Uncommon Time Thread #3: Autism Edition

Caleb James
Caleb James

YOU FORGOT TO BAKE THE BREAD
YOU FORGOT TO BAKE THE BREAD
YOU FORGOT TO BAKE THE BREAD

Previous Thread: >>13214322

You can find the stream over at smashcast.tv/Thassil

Starting in 45 minutes at 6PM EDT come and watch!
Two years ago yesterday, Holla Forums found Uncommon Time, a shitty tumblr RPG.
Why is that worthy of an anniversary thread?
Because we played through it, streamed it, and had an amazing time laughing at how horribly awful it was the first year, and last year too; I want to do it again with all you anons this year.
We also created a ton of OC, which you might've seen over the past two years. Hopefully we can create even more.
And last but definitely not least, we found an amazing character in that game, the only saving grace this game has. Teagan Who did nothing wrong.

Other urls found in this thread:

archive.is/o3Eg4
archiveofourown.org/works?utf8=✓&commit=Sort and Filter&work_search[sort_column]=hits&work_search[other_tag_names]=&work_search[query]=&work_search[language_id]=&work_search[complete]=0&pseud_id=feralphoenix&user_id=feralphoenix
archive.is/o/o3Eg4/https://mega.nz/#!pmxGhIoQ!MxD1qSCqWCxQ3BYG_64Nt03cAoEJ0cIzIvH95uGuFp8
mega.nz/#!9zASBLAa!mM7kIn-D8SNO3zC4x2qZ96NlPMMvmDMYSJH9iLHoyuY
mega.nz/#!pmxGhIoQ!MxD1qSCqWCxQ3BYG_64Nt03cAoEJ0cIzIvH95uGuFp8
picosong.com/ws32z/
smashcast.tv/Thassil/videos/1352361
picosong.com/wsnzG/
archive.is/Wz9Xx
strawpoll.me/13722805
hackerrank.com/domains/cpp/cpp-introduction
archive.is/vw0Au
archive.is/qdpXO

Anthony Morales
Anthony Morales

won't be able to watch the stream AGAIN
Just fucking kill me

Hunter Lewis
Hunter Lewis

He recorded the entire thing, so you get to watch all 25 hours of this when he uploads it to Hitbox/Youtube.

Charles Torres
Charles Torres

You know, I actually will.
Won't be the same as watching it live and shitposting with you fags, but it's better than nothing.

Adam Robinson
Adam Robinson

Infact, I will also go so far as to say we have like 2(soon 3) full on recordings of this game and our reactions on Thassil's Hitbox Smashcast channel.

Bentley Fisher
Bentley Fisher

Archive of old bread here: archive.is/o3Eg4

Nolan Hughes
Nolan Hughes

Already watching this years recordings, just 6 more hours until I'm "caught up", yey.

Chase Baker
Chase Baker

Did he do that new ending some user made?

Parker Harris
Parker Harris

Wait no shit, it's 12 hours

Jonathan Foster
Jonathan Foster

working today
won't get home in time to catch user-made alternate ending unless going through the dev room takes four and a half hours
pretty sure it usually only takes about three, tops

Welp, guess I'm watching the recording on this one.

Angel Jones
Angel Jones

I am comfuse; is it ogre? Are the anniversary videos uploaded on the channel this year's? Is it a fresh start/new game at 6:00 tonight?

pls respond

Sebastian Baker
Sebastian Baker

Tonight is an afterparty of sorts. We're doing the dev room, where you get a disturbing look into the mind of the author, as well as an user-made ending.

Xavier Edwards
Xavier Edwards

an user-made ending
Wait, what?

Joseph Clark
Joseph Clark

disturbing look into the mind of the author
E-Explain please

Cameron Campbell
Cameron Campbell

Apparently an user made an ending called Duet. It's that these are from. I think it'll be steamed today. Most of us haven't seen it.

The dev room has commentary from FP on each of her characters, so that should be self explanatory.

Camden Perry
Camden Perry

I've been wondering recently, what with how in depth we know of FP at this point, how would they react if a semi reputable person played it?
And they sided with Teagan?

Blake Watson
Blake Watson

All indications are that she would flip her shit.

Jeremiah Gomez
Jeremiah Gomez

DMCAs out the ass, minimum. I know FP isn't popular even on tumblr, but I wouldn't be surprised to see torches and pitchforks come out anyway just to gaslight someone. These people do this sort of shit for fun.

Brandon Jenkins
Brandon Jenkins

FP is relatively tiny on Tumblr with just above 1000 followers and she's mostly popular for her Undertale content rather than Uncommon time.
archiveofourown.org/works?utf8=✓&commit=Sort and Filter&work_search[sort_column]=hits&work_search[other_tag_names]=&work_search[query]=&work_search[language_id]=&work_search[complete]=0&pseud_id=feralphoenix&user_id=feralphoenix

Aiden Perez
Aiden Perez

never seen an Uncommon Time stream until now
everyone says one of the main reasons the game is shit is because Alto flips a shit when Teagan says reasonable shit and gives her shit for the rest of the game for it
nobody ever mentioned that Alto also blames Teagan for the world tuning failing
This infuriated me in a way I never imagined possible. The girl spent all her day babysitting four special needs children and her nights training them to play music and sing so they can reach some level of competence when they need to play a piece on which the fate of the world rests, yet we're expected to blame her for the others' failings, and the others all say Alto was the one who taught them about music. Fuck killing off Alto in Teagan quest. Death is too good for her and the retard squad. Teagan needs to save the world in a way that everyone knows it was her and have this lead to Alto and her family losing everything and going down in history as failures along with the rest of the retard squad.

Julian Peterson
Julian Peterson

Not to mention that the world tuning failed explicitly because Alto caused it to fail due to her desire to destroy the world.

Then she continued to blame Teagan anyway.

Jaxon Lopez
Jaxon Lopez

I went ahead and played said added ending. Y'all are in for a treat.

I keep forgetting about the whole Teagan is blamed for World Tuning failure just because Teagan is shit on by the game so much that it all blends together for me.

Brandon Wilson
Brandon Wilson

Today will be the last stream
Fuck, I can't believe how much this shitty game has grown on me and shitposting with you guys is such a comfy experience, I will really miss it ;_;

Nathaniel Barnes
Nathaniel Barnes

And don't forget that Alto thinks Teagan should guilt trip herself over it for the rest of her life because if a person does something wrong, they should never be forgiven for any of it.

Brody Baker
Brody Baker

Haven't watched any of the streams
Always doing something around the time it's airing
When I have free time to watch it's mid stream and I don't want to jump halfway in
Don't feel motivated to watch recordings of it since it's not the same as doing it live
Never bothered playing the game myself; just know of what Holla Forums talks about
It's been like this every year Holla Forums streams this game
How do I stop being such a fag?

Bentley Jones
Bentley Jones

user it's a fucking stream, if you can't stop being a fag to do the literal minimum you can do we can't fucking help you
God help you if you decide you want to actually play video games with us

Isaac Collins
Isaac Collins

test

Ryder Rogers
Ryder Rogers

When I have free time to watch it's mid stream and I don't want to jump halfway in

Yeah, this is the point where you're fucking up, user. Don't worry so hard about catching the entire thing from beginning to end, just jump in and have fun.

Ryder Hernandez
Ryder Hernandez

Hey everyone, streamer here.
Sorry for not making the thread, I woke up 5 minutes ago.
Stream's still on for 6pm.

Michael Williams
Michael Williams

I may have misunderstood alot but doesnt Alto blame everyone for the tuning to fail? In the Mary Sue dungeon she says it was her fault and in Ending 1 before facing the Ribsslime she shits on Teagan for splitting the party up after the fail so they couldnt "clean up their mess"?

Cooper Rogers
Cooper Rogers

I got lucky and noticed right before the thread fell off page 14. I got your back fam although I'm still gotta give you shit about it, just for fun.

Brody Bell
Brody Bell

although I'm still gotta give you shit about it, just for fun.
Please do, I deserve it for being a faggot and over-sleeping.
tfw you set your alarm for noon.
wake up at 5:15PM anyways and almost miss the stream

Evan Watson
Evan Watson

Alto blames anyone for anything as long as it isn't Alto or Arietta. Even Aubrey, the "love interest", gets shit on from such a height that she probably thought it was god himself. I'm surprised Meirin and Saki got away relatively unscathed.

Benjamin Walker
Benjamin Walker

Saki and Meirin escaped the brunt of Alto's wrath by largely being more interested in each other and mostly only interacting with Alto as yes-men. Both Teagan and Aubrey were unlucky enough to want actual relationships with her.

Luke Powell
Luke Powell

Damn you hit the snooze button almost as much as I do. I only bully because I care, y'know.

Aiden Martin
Aiden Martin

I've hit it in my sleep.
That was a bad day.

Jace Robinson
Jace Robinson

don't go to eat at the start, who do you think you are? Mark?

Kayden Sanders
Kayden Sanders

Wait, didn't Meirin have sex in the game? If she lied and was actually underage, who was the pedo who had sex with her again?

Hudson Reed
Hudson Reed

You know I feel like Alto could have been a decent character if the writer was self-aware enough. I mean, if the story didn't carter to all her shit, then she would probably feel like a selfish, childish brat that needs to grow with the help of Teagan to become a better person instead just being a selfish, childish brat that we're somehow supposed to sympathize with.

Carson Ward
Carson Ward

Those pictures make me feel, can someone give a link to that Uncommon Time version that user made?

Benjamin Brooks
Benjamin Brooks

Or maybe Alto could be a different kind of childish brat, one that isn't a author self insert most importantly. Why? Because I want to dick Alto.
This is your fault for drawing porn of her :^)

Carter Miller
Carter Miller

You're right. The arc woulda been simple. Have Alto collapse from a mistake and get isolated, not unlike Teagan. A period where being her means not being the good guy, but being with her as she does that, realises she is like that, breaks down from the realisation and pieces herself back together.

The unintended flaw with Alto is that she becomes abusive, not unlike the shit she went through. That's painfully true to life, and it's what really drives us mad about this game. So, have her world collapse in part of that. Have her be made face that. Then, have her come around from that.

same tbh please draw more

Chase Robinson
Chase Robinson

You know the thing about Uncommon Time is that there is potential for a good story in there. The characters are fairly distinct from one another, there is some care put into the setting even if it comes of as retarded and the relations between the characters are interesting. The problem is that every time we could have an interesting plot point, it fucks up completely because of character feels.

Dominic James
Dominic James

I mean "creator feels" not "character feels".

Alexander Reyes
Alexander Reyes

The modded game in full
archive.is/o/o3Eg4/https://mega.nz/#!pmxGhIoQ!MxD1qSCqWCxQ3BYG_64Nt03cAoEJ0cIzIvH95uGuFp8

One with a premade save file for a good place to start, if you wish to move on from some things. (Give Saki the medicine and then go to Tenuto Grove):
mega.nz/#!9zASBLAa!mM7kIn-D8SNO3zC4x2qZ96NlPMMvmDMYSJH9iLHoyuY

Owen Hernandez
Owen Hernandez

I can't seem to be able to download it, do you have it on some other hosting perhaps?

Leo Murphy
Leo Murphy

Is it starting soon?

Dominic Lewis
Dominic Lewis

It began 35 mins ago

Caleb Gomez
Caleb Gomez

From Yesterday's stream

Oliver Johnson
Oliver Johnson

Teagan waited in the rain for Alto
As a small kid
Just so this poor traumatised kid could have one friend in the world to talk to every day
Instead of anything else she could be doing.

Tell me she did this only because she knew what was best for Alto, FP.

Go on. Tell me.

Lincoln Young
Lincoln Young

I went ahead and played said added ending. Y'all are in for a treat.

It's reassuring to hear it didn't shit itself and crash or break somehow.

Liam Moore
Liam Moore

game crashes on the way to Tenuto

Josiah Lopez
Josiah Lopez

ARIETTA'S A NIGGER

Colton Rogers
Colton Rogers

FUCK!

Bentley Brown
Bentley Brown

I'm interested in this too. I don't know who thought it'd be a good idea to archive.is a download host link, but it certainly failed to do its job. Even another Mega link would be good enough for the time being.

Wyatt Perry
Wyatt Perry

mfw link doesn't work
FUCK

Sorry guys, can someone else come help out?

Don't take the meming to hard, modbro, it just looks a little silly

James White
James White

I sadly missed what happened with Nega-Teagan or whatever was going on, what happened exactly?

Juan Young
Juan Young

Teagan about to leave
No boats
"Would I leave even if there were any?"
Has a big personal crisis
Berates herself for tearing up the score and abandoning Alto in her confusion
"FUCK!" she says as she realises her mistake
Is running back to find our heroine and make things right

Logan Campbell
Logan Campbell

How was this involved then?

Mason Allen
Mason Allen

We don't know yet, we're getting to there

Wyatt James
Wyatt James

13233170
Same thing happened to me, I just used livestreamer to connect.

Anthony Edwards
Anthony Edwards

First we hated the game
Then we adopted Teagan
2 years
Then we adopted Aubrey
Then we adopted Alto

Julian Hernandez
Julian Hernandez

Alto and Teagan start out like they should, like nothing's been solved between them
"Nothing in here could surprise me anyway."
"You still had those bandages on when we first met."
Alto's room is fucked up
Teagan notes her dad shared the same room, implications of cyclical abuse
All the little notes about stories, study, etc.
Fear key is broken

I'm feeling it.

Alexander Richardson
Alexander Richardson

This is making me angry. Just because of how EASY it was. How easy it was to change Alto into a somewhat likable or agreeable character.

Kevin Johnson
Kevin Johnson

Got archive of the first one as well?

Austin Wilson
Austin Wilson

Honestly I liked parts of Alto even in the original. It's just that one fatal flaw of FP's turns what could have been an interesting protagonist into a disgusting wreck - a complete lack of self awareness. Alto becomes what she hates, and hurts others because of it.

But recognising that flaw? Exploring it?

We get somewhere interesting, then.

It should be hidden there in the 2nd thread somewhere. Maybe in the OP.

Carson Nelson
Carson Nelson

OFFICIAL NEW TIER LIST
Teagan = AnonAlto > Aubrey = Altair > Saki >>>>>>>>> Meirin > Feral Alto

Lucas Bell
Lucas Bell

It's not just the self awareness. There was a lot of passive aggresiveness, and it somehow always went back to her. Just look at the uncommon time with Aubrey. In this little mod, all of that has disappeared or altered and made her 150% better.

Carson Cruz
Carson Cruz

one off

Carson Cooper
Carson Cooper

The stream has actually named her AnonAlto
I love you guys sometimes.

Liam Bailey
Liam Bailey

I knew this moment could be earned, but I honestly didn't think it'd be earned as much as it was.

A+, user.

Feels more canon than canon.

Yeah, I guess I'm attributing that to lack of self awareness. Because, y'know, Feral.

Charles Russell
Charles Russell

My name is not important

Juan Hughes
Juan Hughes

This is nothing short of incredible.

William Bell
William Bell

Teagan = AnonAlto = Loli Aubrey > Aubrey > Saki
Altair >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arietta > Meirin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FeralAlto

Luke Perry
Luke Perry

Whoops.

Julian Richardson
Julian Richardson

Fair enough. It could all go under self awareness I guess. Maybe I'm just retarded.
Or this entire moment is getting the better of me

Jace Foster
Jace Foster

The Trump timeline has been a wild ride

Levi Gomez
Levi Gomez

It's getting the better of me too ;_;

Caleb Morris
Caleb Morris

did u rike it?

Easton Murphy
Easton Murphy

got home from work just in time to catch the ending credits

Watching the VOD isn't going to be the same without the chat.

Charles Jones
Charles Jones

I stopped reading chat or even typing in it. I was captivated once they went in to Uncommon Time.

Gavin Gomez
Gavin Gomez

Play it yourself, you'll have the joy of experiencing it up front.

Nathaniel Diaz
Nathaniel Diaz

Came just in time for final boss, ending and credits. It was pretty emotional, F.

What was the origional ending supposed to be?

Sebastian Taylor
Sebastian Taylor

WHAT A FUCKING RIDE THIS IS

Status
Teagan still best girl
Alto redeemed, second best girl

Oliver Powell
Oliver Powell

Alright I'm gonna need a link to the mod with the game. I have to do this.

Evan Ramirez
Evan Ramirez

I got the last hour, so was this a mod to the game or what?

Jacob Foster
Jacob Foster

mega.nz/#!pmxGhIoQ!MxD1qSCqWCxQ3BYG_64Nt03cAoEJ0cIzIvH95uGuFp8

Link for anyone interested

Nicholas Gomez
Nicholas Gomez

It's the one true ending, uncovered after two years of memetic research into saving Teagan.

Ryder Flores
Ryder Flores

ALMIGHTY
FRIENDSHIP

Luis Bell
Luis Bell

Holy shit, that was actually amazing. Thank both of you glorious bastards for doing this!

Austin Flores
Austin Flores

I still cant grasp it
REDEMPTION
THIS FUCKING MOD HAS SAVED IT
THE WOUNDS HAVE HEALED
Its done. I cant believe it.
fucking Duet user made me and quite a few others cry

Benjamin Stewart
Benjamin Stewart

I think I might.

