Overwatch: Summer games edition

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The game just is not fun to play, and takes no skill. It is first person League of Legends.

Oh, thanks for reminding me.

Buzzwords aren't things wrong with the game, user. I've never even played it and "It is first person League of Legends" is demonstrably wrong.

I dont play this game but seeing people get so insanely butthurt over it makes me want to bump this

nigger wot?

Gameplay videos, user. Those things that show off the game and junk.

Not wanting to give money and attention (AKA money) to a developer that is personally undermining your existence isn't wrong.

To your second statement, if you've never played it you admit you don't know what you're talking about, or are construing something based on your own lack of information; if it's demonstrable then demonstrate it.

Then you should see it has a strong resemblance to MOBAs, just in first person form.

Can you explain your reasoning beyond "just watch some videos"

mfw my friends are fellow stoners who grew up listening to rap music and they like 2 games. GTAV and OW

When is Torb getting a buff? I need a slight movement buff

Why should I play Overwatch when I can play Battleborn instead?

It's most likely either happening tomorrow or later this week. August 8th at the latest. Last year the Summer games started on the 2nd of August.

Probably never

Gearbox can't even give that game away user

What?
Sure, but that doesn't stop the fifty billion niggers who clearly aren't interested in the game running in to complain about things that're tertiary to the source at best. Why not hold all the shitposting to the same intellectual standards? Unless we're not actually interested in that, in which case it really is just brainless shitflinging in the manner you described, and Holla Forums is Holla Forums another day. I'll convert a webm for demonstration shortly.

Its resemblance to MOBAs ends with how characters operate on skills and ults; after that it bleeds into a Team Fortress 2 6s knockoff. Beyond skills and ults it bears little resemblance to a MOBA.

Am I missing anything?

6's is cancer anyway.

yes you should wait one soon it will come with a preordered dildo you humongulouslalalasissyfaggot

I agree that 6s is cancer, but don't shift goalposts.

I wonder where that Crash shill got off to

I've found the comparisons to TF2 come across as much more superficial. The game plays very differently (especially how much it focuses on gamesense and very little on mechanical skill)

A good example of this is how everyone accuses Tracer of being a Scout knockoff when in reality she plays very differently. She's not very mobile in terms of movement height and she's not really designed to take the objective. She's more so designed to distract the enemy and escape very quickly.

A closer comparison to the Scout in terms of gameplay is Genji specifically because of his double jump and how you should play him more as a DPS and dodge the enemy's attacks.

That's been a thing since the early 2000s with mmorpgs

Ranked systems have been a thing in games for a really long time

Fighting games have had this system since the 90s

Again not a particularly new concept nor something that MOBA games created as much as co-opted

That's been a thing since the 90s with Japanese games.

I guess with Destiny 2 bombing at Hiroshima-tier, Blizz/activision needs to make up some of the shekels they invested.

yummy

How's weather in Tel-Aviv, Moshe?

Probably has to do with the fact that the e-sports for this game has fucking tanked hard. Blizzard wanted this game to be a cash cow, but, as it turns out, a substanceless fad like Overwatch unsurprisingly does as most fads have done and is already on its way out.

See, the normalfags being a mostly brainless bunch with a short attention span is both a blessing and a curse.

The normalfag giveth, the normalfag taketh away.

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Don't waste your time user, most of these fucktards think that by regurgitating someone elses thoughts they're making an appeal to their intelligence.

If only they knew that tf2 is just a fucking shitty reskin of tf1 or maybe that OW is actually akin to what team fortress 2 was supposed to be (you know, a sequel, not a reskin for dipshits with no memory), they'd know that the points you've made are pretty self standing-i.e. the point about tracer.

Tracer does way more damage than the scout-the whole point of the scout in tf2 was to capture the flag and use his jets to get back ASAP-something that newfags can't seem to grip because 'muh payload' (i bet these fuckbois don't even remember the toaster). The only real comparison that could be made is torbjorn-hes pretty close to the engineer in almost every way… except hes pretty shit tier for the most part since hes got a ton of good counters.

The inclusion of ults forces a lot more team cohesion-you never really get that much in pub games for tf1 and tf1.5(valve shekel edition) except for the medic using his super charge (lol)

not to mention tf1.5 went to total shit after valve started to milk it with hats, loot crates, retarded gun variations, and all sorts of things that appeals to autists that call you a blizzdrone when you point out glaring facts.

Yeah, no

why live?

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cry more into your pillow at night, everyone else is having fun

The game just isn't balanced well enough for competitive play, there's plenty going on at casual levels since every character is viable there and wacky shit can happen but when people start playing competitively the viable character count drops to like 8 and everyone plays the exact same way every single match.

Oh, I see I'm talking to a legitimate retard. I'll just leave then.

Imma check those

Blizzdrones, shill, retard, what's the difference?

But don't you see, a super combo is just an ultimate, and recovery is just cooldown. :^^^^^^^^^^)

pcgamesn.com/overwatch/overwatch-sales-numbers

What's amusing to me is when TF2 came out it was seen as a casual game by TFC players and something that only "normalfags and women would play" due to the art style.

After 14 year olds started playing it then it was seen as a competitive tier fps despite how you have to limit a huge number of the game's mechanics (most of the classes and a lot of the unlockable weapons) to make the game ready to the point where people actually want to participate in a tournament for it.

The game made a billion dollars a year after release

overwatch is a meme game

I'm referring more to super moves and how depending on the fighting game they're implemented in they fill based on how much damage you deal. Which is the same in Overwatch.

Hid and filtered.

Yeah, and Guild Wars 2, before f2p, had 7 something million registered players. And that's a shit game and a PC exclusive.

Registered players doesn't mean jack shit, since it counts people who started the game once, and never touched it again during a free weekend. I know this is a meme thing to say, but it's just marketing bullshit.

Regardless all signs point to an upward trajectory. Whenever someone claims that the game is "on it's way out" they point to anecdotal evidence like "but my friends aren't playing it/I don't know anyone personally who's playing it right now".

Mercy likes nigger dick

It's an upward trajectory because the number of players that turned on the game once can't physically decrease you dumb nigger.

No they don't lmao

Overcucks BTFO

Now check my singles

Use a statistic next time if you want to sound less like a retard

If we kick (((Kaplan))) in the groin, we'll break your jaw.

Fucking lol. You didn't even read the article you posted did you? Of course the fucking registered players goes up over time, you fucking retard. You are quite possibly the dumbest shill/blizzdrone I have ever happened across. Your posts are far more entertaining than the shitty game this thread is about. I look forward to seeing how far you can cram your foot into your mouth.

Also, fucking lol at the retardation that every single cent of sales goes back into Blizzard's pockets. You should read up on things like marketing and publishers, or the various other factors that prevent you from calling every sale profit.

Give me a statistic on the number of current and not registered players, and I'll believe you in an instant.

Did you bother to read my post where I specifically cited sales figures like the game making over 1 billion dollars a year after release

There hasn't been a max exodus of players from the game a year after release and if you have evidence of that, that would be great.

Hey, overcuck, the AIDS train is coming to hit you in the ass.

because actiblizzion is one of the only companies who never release data on concurrent players, even though everyone from casuals to pros are pointing out their peers quitting and queues/matchmaking on a steady decline. they make all their money from soccer moms and redditor cows who log on for the artficial scarcity holiday calls to action, like the summer games, and plunk their shekels into the slots while slangin mimosas and mojitos.

god is real. if you have evidence otherwise, that would be great.

SocialJusticeWatch is full of sjw pandering from Tracer and the shitty new heroes to making Mei a fatty to appease fat, tattooed-Tumblr landwhales who refuse to exercise. Here's a daily reminder that having to make Tracer gay had more priority than giving Diablo a decent 25th anniversary let alone a real fucking Blizzcon panel.

Blizzard refuses to leak out any data involving the playerbases in their games. Legion is losing subs like crazy because it's a very bad expansion.

Battleborn is superior

Also if we are comparing total sales, Battleborn has 4 million active players too, and hasn't declined. Why aren't you playing it?

Yeah, game is running good, right?
At the moment it looks as if most sponsors and teams have still some hope left that the new league will change something, but if it doesn't the game will most likley slowly but surley die out.

Could anyone repost the very detailed ramblings of some autists why overwatch sucks ass comapred to basically any other shooter?
I know I used to have them, but can't find them anymore.
Some 3 or 4 pics.

I'm not badass enough

Your kind isn't wanted here.

