who is the biggest hack in the industry?
Who is the biggest hack in the industry?
>oh no they look slightly similarLosers really salty over success of a true hustler like Butch huh...
>>133080789That actually looks nice.
>>133080789Westerners should never draw anime stylized characters. It never works.
>>133080789It's okay, but he needed to fix that eye on the right.
>>133080789Butch is a retard but this "controversy" was so fucking dumb
How do you get a job in animation without being able to draw.
Looks like she has downies on the right, but people will defend it cause Butch is le based!
>>133081170I prefer the look of the comic. It's got that early 2000s Deviant art weeb look.
>>133081949You are so fucking retarded it hurts
>>133081170Was animated in South Korea. I don't agree with the other user, though.
>>133081220He redrew someone's art. He should be called out for it.
>>133080987USonians you mean. I've seen chileans, argies and people from distant corners of Europe pull it off. But a yank? Never.
I never liked the hartman shows, sure, they have hot females like maddie, but just that. the humor is shit and development as well. and he, not telling to his fans that he would use the money for religious cartoons is a bad move, Im a believer but I would not play that dirty, specially because I know not all the people is into that or probably they are part of different religions. it would be the same as asking people for doing atheist propagandaHOWEVER. the whole trace drama is retarded. I think people is saying he trace only because they expected he drawing like stephen silver, the actual designer of his shows>but they have the same poses as the original picturesthat's eyeballing and that's ok. they would look less shitty if he was actually tracing
>>133080789There is nothing wrong with using references
>>133082542it's still anime stylized; doesn't matter where the fuck it was made.
>>133080789Hartman gets way too much hate, literally for being an outspoken Christian. Its fucking insane. like he didn't sexually harass any one, he did a lot of work (even if I don't like it, loads of people did) and built connections and built a legacy. the people who hate him come off as insanely spiteful losers.He might be a total cunt IRL, idk, but jesus christ the people who hate him are fucking crazy.
>>133082719>I think people is saying he trace only because they expected he drawing like stephen silver, the actual designer of his showsThis Hartman always had a Jack Kirby inspired art style has seen in his current stuff.
>>133082582Correction, someone directly commissioned him and he redrew someone else's art to fulfill it. Which is worse than if he just redrew it of his own volition.
>>133080789OH NO, ARTISTS USE REFERENCESWHAT A SHOCK
>>133081020It looks awkward because it reveals the differences in how the two artists do things. The nip artist shows where the eyes are looking through the shape of the eye folds whereas Butch does the more cartoony holdover of physically moving the pupils, which doesn't look good in non-cartoony contexts. Butch was 100% "symbol drawing" what he imagines an "anime style eye" to be and then adjusting its pupil.
>>133080987So I'd take that you've never seen Avatar: TLA or The Boondocks in your life. Am I correct, user?
>>133080789Don't careLove Mikasa
>>133082542By that logic, anime isn’t Japanese.
>>133080789> the Butch Hartman haters are backStill so bad at looking at artwork they can't tell it's not traced, they never learn>>133082895Cool piece
Butch Hartman is bad because he…. IS CHRISTIANbravo incels
>>133084227Aren't incels Christian?
>>133084241your question is so many levels of stupid that it's not even funny
>>133080789I still get a laugh out of the TF2 heavy redesign he did
>>133084227Gonna have to give you the chad YES on this one, there, chief.
>>133083702S1 Mikasa for sure
>>133080789How long until he's gets a redemption arc
>>133082836>>133083950>Westerners should never draw anime stylized characters>South Korea>Westerners
>>133082542>Was animated in South Koreaoutsourced animators don't do the character designs retard
>>133080805>Paying for a commission that's essentially a shittier version of what someone else drew for free.I know it's more for getting something drawn by a(n in)famous person, but that's still pretty shitty.>>133082542A lot of cartoons and anime are animated by korean slaves though.>>133082719It wasn't traced though, he posted a speedpaint process. He just heavily references. With how his drawings usually come out, I don't think he's really a professional illustrator.
>>133085238>pretty shittyIt's standard you buffoon. Expecting someone to understand a character well enough without hours of research to make a unique expressive character pose for just a single commission is unreasonable.Most artists just draw their commissions with similar bodies or copy the official art in their style.If y'all don't know anything about doing art as a job, avoid the topic. You're just pushing unfair expectations
>>133084289Looked this up out of curiosity and found this instead
>>133085269As if you of all people would even have an inkling of what goes into the process of drawing.
>>133085269>It's standard you buffoon>straight up copying someone else's art and calling it "reference"You're being paid to put your own twist into the art, and you're expected to not just copying the original's pose. clothing and expression using something like "muh reference" as excuse.
>>133085524>straight up copyingYou truly have no fucking clue what you're talking about> put your own twist into the artYeah you draw it in you artstyle you moron
>>133085411I'm more offended by the Sly Cooper one.
>>133085269>two right hands>it's standard
>>133085545By your logic the traced shit on deviantart is legit, because they are doing on their own artstyle too, fucking retard.
>>133085604>traced and referenced is the sameKill yourself also it probably won't really be in it's own artstyle if it's traced
>>133085295You're just mad that Jiren mogs your verse
>>1330856291. stop being a retard, Butch will not fuck you. 2. The dude just straight up copied someone else's work with barely any modification, if this were a court Butch would had lost.3. You're a fucking waste of air, kill yourself now.