Nathaniel Hughes
Nathaniel Hughes

Alto agreeing with her evil side but still 'overcoming' her, convincing everyone and herself to tune the world despite wanting it gone, being a passive-aggressive shit with double standards to everyone, telling Teagan she will never forgive her ever
What edgy fanfiction, huh?

Joseph Clark
Joseph Clark

Holy shit, this mod fixed the game.

Alto is a cunt for all the FP endings. She never forgives Teagan and they're not really friends. She's such a massive cunt, that it's impossible to like her.

James Moore
James Moore

porn of her :^)

Post it.

Nathaniel Phillips
Nathaniel Phillips

You just spent two hours playing some autist's fanfiction for a tumblr rpgmaker game

lmao what a bunch of fags

Duetanon here. I'm glad I got to share it his with you. Uncommon Time and all these streams have ended up meaning a lot to me. Thank you all for being here.

Bentley Hernandez
Bentley Hernandez

Streamer here, here's the mod link, I think.
Game: mega.nz/#!pmxGhIoQ!MxD1qSCqWCxQ3BYG_64Nt03cAoEJ0cIzIvH95uGuFp8
Save (Go in to town, inn, then Tenuto Spring): mega.nz/#!9zASBLAa!mM7kIn-D8SNO3zC4x2qZ96NlPMMvmDMYSJH9iLHoyuY

I'm gonna write a longer thank you post, but until then. Thank you all, so much, for joining me. This was a wonderful and fantastic ride.

Adam Price
Adam Price

You're welcome

Sebastian James
Sebastian James

FUCKING ALTO GOT REDEEMED
FUCKING AMAZING.
10/10.
BRAVO user

Adam Campbell
Adam Campbell

REDEEMED

Oliver Roberts
Oliver Roberts

You left one of the credits images out, right? The one with Alto and Teagan waving at the camera.

Julian Nguyen
Julian Nguyen

Now THAT was a ending.
We loved teagan and hated alto, every fanfic we thought of was dumping alto to the curb. Our canon end was the death end. And then here comes this fag that actually gets us to root for alto. Wew lad, 10/10
Dump all the new artwork you got made nerd.

Matthew Gomez
Matthew Gomez

You made diamonds out of ashes.

Jace Butler
Jace Butler

I want to shake your hands (No homo) and give my thanks

Landon Barnes
Landon Barnes

Dump all the new artwork you got made nerd
nerd

Don't you mean lucky nerd?

Josiah Myers
Josiah Myers

Are we still even in the same timeline? Do good things actually happen?

Where were you when Uncommon Time and Duetanon saved vidya?

Liam Ortiz
Liam Ortiz

I love you!
I like you, too.

Angel James
Angel James

Make a /vp/ thread. Board moves slow enough that an uncommon time thread would stay there for a long time.

Sage for off-topic.

Anthony Lopez
Anthony Lopez

My favourite is the shadow Teagan battle sprite. Ben Garrison outdid himself in this.

Easton Taylor
Easton Taylor

It should be hidden there in the 2nd thread somewhere. Maybe in the OP.
Nope, no such luck. Guess I'll have to keep asking around.

Jace Wright
Jace Wright

Only in a place like this could people who hated something take it from the creator, fix it, and say "we're the fanbase now", to the point that they talk about it more than the original fans did. It's like you completely fan-cucked the creator.

Jacob King
Jacob King

Were those new art assets from the game itself or did anons make those?

Jaxon Gomez
Jaxon Gomez

u r welcome, I loved nuclear.

Jaxson Moore
Jaxson Moore

fan-cucked

It's fucking true, isn't it

Lucas Parker
Lucas Parker

Thank you for making it, it relieved the years of crushing wrongness and pain that this unbearable piece of garbage had inflicted onto my mind.

Jace Jenkins
Jace Jenkins

The new stuff was drawn by the user who drew this a while ago. Found him in a drawthread. Treasure your drawfags, guys.

Brayden Rivera
Brayden Rivera

And it's an incredible feeling.
I like it how we basically said fuck it to story, and made our own happy ending a reality.

Ryan Lopez
Ryan Lopez

I THOUGHT THAT CRYING PORTRAIT LOOKED FAMILIAR

Great stuff my man. You and your crew truly are doing God's work. Shine on you beautiful bastards.

Jason Richardson
Jason Richardson

[spoiler]>Didn't take part on the original streams because it would just be annoying
Anons take it and make something good
I guess Nietzsche was right, there is no happiness without suffering.[/spoiler]

John Murphy
John Murphy

[spoiler][/spoiler]
Normally I'd tell you to fuck off back to cuckchan, but I'm in too good a mood right now. I'll let it slide this time.

Easton Reyes
Easton Reyes

Actually whats most impressive is that you didn't try to change what was already in the story and just worked with it.
This was a fun ride, its been a while since we've had one.

Bentley Price
Bentley Price

I'm going to thank you again. You really don't understand how moving that was to finally see a good conclusion to that game. I have sat through almost the entirety of every single stream. One stream lasted so long, that the sun had set and rose during the duration of it. I don't know why I did it, because it never ended well. Even with ending 5, I was nowhere near content. After two fucking years of pure hatred for this game, you have made a meaningful conclusion. Two years of pain and suffering have concluded in the most satisfying way possible. I teared up, and I never teared up over a video game before. Seriously, and I'm not shitposting here, thank you from the bottom of my heart.

no homo

Jason Mitchell
Jason Mitchell

Oh come on I just saw someone doing multi-line spoilers and I went to the FAQ.

James Adams
James Adams

this nigger has no idea how spoilers work

David Parker
David Parker

just woke up
Niggers. Has anyone uploaded a recording yet?

**Just use the double *.
It werks.**

Jose Gonzalez
Jose Gonzalez

Or not.

Welp.

Josiah Turner
Josiah Turner

These [spoiler] tags are actually quite useful because the website treats them differently from the **, so you can embed spoilers in spoilers.

I would never give someone a tip like that under normal conditions, but holy shit am I happy.

Anthony Nelson
Anthony Nelson

Thank you for everything.

Brayden Thomas
Brayden Thomas

Restraint and respect for bits of the source material which most of us would just shit on without a second thought.
Fairy segment adds a nice bit of flavour and buildup, helping to round off a finale
Teagan doesn't feel forced, but appropriate in what was a deeply personal part originally.
Teagan showing personal accountability AND NOT GETTING EATEN ALIVE FOR IT.
The fucking cello in the background
"I was a good girl." Alto says as she fights back the tears.
All of Feral's script that's still there feels like it was meant to and guilt-free.
Anger and defensiveness, but also an honest feeling under the surface.
"I should have been…sharing my strength with you, instead of despising your weakness."
Evil!Alto being delightfully wicked and using honest truths to justify her hateful self.
Making it even better when Alto stands up, refuses to stand down and when she's at the verge of victory shows honest compassion like a strong, caring girl making the most of a heavy burden

Everything about Alto and Teagan is from the based game
Nothing feels inorganic, forced or wishful
Just an ounce of self-awareness, and the willingness to explore what that means, turns two depressingly mishandled characters into honestly compelling, sympathetic girls - deeply flawed yet compellingly likeable - in a story about abuse, recovering from it and what it means to be a good friend

10/10. I'm not just saying that while lost in the moment.

I feel motivated to do my best tomorrow. And it's all thanks to you guys, especially Duetanon.

Austin King
Austin King

Oh yes I did.
Don't think the little touches were lost on me. But then again, you probably saw the chat going mad over every little thing from the breaking items to Alto's frame facing.

Give yourself a pat on the back for me, since I can't do it myself.

Easton Turner
Easton Turner

Now this begs the question. Can we save Arietta or even, God forbid, Meirin?

Jaxson Jones
Jaxson Jones

I understand now. We didn't need to make a game where Teagan was right. We needed to make a game where Alto really was right. FeralPhoenix was too blinded by her own problems to see that, and we were too blinded by our hatred of Alto so we clung to the only person who seemed sane. We, like Alto, shouldn't have asked for a lighter burden, we should have asked for broader shoulders.

Aaron Turner
Aaron Turner

I'm just glad there are people who care about this mess as much as I do.

Feral did a very good job setting up the world, but she tripped over her own bitterness and neurosis at the end. It's a shame, because even the tragedy of Alto holding onto her bitter self could have been a very good story if that was what she wanted to tell.

I had a lot of fun writing Winter Alto, though she ended up very different from the base game.

The sad thing was how easy this was to make. All I really did was swap the order of a couple of scenes. Almost all the Uncommon Time sequence is exactly the same, but it was just a wall of text with no way to relate to it without Teagan there.

Everything ends up transformed because Teagan is there. You remember what the key to the last door was in the base game?

Jacob Foster
Jacob Foster

That was a fantastic way to end the streams, but now it's time for me to sleep before midnight for once. 4 hours of sleep for the past two days really wasn't good for me.

Jack Wilson
Jack Wilson

I think Meirin's shittiness and everyone else's is coming more from Alto enabling their behavior more than anything.
I really loved they way you switched the last key for Sorority.
It was Malice, right?

Tyler Garcia
Tyler Garcia

B R A V O D U E T A N O N
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Dominic Ross
Dominic Ross

Thats nice and summed up actually.

All the little details that went into it were great. we need that recording uploaded. I wanna see the teagan fight again.

Connor Parker
Connor Parker

and we were too blinded by our hatred of Alto so we clung to the only person who seemed sane.
We, like Alto, shouldn't have asked for a lighter burden, we should have asked for broader shoulders.
Fucking this. Welp, Teagan Quest got redundant now, we have our happy ending.
Yes

Leo Adams
Leo Adams

Actually I have a real question
How much HP did Teagan Alter have

Adam Nelson
Adam Nelson

It could still be done, I mean, Teagan still wanted to explore the world, so maybe it can be just going around knowing the world

Tyler Jones
Tyler Jones

I said it once, but I'll say it again: you're a saint and you're doing God's work. I really express to you in words the sheer satisfaction and closure that ending brought, and at the end of a two-year build-up of emotion that I didn't know I needed resolved. All the little touches were good, it made it feel (more) authentic. Managing to include memes tastefully is an artform, and I didn't think I'd see the day where I could witness it out of a Holla Forums project, but you handled them well. There were little issues I'd have to replay it to point out, but overall, let me attempt to thank and congratulate you on this again. I can't really find the words for it, but this was the healing I didn't know I need.

I don't know what your future plans are, but please, make more shit in the future.

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Something else I found frustrating that was adressed was actual character development. By Ending 1, Alto has gone from bossy bitch to Queen Cunt. Teagan barely changed, only apologized to no avail. Duet made Alto confront her inner demons without becoming them, and managed to find a way to make Teagan self-aware of what few shortcomings she had she did nothing wrong but still and apologize for them in a way that made her character evolve rather than just shoehorning in "man I guess I was a shitty friend if Alto said so."

All of this has made me realize just how stagnant the characterization of all the characters is through out UT. You see a glimmer of it during Ending 1 when Alto is """dead""", but this really brought it out in spades. I'd be interested to see good endings for the other characters too.

This

Mason Jones
Mason Jones

I'd rather her get the chance to see a world that doesn't involve preferred pronouns being a normal thing. Maybe along with DuetAlto.

Grayson Morgan
Grayson Morgan

If you want a reaction form the main party, why don't you contact that friend that followed us to 8ch/v/ during somewhere around the time we discovered Uncommon Time? You know, the one that thought not liking who likes your game was silly, and some user was sperging at us because we didn't hide our HTTP Referrers?
If the main author won't see our game, at least her friend can.

Colton Robinson
Colton Robinson

Honestly, the anniversary and Christmas streams are the primary reasons as to why I come to Holla Forums.

You know, Meirin and Saki's backstories are nowhere near as explored as they should be in the game. There should be a second expansion, where their story is explained. Meirin is clearly fucked up inside even without Alto's enabling, and Saki has a genetic disease. Surely there must be a way to explain their behavior, making them likeable rather than just extant. I also feel that Aubrey deserves much more attention that FP gave her. Her story still has a lot of holes.

John Allen
John Allen

We could also ask that one girl Feral based Teagan on what she thinks if she actually bothers to show up in this thread after so long.

Adrian Sanchez
Adrian Sanchez

Thank you Thassil and Duetanon from the bottom of my heart.

I never would have thought, that a stream about some shitty tumblr RPG Maker Game on Holla Forums of all places would bring me to the verge of tears.

This was truly a marvelous experience, looking forward to next year.

Chase Lewis
Chase Lewis

The real turning point for Duet is that Teagan was there when Alto confronted her memories. I'd like to do the story of how it might have gone if it had been Aubrey or someone else instead but Teagan was the deuteragonist all along - and Saki and Meirin really don't have enough canon development to be able to do this. I wish they had had their own UT sequences because they both have the potential to be very good characters.

William Richardson
William Richardson

We still have Christmas.

Hudson Morgan
Hudson Morgan

Christmas Stream was a shitty game/fanfic fuckfest. What are we going to turn this year into, given these new developments in friendship?

Cooper Myers
Cooper Myers

We got our end, how hard would it be to unfuck the game play?

Ryan Roberts
Ryan Roberts

Harmonia isn't the entire world, right? Also, I'd imagine DuetAlto would still be looking for a way to stop the need for World Tuning, so maybe she'd go research in other countries for some hints and T accompanies her
Saki and Meirin I felt them like party filler, and I'm still mad that FP didn't go anywhere with Meirin ancestor possibly being part of the 1st World Tuning, while Aubrey, for being supposedly Alto's romantic interest, was barely explored, but at least had a background unlike kidslut and MY, MY
Do we even know her? She has to exist, but how could we contact the people Teagan was based on?

John Stewart
John Stewart

A shitty game/fanfic fuckfest but with a slightly more positive atmosphere

Luis Martin
Luis Martin

Just like in real life: it's easy to stew in your own feelings when you're by yourself, but with another person (and another point of view), it's harder. Moreover, since a lot of her animosity throughout her music box was directed at Teagan, allowing her to represent herself on the spot helps lessen the emotional/psychological burden. Hell, many times Teagan managed to take shit she wasn't involved in and put a softer spin on it.
I'll say, you certainly picked the right time to try and turn Alto's character around.

Honestly? All of them deserve music box sequences to have gone through. Alto and Aubrey were most related to the World Tuning, so that's probably why they were chosen, but Teagan, Saki, and Meirin all deserve to have more fleshed out backstories and a chance at characterization. Especially Meirin, since her ancestor probably was in the original quintet. A reunion with between those two would been a nice touch to include, and could do wonders for Meirin as a character.

Isaac Rodriguez
Isaac Rodriguez

That would take a real effort and more than just one nerd with rpgmaker. Duet has a very limited scope because I wanted to be sure I'd finish it.

Colton Ramirez
Colton Ramirez

Surely there must be a way to explain their behavior
For Saki, his main think seems to be never judging the actions of others. I want to believe this comes from his want to commit suicide; namely, he wants to be able to kill himself without anyone being affected by it; everyone merely takes it as his choice and moves on. I feel this could be an explanation for why he seems so adamant on letting others do whatever they want, even if what they want is insane or self destructive.

For Meirin, I have no idea. I never really paid much attention to her because I just didn't like her character.

Jason Hernandez
Jason Hernandez

mfw this ending not only fully developed the main characters but developed the character of everyone watching as well

Ayden Miller
Ayden Miller

God forbid, Meirin?

Meirin becomes a lot less of a cunt after movement 1. After then any time she's a cunt is pretty much because Alto lead the charge. In fact, Meirin is probably one of the kindest people to Teagan post rejoining. I guess because FP says she has a crush on her, which I guess is something else that could be explored.

Julian Lee
Julian Lee

I figured it might be a undertaking that might go no where. The limited scope works really well, they way the rest of the gameplay flashes by after the climax doesn't seem rushed, it actually looks really natural. The big issue was taken care of so nothing can stop them now.

The gameplay part was just something I wanted to throw out there to see what kind of work load and how hard it would be.

Aaron Miller
Aaron Miller

I find myself agreeing with everything you said. I suppose you have some luck in that the redrafts can be easier than the first. Makes me appreciate the effort Feral did put in, but as you said, her flaws tripped herself up.

Even so, things like the item swap and evil!Alto changing more or less had to be that way if we wanted them done right. Like I said, man, the mod earned its good parts.

We first found Uncommon Time out of a vidya-spurred curiosity, no? To explore the underbelly that was RPGmaker/tumblr gamedev? Why not find some other games to dissect, then come back to Duet to wash the taste out of our mouths?
I'm glad you did. If another user wants to take up the challenge, I wish them good luck.

Alexander Allen
Alexander Allen

Hey anons, streamer here.
Thank you. Thank you all so, so much for joining me on this unbelievably fantastic ride. Playing through Uncommon Time with you all, ever since that first stream 2 years ago, has always had a special place in my heart. These past few days have only cemented what a fun and happy memory Uncommon Time will be.

I appreciate all of you, but I want to give special thanks to three people in particular:
To LoliOasis, even though you ended up being a massive faggot, this all would not have been possible if you hadn't found and streamed Uncommon Time. Really, we all owe you for introducing this to us.