Upgrade your ass morality with Borderlands 2 ™GOTY edition.

haha oh wow

Something something, cheaters thinking about sueing blizzard because massive ban waves everytime a new "undetectable hack" is released.
Why are you lying online when everyone still remenbers the salt of those fags, especially the jewish faggot asking for forum donations to coordinate a legal attack on Blizzard?

You're gonna have to do better.

How would you even know that casuals are quitting? What pros?
Pros only "quit" a game when they change to something else since they stick to what's popular, one of the reasons so many jumped from TF2 to Overwatch, they don't just "quit" from what's literally their job.
Where exactly would the "pros" be going when everything else released is niche at best?

How'd you even know this without playing the game? What does that even mean, longer queue times?

I keep saying that you niggers have limits on your shitpost, that you pay attention and re-read what you post because you just want to shitpost, not look like absolute retards.
And yet there you go, posting this…

You know you get boxes just for playing, right? That a lot of people don't actually buy them, they just play the game during the event and see what they got at the end?

You're the one claiming the game is dying. Post numbers. Post videos of "pros" calling it quits. Post something that isn't just hearsay out of your mouth.

You cuck should really stop with the overcuck shilling. Its obviously shilling because every time you losers make a thread you get bombed and you still come back.

prove you're not a blizzard employee

rational? what a load of bullshit./wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

Thanks for the Gondos.

Nice filters. :^)

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I'd imagine it's a bit counter-intuitive if the turrets start firing as soon as she de-cloaks and is unable to hack them afterwards.
It's funny because they end up working in exact oposites of their TF2 counterparts and Torb is a legit Sombra counter that way.
Not really if Sombra actually knows how to play with her

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go to any pro's stream who doesn't make their living streaming and ask them. i'm not digging through vods for some shill nigger. EFFECT was looking at CS:GO, but all the koreans are worried too. literally every pro's last hope is the SELF-OWNED OWL. many pros quit esports altogether if their game dies because they're kids and just do something else. esports has an extremely small age window for top performance.

just go to rebbit if you want to see entire threads of casuals talking about having spent hundreds on loot boxes and look forward to $MARKETING_EVENT to dispense some more

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It's pretty hard to read anything after this seriously when you aren't even intellectually honest to yourself, Ann.

Apparently you did before this to know that "pros are leaving the game", but now that someone is asking for proof, you can't be bothered with it. You're pretty selective with this, aren't you? Only browsing shitty e-sports "pro" streamers to feel disgusted at a game you don't even like, apparently.

Was here long before Overwatch. If pro's ditched it for OW before, they are not gonna go back, especially considering how competitive that scene in particular seems to be or how the jewing there is much worse to the point it's actually putting people off.
???

Then they aren't pros to begin with. Professional players and in particular profissional streamers never leave a game unless there's something more popular to play with. You don't seem to understand this (and it's a good thing actually, this mindset is horrible) but to them videogames are a job. They can't just call it quits, the views are what puts food on their table. They only ever change for something that can give them more money and "nothing" happens to give no money at all.
And unless your definition of "kid" extends up to almost 30 years old, many of them are grown ass men and women. Some are paying for college and university with that shit.

Blizzard stopped releasing subscribers number since Gaylords of Draenor failure, when playerbase reached a record low.

alright, you've had your fun drone

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Sukumizu skin for D.Va when?
WHERES THE PORN

Best I can find is Warhowl, sorry I don't know every niche streamer out there :^)

Pros, as in profissionals, are people that make money out of a particular activity. Streaming does net you quite a lot of cash apparently so indeed streamers are pros.
Unless you want to go by the definition of "pro" being those that take part in tourneys, but those also stream anyway, so what's your point?

First result from google, for (((obvious reasons))). But that you'd focus on that instead of acknowledging the fallacy is expected at this point. :^)

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While you pillocks are 'relatively' 'free' to post here, know that you are not welcome by many here and they shall make it clear to you. No matter how many time you cunts showed up, and bitching/strawmanning/or whatever the fuck you try to do, it will not change that nor the fact that you overkike cocksuckers have bad taste in video game and lacking in common courtesy and decency. Overstaying your welcome in the place where no one wants you and think it is 'smug' to do so, guess what, that is exactly how obnoxious gayfaggots in real life do too. So bugger off, would you kindly.

Truly the greatest sin that the usual suspect brought unto this board was the collectivist mindset.

You posted this while shitposting in a thread full of people that just want to talk about the game.
You have 0 self-awareness, grow the fuck up.

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I want to marry Orisa.

let me guess only 2 of these 9 poster aren't posting porn

Let's not play the identity game, user. You're not good enough at it.

Well, in that case

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is worse taste possible?

Still doesn't change the fact that there's only nine people in the thread that argued in favor of the game, and even then, may not even be interested in actually discussing the game.

played the garbage that its from

When you go out for a drink, do you piss on your beer and then claim it should be free because there's piss in it?

Not my fault there's thin-skinned faggots who don't know how to filter.

Holy shit you reek of cuckchan.

faggot

I'm sure you'll object to any of those 4 so what about I hit a bit closer to home?

Check these

you are weak

Nice

If we have to fall, at least let me fall fighting against shit like this.

Of what? Regardless of how wrong you are?
And you wonder why "overcuck" caught on so quickly.

The sad thing is to see Gondola posting this blatantly breaking several rules regarding spam (it's pretty much avatarfagging at this point) and yet see no moderation action against it. Not even to spoiler the unspoilered porn.

How's everyone dealing with Doomfist?

Disregard this post, it's nothing but lies and slanders. The mod team remains impartial and dutyfull, it seems.

No worries, only 38 proxies to go

Is he already in the main game or just the test servers?

Also, he is shit. Not-Terry_Crew/10 and not even a Falcon Punch reference in there.

sorry kike, overwatch is le best *!*

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mmmmmm i love black cock mmm
U mad whiteboi?

Oh cool an overwatch thread
do you guys have a Discord?
do you guys play together?

honestly, overwatch is dead and no-one cares. I enjoyed my time with it, but a lot of people have just moved on

I love these types of posters. the really butthurt spergs who reply to everything that resembles a negative reply, typing individual responses to each, and acting smarter

stay mad

ASS

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Is that you, huemonkey?
Gesundheit.

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He just seems not very good. Bland design visually, combo reliant in a game where everyone has really easy ways to disable or break out of combos, I don't see why anyone would use him over genji or reaper.

of mostly crappy SFM porn

thank you friend

Overwatch is only fun in arcade ,when you put everything at 500%

DUBS

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he says after 2 singles previously
but i'll check those

I was thinking of switching over to Zenyatta (I wanna be a heal slut for once). Anybody go advice?

Get used to dying a lot because you've got no mobility or defense and your team sure isn't going to help you

get used to spamming harmony orb and discord orb because they deactivate after 4 seconds of having no line of sight. And as said, even though he floats, he moves slower than rein. Also the only decent healing you will do is when you pop transcendence. Get used to taking long range pot shots and charging up alt fire to to take out tanks after discording them, specifically d.va and pig boi.

that is one very sexy loli

Also enjoy poping your ult and seeing everyone run away whilst you try to push an objective.

Zeny can be cool but he's very, very reliant, second only to Mercy in that regard.

You have 0 mobility so never be caught flat-footed or in a bad position.
Try to stay near your team but not too close and never in the front or the sides.
Remenber however that you have a fuckton of shields, you can take a few potshots and tank a little bit.

Both orbs are your main concern, always be checking all around for targets that can receive them. You can save lives with the healing orb from a very far away distance and easily negate kills, plus charge your Ult very fast.
You gotta keep in check every fight as well to drop a Discord Orb for support. If you do it from far away, your foe won't even know why he dies so fast, but surprise is key here since he will obviously notice in about 1-2 seconds.

Don't disregard your firing mode, you can actually deal serious damage with that. It's easier to aim and does better damage than Lucio and you can do it while healing people unlike Mercy. But always keep in mind that it's support fire only.
The charge mode seems neat but it's situational, don't rely too much on it.

Your Ult exists for the single purpose of cucking the enemy team. Never, ever waste it just to heal people or because there's a lot of pressure. You want it ready for the moment that something nasty comes your way (but keep in mind it doesn't do shit against DVa's mech for instance.

So I'm gonna need a lot of baby sitting then?

Goodness gracious, no! On the contrary, if you need baby sitting, you're not playing very well.

You'll be the one doing the baby sitting, making sure everyone is topped off and tipping the balance in every "1v1 fgt" you see happening around you.
But if you put yourself in a position where you need help from your team, you're being a burden to them and you'd be better off with Lucio or Ana.

