shaped charge explosive on the front that aids with breaching when it makes contact with a wall.

pretty much exactly what i thought

I think they should just start ripping gadget ideas from The Division at this point. Like a shield operator that automatically pings people that shoot his shield, or a defender that can place a deployable shield with an explosive charge hidden behind it, which he can then detonate and blast everyone in front of the shield.

Honestly I think they should just focus on making good maps for now. Maybe eventually put some brainpower behind a new game mode. The game doesn't really need more operators constantly.

Oh boy.
You're in for a wild ride.
They want to have 100+ operators in the game

How do you get to this screen?

Yeah that's one of those dumb faggots said, he is a "brand director". Doesn't sound like a very important position from development perspective. He's probably a PR clown, meaning whatever he says can be taken with a large grain of salt.

It really sounded more like a marketing thing to get some more eyes on the game.
That's what I want to think at least.

On the siege website.

They're already creatively bankrupt when it comes to new operators, there's no way they could come up with that many, or even keep the game profitable/running for that long, there's no way it isn't some faggot talking out his ass.

You don't understand the fun of being a shield op

I honestly think they should give that to Montange. He's not very useful right now as it is. Although the problem is that now he overlaps with Sledge but I believe it's possible to balance that out pretty well.

Exactly. Hell, I don't even blame them for running out of ideas. There's only so many interesting things you can do. That's why I think they ought to focus more on maps, because I don't know about others, but I don't really like many of the new maps they put out.
Coastline was decent in its simplicity, but others like Favela, Skyscraper and Themepark (haven't played the last one much yet though) feel very chaotic and too 'messy'.

Yeah with how many traps I never pick montage because you either walk in a kapkan, lesion, ela, frost trap and basically become useless or have to expose yourself and clear the trap

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There honestly aren't that many gadgets from The Division to import, except maybe a deployable autoturret and the rolling seeker mine.

I mostly agree, I always like to see new operators, if only to get some fresh meat, but having to add unique abilities to all of them is going to be nigh impossible.

I agree that Favela was a poor map, but Skyscraper and Coastline have strong room themes, it's easy to identify the purple bar, from the blue, to the one with hookahs.

I mean, they went creatively bankrupt when they made an operator that has plastic wrap on his gun that makes him immune to headshots, and an operator that just gets to put out more cameras. Sure, Niggerbeard and the Camwhore are strong characters, they're just not very interesting.

It should be that on 70% of focus
Since they are running out of ideas they probably should spread them out like one per season rather then 2
There isn't that much else you can do without wrecking the game style….what else can you do? Catch the Flag can't work because they idea is respawn based… Multiple hostage that need to be rescue at least half of them? Pure death match is basically every shit objective on shit maps secure the area in barcley U Find the objective and the defenders actually hide it?

This opinion have been officially discharged.

C'mon mate, you either are baiting or flat out dumb

They're not interesting on paper but when you're facing them they're very strong and very interesting by Valk supplying more intel and Blackbeard able to direct firefight against most people. You have to play around the fact you'll have to catch Blackbeard off guard to even win against him in a duel (which is most of this game's confrontations) and with Valk you have to keep your eyes peeled for extra cameras.

Nice strawman, but since its not actually forbidden you're just mad that someone came to the race with better equipment and you're too dumb to get some too.

Same as pretending to have a health problem and win the paraolimpics or MtF trannies compete in female race but you still don't see people do it don't you? Nigger If I wanted to use that equipment I would play on PC, but since I'm not a petty 12yo like you I understand when things are needed and when not
Jeez paying 400 bucks to by and adaptor and plug the USB sure is complicated

You can come up with strawmans all you want it doesnt change the fact that its not forbidden.
I could go on a retarded tirade like you and imply that since most people use a HD screen of around 24 inches with a refresh rate of 60hz anyone that has better screen is cheating since they have more reaction time. They're not to, anyone can do it, its allowed and you can only cry like a bitch nigga about it.

He must be the luckiest motherfucker in the world, because firing before finishing your ADS gives you the same bullet spread as hip firing while moving.

What a fucking retard.

Having a laf when you flank two 3 speed operators and manage to gun them down with this fat ass.

So console players are akin to disabled people?

Woah dude, you might bust my sides and give that guy a stroke or something if you keep that up.

How are they not? Especially those who 'competitively' play shooters on them.

Hey man, even disabled people train hard to play in the Paralympics.

If you think console Siege is bad, you should see faster shit played on console, like Titanfall 2. Jesus fucking Christ on a crutch, it's like watching two legless Albanians fighting in a pit of mud and tar, for the right to steal the last kidney on earth.

I guess they want him to be a real roamer now.
Not having a laser means it's much easier to trigger, and the explosion sound will make it easy to finish people off.
Not sure if it will work that way though.

I dont think it'll leave people quite as vulnerable as ela or lesion does but it might be effective since I really doubt a sudden explosion helps you concentrate at the very least, but making use of that split second distraction would require you to camp that specific spot to be effective.
Now that I think about it could it be enough to bring their HP down so much that shotgun would 1 shot them?

I meant more that the explosion will help you find people, rather than it confusing the enemy.
And the advantage kapkan has is that he'll have 5 of the fuckers now.

You realize that Reddit is that way right? If you play on a better monitor it's fine, because would be using a different saddle since I can use a better monitor then you myself…if you use a M+KB it's like using a car you dimwitted nigger

True, I'm pretty sure it'll be less effective as time goes on since people will start to pay attention to door / window frames.

Holy shit lad you're autistic, go play with horses you turbo retard.
Go play with horses you whiny retard.

Nigger keep lying to yourself, when you will actually reach 18 and will be legally able to post here with us don't and leave

Kapkan's been here since launch. Frost was the first DLC operator. It amazes me people still blindly jump through windows and doors. Besides, the purpose of having 4 trap operators is to punish 3 speed rushes.

The problem is Frost is the odd one out now because her traps are fairly obvious compared to the other 3.

Kap's changes haven't gone live yet, I'm still hopeful they revert him.

maybe some kind of mode where the destruction doesn't reset between rounds? that would be neato

Imagine, like 45 different ways to place a trap

at the same time if kap changes go live, she'll be the only trapper who gets a guarantee to incapacitate

checked, but also i really hope they don't go live with the new recoil patterns that suck dick

It's actually not that hard to flank people with thunder foot rook. You just have to figure out where they're gonna try to push and run while people are shooting.

And 50 ways to punch through a soft wall as an attacker!

the only new and exciting way i could think of a soft wall breach is something like earlier in the thread, a shield that allows instant break and entry into the room

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