To TeaganBestGirl, thanks for keeping Uncommon Time fresh in the minds of anons with the winter streams. I've unfortunately never managed to make one, but I'm definitely gonna try this year. Best of luck with them.

To DuetAnon, you managed to do the impossible: make Alto likeable. You even did it without changing too much of the canon source material. Hell, through Nega-Teagan you also showed how Teagan was abusive towards Alto without really shitting on Teagan. You are a truly masterful writer, and I apologize for dismissing your mod when you asked me about it the first time. Uncommon Time: Duet is going to be shown in every anniversary to come, I promise you that.

This has been a wonderful and amazing few days, and I look forward to doing it all over again with you all at the three year anniversary on August 11, 2018.

Jace Myers
Jace Myers

See you next time, faggot.

Luke Collins
Luke Collins

See you next year faggot, let this game become one of the sacred treasures passed down through the ages.

James Thomas
James Thomas

Thanks streamerfag, your streams always remind me I haven't beaten unmodded Uncommon Time time yet and this year you motivated me enough to get back into it.

Gavin Sanchez
Gavin Sanchez

Don't forget to upload the stream. I missed it and I want to watch, even if it's not live.

Caleb Jenkins
Caleb Jenkins

picosong.com/ws32z/
A little teaser for the general tone of Tone Deaf.

Easton Hernandez
Easton Hernandez

Here you go: smashcast.tv/Thassil/videos/1352361
All the other streams are there to, and the download links for the vanilla game and mod are in the description.

Dylan Collins
Dylan Collins

You too, my man. Thanks for picking up the torch and running with it. God knows these threads would've died out entirely without your efforts. Because of you, oldfags and newfags alike have closure.
Hopefully life circumstances let me tune in again next year, but even if not, I still want to thank you for your service. If I can, I look forward to seeing you next year.

Aaron Richardson
Aaron Richardson

I really express to you in words the sheer satisfaction and closure that ending brought, and at the end of a two-year build-up of emotion that I didn't know I needed resolved. All the little touches were good, it made it feel (more) authentic.
This.
This was such a healing stream. It's like all anger and bitterness caused by Uncommon Time over the past two years just suddenly vanished.
Thanks DuetAnon and Thassil for this great ride.

Christian Mitchell
Christian Mitchell

This stream was beautiful. After the shitty ending 2, the duet ending redeemed the second half of the game. We are making this game great again, ironically enough.

Sebastian Ward
Sebastian Ward

great again
I know its a meme, but that would imply UT was great at some point.

Connor Barnes
Connor Barnes

I'd say we love this game more than feral does. She's forgotten it before we have.
Good on you, Duet user, you've done something magical.
One of the current ideas for Tone Deaf is to make it so it's structured so that the lore of U.T is spread into it in such a way that newfags can pick it up. Thus we can spread the word of Teagan to many.

Aaron Baker
Aaron Baker

I'm amazed that Holla Forums of all places has an unironic discussion about fixing what is quite literally the worst game we could think of while retaining all of its charmingly abhorrent lore.

FP put a tremendous amount of effort into creating the world and characters while somehow not going anywhere with it. It's like she expected their physical appearance, sexual orientation, and gender to speak more for the character than the actual characters.

Teagan doesn't really need a Music Box sequence, and especially after what Duetanon provided us with. She is so brutally honest about everything, there really isn't much to be explored. Outside the conflict with her whore brother, Teagan's and Alto's story are intertwined.

Meirin needs something much more refined than what little FP has shared. All that's known is that she's a whore, but you don't know why she's a whore. Even her physical appearance implies internal crisis, but FP doesn't even bother to use this as a device and doesn't even give a hint of conflict until the fucking Dev Room. The way she's presented her characters makes you think they're diverse for the sake of diversity rather than diverse because of their chaotic lives.

Asher White
Asher White

Casual hanger-on of these threads and the game. I know most of what happens in original UT, but not the nitty-gritty. Will I be okay just hopping into Duet, or should I play through OG UT to get full appreciation for what Duet changes/fixes?

Also, about how long are these games start to finish?

Jaxson Campbell
Jaxson Campbell

To fully appreciate Duet, you kind of have to go experience the normal game in its fullest I'd say. Otherwise a lot of what makes Duet so good will be completely lost on you.

Angel Williams
Angel Williams

Same fagging, but I should've clearified you can play the Duet version, as it all it seems to do is fix the experience curve so you don't have to grind for an extra 10 hours.

Just don't do the Duet ending until you've seen the rest.

Dylan Myers
Dylan Myers

Isn't the other big feature of Duet that the exp curve was rebalanced so that it's less of a chore to get through? I'd say just play through the normal routes in Duet first, to get the story with a minimal amount of self-torment, and then play the actual Duet route afterwards.

Lucas Perez
Lucas Perez

The way she's presented her characters makes you think they're diverse for the sake of diversity rather than diverse because of their chaotic lives.

That's the kicker isn't it? Even Saki's got an interesting reason to look like a trap but his vanity isn't revealed in the game, only in some obscure tumblr posts.

Yeah, Duet cuts down the time it takes to grind through the game a lot. You should be the right level to beat a boss on your first walk through the area which saves LITERALLY HOURS of weakly slapping at bosses while you're underlevelled and using cheatengine to give yourself infinite HP. Also you get save points before bosses now.

John Brooks
John Brooks

Oh, so Duet ending is essentially tacked onto an otherwise fairly normal UT experience? Like an extra ending F?

Can I just experience the entirety of original UT with the modified Duet exe, then do the Duet content when finished with that? That's basically the gist of what I'm asking.

Nolan Jackson
Nolan Jackson

The touted "15-25 hours of playtime/content" was mostly 2/3rd's of the game being a fucking grind, Tumblr not even once.

Parker Ortiz
Parker Ortiz

Duet is another ending designed to be cathartic after sitting through the other shit endings. It works best if you are familiar with the rest of the story, because it's basically one long fixing of everything that went wrong in the original telling, so to get the full appeal, you have to see everything that went wrong.

Sebastian Reed
Sebastian Reed

The only thing Duet alters, besides the extra ending, is reducing the experience curve so you don't have to spend hours grinding.

Which is even worse by the fact, from what I hear, everything in UT is an HP sponge, so grinding is slow to make it extra tedious.

Charles Taylor
Charles Taylor

Okay, excellent. That's exactly what I needed to know. Is there any obvious tells for the Duet ending? I'd like to avoid it and finish original content 100% before stepping foot in user-made territory.

Levi Perez
Levi Perez

Thank duetanon, it was incredible surprise to see such a well done mod, I always doubted that anyone would be dedicated to make what is essentially "Teagans quest", but you did it, and you smashed it ouf of the park.

Thanks dude, it was a wild ride, I missed a lot of it, but I turned up every day.

Elijah Watson
Elijah Watson

You have to to a different area then you would in the story, and a big text box will pop up saying WARNING if you try to go there anyway.

Asher Taylor
Asher Taylor

I think I finally understand why I hate this game so much. It wasn't the mindnumbing grind or even how political it tried to be, but there was absolutely no movement at all. None of the character stories except maybe for Aubrey developed.

Feral really botched it.

Not at all. You will have a vastly different experience if you play Duet first rather than play through the game and then Duet. You don't really begin to hate Alto until all the events that happen after the Teagan fight because then she is fully revealed. Our hatred for Alto has been hardening for two years and Duet completely reversed all of that in a couple hours. If you just play UT and get the Duet ending first time, it will not even be in the same realm of satisfaction.

James Cruz
James Cruz

I kind of want to see how Feral feels about the Duet ending. I imagine she'd fucking hate it, but I wonder if it would help her get even a fraction of self-awareness.

Cooper Ramirez
Cooper Ramirez

I wanna know just how exactly she feels about everything about her "fanbase".

Jason Long
Jason Long

You've seen what to expect from her from the game. Hasn't she given you enough disappointment and frustration?

Parker Wood
Parker Wood

Hopefully she or one of her friends will leave an asshurt comment like in Pittura.

Jacob Green
Jacob Green

Apologies for the shitty drawing, I just felt I needed to post something in celebration of Duetanon rescuing Alto and Teagan from their hell at last

Jose Clark
Jose Clark

Why not find some other games to dissect, then come back to Duet to wash the taste out of our mouths?

FP has made a few other games, now that you mention it

Jace Young
Jace Young

Sorry for making Teagan look like a goblin when she shouted 'fuck'.

it's cute.

Jaxson Watson
Jaxson Watson

Hey, I only did the one. All you missed was some godawful fanfics and the RWBY equivalent of Uncommon time but without any of the potential for a better game. Still, thank you very much for doing this! I wasn't there for your original stream, but I'm glad that I was able to be here with you faggots to witness this. Seeing this ride out with all of you truly has been an amazing experience, and I hope to see you all in four months for the Winter edition at smashcast.tv/Teaganbestgirl! Shooting for December 11, but I'll make a thread around then anyway where I'll update if something comes up.

Only the VN, but it's a "kinetic" VN (ie: no choices, just story). One one hand it's the perfect genre for her but on the other it's boring as sin.

William Cooper
William Cooper

Evil!Alto being delightfully wicked and using honest truths to justify her hateful self.
What the fuck am I reading? What happened? Teagan walked Alto through a Persona 4 shadow confrontation?

Brandon Miller
Brandon Miller

We love goblin-Teagan all the same drawfag, don't worry too much about it. But if you insist, you can go ahead and start working on the 10th anniversary HD Edition now :^)

Sounds about right up our alley As long as you narrate.

Easton Evans
Easton Evans

Better than nothing. It wasn't that bad anyway, the face wasn't great but it wasn't that bad. Thanks for your work!

Hopefully December won't be a fucking landslide of bullshit to do and it's feasible to watch. See you then, I hope.

Lincoln Allen
Lincoln Allen

tfw watching the the middle segment of the stream I missed where Teagan fights Teagan
Boss Teagan has been redesigned
she covered in the keys Alto is stabbed with
Nuclear midi
the genuinely good writing, character development, and resolution
Holy FUCKING SHIT. I only caught the beginning and the end of the mod, but I did not expect this level of quality in the middle. It's so brilliant, it's absolutely unreal. I can't even believe this is from Uncommon Time. BRAVO.

Bentley Morgan
Bentley Morgan

Only the VN
Not true, she's made five other RPG maker games, most are blissfully short except for one. But the one we should all be really interested in?

The Sullen Boku Girls Alliance
A meta RPG maker game that stars all the previous protags of FP's previous games including Alto

Adrian Howard
Adrian Howard

Made one RPG, and one VN
Working on another RPG that ain't out yet
Somehow thinks she has enough material for a grand crossover RPG

No seriously, where do I get the shit FeralPhoenix is smoking? Jesus lord above.

Caleb Gomez
Caleb Gomez

Enough to try, apparently, and it's supposed to be released this year

Jayden Hughes
Jayden Hughes

sage for doublepost

Jacob Gonzalez
Jacob Gonzalez

All those "Project"s
This reeks of asset reuse and "oy vey, we can't let these very time-intensive drawings and character profiles go to waste, goy!" I look forward to seeing how much of a dumpster fire it'll be.

Brayden Parker
Brayden Parker

I wonder who would be the cuntiest of them all?
I have a feeling someone is worse than Alto

Mason Sanchez
Mason Sanchez

Age 18. Fifth oldest
Age 17. Fourth (or maybe third) oldest.
Age 15. The third (or maybe fourth) oldest.
Age 16. The youngest.

Fuck I hate word problems.

Brayden Lee
Brayden Lee

if you have ever tried to go inside Feral or Tumblr's mindset, she probably means the mentality.

Evan Long
Evan Long

5/6 characters descriptions with "Don't make her angry", or some variation thereof.
wew. Also what the fuck is going on with the ages here. Are there supposed to be more characters in this shitshow, or did Feral just not understand how numbers work?

Landon King
Landon King

Forgot to actually read the profiles.
Don't make her angry.
Don't make her angry.
You probably shouldn't maker her angry.
Be prepared for a scalding lecture if you make her angry.
Definitely never make her angry.
Wow, what a diverse and interesting case of very unique characters! I'm sure that every single fucking one is definitely not a self insert for the author with a bad temper and an agenda.
I should really get into making RPG Maker games and/or drawing. If this fucking hack idiot can do it, surely a dumbfuck like me can too.

Nicholas Ramirez
Nicholas Ramirez

Being a hack idiot is actually a prerequisite for any kind of success that doesn't involve working hard.

Samuel Robinson
Samuel Robinson

I mean this is an author who kind of got her start from rewriting Yggdra Union's plot to remove basically all the 'war is bad' and lessons about death. Removing defining character growth moments to instead keep them flat and uninteresting, or to just make them wanna bone their hated enemy as lovers instead.

Levi Rivera
Levi Rivera

I should really get into making RPG Maker games and/or drawing. If this fucking hack idiot can do it, surely a dumbfuck like me can too.

There should be more user RPG maker games. Duet honestly convinced me of this. I should get back on that horse too.

Andrew Sanders
Andrew Sanders

Here lies my hopes and dreams. May they rest in peace.

Right, so you'd think with a bar set so low it's inside the Earth's mantle, making something worth half a damn by comparison would be a piece of cake.

Xavier Johnson
Xavier Johnson

don't make her angry, or she'll never let you forget it

Adam Smith
Adam Smith

I missed the first few hours of every stream and the archives are taking forever to download, someone remind me about the happenings leading up to the save file posted, where Saki wakes up from his AIDS coma.

Nathan Powell
Nathan Powell

I'm betting on Kouro, this shit reeks of character exaggeration and it bluntly states that she is an unfriendly person. Otherwise she'll be the game's Teagan and Alto will claim the prize of ultimate cunt.

Henry Hill
Henry Hill

saw majority of stream this time
had to leave for work right near the end
missed YOU'RE FUCKING DONE
missed everything else from that part on

Landon Torres
Landon Torres

That reminds me, someone needs to shop a picture of that clock with "SHIT ON TEAGAN" and Alto saying "Look what time it is" or however the meme goes.

Robert Green
Robert Green

They really do shit on brass instruments a lot in this game.

Caleb Harris
Caleb Harris

World Tuning Fails
Nuclear Teagan
Alto and Wormslut fug
Meirin is recruited again
Party goes to get Saki's cure in forest and meets the faeries.

Gabriel Price
Gabriel Price

Might want to add the video name and time stamps for the user to enjoy.

Blake Scott
Blake Scott

Subaru = Saki Alto
Kouro = Teagan Alto
Hours = Fairy Alto
Honoka = Aubrey Alto
Clara = Meirin Alto

Alto = Non Canon Alto
I'm calling it.

Nathan Scott
Nathan Scott

Wait, non-canon to FP's Alto or our Alto?

Daniel King
Daniel King

Our Alto is canon now!

Nicholas Martinez
Nicholas Martinez

It's not Canon Alto. You know, the one that was an actual character instead of a bland stangated self insert.

Liam Smith
Liam Smith

Thanks.

No need, I've sat through full streams before. I just didn't remember the sequence of events.

Jose Jones
Jose Jones

(tfw accidentally fuck up my posts)

"Teagan Alto" is probably an accurate description of Kouro in Refinery canon. Whether it will carry over to Sullen Boku Girls I have no idea.

Fuck I hate word problems.

I think I solved it! The age (18, 16, etc.) refers to the age they are written as in their respective story; the fifth oldest, fourth oldest, etc. refers to when they were created in relation to each other. This is why Tomomi can both be 19 and somehow the second oldest and Clara can be the youngest even though storyline-wise Madison's younger than her.

Nathan Lee
Nathan Lee

I see her drawing skills have only marginally improved. Still got those ugly line quality going on.

Thomas Ortiz
Thomas Ortiz

You serious?

Michael Williams
Michael Williams

Is she getting worse? Because the 1st ones look better to me

Zachary Jones
Zachary Jones

The down syndrome faces still fucking get me

Jose Nguyen
Jose Nguyen

She's going backwards.

Hudson Harris
Hudson Harris

wew

Brandon Nelson
Brandon Nelson

I figured out what bothers me so much about those.

Their heads look like pumpkins, like Jack-o-Lanterns

Justin Perez
Justin Perez

All four pictures of Teagan look like she was trying to draw a different character entirely and the less said about poor Aubrey's stretched out face the better.

Camden Scott
Camden Scott

you mad cunts actually made the mod
actually played through it
I wasn't there to see it live
FUCK

Jordan Bailey
Jordan Bailey

So what happened in 2016 that made everyone fat?

Nolan Roberts
Nolan Roberts

You missed something magical, user. The video is up there, but obviously it's not the same.

Christopher Scott
Christopher Scott

About three hours in. The battle system, now that I've unlocked 4 party members, buffs/debuffs, and AoE attacks, is finally starting to become something that resembles fun.

The story and character interaction is pretty poop so far. Mostly exposition dumps about the world tuning, PMSing all over the fucking place, and hi-fucking-larious RPGmaker manzai routine between Alto and Teagan. I can already see why Saki is considered a yes-man non-character, as well. I've seen him refute and repudiate Teagan for bringing up logical arguments about Alto's recruitment and some of the dumb shit she says with "lmao just trust her she knows best" no less than 3 times, despite Alto having said or done absolutely nothing thus far to engender such trust.