ITS

A humorless cartoon from MTV, yes.
Everyone already heard that joke a million times, dunno why you think glorifying nigger culture is funny.

fuck off

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Basically you're going to sit behind your team spamming discord on and then holding M1 at any enemy who pops into vision, tossing healing on whoever is taking damage and reapplying it constantly because your teammates will keep breaking LoS to you because they don't care or don't understand how your orbs work, and every time a winston or tracer or genji or any other diver jumps on you you're going to die before your teammates react and handle them and then they're going to spam "I need healing" until you respawn and slowly drift back to them.

pretty much
there is a way to speed up the drift back though use transcendence

SUMMER GAMES NEVER

Have discord orb bound to right-click and your alternate fire bound to the mouse-wheel button.

Makes playing him so much easier.

Competitive TF2 is cancer but it's a million times better than competitive Overwatch.

Type "burn the coal, pay the toll" in chat, and then focus kill him for the entire match. Nobody has become gud with him yet, but I'm guessing the nerf arrived well before that.

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And don't forget that one of those 4 classes, the Medic, is often played by someone that doesn't even like to play it but has to because not having a Medic is auto-lose for their team.
Truly a masterpiece of a game, where one meta and only one meta is viable, removing 5 out of 9 characters from the game.

So it's like Overwatch but takes a bit more skill.

No, really. Explain how it requires more skill to do the exact same shit as the opposing team in every single game, only slightly marginally better than them?

how much does activision pay for this privilege?

Holy fuck this thread is going into the archive, overwatch faggots really are this delusional. And before you try to strawman, I dont like or defend TF2 in any way.

Huh, just noticed my posts are gone too. Only a matter of time before the LoL threads start popping up

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I miss the shitcast

Only reason this thread exists is because summerfags

The skill in Overwatch is less mechanical skill and more gamesense

In a game like TF2 you can easily clutch as a Scout and take out like 5-6 players through just mechanical skill. It's why when you play the game you'll notice like 3 players remain perpetually at the top of the ladder and the rest are just mediocre players.

Overwatch though is gamesense. Like if you don't have a medic on your team in TF2 it really isn't much of a dealbreaker especially for a bunch of classes like the Engineer, spy or sniper. If you don't have a healer in overwatch, you will lose 99 times out of 100. Because of just how important it is to rely on your teammates to actually progress

The game also doesn't reward kills as much as winning the objective. Almost everything in TF2 rewards kills. Dominations, stranges, etc. In Overwatch you can get player of the game by being Mercy and just getting a really good rez. And if you lose the game but get a lot of kills nobody gives a shit because you lose rank in the competitive mode.

And because of Mark's buyer's remorse.

Overwatch has a one hero cap, so you're going to see at least six different heroes being played in a game. And even then the balance is good enough that you'll see some variety. Even when a meta does form, unlike Valve, Blizzard are actually willing to try to break it.

On top of that, there's more than one healer role, so you aren't forced to player healer in any particular way, with some designed to let you fight and heal at the same time. Even the TF2 Medic equivalent Mercy is honestly more fun than playing TF2's Medic.

I can now rest in peace.

Just ignore me. Im going to let this thread speak for itself

Plenty of posts above criticizing the game are still up. Gondola posting is very cute, but it's not really criticism, sorry. I wonder…
>>>/gondola/

All threads go in the archive, dunno what you're trying to imply there.

Most of that applies to casual games in TF2, though. Once you hit competitive or join the dreaded shitfest that is 6's and highlander, you do need a medic, always.

But mechanical skill there still trumps anyway since both teams will present the exact same composition and how good you are with your class dictates how the game goes.
You can try to change to something else and counter the enemy team with other game mechanics but it has been demonstred that you'll just be gimping yourself.

Actually, a funny thing about ranked is that if you actually perform your job very well, you'll lose less points in defeat and win more in victory than other people, meaning individual performance is taken into account.
This is why you get so many stories about finishing the placement matches with a ton of defeats and still getting Diamond rank.
I once performed so well compared to everyone else I actually won points in a defeat (but just a tidbit).

Come to think of it, if TF2 competitive forced one-class cap, there'd be way more varity in the game since you'd still have Soldier\Demo\Scout\Medic but there'd be 2 odd elements that would have to pick something else.
Then again, the 4 core would probably be enough to pick them apart anyway and those 2 wouldn't greatly affect the game anyway.

Sombra is cute and viable in competitive. Don´t let anyone tell you otherwise.

You are posting the game director for Assassins Creed in the Overwatch thread in a very bad attempt to make it seem like there's an ahluh ackbar working on the game.
Nigger, I hope you don't complain about strawmans ever again…

OH YEAH BUDDY SURE THE 2017 SUMMER GAMES ARE JUUUUUUST AROUND THE CORNER, IT'LL DROP ANY DAY NOW FOR SURE, HEY, MAYBE THEY'LL DO THE CHINESE NEW YEAR EVENT IN OCTOBER, TOO?

You're fucking brain damaged, aren't you?

They've said that events would happen yearly

I fucking hate the "it's just qp" meme, if you don't want to play as a team, go on a custom server, DPS players are the worst, they only do kills, never play objective, then lose and whine about being in a shitty team.

Didn´t Blizzard state themselves that they want to repeat past events for people who have missed it and so they don´t have to constantly think up new events

Yeah, things like Halloween and Christmas you idiot.

For once, the shitposters did good. :D

there's also datamined content from the latest patch that alludes to summer crates and summer skins

The writing's on the wall that the summer games are happening it's entirely a question of if it's going to happen either today/tomorrow or next week.

shut the FUCK up you faggot retart cocksucker

Overwatch thread: Or how I learned to stop worrying about shitposting and love TF2 cuck salt.

forgot your sage

I didn't post a single gondola or bateman. I just argued that retard that knew nothing of the pro scene on life support and had never even heard of OWL, while he personally felated tigole.

Fuck off Mark. You bought this shit and borderline shilled for it. You have no excuse to be above these faggots considering you consider yourself too smart to fall for fallout 4 yet suck down Overcuck cock.

this game is shit and blizzard is shit
shiggy

You are telling filthy lies if you seriously are saying all 24 heroes are used competitively.

Tf2 also has that same hero cap user.

Just hide the thread you dumb nogs, you don't see me saging all the weebshit that gets posted here daily

In TF2 you can go 4 scouts and 2 snipers if you really want to

In Overwatch you can't go more than a single hero on a team outside of custom games

Are you this fucking retarded? It fucking says in the pic itself he is from ubisoft. I actually hoped you were pretending with your other retarded posts but this shit takes the cake.

People on Holla Forums get assmad all the time about games they dislike and feel like the world needs to know about it

oh boy i didn't see that coming

And you faggots have the gall to assume that no one would be upset at this shit. You are giving money to the company that killed Warcraft.

so how much does activision pay? is it per day, or per thread?

In competitive TF2 there is a hero cap. Know your shit user, in fact TF2 had the cap before Overwatch did and OW probably took it from tf2.

Actually we're paid per-shitpost, so about twenty cents gets deposited into my account every time "overcuck" or "blizzdrone" gets posted.

Nobody buys loot boxes user

It pretty much depends on what level you play. I would dare to say until high diamond pretty much every hero can work if it fits the team comp and as long as you can play him. The "meta", everyone talks about, only applies to high level competitive and professional tournaments, anyway. But most people don´t play there.

I'm telling you that if you can't be viable with every hero in competitive, you have no place in there.
Some of them might not be as easy modo as others, but you can indeed make every single one of them viable, especially if you coordinate with your team.

Bet you're one of those stupid faggots that can't play Torb or Sombra against actually competent teams.

Funny thing then that googling the name shows he is working with AssCreed. Specifically Black Flag, the only okay-ish one by the way, good argument you had there.
What takes the cake is you posting an employee of a company that acts only as publisher, who is working on a completely different project, and then try to pretend that he is linked in any meaningfull way with Overwatch.

There's reaching, there's scrapping the bottom of barrel and then there's whatever you're trying to do.

Overwatch's transactions are only for lootboxes that you get for playing the game anyway.

By comparison, TF2 had microtransactions in a game you paid for, for ingame weapons and skins that would gradually consume every future update of the game.

Paladins is shit sorry

Overwatch tends to have a fairly diverse fanbase that tries to appeal to most groups of people. Like as much as people here cry about diversity nobody is forcing you to play as a black hero if you don't want to. There's plenty of Caucasians.