>>133085269>Expecting someone to understand a character well enough without hours of research to make a unique expressive character pose for just a single commission is unreasonable.As a porn artist I can tell you this is utter bullshit
>>133085269>Expecting someone to understand a character well enough without hours of research to make a unique expressive character pose for just a single commission is unreasonable.>"Unfair expectations" I've already known this before but it's pretty obvious nobody has commissioned you, so don't bring up experience. I've seen anatomy-fucked artists put more effort into their commissions. An artist doesn't have to learn every bit about a character's story, just find some reference art and a pose you'd like to do. You're really defending this garbage >>133085512 >>133085581>>133085545I don't think you understand what he's trying to say.
>>133082890>Be part of a misogynist hate group>Waaah I'm being oppressed
>>133085474>As if you of all peopleThis phrase always earns a STFU, this place isn't for anonymous cowards to start their nonsense drama>>133085524This is a worse likeness than what Butch does which goes to show how little you know.You don't get to make up any rules for commission artists, that's just you trying to shop around your entitlement. If you don't like their commissions, don't hire them, end of story>>133085718>Butch will not fuck youPeople should who say this shit should not try to sound intelligent or pretend like they have an "argument." Go home manchild >>133085748So you're bitter at a better, Christian artist
>>133080789I'm just curious: What makes someone a hack?
>>133085411I have this one, but I remember there's one with the actual heavy for side-by-side comparison, which makes it strike harder
>>133085825>Copy posing, clothing, expression while passing it as originalAt say it's a redraw, you fucking monkey. You could get away with this excuse if you were using the official reference sheet, but this a redraw/copy of another guy's art, brainlet.
Am I a hack now, OP?
>>133082890This. Americans are fucking weird.
>>133085798Go back to watching Rick and Morty, cuck fetishist.
>>133086087Rick & Morty is just Futurama for people who think they're smart.
>>133085512You could literally pay a 14-year-old on Deviantart $10 and get something a magnitude better than this.
>>133085785>I've already known this beforeShut up you loser doing personal harassment, blowing hot air in obvious frustration. You don't care about the truth, butch hartman, or art.>>133085940Gibbering.>>133085920What "strike harder"? It's just a drawing he did, it speaks to your poor mental state that you expect people to even know why you care so much about it.>>133086177You should stop running your mouth because it sure feels like a good time to resume drawing fanart of his characters. The last time I did a single drawing in 16 minutes it mindbroke one of you trolls for monthsAnyway, you're older than 14 so why don't you show us what you can do
This is a painful thread
>>133084390S2 best Mikasa
>>133086230>Shut up you loser doing personal harassment, blowing hot air in obvious frustration. You don't care about the truth, butch hartman, or art.>Gibbering.>What "strike harder"? It's just a drawing he did, it speaks to your poor mental state that you expect people to even know why you care so much about it.>You should stop running your mouth because it sure feels like a good time to resume drawing fanart of his characters. The last time I did a single drawing in 16 minutes it mindbroke one of you trolls for months>Anyway, you're older than 14 so why don't you show us what you can do
>>133080789Larroca, to answer your question.
I am a hack and a retard.
>>133086532That's my face when moron trolls jealous of real artists spew their mental issues at me and I have to deal with it to fix cartoons for children.>>133086548Based.
>>133080805Hey Butch. Cured anyone of autism yet?
>>133082719Copydrawing without permission of the original artist and without crediting them is just as bad as tracing. t. actual professional artist. Commissioners have tried to get me to simply copydraw and replace the character numerous times and any actual decent artist will refuse.
>>133086584It almost looks like used a still from that invisible man film starting Chevy Chase and Sam Neil. The one that originated the "man being threatened by a PS3 game" meme.
>>133082719>they would look less shitty if he was actually tracingOuch.
I'd ask when the atheists became the puritans, but you fucks have always been so easily offended
>>133087119>CopydrawingWhat a retarded phrase, it truly shows how little you understand what you're talking about.
>>133087119also artist here. to me, the customer is the one who should ask permission for that, not me. Im too busy for that shit. in the end, he is the one using his money and he should be the one responding for it. even then I dont like draw actual copies of pictures, I always try to change something, if the customer doest like, he can eat shit
>>133087321Post your artist socials or kill yourself. Unless you're actually working in this industry to some degree your opinion is less than worthless.>>133087607I've straight up refunded some cunt who kept trying to make me 1 to 1 copy a pose. Explicitly stated in the invoice and the application form that I wouldn't do it, and started raising a stink when I explained multiple times to him that I was not about to risk my livelihood being marked as one of those cunts.
>>133088017>Unless you're actually working in this industry to some degree your opinion is less than worthless.What an utterly retarded thing to say you don't need to be part of the industry to know art and two by that logic you had no right to start this conversation without posting your work.
>>133087119>>133088017Ridiculous. You can't copyright a fucking pose, and anyone who complains should be simply ignored. On top of that it takes a lot of work to learn how to make a character express themselves like the actual series - actual crew members receive lengthy training to do it properly, which isn't going to take effect for one CommissionY'all are messed up in the head about artistic matters
>>133088375>people receive extensive training to learn how to draw>none of this training and no skill will be used to draw a picturePlease, once again, post proof you have drawn a thing for money in your life, or anything at all.
>>133080789probably john k
>>133088482>Please, once again, post proof you have drawn a thing for money in your life, or anything at all.Not him but you first
>>133088017Post your socials