So far nothing truly outrageous, but I'm already getting beyond tired of the parties constant bickering and melodrama in the incessant cutscenes. Can't go 5 fucking screens without getting a 5 minute cutscene of PMS and everyone backbiting each other.

Luis Scott
Luis Scott

Damn you know, I really thought she had gotten even a teeny tiny bit better, but I think maybe my judgement was off.

Angel Gray
Angel Gray

Rate my fix Holla Forums

Samuel Taylor
Samuel Taylor

Can't go 5 fucking screens without getting a 5 minute cutscene of PMS and everyone backbiting each other.

The full Uncommon Time experience hasn't settled in yet. Wait for it to ripen to 2-hour cutscenes and overt bullying of specific party members.

Benjamin Gomez
Benjamin Gomez

sorry, this is a coping mechanism

Levi Sanchez
Levi Sanchez

wait a minute
That mask

Christian Reyes
Christian Reyes

Hold up
Is that THE Lieutenant Quattro?

Bentley Gonzalez
Bentley Gonzalez

I missed it
FUCK

Thassil's gonna upload the recordings right? Also, we are doing a winter stream this year?

Josiah Flores
Josiah Flores

The final segment should already be up.

Dylan Lopez
Dylan Lopez

Huh, great. Thanks user. For some reason I just couldn't see em on mobile.

Owen Cook
Owen Cook

That ending
These feels
I want more, but is such a thing even possible?
Could the game ever continue on from this point or would it just get bogged down?
At this point, I want to have all the characters fully explored, but the Duet ending is just so good that I fear continuing on from it would just ruin the whole thing.

Luke Garcia
Luke Garcia

Bravura a cute

Kevin Hughes
Kevin Hughes

No. It's Jean Descole from Professor Layton. Has a p good theme.

Mason Scott
Mason Scott

GODDAMN I WANNA GET A TITFUCK FROM THAT SEMEN DEMON

Grayson Turner
Grayson Turner

A CUTE

Angel Green
Angel Green

Better to enjoy this as it is, user, I think.

Duet only worked out so well in the context of a poorly written base game and long-running personal investments, be it fondness or hatred, in the two characters it focuses on.

It just really feels like the closure I didn't know I ever wanted, and I wouldn't mind if this is all we ever get.

Jaxson Hughes
Jaxson Hughes

2015 is a marginal improvement over 2014. Then the game came out and she wasn't having to draw as much anymore, and you can see that she basically got lazy and let her skills atrophy and go to shit.

Xavier Price
Xavier Price

Duet only worked out so well in the context of a long-running personal investments
This is probably the truth.
People loved Teagan and hated Alto. That much emotional investment in the two is probably the biggest driving factor for why that ending feels so good.
As far as I can tell, when it comes to the other party members, no one feels anything for them except for when it is in context of Alto/Teagan.

Any important story one could possibly write beyond the end was already told in the credits cutscene, both wordlessly and concisely.

Grayson Campbell
Grayson Campbell

You did good, lad.

Seeing the ideas being thrown around for Teagan Quest, I was expecting that the eventual game released with Holla Forums's mark would be just as much of an embarrassing revenge fantasy as the original. Yours has grace, in both senses of the word.

Carson Martin
Carson Martin

I know this is late as fuck, but thanks for streaming Uncommon Time for all 2 years and sorry for missing the last few streams due to working nights. I swear that I will take a week off from work next year to watch all of the streams and I will get music done for the game to replace all the public domain shit in the original and possibly for Duet, should Duetanon want it. Also, I will work on Tone Deaf as well.

Josiah Campbell
Josiah Campbell

You know it might be a little late for this as the stream ended a long time ago, but this stream made me realize some very important things, so I ask you to listen for a bit.

There is no denying that this was probably one of the most beautiful thing that happened on Holla Forums, but just now I realized how great it truly is.

Not only did we fix Uncommon Time, we have also proven ourselves to be better than FP in a way. Now I understand that Teagan Quest was really an unnecessary thing from the beginning and would come out as an edgy revenge plot instead of what we've got. Uncommon Time's message was that you should hold to your anger and hatred no matter what, and by making that game we would just prove the creator right. Instead this goes completely against the true meaning of the game instead proving that forgiveness is a way to go. This story is not only a story of forgiveness between Alto and Teagan, but also of our forgiveness towards Alto. This ending made us forgive Alto and finally understand the characters that were presented in the story.

Furthermore, I feel as if Teagan Quest would come out as something from not understanding of Teagan's character. There are a lot of things we can say about Teagan, there are a lot of things that we know about her, and we see that she was treated unfairly by the story. But she wasn't treated unfairly by the story just because Alto was a bitch in the original UT, she was treated badly by the story for one more reason; neither did we nor FP saw one of her most important character traits. We didn't see that most of all, Teagan is loyal, that she tries her best to be a great friend and doesn't want to abandon Alto. Most importantly, we didn't see (along with the creator) that Teagan LOVES Alto as a friend.

You know I believe that characters have a kind of will of their own, not literally but in a way. If you write characters differently than they would really act, you're going against the will of the character and it will come out as fake and unpleasant. Watching this ending with you made me realize the true reason why Uncommon Time was such a big pile of shit. The true reason was, that the creator abused the characters and didn't let them do what they truly wanted. FP once said in the developer room that she didn't do certain things because "Alto" didn't like them, but I think that the truth is that she is completely and utterly wrong. I feel that FP did not listen to her characters at all, that she ignored what they wanted for her own personal agenda. It feels as if Alto and Teagan wanted to forgive each other as characters, the story should be logically leading to that, but she ignored that fact to fuel her own damaging view of the world. She did not think that you should forgive, therefore her characters would not be able of forgiveness. It feels disgusting in a way, because in the end she hurt the characters she created by doing that, and we would have done the same with Teagan's Quest. There were anons who noticed that, noticed that there was potential for Alto to be a good character, but Duetanon really was the man who saw it the most clearly. Duetanon listened to those characters and for first time allowed them to do what they want and not what FP wants. The effect is what we have now, the most heartwarming and cathartic ending to a video game we've seen in a while.

Anons, this has ended far better than any of us could have expected. We not only gave a big middle finger to FP, we not only fixed the game and proved it's meaning wrong, we did not only learn something about forgiveness but most importantly: We FREED those characters Or rather Duetanon did, allowed them to do what they wanted and finally gave them a happy ending.

Even small things like that make me regain hope in humanity. It makes me feel that there truly is yet hope for man.

BRAVO DUETANON
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Julian Powell
Julian Powell

Every time this stream happens, nearly everyone would agree Alto would be an okay character if FP didn't write them. But Alto is FP's self insert after all, so it's only natural whenever something dramatic or heavy happens to them all her negative traits or FP's true nature comes out in full force.
All it took was someone who wasn't FP to write a competent character. We're or rather duetanon an outsider, so we could see the kinks and failures in the machine because we have a fresh outlook on it all. FP is a narcissist, and obviously had a lot of emotional investment in this game. If it meant having to break down the game to understand why it went this way, it would mean breaking down herself in the process.

Jonathan Stewart
Jonathan Stewart

Jewish math.

Hunter Thomas
Hunter Thomas

This story is not only a story of forgiveness between Alto and Teagan, but also of our forgiveness towards Alto. This ending made us forgive Alto and finally understand the characters that were presented in the story.
It took me until someone in the thread mentioned that for me to really understand it. It's funny, Bravura even says that holding onto your hatred is like drinking poison, but I had just assumed she was calling out FeralAlto; I never even considered the same could apply to us as the player.

Duet is just too good. I don't think anyone will be able to come up with a better scenario than this. Part of my is ecstatic it happened, but saddened that it's over.

Uncommon Time 2 when?

Austin Lewis
Austin Lewis

The true reason was, that the creator abused the characters and didn't let them do what they truly wanted.

The characters were square pegs being forced into round holes. This didn't make them new and surprising, but instead shaved off important parts of them and flattened them out into caricatures of themselves.

Perhaps it was that that filled the base game with so much unease; the forced tumblr politics felt like mere decoration and were largely easy to ignore. The underlying cruelty and hatred, and the way characters would twist themselves in knots in the service of said hatred to the detriment of the story, was the huge problem.

What's so brilliant about Duetanon's mod is that it's not coming from a place of frustration and hatred, but a place of love and compassion. Instead of taking an obvious trainwreck of a story and poking fun at it for being such a trainwreck, it is picking up the pieces and lovingly rebuilding them into something beautiful, something the story could have and deserved to be in the first place.

Justin Jones
Justin Jones

Another beautiful thing I think people forget is that even back then when we first discovered Uncommon Time the group of us latched onto this small project for a reason. Deep down we all knew there was something good in this simple mishandled RPG Maker game and Duetanon was the one to bring out the good in it. What another user said might be a good idea; we should look for other small and seemingly unknown projects like this and try to bring out the best in it.

Asher Perry
Asher Perry

Duetanon's attention to detail even extended to the freeware music from the game and where it's used in the mod. Most streams had the music played over by Youtube, but while the game's soundtrack is inconsistent and cobbled together, FP did make an attempt to have certain pieces of music only be attached to certain characters. Teagan has a "theme", Alto has a "theme," there's even a "theme" for their friendship in the base game.

And Duetanon used all of it correctly.

Connor Nguyen
Connor Nguyen

What video on Thassil's channel is the Duet playthrough? I've never sat through a whole playthrough before but I'd like to now that I know there's a good payoff.

James Ramirez
James Ramirez

It's the most recent video. Just click the first one on his stream.

Jordan Ward
Jordan Ward

Thank you user

Ayden Hernandez
Ayden Hernandez

smashcast.tv/Thassil/videos/1352361
First 45 mins are Dev Room and the rest is Duet I think.

Jordan Rogers
Jordan Rogers

yt-dl gives a 404, and the download link needs auth.

Cameron Rivera
Cameron Rivera

Is it ever even said WHY they hate brass instruments so much?

Thomas Nelson
Thomas Nelson

Brass Instruments are Phallic symbols or something like that when we talked about it on the streams.

Jordan Garcia
Jordan Garcia

Feral hates brass.

Elijah Carter
Elijah Carter

pretty sure she's holding grudges from high school, something about the brass players in her class couldn't manage their dynamics

Robert Peterson
Robert Peterson

I can understand that somewhat. Trumpet players who are either just learning or only have a small amount of experience are not good. I spent many days just sitting in band while the instructor just worked on making the trumpets and drums better.

Jace Scott
Jace Scott

Percussionist here, can confirm, we sound like shit until we don't.

Daniel Cooper
Daniel Cooper

picosong.com/wsnzG/
The Many / Congregation (WIP)
(Aubrey's regular theme / battle theme respectively with the latter starting at 2:33)

I know this is most likely the last thread for now, but I guess I should post what I have been up to for Tone Deaf. I took an old song from the first attempt and made it a lot better for Tone Deaf with some guidance. Song's still not done, and I need to fuck with the mixing some more since I had to normalize it prior to posting due to the clipping in Congregation and add a section from the old song that I skipped over on purpose.

Jose Richardson
Jose Richardson

Missed yesterday's stream
I missed the redemption
but more importantly I missed the
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Benjamin Perry
Benjamin Perry

You missed the wribstsdemption

Liam Morris
Liam Morris

Guess I'll just have to be there for all future anniversaries and playthroughs.

Christian Myers
Christian Myers

Rate this anim?

Aiden Perez
Aiden Perez

Hylics/10

Elijah Nelson
Elijah Nelson

This is 6 fps whereas that is 3. Still, I kind of want to play that now.

Adam Baker
Adam Baker

I feel like it's a bit heavy on the treble cleft, not enough deep tones to balance it out except towards the end.

Otherwise, definitely a marked improvement.

Leo Howard
Leo Howard

It's nothing special. In terms of Quirky artsy RPGmaker games, Space Funeral is better.

Evan Mitchell
Evan Mitchell

Teagan looks a bit mismatched with the game around her.
Early days and all.

Jaxon Johnson
Jaxon Johnson

Best part was when standing started to play. That was always the scene that stood out the most with us, really well done.
Now I want a pic of anons carrying alto while cheering while teagan looks on proudly.
*optional addons
saki in back fashing anons with varied expressions
merin :3ing with anons
aubry getting poked by anons mumbling to themselves about worms

Joseph Martinez
Joseph Martinez

This was a bitch to make

Jaxon Rodriguez
Jaxon Rodriguez

Archive.is or Screencap
Pick one.

William Gray
William Gray

Screencap?
What, did someone on the tumblr side respond to us?

Eli Kelly
Eli Kelly

Screen cap. I wanna see.

Adam Walker
Adam Walker

Screencap.

David Butler
David Butler

archive, and a real link to the page in question

Carson Foster
Carson Foster

Duetanon, I want to applaud you again. Not only did you manage to redeem Alto of all fucking characters, but you did so in a way that doesn't contradict the pre-established lore or characterization of anyone involved. Moreover, you showed enough restraint not to go full "purge these degenerates" and actually made them likable. I am absolutely floored; you are living proof of the old adage that "Any story concept can be good if it's told well enough."

Also, requesting a Teagan version of pic related

Samuel Evans
Samuel Evans

Screencap with the archive on the image.

Cameron Cooper
Cameron Cooper

I meant the thread, Holla Forums has a feature on the bottom of the page that lets us screenshot an entire thread and download it onto our computers. It might take a few seconds due to images and shit.
archive.is/Wz9Xx

Camden Garcia
Camden Garcia

Holla Forums has a feature
Yeah, the thing is that it may or may not work

Caleb Wright
Caleb Wright

Seriously, well done duet user. Wonder how FP will react. Hope it's kek worthy.

Cooper Allen
Cooper Allen

Yeah, also Im a retard who uses mobile and it doesn't work there 🅱ro

Adrian Bennett
Adrian Bennett

Hol up, is that Full Frontal :^)
Fug

Nathaniel Scott
Nathaniel Scott

And for TeaganBestGirl, I hope for you to use this for one of the threads.

Ayden Flores
Ayden Flores

Fug, noticed an error.

Josiah Ramirez
Josiah Ramirez

I sincerely believe the reason all the Teagan Quests up until now failed/never finished was precisley because of what said. Even if we didnt understand it, we somehow felt that a revenge story simply wouldnt work fucking memes messing with the reality again.
All I really ever wanted for these years was that apology scene for Alto to forgive Tea. That was all that was necessary to avoid these wounds that wouldnt heal until yesterday.
I used to hate FP and I still hate SuperAutist, but after the redemption, dunno. Kinda feel sorry for her. It is obvious that Alto was her selfinsert, so the inabillity to forgive is likely a trait Feral posesses. I wonder if she had a falling out with her bff and waited for them to apologize but they never did so Feral lost all empathy or words words words you know what I am trying to say. I believe SJW and Tumblrinas used to be human beans once.

Anyway, thanks again for Thassil and Duetanon made me cry like a bitch. And for 0bb7db to perfectly describe what I was thinking about the entire day.

Jason Sanchez
Jason Sanchez

Kinda feel sorry for her. It is obvious that Alto was her selfinsert, so the inabillity to forgive is likely a trait Feral posesses.
So I'm not the only one

Hudson Phillips
Hudson Phillips

VODFag reporting in.

That was truly beautiful. DuetAnon, I salute you. I salute you for the way you fixed the characters, fixed what went wrong in Uncommon Time, and for fixing the anons in this thread. The hate that brewed over Alto has washed away, and everything has been set right. A weight has lifted off everyone's shoulders, and it's all thanks to you.

You crafted a story that was so much better than I think anyone expected. Salvaged what lay there beneath the surface, beneath FeralPhoenix. Teagan, Alto, Meirin, Saki, Aubrey. Us. Everyone is happy now, thanks to you.

Take my most cheerful image. Godspeed, DuetAnon. Godspeed.

Easton Smith
Easton Smith

Uncommon time is far from fixed, there's still plenty of problems with it. user fixed hardest bit, which is Alto, and make the other characters a bit better. Still great job fixing Alto.

Cooper Sanchez
Cooper Sanchez

Y'know, by moving the first uncommon time segment from the start of the third movement to the climax of the second movement, there is now more room to fit in supplemental characterization for Saki, Meirin, and the Many.

Elijah King
Elijah King

the duet ending

Jaxon Evans
Jaxon Evans

And so it begins yet again.

We can save them, Holla Forums. We can save them all.

Angel Walker
Angel Walker

Back when it was being worked on, I spent a decent amount of time thinking about where TQ would have to go story-wise, and there were several good ideas, but none that ever really felt like "Yes, that's the one." Revenge was pointless, and not in keeping with Teagan's character, so it had to be a story about Teagan redeeming herself and saving the world, assuming it could still be saved. Assuming Alto wasn't already dead, there was no point in seeking her out to kill her. However, I'll admit that it never crossed my mind to to save her, either.