Is there a summary or something where I can prove to retards like that I haven't played the shitty game since June 2016? Why do niggers insist on this shit meme that I absolutely love this game because I delete the spam in these threads? The last time I played it was with a friend and it was when the beta for the first character was announced. I haven't had battlenet downloaded since and only logged in today just to check it so I can tell this nigger to fuck off and stop spamming this thread because it's a shitty fucking game. Rule 8 applies everywhere, just because you don't like the game doesn't mean you spam the thread.

Before Valve fucked with things competitive TF2 was played with a cap of 2 on Scout and Soldier and cap of 1 on everything else. And despite this it's almost always 2 Soldiers, 2 Scouts, 1 Demoman and 1 Medic because TF2 favours the quake-style classes too much.

Unless you're talking Highlander, where people actually complain about the game's balance even more because you can't adjust your team comp to counter the opposition.

What the fuck are you on? I did no such thing, you really are this fucking unfamiliar with imageboards you apply this bullshit logic of yours to a pic attached to a post? This is why we dont want overwatch threads here, they bring faggots like you to this site

And Paladins is not the only fps out there, not like you faggots will ever admit.

Also

Undermeme > Overmeme

at least Undermeme has genesis.

Yeah sure is odd

_:^)_

I'm pretty sure the constant 2x McCree + 2x Winston + 2x Lucio team comps early in the game's life was a big factor in introducing the hero cap.

that doesn't explain opposition deletion. but if I had used those terms, they'd want to preserve their integrity for wages due?

I TRIED STEALING IT

You can play this AND play cheaper\free alternatives.
And that's nigger thinking right there, many of the "alternatives" are far worse anyway, why do you think they are free?

Paladins is cute and all, but it has serious balance issues and needs a lot more polish.
Dirty Bomb is fun too but it has way too much gun autism and it tries to jew you way worse than Overwatch, not to mention appealing to CS:GO autists anyway.

Then why did you post that pic, if not to try and pretend that there is any kind of meaningfull connection? Why do you keep saying dumb shit, expecting everyone to be as dumb and gullible as you are?

you still bought the game, thus you supported blizzard you dumb kike

Gee why would anyone post a pic on an imageboard

Abloo bloo I don't like it so that means it's perfectly acceptable for me to go on an autistic rampage, hop proxies and ban evade, and pretend my opinion is the prevailing majority despite all evidence to the contrary. Also when banned for the rules (which it is perfectly acceptable for me to break when it is a thing I don't like, see my five-post diagram about how thing I don't like will lead to a slippery slope of other things I don't like) I'll claim the mods are siding with shills and other boogeymen and there is no hope for the board anymore.

why were my posts deleted?

Dunno if you can link your Battle.net profile or not, but that may have your "stats" in it that shows how long you played the game.

I'm telling Blizzard :^)

Actually, it was more the 6 bastions.

:^)

Slice it however you want, you are fag enablers.

If it's the gondola then it was someone else.

Overwatch threads are great for determining the population of autistic manbabies on this board that would rather bitch about a video game than, you know, go play some video games.

I meant in "pro" play, but yeah that too

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Hello Goon.

My brother stole Overshit and he's not a jew. What's your excuse?

FTFY

Free to play games especially tend to jew customers significantly more and over a longer period of time.

You can see it with how TF2 would continuously add broken weapons to the game that Valve would suspiciously nerf a few weeks later. As if they didn't know giving the Pyro a flamethrower he could taunt and get instant crits with wasn't broken.

With a free to play game there's an incentive to jew the customer and to treat them like a wallet. The entire "game" aspect of it is just a bait and switch to bleed more mone yout of them.

I got caught

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REPLY TO ME NIGGA

In defense of Blizzard :^) it wasn't actually their idea to add loot crates.
Rather, they had a lot of people seriously worried that there'd be "nothing to work towards". Seriously, they had players in their forums pre-beta complaining that the game did not had a Skinner's box.

You can blame the loot crates on the new gaymer generation, at least this one wasn't on Blizzard.
Which is fucking weird considering the shekel magic trick that is Hearthstone and the RMAH in Diablo 3.

Yeah I remember that. Like I said I'm glad they made it something you could just get by playing the game. To the point where even if you buy a lootbox all you're doing is appealing to your own impatience.

I trust you now, you fat jew.
Actually manage to live up to your ancestors and steal it next time.

Don't feed the trolls, Marks. I didn't think I'd need to tell you this, of all people.

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To be fair the current generation blindly accepts these kike tier scams but conditioned retards can at most take partial blame because normalfags should be shamed into having basic money sense.

You're right, but it's aggravating when people say you LOVE a game when you really wish you didn't try to steal it and then buy it when the lady at the counter who also knows your father tells you "Hey Mark, you almost ran out of the store with the game in your bag. Please bring it to the register." and then when you try to do a chargeback, gamestop despites the charge with a receipt. The game is run of the mill, not good, not bad. but I haven't played it in a solid year and don't plan to play it again.

I hope Kerns game turns out alright.

I'm probably not gonna try physically stealing a game again after that embarrassment

You can't just say this and not tell us the story, Mark. We need to know what happened.

I wouldn't like what they have to say either when all they have to say is "u mad blizzcucks? sage >overcucks are THIS butthurt"

I look at this video and I don't see grown men here.
I see a bunch of uneducated kids (mentally, because they don't have the age to keep acting like that) who have no skill other than playing videogames, placing a lot more value in virtual shit than they should all because nothing else in their life actually matters to them or anyone.

Then I go to work and hear a collegue, who really shouldn't be doing shit like this anymore, telling me how he has a knife worth 150$ in a locked account in CS because he cheated to grind rewards in order to get it and he's really pissed that he can't sell the knife to buy more videogames.

So when a company tells me "You can play the full game and unlock stuff just by playing it and having fun", you can be sure I'll give them my money because I sure as fuck wish more people did this.

If the Premium Status in TF2 awarded keys for playing the game instead of just crates, if Dirty Bomb was all about buying shiny cards for unique weapons and if CS:GO wasn't all about grinding crates that you still gotta pay to open and then even use what you get from them…
Maybe this generation wouldn't be so fucking retarded.

And this goes double for everyone taking their videogames so seriously they feel the need to start a crusade against one

Actually my argument is why would anyone willing give money to current year actiblizz? Everyone in support of this game can't seem to come up with a single answer. These people want this kind of garbage out of their hobby, are you THAT shocked there is pushback or are you just pretending to be retarded?

Okay so here's the story, so as you know I tried to do a chargeback on the game and got caught by the bank since gamestop disputed it with proof of purchase. However before that, I tried to slip a PC copy of Overmeme into my bag, so the manager of the store notices me and says "Mark, you forgot to bring the game to the register. Let me help you out." mind you this same manager used to work with my father, my mother was also sick with cancer and we were all worried about her well being, so to avoid drama I bought the game and figured I could do a chargeback later. Then I called up the bank and tried to do a chargeback
so I figured I'd play the game a few times with a few friends since it was the talk of the town at the time.

A few months later I see a -120 dollars for an xboner controller and overmeme. I called up the bank to see what happened, and then sent me a picture of the receipt and last christmas I was kicked from the bank.

Anyway to end the story, I'll just say that shit wasn't worth it.

You actually tried to steal a fucking Blizzard game?
The fuck is wrong with you?

I wanted to try the game and I didn't wanna give modern blizzard my shekels.

Being interested in the game doesn't necessarily mean you support the parent-company I guess.
I'm not shocked there's pushback but it is funny watching people shut their brains off after hearing who the developer is and not actually talk about the game itself. I despise Nintendo but I don't go into an autistic frenzy and shitpost in Wario threads pretending Wario games are bad on the sole merit that they were developed by Nintendo like some of the posters itt for instance.

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You should try to use some of that e-celeb fame. "Hey, I'm the admin for a very popular forum about videogames, if you give me a copy of this, I'll put in a few good words for the game, ey?"

Actiblizz is not some gigantic entity that works entirely in all of it's projects. It's the sum of it's parts but each part works mostly individually.

The team assigned to Overwatch has little to do with HotS or Hearthstone or Diablo or Starcraft or anything else made by Activision either.
Buying Overwatch instead of Hearthstone is supporting an actual different team and design decision.
It's essentially saying "give me the full gameplay, don't make me buy contents of it later that penalize me for not having them now"

Why? Was Jesus there? :^)

The actual game itself is cancer too because it fuses multiplayer FPS with ASSFAGGOTS elements. Now we will see more of this shit happen in the FPS genre

that's just fucking shameful kek

And when has doing it for free for a company like this been a good thing?