Like you said, Alto is a self-insert of FP, and therefore has the same character flaws without being aware of them. She's an SJW through and through. Likewise, we saw ourselves reflected in Teagan. Despite being blunt and aggressive, Holla Forums is practical, and generally does wish for peace, even if people don't seem to get that. The tension between her and Alto was a natural sort of conflict that would arise from sending Tumblr and Holla Forums on a world-saving mission together. It's a mirror of the real world in a way FP never meant for it to be. Everyone on our side is anxious and feels like the world is on the brink of catastrophe, and the opposition is trying to destroy everything that exists for no reason other than "muh feelings."

In the real world, the answer to the problem is clear. We're way past the point where a whole lot of people have to die. Not just enemies, but countrymen, friends, and even family, who are doing their damnedest to destroy civilization just so they can feel good about themselves. They chose that willingly, and there's no saving them, because the alternative is our own death. It's been so long since I felt like those sorts of people could be reasoned with that I forgot there was a time I wanted to save them, too. There are cases of SJWs being saved from their cult. They're rarer than one would hope, but it does happen. If nothing else, I'm glad that Duet went that way, because it was a reminder that maybe some of them can still be saved. Not all of them, and not most of them, but maybe some of them.

Blake Foster
Blake Foster

Well, The Many did get a segment via bonus dungeons. It's arguably the best thing in UT barring Duet. It just goes in the motion that you should never forget what you did ever even if all that is left in the well is poison.

Noah Peterson
Noah Peterson

It's been so long since I felt like those sorts of people could be reasoned with that I forgot there was a time I wanted to save them, too.

This hit a lot closer to home than I'm comfortable with.

Gavin Hill
Gavin Hill

Those are great.
Alto jumping through a window
Heh.

I always imagined the double suicide notes having "ur a faget" since they're addresed to Teagan.

I download webpages with "Scrapbook" addon. Retains everything in a folder that can be moved around easily.
Firefox has a built in screenshot page function, too.

Levi Robinson
Levi Robinson

I gave up trying to match the art style, so I did something else. Hope you like it. We need more Uncommon Time OC.

Thanks.

Andrew Campbell
Andrew Campbell

favorite parts except for the redemption where ofcourse those feel items
Fear - broken in half
Despair - Mirror was empty instead of showing things
Envy - Orginal: "Hurts if mishandled" Duet: Alto takes it out of Tea - "Has Teagans blood on it. Why did you bring this with you?"
Hatred - fucking cracked
Malice - "Fits Alto perfectly", didnt exist in the first place.

In other words we live in ending 4 and are staring to the open sea?

Joshua Wilson
Joshua Wilson

You joke but for the longest time I was thinking about redoing some of them.

It was fun doing it.

Here it is colored like I did in the mod.

David Wright
David Wright

I think you honestly did everything perfectly. EVERYTHING was just so right and in place.

Aiden Barnes
Aiden Barnes

Oh shit, forgot a crucial feature.

Nicholas Thomas
Nicholas Thomas

Wait a moment, I have another possible reason as to why the characters might have hated brass. Didn't a lot of larger wind instruments used to sound especially horrible to begin with in older times?

Joshua Price
Joshua Price

I have a request. Draw Alto holding TOBLERONE with the Uncommon Time logo rewitten as TOBLERONE TIME while she screams "IT HURTS MY HANDS."

TOBLEROOOOOOOOOOONE

Lincoln Morris
Lincoln Morris

The Many's backstory was handled best up to a point, but the payoff was unsatisfactory. Rather than the Many actually learning to stand on their own feet and work through their dependency and depression, they just get lectured at by Alto and told to never forgive themselves, which is…just going to make the depression worse in the long run.

That's an easy enough fix, especially in a storyline where Teagan and Alto work through their issues, thus freeing up Alto to help Aubrey work through theirs.

A bigger missed opportunity is that Aubrey is the best connection to the past that the party has. Aubrey lived through it, and unlike the Arietta and Altair that appear in the spirit realm, Aubrey is not a copy of a long-dead person dwelling in a space that responds and changes according to the contents of people's hearts. There are probably things about the past that Aubrey knows, and knows more accurately, than Arietta and Altair, or even the fairies who spent a long time avoiding humanity. And some of the things Aubrey might know could be hells of useful to the party.

As for Meirin and Saki, in canon Alto picks up on the fact that Saki's struggling with something on her own. The game, of course, fumbled this really bad ("I want to live" "Okay go to bed"), but it would be a very easy fix. Just have Alto realize that Saki's problem is bad enough that he shouldn't have to deal with it on his own or lean on only Meirin for it, and confront him about it. And Meirin gradually gets closer to Teagan towards the end of the game and has a crush on her. Explore the crush more than just as an awkward tsundere joke, and have Teagan pick up that Meirin is unhappy with how things are with Saki and offer to help.

Hell, maybe Meirin and Saki might benefit from going through an Uncommon Time sequence together.

Basically, the connections do exist in the base game, but the game more or less says "this is here, now back to Alto's important feelings" and so misses almost every opportunity to make the connections actually functional. And thus, they never really come together as a team, so their victory against the slime thing at the end rings false.

Colton Reyes
Colton Reyes

unfuck Alto in Aubrey's UT and improve their relationship in general
improve Arietta's UT
make Saki and Meirin actual characters
Meirin's family issues probably need an UT, Saki might work if his AIDS and nihilism are explored in-game.
REMOVE PRONOUN remove pronoun

Nathan Gray
Nathan Gray

It's not working through Wine. Any other anons able to help, or have some version of this that'll work on GNU+Linux?

Cameron James
Cameron James

I do have a small request to Duetanon
Change the last slide from "Unoffical Ending" to "TRUE ENDING"
oh and the one cg where D.Alto and Tea are hugging? Tea needs to cry more, both were affected by the events. But this is just a taste thing DO change the title though, TRUE ENDING!

Grayson Sullivan
Grayson Sullivan

What would we need to edit the game? I wonder if we can work on the gameplay issues next.

Jose Young
Jose Young

Needs to switch to some less hectic walking animation when she's slowing down.

Juan Baker
Juan Baker

alright I am going insane. Its 2 am here, my balcony door is open and I hear fucking sounds similar to the celo tuning in the main menu obviously I know its not an instrument, but still: I better save myself By that I mean hide under my blanket**

Hunter Watson
Hunter Watson

To be honest, I almost made that mistake myself. The earliest draft had Winter Alto being completely destroyed by Alto's super attack. It might have been cathartic to see Alto removed that way but in the end, she's not some monster or villain to be defeated; she's a frightened and angry girl lashing out in the only way she can. She always was, even in the endings where we hated her. That's what makes the whole thing so tragic.

The Diamond Dragon Breaker Rhasphodia is still in even though it doesn't kill her because I absolutely love G Gundam and that whole ending is shonen as fuck anyway.

I couldn't. I can't pretend like the rest of Uncommon Time isn't real because Duet only worked due to the emotional investment people already had in these characters. It was Feral who built all of that and I don't want to replace or diminish her work. There's more than one reason it's called Duet.

Zachary Hughes
Zachary Hughes

We migh>>13238619
I couldn't. I can't pretend like the rest of Uncommon Time isn't real because Duet only worked due to the emotional investment people already had in these characters. It was Feral who built all of that and I don't want to replace or diminish her work.
You got the right idea Duetanon. I'm concerned though, because your ending concluded two years of raw hatred. It was a great end, a perfect one actually, but it was so good that I just don't know if I'd like the next stream as much without another emotional shock. It's like going back to Ritalin and Adderall after snorting cocaine once. Maybe we should make Teagan the actual worst girl in another mod.

There's more than one reason it's called Duet.
D E E P E S T L O R E

Jack Young
Jack Young

I'd really hope that if FeralPheonix ever plays Duet, she actually sees the light. I'd hope she realizes what kind of person she is (someone unable to forgive, someone with a lust for revenge), and change that about herself.
I don't hate Feral, and I don't want to just mindlessly shit on her or her game. I pity her. She's clearly someone who's emotionally damaged, and I want her to be saved. To be redeemed. It's like said, she's just a frightened girl who's lashing out.
If Teagan really was an old friend of Feral, I'd hope that one day Feral can reconcile with her.

Maybe I'm just a sap for happy endings. I want things to work out for everyone, even people as broken as Feral and Alto.

Elijah Gutierrez
Elijah Gutierrez

make Teagan the worst girl

Kevin Myers
Kevin Myers

concluded two years of raw hatred
The Duet ending still had full impact even on me, and I only first watched and was first exposed to Uncommon Time from these recent streams.

Ryan Powell
Ryan Powell

I don't know, I think it could work.
Like, make it more about the history between Alto/Teagan. If, in canon, Teagan really was abusive towards Alto, I think it would be pretty neat to see that played out. See/shown, not told like FP did.
Duet did it to an extent, with Nega-Teagan's pre-battle talk. But, I'd like it to see it explored more. Maybe have it actually set in the past where we see smalto and tiny-teagan interacting.

John Clark
John Clark

But in canon Teagan was abusive :^). She disagreed with Alto, and said mean things.

Elijah Johnson
Elijah Johnson

Addendum: I think it could work, but it wouldn't be the same Teagan.

Jordan Cooper
Jordan Cooper

I think it could be the same Teagan, or at least close to her. Here's an example:
She's protective of Alto, right? Make her way, way too over-protective. Like "you're not allowed to do/say/think anything without running it by me, because you're too fucked up to actually survive by yourself."
Teagan removing all of Alto's agency and forcing her to rely on Teagan would be emotionally abusive. Not as abusive as what her parents did to her, of course, but it'd still be abusive.

Connor Evans
Connor Evans

Ah, I understand. Well-intentioned but ultimately harmful.

Jaxson Torres
Jaxson Torres

Holy shit, Duetanon, what a ride. That Nuclear midi.

Everything I can think to say has been said by other anons, so - thank you for that closure.

I don't even feel like we need to stream anymore, but my feelings might change when FP's new "game" comes out. At the same time, a small part of me hopes news of this gets back to her. The smallest possibility that she reconsiders her assumptions…is extremely unlikely to happen. But fuck, I can always hope.

Ayden Bennett
Ayden Bennett

Exactly.
I think that was how FP wanted to portray Teagan in the first place, but really failed in showing the "ultimately harmful" part of it. The Teagan we got was always looking out for Alto and always doing what was actually best for her, instead of what Teagan thinks is best for her.

Jayden Morales
Jayden Morales

I don't even know if that was what she wanted. Teagan was meant to be a strawman of everything she hated, and she has said that Teagan is meant to be a bad person a lot. It wouldn't surprise me if Teagan was just meant to be her taking out impotent rage about some perceived wrong.

Anthony Smith
Anthony Smith

How many times was she forceful about it either, beyond tearing up the world tuning sheet? The most I recall is her nagging, and that's perhaps an overstatement, which is something completely different.

Aiden Carter
Aiden Carter

I don't wanna change story shit, maybe make the gameplay better.

Connor Green
Connor Green

It's not so much that it doesn't have an impact on first-time viewers, my concern is that it was so good, that we'll have more anons like who feel that future streams are now unnecessary. We watched it to hate Alto and FP, but now we love the first and pity the latter. Even though the meaning of the streams has changed, I'm one for tradition and I will continue to watch because it celebrates our little community, but I don't know how many anons feel the need to cherish what culture we do have.

This concern has made me focused much more intensely on programming for the purpose of recreating Uncommon Time in C++ so that interest doesn't die. It's severely autistic to say, but my concerns are that real. I love this shithole too much.

Caleb Howard
Caleb Howard

Can you do any Java?

Tyler Martin
Tyler Martin

Did anyone upload Stream 5 elsewhere? The download link still requires auth.

William Butler
William Butler

Winter streamfag here. You know, after reading what some people are saying, even I'm kind of doubting the necessity of another round. I try to diversify with other bad games and storytime, but still, what's the point if the main event has been resolved this well?

strawpoll.me/13722805

Henry Wright
Henry Wright

Fuck, thats a good question.
I think we should still do it. We enjoyed this ending so much because its been stewing for 2 years. If you take away this ending you still have a TERRIBLE GAME.
And you know, thats worth laughing at.

Owen Edwards
Owen Edwards

I think the shitposting is its own reward.

Sebastian Perez
Sebastian Perez

No, but I can learn.

it's already happening
For the love of God, let this continue. Duetanon, I thank you, but I hope in quelling our rage you didn't snuff out our passion too.

Wyatt Anderson
Wyatt Anderson

I'd watch it again, the vanilla game is so shit on so many levels that it will remain enjoyable, even now I don't share the sympathy or pity many user's have for FP. Although Alto is FP self insert, that doesn't mean that because Alto was redeemed FP deserves my sympathy, Alto have genuine shit life, I'm willing to bet FP problems are quite minuscule, even compared to some shit user's go through.
SO yes, I would very much enjoy more streams of UT, to laugh and rage at the shit, and feel at the duet mod.

Ayden Moore
Ayden Moore

If you saw the animation earlier I am from the Tone Deaf group, we are establishing ourselves right now. Tone Deaf will give another reason for the game to be streamed. Want a discord invite?

Kayden Myers
Kayden Myers

FP's a SJW and a kike. I haven't suspected for a moment that she had real problems.

Tyler Peterson
Tyler Peterson

Codefag here. If you want a hand learning, I'd be happy to help.

I think that some ideas are now unnecessary, but not really the tradition. First, UT isn't going to be a hatewatch any more so much as a part of tradition. I don't feel a need for a Teagan's Quest, or a grand revamp, but I know I want to keep this game in memory, and so talk about it with much as something to chill with one of my favourite boards during some time off. I just wanna shoot the shit with you guys, and let some other anons see this shit for themselves. Holla Forums is a place to talk vidya, first and foremost. Games we hate, games we like. For me, that feeling's not going anywhere with UT.

Second, like was said earlier, maybe we can find some new games to explore? What if there's another game not to far off of what we found here? The winter stream would be a good chance to see them. And then we round it out with Uncommon Time plus the Duet mod to end it on a high note. I know I'd fucking enjoy it. You never thought someone would be suggesting that two years ago, did you?

Jonathan Lopez
Jonathan Lopez

Duet masterfully brought out that canon Teagan was in fact showing some pretty worrying signs. The problem with Feral's portrayal is that Teagan's controlling behaviour and thought process, while present, is overshadowed by her genuinely solid advice (which is so basic and common sense that Alto looks like the asshole for ignoring it most of the time), kind demeanor, and by Alto and her yesmen increasingly ganging up on, shouting at, dismissing the opinions of, and even physically threatening or beating her.

The problem wasn't that Teagan did nothing wrong, the problem was the game decided she deserved to be thrown under the bus for it while simultaneously ignoring or even applauding Alto's equal or greater sins.

I think streams going forward are sparkling with possibility; since the meaning of the game changed so much as a result of this round, future rounds have potential to bring about more and more positive developments now that people aren't gathering only to hate on and laugh at an obscure indie game.

Jacob Rodriguez
Jacob Rodriguez

even thinking of denying us the chance to find other little miracles of garbage we never knew we needed
even THINKING there may be anons here who don't want to play video games with Ruby all day
even THINKING we won't want to wash out that bad taste by reminding of us this wholesome, undeniable proof that even now there is hope for man

You better be coming to town, Santa Claus

Joshua James
Joshua James

Second, like was said earlier, maybe we can find some new games to explore? What if there's another game not to far off of what we found here?
I still want to play fucking videogames with Ruby. I don't even like RWBY, but that scene was too cute. And the way anons got blue balled was amazing too.

Luke Gutierrez
Luke Gutierrez

Definitely do it again. I liked that you had all sorts of games and all the fun we had (even that Sonic/MLP game was admirable as a work of bait and the guy who made it will never know that it actually trolled us. A true artist.)

Hell, a big part of the reason I made Duet was that I was worried a lack of OC would cause these streams to fizzle out. And I'm already working on something else, if I can get it finished for December.

You never thought someone would be suggesting that two years ago, did you?

Hard to believe it all started because we wanted to laugh at some tumblr pronouns. What a time to be alive.

James Long
James Long

Our Drawfags draw better sketches of Alto in a few short hours than FP can do for the full CGs she puts in her game.

Wyatt Morgan
Wyatt Morgan

Thanks to Duet mod we can now enjoy Alto lewds guilt free

Thomas Torres
Thomas Torres

Alright, Winter stream is a go*! I'm more than happy to oblige but I just wanted to be sure that's what the people wanted.

* also heads up that I may be moving next month and I have no idea what my internet situation will be, so there's a chance that there won't be a stream after all

Jayden Bailey
Jayden Bailey

I would say yes, but my life is a bit chaotic right now so I know I will be inconsistent. Thanks for the offer, though.

Could you give suggestions for resources? I've almost finished reading through Stroustrup's textbook and I'm making my way through Structures and Interpretation of Computer Programs, but where do I go from there?

I like your optimism and I hope you're right.

You made me forget my worries for an instant. Perfect timing. Thank you and your work on the mod, resident drawfag.

Gavin Kelly
Gavin Kelly

So shall it be! Dear-bought those lewds shall be accounted, and yet shall be well-bought. For the price could be no other. Thus even as Eru spoke to us shall beauty not before conceived be brought into Eä, and evil yet be good to have been.
t. Manwe Súlimo

Jonathan Wilson
Jonathan Wilson

Alto lewds

Post them.