And how many shekels does Actiblizz take before the devs see the profits? Besides, plenty of games do that now. Some more than others but considering the baggage that comes with overcuck overwatch many are baffled why someone would even consider a purchase, let alone defending it on an anonymous online electric roman stone tablet.

Don't try to sugarcoat the fact you tried to steal a fucking video game by falling back on the piracy mindset. If you were caught pirating the game then nobody would give a fuck since it doesn't involve actual legitimate theft of a physical product. But you tried to walk out of a FUCKING GAMESTOP under the eye of someone that worked with one of your folks and got caught. And then lied to your bank.

Have you tried just being a normalfag yet, or did that ship sail already and I can add that to the checklist of shit you can't do right?

see

Let me just moan in peace

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You can attack the competition all you want, it's not going to change how shitty your employers are. You shills will never understand this

Buying a game (Overwatch) means you support the parent-company (Activision-Blizzard). Only a retard would not understand this. As for talking about Overwatch itself, all potential discussion about the game has already been had. This is because it has the depth of a puddle, which is entirely the point of it in the first place since it was made with normalfag retards in mind. You can try discussing what makes the game oh so compelling, then when anons lay out why you're lying you can say 'It's not like that really :^)' or something to that effect

I'm not sure that's going to work out, then again I haven't looked into it whatsoever.

I will always dispute this claim as one of the dumbest ideas you can post in these threads.

Unreal Tournament has a weapon called the Translocator. It allows for short-range teleportation to a disc you fire and it's essential for CTF maps.
However since it's a weapons, you need to switch between whatever you are using and the translocator to use it.

Meanwhile, Tracer has a simpler version of it that can instead be activated with a key, instead of requiring a special weapon for that purpose only.
It is essentially the same thing but way less cumbersome to use and fundamentally that's all Skills are. A way to give you more options that aren't all tied to a weapon you need to switch around.

You have already seen this before in TF2 with Demo's Shield, the drinks for the Scout or his sub-weapons and even the many snacks for Heavy all having a cooldown too and fundamentally changing how they play the game, Demo specifically since you could activate that at any time with R-Click.

And it's not even that new, there was a multiplayer attempt at Shadowrun that looked pretty cool (but butchered the entire story, lore and settings) where you could Teleport by tapping a key and a direction including up and down.

Moreover, the worst parts of MOBA's are not the skills and the ultimates but rather the grinding and the economy that make the game incredibly stale and play out the same way always, giving it a very slow and inneficient snowballing effect that makes for some atrocious 20 minutes at first for everyone and some horrible 20 minutes in lategame for one team.
None of these problems are present in Overwatch, so the comparison with MOBA's and trying to claim it's bad because of that falls flat right there.

I don't disagree with your post I'll just point out Sombra has an ability that's virtually identical to the translocator in UT99. Specifically she can throw a projectile and then teleport back to that location with a button press. By comparison Tracer teleports back to where she was 3 seconds earlier.

That's a different question, mate. Leave the goal posts where they are, we can talk about that next if you want.
Regardless of how much money the devs get, if Blizzard sees more coming their way from Overwatch than from Heartstone, that's a pretty solid message that goes up the corporate vine since money is all they care about in the end.

Hardly. Most games, if not all, have their cosmetics always locked behind paywalls without an option to grind for them, except for the few ugly ones that nobody wants.

No I don't.

I have a reddit account that was never used other than to bitch about vivian james, I never paid 10 bucks you lying nigger

Pirated Diablo 3 was, or may still be, a thing. I can't see the same working with Overwatch but I've also not looked into it at all so who knows.

I like how you call it the dumbest idea ever and then in the same post admit it has elements of ASSFAGGOTS but its totally ok because they are not the bad elements.

iirc in the other threads you posted in you said you had an SA account
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You are defending a company that has a dev you like under their thumb. You are acting like a biodrone who can't come to terms that the parent company is slowly killing the talent. Even then, other are right in saying that the game is shallow compared to other fps games. Also, how the fuck did I move the goal post? I'm pointing out how you are supporting a parent company that will continue to push kike tier bullshit with other western companies following suit. Simply put, you are a fag enabler. Simple as that.

I was never in the >other threads

I never even played the game since last year

i meant the few threads you last posted in, excluding the overcuck threads

I post in many threads, not once did I say that I EVER had a Something Awful account. I may have DENIED it, but I never said I had one.

do people with downs go on Holla Forums now?

You are posting in an overwatch thread and defending that piece of garbage while blatantly ignoring the ASSFAGGOTS elements the game has. Your entire previous post was picking out two parts of ASSFAGGOTS and then saying those are bad and overwatch doesnt have them. So you're saying overwatch doesnt have any ASSFAGGOTS influences in it? Because I thought you were just downplaying it like the blizzdrone you are but apparently you are flat out denying it

Shit, I completely forgot about Sombra (who doesn't?), her's is a much better comparison indeed.
Tracer, I was more specifically talking about the Blink.

It has the elements that don't actually ruin the genre (skills, team composition), while avoiding the elements that actually ruin the whole game (xp\gold farming, power creep and snowballing vs turrets)
If you couldn't even read that from that post… That's pretty retarded but expected from you.

Stop that, I'm not. If I was I'd be telling you to buy every single one of the games done by them.
Diablo 3, Starcraft and Hearthstone are nothing short of lessons about "Don't do this shit, nigga!" for vydia developers. HotS ends up being a bit less bad than the standard fare of MOBA's but since the genre is flawed by design anyway, it isn't good either.
Overwatch is the only game by them that's worth some attention and as such I do defend buying it to pass the message of "Do less of that shit, do more of this shit".

If Diablo 3 was more like Overwatch, there'd be no RMAH and the Necromancer would be a free update.
If Hearthstone was more like Overwatch, you'd get packs with every card from the start and shiny versions of cards from boxes only.
If Starcraft was more like Overwatch, everyone would have the same content, the story wouldn't be as bad And you'd be able to buy tophats for the zerglings

On the other hand, if you don't buy anything, you're not saying anything at all. You can be safely ignored as you're not a customer anyway, so they'll look to the shitlickers that buy everything made by them and keep doing it because apparently that's all people like anyway.

You're not supposed to shut your brain off like that after I brought it up as something I found hilarious.

Monetarily and one time, at best. Wouldn't the majority of the money be going to the publisher?
The few posts here in the waves of shitposting would suggest against that. I should think it would be the place of anons who actually discuss the video game to decide whether discussion has dried up and not anons with a clear bias. Hell, Undertale threads went rather peaceably up until memelords were the only posters remaining, explicitly because there actually wasn't anything to talk about, then they were banned because the memelords were trying to extend threads past their natural lifespan for EPIC genesis posting. Coincidentally they had the same "you mad undercucks? get off of my Holla Forums nobody likes you" type of posters towards the end of the threads' lifespan even had a lot of the same crying about SJWs, Tumblr, how the creator was clearly a supporter of leftist dogma and the gay agenda after attention shifted to it as a board-ruiner boogeyman and the game's larger fanbase degenerated into Twitter memelords and streamers.
Going by my occasional skims through these threads (up to and including this one) it's a shit-ton of assmad (1) and done sages trying to tell people that actually play the game what the game is about, then a core cabal of vocal autists who conflate the parent company with the game itself and therefore the game is bad picks up the slack once most of the (1)s are satisfied with their threadly shitpost, and fall back on "you mad blizzcucks?" responses if pushed into talking about the game itself in any depth.

I'm not saying you are defending a company outright but you are giving them your shekels telling them that this is an IP you would like to see milked to death. You are trying to assume the best of the devil.
Funny coming from a kike. :^)

The only reason i even play this trash game is because it's the only thing my yuri-addled younger sister consistently enjoys playing, and junkrat's kinda fun, but 1 good character out of 25 pieces of shit does not make an okay game.

You are pretending you know anything about game design or why assfaggots is bad just so you can leverage a non-critic at Overwatch and making a fool of yourself.
Call me when Heroes in Overwatch gain XP with kills and see their damage increase with Level Ups.
Call me when Heroes in Overwatch gain gold from farming Omnics coming to their base and can use said gold to buy items that make them have much better stats than the oposing team.
Call me when Overwatch sees an early game where you can pretty much win any and all teamfight and yet you can't finish the game because there's turrets in the way, forcing the game to last for more 30 minutes, despite already knowing very well who's going to win.

Call me when you actually understand why ASSFAGGOTS is bad instead of treating it like yet another generic buzzword to label on things you don't like and pretend you actually have an argument there.