Tyler Wright
Tyler Wright

I don't think she's actually been drawn nekkid yet. There's Teagan and Saki, but that's all.

Carter Nguyen
Carter Nguyen

Teagan

Post it.

Sebastian Barnes
Sebastian Barnes

tfw you want to play through this and see it first hand
tfw you hate turn based rpgs
tfw you've never used CheatEngine and don't know how to get infinite life to at least make combat tolerable
I just wanted to see the trainwreck with my own eyes.

Jacob Rogers
Jacob Rogers

:^) This is from when we didn't know.

Jack Murphy
Jack Murphy

But in all seriousness, here you go. It's the only lewd I know of.

Brody Reed
Brody Reed

Could you give suggestions for resources? I've almost finished reading through Stroustrup's textbook and I'm making my way through Structures and Interpretation of Computer Programs, but where do I go from there?
I'm mostly self taught, to be honest, the only textbook I bothered with was Head First Java when starting out. Maybe that makes me bad, but what I learned from C++ I learned from doing challenges on sites like Hackerrank, which has some challenge tutorials if you're just starting out and some proper challenges if you're not. Practice makes perfect, followed by hours of looking, thinking, searching for solutions and asking questions at any place that'll help you.

If you just wanna make a game, look up practice examples on youtube. You can find some instances of people making pong in Unity, UE4 or even just raw C++ like vid related (probably don't actually use vid related)

even the lewds have FP's sameface face structure
even the meme pic does

Kevin Anderson
Kevin Anderson

Forgetting the link
hackerrank.com/domains/cpp/cpp-introduction

Jayden Sanchez
Jayden Sanchez

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE ARTIST ON WHILE MAKING THIS?
AND IS IT THE SAME SHIT FP'S ON?

Lincoln Barnes
Lincoln Barnes

In light of duet, there needs to be more.

Brayden Thompson
Brayden Thompson

tfw you've never used CheatEngine and don't know how to get infinite life to at least make combat tolerable
Here you go, a how-to guide to summoning the dark lord.

Isaac Russell
Isaac Russell

Teagan is pure.

Michael Scott
Michael Scott

Thank you my dude.

Probably jenkem from all the shitposting that was going on those days.

Alto-Teagan yuri doujin when? No seriously, we need to get /u/ on this. They have the resources.

Isaiah Rodriguez
Isaiah Rodriguez

Honestly Teagan would be a better love interest for Duet!Alto than Worms.

Gavin Campbell
Gavin Campbell

Sweet, thanks. I'll give this a shot right now.

Logan Morales
Logan Morales

meant for

Mason Butler
Mason Butler

GODDAMNIT YOU PERVERTED BASTARDS JUST HAVE TO GO SULLY SUCH A PURE GIRL FOR MUH DICK
FUCKING DEGENERACY AND YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER
FAPPING WILL NEVER MAKE YOU HAPPY

Adam Lewis
Adam Lewis

If Worms was given as much character development as Teagan and Alto were in Duet, then maybe I could understand the relationship.

It's more to see how Feral would react. I'm pretty much desensitized to porn now.

Noah Jenkins
Noah Jenkins

Best Bro-Sis.

Carter Foster
Carter Foster

ywn play vidya with Teagan
Did Feral say she didn't like vidya or somesuch? I find it hard to believe anyone would draw that conclusion from Teagan ingame.
Then again, she could just think of it as fake pussy bullshit.

Chase Nelson
Chase Nelson

to see how Feral would react
I doubt that'd get much of a reaction, and definitely not more than Duet. Feral's likely already steaming away.

Oliver Allen
Oliver Allen

It was something Feral came up with for a high school AU setting. Teagan's first (and last) exposure to video games was her younger brother getting her to play Dragon Age 2.

Thomas Lee
Thomas Lee

Teagan's first (and last) exposure to video games was her younger brother getting her to play Dragon Age 2.

Damn… That's sad.

Nathaniel Long
Nathaniel Long

How the fuck would one redeem Tales of Xillia 2: RWBY Edition Vale of Darkness?

Nolan Flores
Nolan Flores

Yeah, she thinks all video games are like that now, according to Feral. Well, aside from Undertale, of course. :^)

Anthony Powell
Anthony Powell

Teagan's first (and last) exposure to video games was her younger brother getting her to play Dragon Age 2
No fucking way. This is canon?

Bentley Smith
Bentley Smith

It's written by Feral, so I would say "Yes"

Hudson Bell
Hudson Bell

I feel I should add in that according to Feral, Teagan doesn't hate it for being a bad game, but because she got triggered super-hard after finding out about the in-game whorehouse. Which is fucking stupid and makes her sound batshit insane when she's supposed to be the one psychologically stable member of the group, so I choose to disregard that part of the write-up.

Benjamin Green
Benjamin Green

I'm vaguely remembering something about Saki getting Meirin and Alto to wear Frisk and Chara-based sweaters while playing Undertale.

Jayden Gray
Jayden Gray

Isn't the reason as to why she abstains from sex is because of her whore brother? Or is the only significance of that conflict is that it's made the estranged?

Colton Morgan
Colton Morgan

webm related
Who knows. It's probably part of her character according to Feral, and probably because she grew up around shittons of hypersexual whores according to anons.

Jayden Stewart
Jayden Stewart

The canon reason she abstains from sex is that she finds the mere thought of it icky and horrifying, and apparently that's why she objects to her brother being a whore (and not, you know, that she's protective by nature and would absolutely not like anyone she cares about entering a job where rape is a real possibility.)

Feral tends to make a bigger deal about how much Teagan's aversion to sex colors her thoughts and actions than Teagan actually shows in-game, tbh. Apparently Teagan's supposed to be always triggered and horrified by it, but her reactions around Meirin and co. tends to be more "go have fun, leave me out of it."

Connor White
Connor White

We really dodged a bullet with this game having been released before Undertale came out, didn't we? Given that Feral got most of her current fanbase from her fanfics, I wouldn't be surprised if most of that crossover game she's making is just memes and cancer.

Parker Cruz
Parker Cruz

Considering every single book in the Folio library on the fiction floor is a thinly-veiled reference to other RPGMaker games she played or webcomics she read…imagine if one of them had been Undertale.

Lucas Perez
Lucas Perez

The way I see it, nothing should significantly change about the Uncommon Time stream itself. UT still deserves to be streamed, but now Duet might deserve to be appended henceforth. However, remember that UT isn't the only shitty game that we've encountered on this ride together. This is the same event that led us to Anonymous Agony. Now that we have some degree of closure on UT, consider that it could be the permanent cornerstone of the event, but also act as an overture for the event as a whole, and new games could come after it every time.

Uncommon Time could be the ceremonial opening to Holla Forums's bi-yearly expedition stream, where we adventure into the wild world of shitty, weird, and otherwise unexplored internet vidya gaemz together.

Carter Kelly
Carter Kelly

I'm still voting for streaming FP's other works, if only so we can have the proper knowledge for when her crossover game comes out

Justin Clark
Justin Clark

They're high priority, no doubt. Hopefully she'll be the gift that keeps on giving. But games take a long time to make, and at two games a year, we'll be playing them faster than a single person can make them. Once we hit that point, other games will have to fill the spot while we wait for more.

Julian Baker
Julian Baker

To my knowledge of the 5 games that FP has listed:
3 are translations for games that are relatively short compared to UT
Uncommon Time
Refinery(finished this time I think?)
Her new game isn't out.

Charles Green
Charles Green

You will never show Teagan what good video games are.

Carson Sanders
Carson Sanders

We already redeemed Alto, showing Teagan a good time with video games isn't out of the question.
>ywn make her wear a girly dress and pat her head while she blushes

John Reed
John Reed

The true reason was, that the creator abused the characters and didn't let them do what they truly wanted.
This reminds me, at some point in time, Feral had mentioned that Teagan was the only character she could write easily. Every other character, Feral had to write and rewrite in order to get things to how they are now. Really makes me wonder what those original lines were.

I feel that FP did not listen to her characters at all, that she ignored what they wanted for her own personal agenda.
I think you really hit the nail on the head here. FP was adamant on writing a story where "the abuser isn't forgiven by the abused," she said so several times when talking about Uncommon Time. Makes me wonder if initially Alto DID forgive Teagan at the tower, only to have it rewritten to fit FP's twisted morals.

It was something Feral came up with for a high school AU setting. Teagan's first (and last) exposure to video games was her younger brother getting her to play Dragon Age 2.
I think it was also mentioned that Teagan sometimes enjoys games the require physical movement like DDR. (I believe it was also mentioned that Teagan would never like someone who would continuously play a game they hate and then talk about it on the internet.)

Dylan Collins
Dylan Collins

Here's her list of gaymes:
Refinery
Visual novel that's 2-3 hours long
Uncommon Time
A classic
The Sullen Boku Girls Alliance
Her crossover game, guaranteed cancer
Tragic Muppets
Drama/Horror RPG maker shit, one hour long
The Goal of Eternity
Fantasy RPG, 12 hours long
I wished for
A drama/slice of life 'game' that's a whooping 15-30 minutes long
Gathering the magic
Adventure puzzle 'game' that's 5-10 minutes long
Rainy Drop
Fantasy RPG that's 45-75 minutes long

All in all we could clear all of them in the same time it would take to finish UT with Duet

Thomas Roberts
Thomas Roberts

ddr
I'd rather play pump it up with her. I always felt the layout was much more in tune to human balance.

Zachary Cooper
Zachary Cooper

Does anyone have a link to that edited UT version that makes it less grindy again?

The old link seems to be dead.

Anthony Allen
Anthony Allen

I feel like there should be a statute of limitations on how long after publication an author's notes on their work should be considered canon if they're involved in social media. Black Hermione, Gay Dumbledore, Undertale Meirin.

Writing this made me look up my favorite author as a kid and KA Applegate's twitter is full of mediocre anti-Trump retweets, but she apparently wrote a book where the main character was named Kek, so that's kind of funny

Austin Ramirez
Austin Ramirez

(I believe it was also mentioned that Teagan would never like someone who would continuously play a game they hate and then talk about it on the internet.)
I can't tell if that's a crack at us or not, given that FP is likely too far up her own ass to know details about us.
boku girls alliance
Alto didn't seem particularly tomboyish to me.

Josiah Ross
Josiah Ross

Everything past SBGA is just stuff she's translated from nip though. I'm curious to see if she added anything extra though

Lincoln Phillips
Lincoln Phillips

Wait what? Then where the hell are these bitches come from?

Aiden Scott
Aiden Scott

It's absolutely a crack at us. FP's blind spot is herself, she seems insightful enough outside that.

Ryan Cox
Ryan Cox

It probably is.
Harry Potter was my gateway into reading in elementary school
Rowling later proves to be a massive cunt.
I'll refrain from liking authors until they are too dead to fuck it up.

Jayden Russell
Jayden Russell

My guess is that they're from random ideas she has in various stages of super WiP, judging by their source mostly being "Project: whatever"

Jose Allen
Jose Allen

In my experience, they usually fuck it up in their own books easily enough.

Jeremiah Davis
Jeremiah Davis

decide to check Feral's translated works to see if she used characters from those in her crossover game
notice that all of them are by the same person and maybe one other
Seriously, check for yourself. I don't know who this "RE:Sell" person is, but these translations are certainly deserving of further investigation

Parker Wood
Parker Wood

Would she have translated them incorrectly?

Liam Harris
Liam Harris

Half remembering from what I'm pretty sure was one of the original streams but going by how badly the translations were for Teagan's limit breaks in the game's files, then I wouldn't be surprised.

Connor Young
Connor Young

What, how bad are her translations there?

Zachary Stewart
Zachary Stewart

I was worried for a moment I wouldn't make it before auto-sage, but here you go.

It's nice to know anons are still big softies after all these years.

Eli Price
Eli Price

Alto is so embarassed to be lifted up and praised, as if she legitimately doesn't think she deserves such praise

Elijah Perez
Elijah Perez

Nice.

Andrew Green
Andrew Green

Beautiful, user.

I honestly want to send Duet to Feral to see what she thinks of it (Even though she will probably hate it). Has anyone tried that yet?

Joseph Richardson
Joseph Richardson

that's great shit

Dylan Ward
Dylan Ward

My guess is that she'll ignore it. If she doesn't, I don't believe she'd have quite the same reaction as she did to Pittura Infamante, but I reckon she'll interpret Duet as missing the point of Uncommon Time; that being, as one user has already pointed out, that the abused does not forgive the abuser. Unless she's matured these past two years, she'll refuse to believe that FeralAlto is anything but a victim.

I hope we're not planning on saving Feral now. 3DPD is always a lost cause

Jace Davis
Jace Davis

inb4 Duet triggers Feral's Catharsis and a changes her for the better .

Zachary Bell
Zachary Bell

Can't save someone who doesn't want to be saved. As much as a fairytale ending as the "Chan Uncommon Time," fanbase and FeralPhoenix somehow coming together would be.

Alexander Perez
Alexander Perez

13240350
Turned out pretty good, though.

Jordan Smith
Jordan Smith

Unless she's matured these past two years
After looking through her tumblr to figure out how best to approach her, I gotta say, she has not matured in the least, and I doubt she'd even play it as much as find the fact that it exists to be an insult. My conclusion is that she is still a selfish person that loves to be a victim. I can still offer her a link anyways just for the sake of it, but I agree that it is far more likely she'll just dismiss the thing entirely.

Jack Carter
Jack Carter

tfw accidentally deletes own post

Asher James
Asher James

13240350
Looks great, user.

William Hughes
William Hughes

Prior attempt didn't look FP enough so here's attempt number two

Easton Rodriguez
Easton Rodriguez

Damn user!

This is looks great.

It looks too good to be convincing though.

Dominic Jones
Dominic Jones

I feel like you should have kept Teagan slightly reaching towards Alto.

And perhaps not looking FP enough was a good thing.

Zachary Richardson
Zachary Richardson

Ooh, good point, I should go fix Teagan

it still doesn't look FP enough I require more derp eyes

Ethan Allen
Ethan Allen

There we go now Teagan isn't just standing awkwardly

Adrian Davis
Adrian Davis

Yeah, Feral uses Teagan's sex-aversion as the reason she fights with her brother and doesn't want to go whoring with the others but in light of the rest of her character it's very hard to see that as her motivation. When Meirin tries to drag her off to the brothel the first time she doesn't go "That's fucking disgusting you degenerate", she says: "Don't cause trouble for the escorts."

In the end she treats Tristan almost the same way as she treats Alto, and while her sex-aversion probably made her fight with him more bitter it can't have been her motivation.

It's beautiful.

Leo Russell
Leo Russell

Rather than sending it to Feral, I can't help but wonder how things might turn out if we put it up in the comments section to Pittura Infamante. I know at least one person in the comments section there has admitted to going back and rereading the story when they're feeling down, so it might be a good way to show Duet off to other people who were unsatisfied with Uncommon Time's canon endings.

Noah Morris
Noah Morris

I think it was also mentioned that Teagan sometimes enjoys games the require physical movement like DDR. (I believe it was also mentioned that Teagan would never like someone who would continuously play a game they hate and then talk about it on the internet.)

Nah, those are from something slightly different:

original Uncommon Time streams happen
during course of discussion, anons discuss what Teagan's favorite type of videogame might be
anons settle on rhythm games
<a couple months later, one of FP's friends writes a fanfic about what the UT cast's favorite videogames are
surprise surprise, Teagan likes rhythm games
<Saki likes RPGMaker games
<Alto asks if Saki would ever play a bad game deliberately just to laugh at it
<"lol no way, I don't hate myself that much"

Mason Cooper
Mason Cooper

Thank you for correcting me, user.

put it up in the comments section to Pittura Infamante
I did it and I cannot undo it. Hopefully others find Duet as good as we did, though I'm not sure if anyone will ever find the post in the first place. Not like there's many people (if any) looking for Uncommon Time fanfics.

Christopher Sullivan
Christopher Sullivan

Huh. After reading this I really think that FP won't be able to appreciate Duet. She must be so far up her victim complex's ass that she doesn't see us as anything more than a bunch of assholes eho enjoy laughing at her. Who knows how offended she'll manage to get over Duet. (or atleast, what she precives Duet to be.)

Justin Mitchell
Justin Mitchell

Most of the time I just lurk on these threads and on the streams, I wasn't even able to catch up on the last stream yesterday but I just finished to watch it and man I wasn't expecting that but I am glad it turned this way. Before that mod I though Alto was just a spiteful idiot but after that I realised that was most the author doing, its incredible how such a small change in making Alto and Teagan make up and become the true friends they were meant to be can change a entire perspective and make the game take a turn to the best. Thank you duetanon for making this mod and making a good thing from this game.

Landon Rogers
Landon Rogers

Quality work, user.

Wyatt Adams
Wyatt Adams

Makes me wonder if initially Alto DID forgive Teagan at the tower, only to have it rewritten to fit FP's twisted morals.
That would've been it. That was literally the only thing that Feral had to do for me to accept Alto. UT would've been just wasted potential instead of wounds that would never heal until 2 day ago.

and just one digit of for perfection. I really am diggin how proud and happy T looks there.

Now that some anons were talking about translations and such: The Fuck is Feral? Just a weeb or an actual nip?

Gavin Fisher
Gavin Fisher

To be fair, Uncommon Time has less than 1,000 downloads even after 2 years and the popularity boost that was her Undertale fics.

Nathan Cruz
Nathan Cruz

Weeb with a minor in moon runes

Ryder Sullivan
Ryder Sullivan

A Jewish weeb who desperately wants to be Japanese and has even learned the language.

Ryan Edwards
Ryan Edwards

While also being very concerned about cultural appropriation of people who aren't Japanese

Adam Martinez
Adam Martinez

Bretty gud but with the positioning, I'm getting too many Loss vibes to take it seriously. Also, needs at least three unnecessary signatures.

David Davis
David Davis

I wonder if this was Ferals cry for help all along

Adam King
Adam King

she made a video game about her own abuse so absurd that a bunch of anonymous fags on an obscure image board pick it up to make fun of it only for them to understand that she needs help two years later
That's some pretty advanced 4D chess.

Andrew Sullivan
Andrew Sullivan

bretty gub
thats deep man

Ill ask one more time before the thread dies. If I wanted to fix up gameplay what would be the best program to edit it in, and would any anons be interested? Should it even be done?

Kayden Wilson
Kayden Wilson

If I wanted to fix up gameplay what would be the best program to edit it in
Depends on what you mean by fix up gameplay and what you mean by edit.

If you mean edit as in not remake the entire thing from scratch, you're looking for RPGmaker. Mind you, RPG maker has its limits as a base thing, though with enough scripting and creativity, you can pretty much do anything (just look at Shut Up and Jam Gaiden. Damn thing never even went to the battle screen. All "ights were actually on a map, the actual combat system was completely run by scripts and never used the built in combat system.)

Cooper Morris
Cooper Morris

One more pic before the end of thread

this is making me appreciate FP's art more

Anthony Hughes
Anthony Hughes

The lackluster RPG combat fits in with the rest of the game. In a good RPG the combat mechanics mesh with the theme and environment of the game, so making a version with better mechanics would pretty much necessitate starting from scratch to make sure they are interconnected properly.

Besides, in some ways it seems UT is supposed to be a "subversion" of typical RPG plotlines - so having the most generic RPG mechanics possible actually suits it.

That signature

Everything about this is wonderful.

Tyler Edwards
Tyler Edwards

a signature
I love this one. I feel like I need to create a new folder for Uncommon Time.

Wyatt Allen
Wyatt Allen

Beautiful.

Luis Wright
Luis Wright

what and . My 2 cents are we are better of letting it as it is, this way we suffer more and suffering was necessary for our healing

Juan Clark
Juan Clark

just confirmed that I'm probably not going to have internet after after next month for ~2 years
Sorry everyone, but I guess there probably won't be a Winter stream after all unless there's a Christmas miracle of some sort. Keep your eyes peeled around 11/12 but don't get your hopes up

Jack Jackson
Jack Jackson

More for gameplay stuff, stats and what not
But like
said, it might taint the experience
Guess I'll leave it alone

Kevin Perez
Kevin Perez

two years
What the fuck is happening, user? Are you moving to the Amazon?

Dylan Reed
Dylan Reed

probably not going to have internet after after next month for ~2 years
2 years
Are you going on a spiritual journey or something? You didn't sign up for the armed forces, did you?

Jayden Cooper
Jayden Cooper

Fuck, that's perfect

Dominic Baker
Dominic Baker

No, just moving halfway across the country and pretty much starting from nothing

Jonathan Bennett
Jonathan Bennett

Did anyone ever sort out Stream #5 and make it available for download?

Jeremiah Long
Jeremiah Long

Oh, okay. Happy trails.

Andrew Cook
Andrew Cook

Good luck fam. Hopefully you can get back on your feet sooner rather than later, but we'll be waiting for you to get back. Hopefully December won't be a fucking hellmarch and it'll be feasible for someone else to stream.

Isaac Kelly
Isaac Kelly

I'd stream myself but my net connection is abysmal. Best of luck, dude.

If anyone wants to pick up the winter stream, uh, do think about it. It'd be great to have one.

Josiah Scott
Josiah Scott

…Huh. Something just clicked into place for me after watching the recording of the Duet stream again.

Bravura says that spirits have the ability to learn the contents of their opponents' hearts in the heat of battle
Arietta, being part-spirit herself, built Uncommon Time as a place where she could do the same to her own heart in order to work past her issues
Alto is also part-spirit
by having Teagan along with her as she fought against the creations of her own heart, Alto was able to learn the contents of Teagan's heart as well
this is why Winter Alto knew that Teagan had been trying to talk herself into Ending 5-ing Alto earlier
this is also what led to the creation of Nega-Teagan
the Nega-Teagan fight allowed Teagan to confront her own heart
Duet really was about Teagan and Alto working together to get through their issues

Duetanon, you magnificent bastard.

Xavier Walker
Xavier Walker

Duet really was about Teagan and Alto working together to get through their issues

That was a thing the main game handled so poorly, and is a huge reason both Pittura and Duet are much more satisfying takes on the story.

Teagan and Alto's issues are intertwined so tightly that the only ways they have of dealing with them are to either break off from each other entirely or work through it together, as a team and as equals.

The game tried to do some combination of both, in which Alto shut down her empathy towards Teagan as a means of shielding herself from further harm but still wanted some form of relationship with her, but since you can't shut down your empathy towards someone and still have a close relationship with them, this just resulted in an Alto who never works past her problems with Teagan and a Teagan who will never be able to have closure no matter how much she changes herself or tries to apologize.

Pittura had them go their separate ways, which would allow them space and time to heal, but would forever leave a few dangling threads.

Duet had them save themselves, and each other. So now they can move forward and have a mutually beneficial and happy friendship.

Duet in particular makes me very happy in ways I can't articulate properly

Hunter Price
Hunter Price

We need to keep the meme alive.

Landon Long
Landon Long

This might be a bit late, but what does the "Nega" in Nega-Teagan stand for?

Adrian Reed
Adrian Reed

Nega, as in negative or negated.
Basically, the "evil" side of Teagan.
The nega-prefix is pretty commonly used anywhere.

Hudson Lopez
Hudson Lopez

He still doesn't have a folder
I can't see how that's possible.

Negative.
Synonyms: Alternate; Opposite; Evil version w/ a moustache.
It's not a term in the game.

Daniel Flores
Daniel Flores

Thanks.
Just sounded like "Neger" too me, which, surprisingly, means Nigger in German.
Which would still fit tbh

Christopher Ramirez
Christopher Ramirez

What did he mean by this?

Seriously, I don't get the reference.

Cooper Watson
Cooper Watson

u will neber fug bravura

Evan Torres
Evan Torres

There's a tag called "Antai Spoiler" on Feral's blog which likely refers to Uncommon Time.

Tyler Gutierrez
Tyler Gutierrez

It's some turbo weeb stuff.
In Japanese, they typically abbreviate phrases (or anime/manga/game titles) by using the first two characters of the first two main words. In Japanese, Uncommon Time would be アンコモン・タイム (ankomon taimu). Shorten it down to the first two characters of each word and you get アンタイ, or "Antai".

Adam Perry
Adam Perry

I'll take a look into whether or not my shit can handle streaming next monday.
I don't know why the stupid shit she does surprises me anymore.

Dominic Collins
Dominic Collins

It's simple. The streams change from a monument to negativity and criticism, towards monument of positive critique and improvement. Every stream, we play the game and ask "How can we improve on this game and make it better?". We do that until the game becomes good.

After that, we start working on the fan sequel.

Daniel Roberts
Daniel Roberts

instead of complaining about bad games, anons work together towards fixing and creating good games
We live in the best timeline.

Thomas Brooks
Thomas Brooks

Well, if posters like 5280ce are anything to say then just the XP mod alone seemed to have trimmed the sheer length of the game to just a tad slower than playing the unmodded game with Chit Engin.

Jeremiah Turner
Jeremiah Turner

Just halving the HP of all the bosses would easily shave 6 hours of the play time while not changing the pacing or "gameplay" at all.

Liam Diaz
Liam Diaz

And think about what else we could do. We could rework the battle system, rework the locations, enemies, items, skills so that they are basically similar but better. And that's only gameplay changes.We can make the game be fun aside from story and then also fix the story even more than we already did.

Bentley Hughes
Bentley Hughes

rhythm games
implying she didn't get her fighting style from God Hand

Cameron Brooks
Cameron Brooks

There's no game with Teagan as the MC that plays like God Hand.

Luis Rodriguez
Luis Rodriguez

Can't remember the game pre-Nuclear Teagan.
Decide to play Duet from the very beginning of the game to the Duet ending.
Never realized how often Teagan insulted Alto.
Never noticed Teagan implying she regretted meeting Alto in the "Drunk Teagan" scene.
Started getting a sinking feeling that now that I am sympathetic to Alto, I might start to hate Teagan.
Finally reach Nuclear Teagan
Teagan is still right, but I feel bad for all characters involved now.
Get to the Duet branch.
Nothing feels out of place.
It still feels good, even with the added context.
Best ending in the game.
Bravo, Duet user.

Pics related are my favorite lines from Duet. Just felt like sharing.

Jose Wright
Jose Wright

The "puzzles" in the game are basically nigh nonexistant ("Google it" as a tip for one puzzle solution, another puzzle involving pressing giant obvious red buttons, etc…) And since the creator did mean for there to be puzzles, an obvious gameplay improvement would be to make puzzles that aren't either so basic a two year old could solve them or requiring one to have Music 101 knowledge (or google.)

Carson Cox
Carson Cox

Never realized how often Teagan insulted Alto.
Never noticed Teagan implying she regretted meeting Alto in the "Drunk Teagan" scene.

You know, I'm feeling like you're right but I can't think of any examples.
Odd.
But perhaps my newfound sympathy for Alto is just clouding my memory

Xavier Adams
Xavier Adams

She pretty regularly says Alto's an idiot who needs to be babysat.

Thomas Richardson
Thomas Richardson

Fucking christ I'm half tempted to ask someone to make a version without the pronoun shit with Aubrey before I lose my mind. Who the fuck calls someone a Mx.?
Why am I even playing this shit?

Hunter Johnson
Hunter Johnson

I'll just take your word for it, I really don't feel like playing this shit again

Nolan Parker
Nolan Parker

Well. she isn't wrong.

Colton Wilson
Colton Wilson

To experience the Duet ending for yourself and feel our bliss.

Justin Peterson
Justin Peterson

And with FeralAlto, I'd think her justified. Suddenly Alto gains self-awareness and all that becomes heavy-handed to compare.
Be thankful you can even play. Wine doesn't work on the Duet version, and I'm not about to play it without that XP boost.

Camden Ward
Camden Ward

Friends hurt each other sometimes, in ways they realise and ways they don't. It doesn't mean they should stop being friends.
A good friendship is one that can work these things out.

Bentley Flores
Bentley Flores

She's pretty aggressive, but let's not forget 2 things:
Alto is a fucking retarded edgemaster
They have to save the world, and therapy is not the top priority.

Anthony Jenkins
Anthony Jenkins

I wasn't there to see it live

Fucking timezones.
Fucking work.
Why couldn't this shit happen back when I was a NEET?

Jeremiah Bell
Jeremiah Bell

I'm glad. It really was important to have this all fit together and not have anyone doing anything out of character, because it wouldn't have been satisfying if it had seemed artificial or like it couldn't be part of the main story. If there had been someone preaching at Alto, or some big gratuitous apology on her part, it would have seemed like fan-fiction which it is, but the point was to change as little as possible.

"I'm Teagan…" still makes me tear up.

pronoun shit
One of the hardest parts of writing Duet was going back through everything and making sure every time someone referred to Aubrey it was actually "they" rather than "she". Even Winter Alto isn't so bad that she'd misgender someone, after all. :^)

Daniel Walker
Daniel Walker

Here's some stats from the stream, if y'all are curios.
Something that I found interesting was that Duet got more viewers than NUCLEAR (96 vs 89). Bravo DuetAnon, you're more popular than the biggest moment in the actual game.

Logan Reyes
Logan Reyes

I can find my nickname on that screenshot

Feels good.

Adam Bailey
Adam Bailey

I can't think of any examples.
It's interesting, because a lot of the time, what Teagan says, if taken out of context, could very easily be viewed as friendly banter and it actually starts off very innocuous, but slowly ramps up over time. At the pier, I think Teagan only insults Alto once, and it was mostly a "I can't believe you believe in this World Tuning nonsense."

Afterwards it cools down when Saki presents the magical score sheet, which proves to Teagan the World Tuning is real. It starts ramping up again when Meirin is added to the party because, in Teagan's view, Meirin is incompetent and should not be given the task of playing the song that saves the world. Not to mention the many detours the party takes in stopping at every town.

I feel it's Teagan slowly getting fed up with Alto and the rest not taking the World Tuning seriously. Alto has been trying to convince Teagan that the World Tuning is real for years, and now that Teagan finally believes, Alto wants to go recruit a hobo, an incompetent violinist, and some woman who just woke up from a 2000 year long sleep.

Things came to a head during the "Teagan Drinking Alone" scene. The only two people awake are Alto and Teagan, the rest of the party is passed out. Teagan admits that she needs to stop drinking. She then goes on to say "Every time I drink like this, I like to think about what would have happened if I never saw you in the garden. (Or something like that)" To which Alto responds, "That hurts."

The thing is, I don't like the way FP has revenge against Teagan; I feel every writer should have some form of love every character they write, even if they are writing a villain they intend to knock down. Duet, even with its memes and shonen-esque scenes, is by far the best ending I could have hoped for.

Aubrey it was actually "they" rather than "she".
Side note on this: Feral actually thinks that she gave Aubrey an ambiguous sex and is actually trying to pull the "Aubrey is whatever you want them to be!" Like Aubrey is the main character from Undertale. Look, if Alto is sweating over "My parents want me to have a baby!" It's pretty obvious Aubrey isn't a man.

Isaac Wright
Isaac Wright

I feel that it should be preserved. The absurd sincerity of it all is what made the game so entertaining. Honestly, I want to see if we can expand on it and explain why the characters are the way they are to see if a couple of fags on the internet can write better minority characters than paid writers.

Dylan Clark
Dylan Clark

Thread archive just so no one forgets. archive.is/vw0Au

Same. I don't know how we write Aubrey without it, and even so, an actually decent minority character would be a good challenge.

Easton Morris
Easton Morris

Yeah. The problem with UT isn't that Feral never portrayed Teagan as being flawed and even as hurtful to Alto. The problem was that the narrative opted to punish Teagan indefinitely for it and make her a punching bag for Alto for the rest of the game and call it "moving forward and fixing the relationship." Rather than actually moving forward and fixing the relationship.

I really enjoyed how both Pittura Infamante and Duet just had Aubrey as "they" without ever commenting on it. Something of the flavor would be lost without Aubrey being The Many.

Carter Gutierrez
Carter Gutierrez

(42) after this post
My God, I need to stop. This is too autistic for me.

I think that Aubrey's gender bullshit should be explained as that she lost her identity after the explosion or traumatized by Chantal's faggotry, so she feels like she just exists in limbo rather than reality. It needs work, but it's much better than "muh pronouns."

Kevin Morgan
Kevin Morgan

can we just fix the whole game already?

Ian Cruz
Ian Cruz

It's not that Teagan did nothing wring, it0s just that while she gets shat on for it, Alto gets praised for being wrong. And even if Teagan does wrong, is usually justifiable, by the context.

Anthony Bailey
Anthony Bailey

If there's a trans user posting alongside us, they'd probably be able to give some good input on how to write Aubrey. Of course, we'd need to not autisticly screech "degenerate" at them the second they identify themselves.

Aiden Long
Aiden Long

I thought audrey just had the stupid they pronouns and her friend was the tranny.

John Reyes
John Reyes

Aubrey is agender, which is essentialy trans. At the very least, it's closer to being trans than being cis normal

Thomas Martinez
Thomas Martinez

Nigger, the entire concept of transgenderism is bullshit from start to finish: it's having a mental illness, then choosing to mutilate your body into a crude resemblance of the opposite sex because muh identity. Haven't you wondered why shitloads of trannies kill themselves, even after the surgery and hormones?

Matthew Allen
Matthew Allen

For that, the story needs to be preserved in its entirety with explanations to certain endings.

I don't think Aubrey is a tranny, though. I doubt we have any anons on Holla Forums who are trannies either. There was one on a self-help board here, but I wouldn't be surprised if he committed suicide by now.

Isaac Smith
Isaac Smith

I believe it could be saved with more or less the same story. The thing is, there's a lot of flat out bullshit in it that I'd consider a near dealbreaker in a really good game, and I don't know how much we can edit or change.
Start at least with Tumblr degeneracy, follow into subtle arts of characterisation and top the whole thing off with win.

Brayden Price
Brayden Price

I know a surprising amount of trannies on twatter and youtube. The well adjusted enough kind, mind, who don't get triggered over any little thing. The best I gather is, gender dysphoria is a legit thing that needs treatment, but that's a rare mental disorder (since why would you be intentionally born in the wrong body?)