Summer's taken full effect

Now fight

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Which is it, then? :^)

Well, yes. I would like to see more heroes, more maps and more gamemodes. Doesn't that mean I should support them if I want to see more of this game?
I mean, that's the whole basis behind the free market and capitalism after all.

junkrat is the only character that you can have fun with even if you lose, he's just that funny

He didn't said they don't have "moba elements", why would we fight? Rather he agrees that Overwatch lacks the grind and the economy elements that make ASSFAGGOTS fundamentally broken, a point you've yet to acknowledge at all.

Good marketing but is the:
Anything, worth anything anymore?

If I start playing the game? Do I get some boosts to get me to the tier that the addicted get?

???

If you're talking about getting crates, the few levels are fairly fast to get to the point you'll likely have one crate per game played, especially if you do well and win.
There's also the arcade part that gives you crates for winning games there on top of regular rewards, if you really care about that.

Unless you mean ranked, where you don't have much to worry. The algorythm seems to be fairly decent and will quickly put you against equally skilled oponents.

Holy shit it is goons.

Shut the fuck up you fucking kike.

I say defend as in you are trying to advocate that giving money to a company that will bleed an IP dry is a terrible decision. You are under the assumption Actiblizz will allow the devs of this game to not add more microtransactions in lieu of actual content. They will devote time and effort to dlc instead of actual content. Their past record has shown this to be the case and this sort of shit is consistent considering the current fanbase of those games.
At the very least buy the game used so you deny the parent company their precious shekels while letting the devs know that there is a fanbase out there.
This is coming from a guy who jewed a nig out of his copy of titanfall 2. That game will be the closest thing I get to a proper Virtual-On sequel. Feels real bad, man.

The only thing I hate more than Overcuck and Blizzard are hebes, and Blizzard is full of them.

Ok, you seem like a bot, but I believe you. I like getting loot, like anything you do you get loot. A lot of loot, random loot. It's good. Loot Loot Loot. So good. Loot, Loot, Loot, random loot, skinner boxed, skinner boxed, loot skinner boxed, loot, skinner boxed.

I should have done something more with my time, with my life, with my money. But they don't wan't that. They want you miserable, just barely above slavery, just barely above human.

Stop, and read a book.

Every company does this, every IP ends up like that. If there's more money to be made, more content will be made for it, if there isn't the game dies.

You have yet to explain why this is bad to begin with, or basically to explain why a company investing more time in something that gives them more money while the fans invest money into a company that gives them more content for a game they like is bad.

And you're under the assumption of the oposite, so that's not an argument.

What is an actual argument is story!
The Summer event saw the release of skins that could only be obtained from boxes you got or bought during that event.
However after that, the Halloween event saw costumes that you can actually buy with in-game currency, showing they actually are reducing the importance of buying loot crates.
History does not support your fear mongering user…

How much do people have to pay for Orisa, for Doomfist, for Sombra, for Ana, for the new maps, for the new gamemodes, etc, etc?
Oh right. Yet another point where history contradicts your fear mongering.

For other games. That I'm saying you shouldn't support. But you seem unable to understand the difference here since it's all just one big boogeyman and paying for Overwatch is the same as buying Starcraft 2 for you because all you care about is how much money Blizzard gets, not what games or devs you support.
You are retarded and you shouldn't be allowed to have a wallet.

See, this is what I'm talking about. Used companies don't register anywhere but the shop where you bought it, if even that.
As far as the company and the devs know, it's still one (1) person playing the game, even if it's someone else now. That is NOT how you support a dev.

Cleverbot is that you?

Fuck me you're autistic and sound like you're from reddit it seems overwatch fags cant convey a point either. Loot does not matter for this game its just a bonus that you can get for FREE just for leveling up. Also I'm not a blizzdrone, I hate Blizzard and never even touched a single game of theirs aside from this one. I believe they've finally managed something good but are quickly driving it to the ground. At best if anyones contenplating purchasing it get a physical copy off ebay for $20 or less if you're lucky so you dont support blizz.

So we should accept it? Sounds like a pretty terrible way to go about it. And the holiday give away trick is older than the internet. How many new skins were announced after those events? How often were the rare ones given away compared to the common ones. TF2 had plenty of events like this but that didn't stop them from still squeezing shekels from the fanbase.
Nice way to side step the point. I'm talking about the manpower devoted to actually creating the dlc vs them releasing a product they can say is complete. They are drip feeding you features, that's an MMO tier scheme to keep people hooked on a product.
I'm not saying you are supporting SC2 you fat kike, i'm saying you are giving shekels to the same people who call the shots when it comes to stripping content down and reselling and slowly feeding it to the fanbase. Buying it used shows the devs that there is a fanbase for their product, but
For a kike, you really are a damn good goyim.

Because its been like that since forever, they wont just decide to stop when they can jew you out of money.
4 heroes for almost an year a half, probably some low effort game map, we all know they are garbage, and some pre-existing game modes finally put in. And how many skins came out?
phaha holy shit, goon
Someone post the pic where a guy is thinking it wont be shit like last time when there is an ass over his plate.

I mean, this is straying from the point, but the game has been out for a year, and it has at most, four maps per gamemode, with five gamemodes, not counting seasonal events. I will give it the fact that it has an arcade, with those gimmicky modes, sure. And they have added, what, four heroes, in one year of time?

But, a game like Titanfall 2, that has been out for a shorter time, and pulled in a hundred times less dosh, has 14 maps playable in any game mode, of which there are six ( i think) and a rotating, arcade like mode of which there are five, at least. It also has five maps, playable in it's own mode, and an additional two maps for a 1v1 mode. The game also received a 4 player co-op mode, a new titan, and a few new weapons. All of which, were also completely free.

And a free to play piece of shit, Paladins, has since it's release into open beta on Steam some, 10 months ago , released over 15 characters, having 29 at this point, all of which have three "variations", all of which have builds you can customize.

All in all, what blizzard has done with the amount of money they raked in, in the time they had, is honestly, pretty fucking pathetic.

I'm off to play vido game. Try not to get swindled out of your cakes you fat kike.
And at least you had some points but I still believe that buying this game supports more dlc tier garbage just like I believe amiibos foster the same cancerous bullshit that is plaguing my hobby.

The thing with maps is they tend to be hesitant to release them because whenever they do the community hates the new maps.

A good example is Eichenwalde since when it was released the community despised it and it forced Blizzard to make major modifications to it's layout. Another is the recent Horizon lunar colony map which has a dedicated fanbase that will leave games that play it. The biggest solution to this isn't releasing new maps but rather the map editor but they haven't done this yet. They've alluded to wanting to do it twice but said they were more interested in adding replay features and other things to the engine.

In terms of adding new heroes, Blizzard has stated they don't feel like they should add new heroes just for the sake of adding them. Most of the heroes in Paladins are just slight variations and aren't as distinctive as the ones in Overwatch in terms of playstyle.

And all of that for free. Let´s face it. By every other company this would have been a season pass for at least 50 dollars.

I mean, I don't know what to say, in that case, maybe they should try making a good map?

That's not really true, sure they're less varied than heroes in overwatch, but they're not just slight variations. Sure there's some overlap, like both of the assault rifle characters, but, you can still, build Paladins characters differently. Mercy is always Mercy, while the furfag squirrel from paladins can be built to focus on healing, or to be a flanker because he has great mobility.

But that doesn't matter in the slightest. It's just cosmetic bullshit, that doesn't add anything to the gameplay, really.

you payed 60 or what ever for a ftp tier game you retard

On the issue of map design in different types of games, it's easier to make maps for games like Titanfall and Paladins because of how those games work. Paladins has objective based maps but they are symmetrical so they really only have to design half of a pretty basic map and mirror it. Titanfall maps are not designed around objectives, they're random jumbles of bits that don't really have to be balanced because people just spawn randomly and roam randomly, so long as they make each bit interesting to move through the overall design of the level don't really matter.

A better comparison would be another asymmetrical, objective oriented game like Rainbow Six Siege which managed to add five maps in the same time it took Blizzard to add three and all of those maps are better balanced, more complex and better received by the playerbase than the ones Overwatch got. Overwatch's map support post release has been shit, but you need to compare apples to shitty apples.

What people classify as a "good map" is intensely subjective. A lot of the time it's over perceived imbalances due to specific hero compositions. Like "this map is unbalanced because everyone just runs these heroes and sweeps constantly." or stuff that they only really discover over mass player testing like how the map favors a particular side due to an entrance in the map every player goes through.

The other thing with Paladins is you need to purchase your heroes, that's another thing.