In lucrative societies like the first world, though, it's easy to feel lost. That's why tolerance for an unusual circumstance became a bandwagon, in my opinion.

Jayden Gomez
Jayden Gomez

I don't see how any of what you just said is relevant. I'm just saying that we've got a character who's essentially trans, and a trans person would probably understand Aubrey better than a normal person.
The moral/ethical implications of being trans are separate issues entirely.

I doubt we have any anons on Holla Forums who are trannies either.
Holla Forums's a big place, who knows who lurks behind these posts.

Ian Sanchez
Ian Sanchez

The notion that you have to be something in order to write a character which is that thing is cancerous as fuck, and leads to the sort of shit you see going on at Marvel right now. Just write an interesting character.
which is essentialy trans
No, it'd still be a factory stock female. It just doesn't identify with that fact, because SJWs think that gender and sex are two different things that you can pick and choose, and in this case, it chose neither.

William Adams
William Adams

He isn't advocating for transsexualism, but asking for reference material to make Aubrey's ambiguity more convincing and understandable. I'm pretty sure that everyone agrees that trannies have a mental illness, but we don't know what it's like because we're for the most part I hope normal.

The Tumblr degeneracy must remain in the game, we just need to explain it away like we did with Alto.

Jayden Long
Jayden Long

Chantal latched onto Aubrey after Altair took them in, decided to be a big sister to Aubrey, and is very pushy about Aubs's hormone treatments, hormone treatments. And Chantal outright states that she cares so much about what Aubrey does because Aubrey reminds her of herself when she was younger and so she projects on them.

It would be very easy to just make it so that Chantal assumed Aubs was trans like her and ran with it out of a psychological need to redo her childhood.

Carson Diaz
Carson Diaz

You'll have to forgive my old fashion way of thinking and not understating that crap. It probably doesn't help how shoehorned in it felt.

Anyways I see why you lads like Teagan so much, while not perfict, she definitely has a good head on her shoulders.
I'm amazed she hasn't given the rest of them a boot to the arse yet.

Christopher Myers
Christopher Myers

It would be very easy to just make it so that Chantal assumed Aubs was trans like her and ran with it out of a psychological need to redo her childhood.
Oh shit, I think we have our backstory.

Levi Brooks
Levi Brooks

Not so fast. Someone Aubrey, Chantal, or Altair, I forget which says the reason Chantal got so close to Aubrey is because they're both """genderqueer""". The way I'd read that is that Aubrey was already identifying themselves as agender before they got adopted, and when Chantal found that out she go close to them.
The reason why Chantal was so concerned for Aubrey was because she didn't want them to end up not transitioning properly like she did.

Hunter Hall
Hunter Hall

It would be very easy to just make it so that Chantal assumed Aubs was trans like her and ran with it out of a psychological need to redo her childhood.
It's solid and relatively non-degenerate. I like it.

Kevin Phillips
Kevin Phillips

Ah, right, forgot that part.
Believe it was Chantal.
Now this begs the question of how Aubrey came to the conclusion they were agender before they were like ten.

Juan Campbell
Juan Campbell

how do you transition into "they"?

Robert Turner
Robert Turner

explain why the characters are the way they are
Well, after playing through the first chapter and a half of the game, and experiencing what are pretty much the only scenes Saki and Meirin are fleshed out, these are my opinions:

For Meirin, I think she acts like a slut because she wants to be viewed as holding the responsibility of an adult and erroneous associates sexuality with adulthood. She also has a lot of mommy/daddy issues because, being the middle child, she gets neither the support of the older siblings nor the attention of the younger siblings. She mentioned she felt invisible in her home, and after getting yelled at for wasting her parents money (she demanded violin lessons, and when she finally got them, she didn't like the fact that she would have to learn from structured sheet music, and so rebelled, refusing to take any further lessons), Meirin runs away to join a traveling band. She seems to put a lot of stock in trying to be self reliant (which she consistently fails at throughout the game).

For Saki, his entire issue can be summed up in the fact that when he was 12, he suddenly saw into the future and saw himself on his deathbed. From the fact that he wants to kill himself, I can only assume what he saw was not the soft passing away of an old man surrounded by his family, but instead the painful passing of a man alone. It would also explain why, despite acting as a parental figure for the party, keeps an emotional distance from everyone. Because he knows (or assumes) they will abandon him on his deathbed.

The relationship between the two is also an interested thing from what I've seen. It's quite obvious they have a romantic relationship, but for some reason they do not engage in any sexual activity. I think there are psychological reasons on both ends for this: For Saki, he at one point states that he is 95% uninterested in women which is odd, because if he was gay, why wouldn't he just say 100%? I think he is something more akin to bi and doesn't want to get involved with a woman under the basis that it could lead to a child, a child that carries his genetic disease. For Meirin, she outright states that she doesn't view Saki sexually because he is too old for her, which makes no fucking sense, especially since the man still looks young and women are generally attracted to older men. I think Meirin's actual hangup is that while being with Saki, it is terribly obvious just how childish she is, and she hates that part of herself (as that childishness is what made her choose to remove herself from her family).

Of course, all of this is just armchair psychology and speculation, and anyways, we all know the real answer is FP thought a romantic relationship between two people who were not sexually attracted to one another would make her look super progressive.

Jeremiah Anderson
Jeremiah Anderson

Now this begs the question of how Aubrey came to the conclusion they were agender before they were like ten.
Kids can start forming their gender identity before puberty. At an early age Aubrey probably just didn't feel like a boy/girl, so they started identifying as neither.

Transition towards androgyny. Take enough HRT to reduce the natal sex traits without going too far in the other direction.

Joseph Peterson
Joseph Peterson

But what if Aubrey became (((genderqueer))) after interacting with Chantal, hence why they got closer and why Chantal took on a sisterly role? Also, there's one big hole in the plot. Chantal is on HRT and gives smol worms some, but Chantal is a dude turning into a grill. So if smol worms was a grill from the beginning, what effect would the HRT have on her? Isn't it just estrogen?

Charles Butler
Charles Butler

Chantal is on HRT and gives smol worms some, but Chantal is a dude turning into a grill. So if smol worms was a grill from the beginning, what effect would the HRT have on her? Isn't it just estrogen?
It's never said anywhere that Chantal gives some of her HRT to Aubrey, she's just reminding them to take their own. Aubrey was shown to be so obsessed with research/working with Altair that they forgot to eat/sleep, Chantal was probably just concerned with Aubrey taking their own medication on time.
Also, Aubrey could be genetically male. Sure, Alto's went on about not having kids, but Aubrey could've gotten some surgery down there or is just infertile from the HRT Since Aubrey's 'mones are never brought up again in the month(?) after they woke up, that makes me think Aubrey probably had some sorta long-term solution (i.e surgery)

Jeremiah Nelson
Jeremiah Nelson

I doubt it was the same. We can't really tell much from the art, since Feral basically just draws all girls and calls some boys, but Aubrey is definitely a feminine name. Plus, Altair gave her the name "Spica", which ends in a traditionally feminine vowel. I think it'd be more probable that Chantal simply gave different hormones to Aubrey. Hell, didn't Chantal >herself get pissy with >her parents about not getting hormones early on? It's not like such faggotry is uncommon in Harmonia.
Kids start forming their identity early on, yes, but as we've seen with that 6 year old girl whom was told by her (coincidentally) transsexual parents that she was transsexual too, they can easily be misled on this fact. These people aren't above outright sacrificing a child's happiness for either progressiveness or their own mental illness.

Hudson Cox
Hudson Cox

Didn't Arietta lecture Chantal on the HRT thing, though?
We are not making worms a dude. That's too gay, even for Holla Forums.

Evan Long
Evan Long

Kids start forming their identity early on, yes, but as we've seen with that 6 year old girl whom was told by her (coincidentally) transsexual parents that she was transsexual too, they can easily be misled on this fact. These people aren't above outright sacrificing a child's happiness for either progressiveness or their own mental illness.
I see where you're going but I disagree with your conclusion. I think parents could seriously alter a young child's identity, absolutely. However, Chantal is not Aubrey's parent, she's an older sister, and not that much older at that (~4 years I think?). Chantal simply doesn't have enough control/power over Aubrey to really create such a drastic change. Plus, there's a massive difference in how strong the self-identity is in a 6-year-old (who had probably been brainwashed from a much earlier age) vs. a 10-year-old.

Michael Clark
Michael Clark

But you have to remember that Aubrey and Chantal got together as a result of being orphaned from that Metronome disaster, and the death of a kids' parents at a young age usually has a tremendous psychological effect, but FP never explored this at all. Aubrey is also completely broken and lets other people dictate her life.

Josiah Bennett
Josiah Bennett

Didn't Arietta lecture Chantal on the HRT thing, though?
Arietta and Chantal talked about Chantal's HRT. They never talked about Aubrey's.
not wanting worm dick
What are you, a faggot?
What's gay about thinking that Aubrey was male? Unless you wanna fug them, in which case just imagine they're a trap, which totally isn't gay :^)

Samuel Cruz
Samuel Cruz

the death of a kids' parents at a young age usually has a tremendous psychological effect
FP never explored this at all
Aubrey is also completely broken and lets other people dictate her life.
never explored at all

Try reading what you just wrote again.
Here's a hint: Aubrey's co-dependency issues almost certainly stem from the traumatic loss of their parents. They couldn't do anything to save them, so they end up viewing themselves as unable to even save/take care of themselves. That's why Aubrey leans so much on Altair, and later Alto. FP also touched on Aubrey's survivor's guilt, in that they are actively suicidal (see: their reasons for hibernating)

William Walker
William Walker

I'm not saying she's altering Aubrey's identity anywhere near enough. I'm saying she's telling Aubrey "All that psychological fallout you're feeling? Totally not from the death of your parents. Nope, you're TRANS! *cue Tumblr-tier lecture on how awesome transsexualism is and how it's totally not wrong-headed at best*" Naturally, Aubrey, being a little kid and impressionable to anyone who would give her attention, wouldn't think Chantal would lie. Hell, Chantal might have been misled in the same way, through a strong self-hate and lack of masculinity, and so really believed the bullshit she was spouting.
The idea of transsexualism is a cancer at every level, as harmful as any jewish brainwashing.

Carson Thompson
Carson Thompson

Holla Forums - HRT and sexual identity

Duet had me tearing up. Bravo.
It inspires me to do something of my own.

Ethan Russell
Ethan Russell

Everything that happened in Uncommon Time was at Altair's mansion and focused exclusively on the relationship between Aubrey and everyone else. Her dependence issue is never presented as trauma, and I don't even remember her even really talking about her life prior to the accident. It's more like she just falls in love with Altair and Alto.

Levi Ortiz
Levi Ortiz

Holla Forums - HRT and sexual identity
The cycle is complete.

Nicholas Sanders
Nicholas Sanders

The idea of transsexualism is a cancer at every level, as harmful as any jewish brainwashing.
>muh jewish boogeyman
/pol/ pls go and stay go

I almost certainly remember someone (99% certain it was the Aubrey's uncommon time version of Chantal) talking about how Aubrey was being too dependent on others, and it was definitely portrayed as a negative/harmful thing.

Ayden Stewart
Ayden Stewart

He did, or at least Aubrey's version of him did. All I'm saying is that her dependence issue isn't presented like it's a result from the accident

Austin Jackson
Austin Jackson

>user advocating for tranny posters to attention whore is from /leftypol/
really makes you think

Jose Torres
Jose Torres

Would you rather our people end up destroying their bodies due to psychological problems, which could so easily be solved with therapy?
But that isn't the topic of this thread, so I'll stop arguing about it henceforth.
Was it definitely a result from the accident?

Hudson Foster
Hudson Foster

All I'm saying is that her dependence issue isn't presented like it's a result from the accident
Aubrey seemed like they were a pretty independent kid before the accident. See pic related. Since they were independent before the accident, dependent after, I think that's decent evidence suggesting the accident is the cause.

Nathaniel Moore
Nathaniel Moore

Aubrey basically has Shiro Emiya's backstory, but not his hero complex

Bentley Scott
Bentley Scott

her parent's are whores
Motherfucker. This needs to be explained like her parents were bartenders. Still, enjoying or at least not minding solitude doesn't equate to independence.

Hudson Adams
Hudson Adams

Fuck, parents*. It's midnight here, I need sleep.

Christopher Thompson
Christopher Thompson

I lowkey wanna make a thread just to see this discussion continue, I enjoy it.

Christopher Thomas
Christopher Thomas

Still, enjoying or at least not minding solitude doesn't equate to independence.
If Aubrey was by themselves pretty much all day, that would've meant that she had to take care of herself without any help from her parents. I'd think that qualifies as at least a little independent. Certainly less independent than after the accident.

Go ahead my dude. Though, wait 'till page 13, at least.

Colton Cooper
Colton Cooper

Archive it, and we should resume it during the winter thread if there is one. I don't think we need another Uncommon Time thread right now since the stream is over, though I guess it's permissible because Holla Forums is for video game discussion. Anyways, I'm off to bed. G'night fags.

Luke Richardson
Luke Richardson

I'm probably not gonna make a new thread because most discussion has dried up for now.

My 2 cents on Aubrey are somewhat how I feel about Teagan/Alto where I saw her preach about the ills of abuse even when it wasn't remotely appropriate. She tells the Aubrey to forever regret their actions concerning Chantal, but in Aubrey time they were recently suicidal, and Alto telling her deeply-grieving recently-suicidal partner that they should forever regret their actions towards a person they can't apologize to right after that wound has been freshly ripped open was not only appallingly insensitive but potentially even downright dangerous.

Hudson Carter
Hudson Carter

i'd know a pittura review anywhere

Easton Parker
Easton Parker

btw Duet works on my machine.

John Myers
John Myers

IGT 1h 32m
Already past the manticore fight
Bravo, Duet

Liam Scott
Liam Scott

I thought WINE didn't play nice with Duet. What gives?

Jeremiah Young
Jeremiah Young

Buy a Macbook.

Adam Johnson
Adam Johnson

btw before I say goodnight and goodbye until the possible winter stream, this is how far I got in 3 hours 6 minutes of Duet user's playthrough—I am just before the SoL bit.

Tyler Lewis
Tyler Lewis

Wow. It's going to be just 2-3 streams to clear this game on future anniversaries, isn't it? Well, unless it's decided that suffering through it the old-fashioned way is part of the experience, anyway.

William Miller
William Miller

I admit that some things were somewhat lucky with status moves like stuns, burns and silences and I wasn't fucking around with things like music, the books in the Library and had fought every battle until After the boss fight with Wind Fairy, then I was somewhat tired and just ran from every fight on my way to Bel Canto—so I may have been even been a level or two higher

Jose Hall
Jose Hall

I beat it from beginning to Duet end in about 10-ish hours. I did take my time with it, though, and fought every random encounter. I did also keep the game open while I did other things and didn't use a walkthough, so forgetting what I was doing and getting lost was part of that time.

The entire conversation about Aubrey above
After getting some sleep, I think we're all making a mistake in trying to remove the tumblr from a tumblr game. I think it's better to just pretend all of the tumblrism is normal and instead focus on exploring the relationships between the characters in a manner that doesn't lead to verbally bludgeoning one another into the dirt.

Whelp, we're on the last page and about to go over the edge any minute. We will hopefully see eachother come winter, but even if we don't it was an amazing ride.
And, let it be mentioned one last time:
BRAVO, DUETANON!

Tyler Hall
Tyler Hall

Goodnight, thread.

Justin Torres
Justin Torres

Here's an archive of this thread; archive.is/qdpXO

Caleb Ramirez
Caleb Ramirez

Page 14

Just one last thing I'd like to mention, if you're playing Duet yourself. Since Teagan's "Brace" command makes her completely immune to physical attacks, if you use it against Almighty it makes her completely trivial and she can't hurt you at all. :^)

Cameron Martinez
Cameron Martinez

Don't get cute, user.

Nathaniel Adams
Nathaniel Adams

Also, Duet user, I'm curious, why did you give Evil Alto the Nuclear spell as well?
Giving it to Teagan makes perfect sense, but why also give it to Alto?

Joshua Perry
Joshua Perry

so, is there any download link?, i need to try this myself.

Wyatt Perez
Wyatt Perez

Install:
mega.nz/#!pmxGhIoQ!MxD1qSCqWCxQ3BYG_64Nt03cAoEJ0cIzIvH95uGuFp8

Save File (Go into town, then go to the inn, then go to the fairy village to start Duet):
mega.nz/#!9zASBLAa!mM7kIn-D8SNO3zC4x2qZ96NlPMMvmDMYSJH9iLHoyuY

Nathaniel Campbell
Nathaniel Campbell

I think you did however have Bravura call Luminoso a 'she'. Luminoso's a Many you shitlord

Samuel Smith
Samuel Smith

Happy Teagan + Alto artwork when?

Josiah Robinson
Josiah Robinson

When you make it.

Wyatt Jackson
Wyatt Jackson

Fug, you're right.

It's in the second phase of the fight, when Winter Alto's smug persona breaks apart. She really is nuclear at that point - and it's really impossible to separate what represents Alto or Teagan because of how just connected they are. Also I wanted to mechanically differentiate that phase from the one before by giving her a new move.

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