They've spoken extensively about how they don't want to add things like new weapons and stuff that would build characters differently and there's a lot of compelling arguments for why. Namely that it will break balance and make balance 10 times harder to do.

But ontop of that, Overwatch is a game where you need to rely on your teammates. Adding new abilities for heroes makes it less easy to gauge a character's potential threat and enables a player to rely less on his/her teammates. This is a problem TF2 had with it's unlockable weapons.

Game was 40 at launch

the game gives you all of the heroes for free. Every hero based shooter that is free to play sells you them separately or in TF2's case sells you weapons and shit separately.

Is there a name for this kind of turbo autism?

Accept what? Just what exactly are you REALLY railing against here?
A company makes a game and puts it for sale. If it makes money, they'll make more, if it doesn't they won't, that's all there is to it.

This is why Populous saw several games while Theme Hospital and Startopia didn't, this is why CoD and AssCreed keep seeing yearly iterations while standard indie shit doesn't get a reboot. This is just the natural run of things, they come and they go, those that get support just stay for longer.
I repeat, what is bad or unnatural about any of this? And why won't you answer this?

You missed the point.
Currently you can't buy the Summer Festival skins at all, you either got them or you didn't. But Halloween costumes can be bought with ingame credits you get for repeats so you can get them outside of Halloween and without needing to buy Halloween crates.

No, actually. That was your point, that they'd make DLC instead of new content that they'd charge you for, which is not at all what happened and we got a ton of free content instead.
The game shipped complete with more than 20 heroes and several maps, they are adding on top of it. It's no more "drip feeding" than the Shivering Isles were for Oblivion for instance.
A product people already paid for, there's no monthly subscription to motivate that "scheme". You keep alluding to things and then posting something that contradicts them…

I said "buying", not "supporting", re-read again with less rage this time.
And no, you're saying I'm supporting the company as a whole. You make no distinction over buying Overwatch instead of Starcraft 2, it all has the same result for you apparently, supporting Blizzard, despite passing distinct messages to them, even if it's just what's popular, shooters or RTS.

Unless you have some hot leaks about how Orissa and Sombra were already in development when the beta for the game dropped, I'm calling bullshit.
And again, I'll make the comparison that Shivering Isles was not removed from Oblivion to be sold later, but rather created after the main game was done and sold.

How? The funny man at Gamestop will call them and say "Hey, a kid just passed here and bought a used copy. I though you guys would like to know"?
It's still the same copy circulating around, being sold second hand is no different than giving it to a cousin, it's still the same game that has already been bought.

BTW, great idea buying a game that's tied to a BNet account second-hand, especially a multiplayer one.

Leaderboards are the things where shops report the number of units sold, but they don't count "used games" there actually since it's the same copy being "sold" twice.
The internet is a funny place where you apparently can find any convenient information despite never giving sources and that you'll never doubt as long as it confirms your bias apparently.

Check 'em

They have a playerbase that mandated a skinner's box to be added to their game.
Consider that before thinking that community input is a good solution to produce content for the game.

During the Beta there was a time where they released 3 heroes at the same time. Genji, Dva and Mei if I'm not mistaken.
There was a massive shitstorm because nobody knew how to play against them and they had to adjust against 3 different new heroes at the same time, so they decided from them onwards to only release 1 hero at a time and give a lot of time for the playerbase to get used to it.

This is fucking stupid of course, you shouldn't take more than a few hours to understand a hero and come up with plans against him, but again… That's the majority of their playerbase. That they don't listen to them most of the time is actually a good thing.

It is. There is only a few exception for characters like scout. The rest are 1.
Overwatch is no more balanced competitively than tf2 and has far less depth.

Do you have an actual argument or is that just an offhand statement?

Now, it released at 60 on console and 40 PC without the special skins, even then that is way too much for a game that is basically set up to be a free to play game.

It's not. Competitive restricts heroes picking. Even then Overwatch is still horribly unbalanced and you see the same few heroes over and over and many aren't played at all. You also have the fact that each hero has far less depth than the TF2 classes.

And how is it set up to be a f2p game? Free to play means that you can play the game for free but you have to put money into it in order to progress through the unlock system in an acceptable pace.

Overwatch on the other hand doesn´t even have an unlock system except for cosmetics. And you can buy them with ingame currency anyway. So how does your sentence even make sense? It seems to me that you shout random buzzwords like f2p because they have a negative connotation but you don´t even know what these terms actually mean.

If you meant that statement in the way that Overwatch costs too much money for the content it delivers, then this still doesn´t have anything to do with the game "being set up for free to play".

Nope. There are many F2P games like dota where you don't get in game bonuses for paying but instead cosmetic stuff. That is basically Overwatch except you have to pay money before playing.

Gotcha. I finished the chart, too.

Should be the first reply in every OW thread tbh

Have stopped reading there. I don´t need to continue to know that this guy is full of crap.

Apparently they fixed some of the issues so these faggots will go and disregard the entire thing because of that, just wait and see

But this is true. Video evidence proves this.

Looks like I was already too late, like fucking clockwork.

kek

Not quite. The F2P model has two parts:

Overwatch's cosmetic loot crates are exactly the kind of thing you'd find in a F2P game, since they offer shiny stuff to people who are willing to shell out real money and separate users into distinct classes: those who are willing to pay for virtual finery and those who aren't.

There's no progression system to be bypassed with money, but that in and of itself is not the qualifying factor as to whether a game is F2P or not. F2P is a simple description of an often-abused business model (one which happens to have almost no good games under its belt), not a condemnation in and of itself.

Unless you prefer your games finished and content-complete. Which you should.

I don't want to be an asshole who posts his own stuff all the time but nobody else ever does it.

They were perfectly willing to take your money for the game before they fixed it.

And? Free to play is a busines model. Either a game has it or it doesn´t. Your statement still doesn´t make any sense. And how is Overwatch costing money a bad thing? As long as it has enough content, you should be glad, because this way BRR Huey hueys and russian cheaters won´t even be able to afford it.

Dude, i played this game for one year. I even tested the hitboxes myself. I give a crap about your "video evidence". For hitscan weapons the hitbox is roughly the same size as the character model. The projectiles have a slightly larger radius because of balancing reasons. The only weird stuff i encountered, was while shooting from the back against heroes with forward leaning body stances like Lucio and Winston. Because it´s really hard to get a headshot on these heroes from this particular angle.

Hardly a restriction when the only classes that get 2 slots instead of just 1 are also the ones that the "competitive community" picks more than once.
It feels a lot more they saw what meta they were going with and made the rules conforming to that instead of the other way around.
It should have been 1 Scout and 1 Soldier limit so you'd have 2 guys playing something other than the main 4, but you know very well why that doesn't happen.

Except you can't buy cosmetics directly, only boxes. And even then, Dota2 might be the only example you got going there because every other game has the very characters you play with locked behind paywalls that you can grind through.
And let's not pretend that the only reason Dota2 gives you all characters is because that was the default for Dota and to keep that argument over LoL.

Apparently they didn't fixed some of the issues so these faggots will go and pretend everything is still relevant because of that, just wait and see.

Outdated video. You can also find clips showing the hero selection where there's no Orisa. Does that mean you can't play her now?

When TF2 first launched the developers specifically intended specific heroes would be played more often than others, with some relegated to very situational roles like the Spy. A good example is they stated that the Soldier was a "core class" that should naturally be picked more. Overwatch has a bunch of this as well where there are clearly heroes that are meant to be picked by newer players (Soldier76) but there are also significantly harder heroes to master like Hanzo that are in many ways more rewarding to actually play

Medic

Mercy

Pyro

Mei

There's even more than this too. Most of the depth people bring up about characters in TF2 are "well you need to rocket jump as soldier" or "sticky jumping is harder as demoman compared to Junkrat" as if launching yourself farther being harder = depth

It's a free to play business model in that it is a full priced game that has loot boxes that you can pay for just like in a Free to play game which is bullshit.
So you are a drone then

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I fucking hate these threads and only come for the shitposting so I wouldn't post them either sadly.

Which are worse. It's worse to have random boxes than letting someone buy an item outright.
You have to prove that it got fixed. Either way that was still a problem
It is. You can't pick most heroes more than once. Either way Overwatch is horribly unbalanced and you can't play most of the team in competitive if you want to win.

You are falling for it, he specifically picked the issue they fixed out of the entire list of shit things. He will never adress the issues with the game listed in the pics, he will just deflect deflect deflect

I don't even like Overwatch, but I think it's time for some new material, fam. Does /owg/ even exist still? I'm desperately hoping to see how they've been embarrassing themselves in CURRENT_YEAR

Except you're forgetting a very important detail…
You can buy every single cosmetic with ingame currency and even get them for free with regular loot crates too.

The f2p model you describe mandates that all extra content to be sold is locked behind a paywall with no other option to be adquired but paying for it, something that's not true for Overwatch.

It also requires that the game give you basic cosmetics that look ugly as sin and constantly flash all the cool shit you can buy in sub-menu's. Optionally it will also provide items you can buy to speed up grinding.
All of these can be found in Planetside 2 for instance (a game played here on Holla Forums that saw little to no shitposting despite the blatant jewery behind it) and none of it can be found in Overwatch.

You might want to refrain from posting that image too often. The guy posting in it is already acting like an idiot, you wouldn't want to make the same mistake…

Thanks, your entire argument is that Overwatch is balanced but so is TF2. All you did was show that both games don't work competitively. Overwatch still has less depth though.

this is like saying CSS has more depth than CS Go because of the Awp animation cancel glitch

Funny thing is that they didn't "fix" the issue. Many objects still have fucked hit boxes like Hogs Hook or any non hitscan weapon.

It´s neither full priced nor am i forced to pay with actual money for anything. You´re reaching really hard right now.

Yeah, checking stuff for myself and not believing random funny internet jpgs makes me a drone. top notch logic there.

WHAT A GLORIOUS BUMPLOCK

You aren't forced to pay for anything in dota 2 but it is still a F2P game with a F2P model. You are the one reaching.

Good thread. Haven't seen shitposting debate of this caliber since I called a guy a faggot for liking traps.

I didn't say that I'm pointing out your argument for why the game is unbalanced being based on how some heroes are picked more than others is shit

Didn't say that

opinion discarded

Overwatch's determined travel arc for projectiles and sticky jumps shows little depth the game has. Being able to rocket jump with different trajectories does matter.

Well shit, I guess its my fault for giving them the benefit of doubt and believe they actually fixed the hitboxes. Fucking drones

But you did show it. Both games don't work competitively and you showed why.

I'd say there would be nothing to debate because you were absolutely right but then I remembered where we are

Terminal cancer. Even the kids I went to high school with knew not to do that.

Oh, you're illiterate; that explains it. No, that is not what I described. What I described was the OPPORTUNITY for buying stuff with real money, often encouraged through design and/or advertising. Overwatch has this in spades.

pick one and only one.

Yeah, it´s free to fucking play because you can play it for fucking free. So how does this translate to Overwatch which i buy once and have everything from the beginning? You´re basically complaining that Huey monkeys and cyka blyats can´t play Overwatch, which is only a bad thing if you´re one of them. And i hope you aren´t

Can summer please end?

This has actually changed as the game has evolved. A good example is how at the beginning of 2017 Winston was considered a trash pick.

However more recently he's become one of the most picked heroes due to a specific strategy called Dive comp. Which revolves around him.

I stated that some heroes are picked more than others. And I gave reasons. There are very few actual "trash picks" in Overwatch (aside from Sombra)

Like for instance Soldier76 is more straight forward. Hanzo is significantly harder to actually play but people loyally cling to him because they find his bow/arrow combo more satisfying

Even the hardest support character to play Ana, has a low pick rate in quickplay but a high pick rate in competitive specifically because she has significantly more utility purposes than the other healers and can shut down ultimates.

It's worse having a free oportunity for content than having to pay for it? What jewish trick is this…

Nah, you have to prove it's still a problem. Burden of proof and all that.
And it wasn't a problem, it was how they were making Hanzo viable since they though "he's not hitscan so arrows must be large to compensate or nobody will pick him over Soldier".
It was a balancing issue, not a bug and it was patched later (for PC only, I think) since the "buff" was clearly not needed.

Except nobody plays anything besides Demo\Soldier\Scout\Medic. You could state a team could bring 6 Heavies or 0 Snipers and it wouldn't change anything in how people play the game.
Demo and Medic also have diminishing returns so a second one would be pointless.
The only "heroes" you can pick more than once just happen to be the ones that the meta dictates you must bring 2 of them as well. Coincidence?
Nah, it's more that rules are made to accomodate the meta instead of the other way around.

Don't forget that TF2 is a game centered around medium-range combat so moving a few more inches forward or backward really has no impact.

You have to pay for cosmetics in Dota2, there's no other way around it.

Thing is if you buy Overwatch you're stuck with all the other retards who bought Overwatch

No, user actual videos.

I am complaining that a game that costs money has a F2P type business model where I have to grind or pay for cosmetics. Dota does this as well but it is free to play. There is no defending loot boxes.

But you dont

This is so retarded and yet you keep saying this word without defining it. I guess it's OK for overwatch to have no depth at all because hurr durr game sense.

TF2 especially after it started putting unlocks into the game turned from a casual team fps that didn't hold a candle to TFC, to a broken game where you don't have to rely on any of your teammates at all.

Like you can see it with how Valve would later add unlocks to some classes specifically to make them more viable to casual players who don't give a shit about team composition or strategy like the Gunslinger so you can play as a "battle engie" or the Blutsauger so you can play as a "battle medic".

It rather shows how little you know. Junkrat can have different jumping arcs depending on the position of the mine when he activates it and Pharah can use the Concussive Blast to get horizontal speed, depending where she hits.
Both these characters can get different trajectories for their movement, just because you don't play the game it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I mean, even Soldier can rocketjump with his alt fire and Mei has a lot of cool spots she can reach with her wall while also bringing teammates, there's far better movement in Overwatch than you give it credit for and most of it is far more fun than TF2. Mercy's GA ability beats 125% speed any day in terms of fun.

Or you can get them dropped. Same in league.
No you idiot, it's a shitty Skinnerbox technique. Tf2 is better because it lets you randomly get items OR buy them. In Overwatch you only get the random crate shit.

This may be true, but it´s also a extremely minor flaw of the game, considering that you can completely ignore it. But it shows how few arguments you people actually have, if you have to autistically stretch this single small point over a whole thread.

Ftfy

Gamesense is a concept that has existed since Quake. It means being aware of what is going on in the match and adapting to it. And not just pointing and shooting.

If you watch a pro match in Overwatch players will generally do things that come across as retarded like committing suicide when they're the last player alive specifically because it's better to spawn with the rest of your teammates and push as a team and not just try and get kills. This never occurs in TF2 outside of playing Medic to just try and get back to the spawn room quicker.

In TF2 you play as a more generalist character who plays more solo. In Overwatch if one of your teammates isn't doing very well he will lose the game for your team. Which is not really a thing in TF2 where a single teammate can just carry the entire game.

They are all predetermined though. It isn't actually based on physics and can't be skillfully used because of how limited they are.

The demoman and soldier can both do that with a single weapon. They didn't need to give the soldier an alternate fire button to let him rocket jump vertically or horizontally.

The fact a full priced game has half it's content in stupid crate shit is a huge flaw.

On you mean something tf2 and most games have?
This isn't a bad thing, it means if someone is really good they can defeat worse players. Overwatch doesn't have a high skill ceiling so that isn't possible.

I have 234 items without spending a single shekels, just from playing, and without using the magic steam bux system.

You forgot The Black Box for Soldier for self-healing so you'd never die while roaming around alone. You could even "peak" corners by shooting a rocket there and seeing if it healed you and once they changed it to heal a percentage of damage, the Direct Hit became far worse.

Also every single healing item, the Demo healing him if he collects a head (and combining this with the Tide Turner) etc, that only made the game worse with all the Heavies wasting time with sandviches when I could have charged 20% uber with their missing health instead.

It works exactly as the stickies in TF2. Activating just above it sends you up, activating it at an angle sends you in a diagonal, activating it when you're about to land in front of it sends you mostly forward. You can even place it on walls for horizontal speed and it's part of the combo to re-mine on air.

Except Pharah's Concussive Blast also does more than just give her more air time, giving her more utility and Demoman uses a sticky launcher, it's a second weapon. Are you drunk?

Gotcha :^)

I´m really done with you. That was enough internet stupidity for today. You are purposely ignoring all of my points and just keep repeating your lies like a broken record. There is really no point in talking to you.

Oh wow, just because the game isn't $60 any more doesn't mean it wasn't. You are such a stupid drone.

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Played*, its garbage now, it used to be much better, but then mass cosmetics and valve happened. But even in its current state its still far better that cuckwatch.

It was 40 from the start you fucking retard. And keep calling me a drone for not blindly believing random funny internet jpgs. I really like the irony there.

Yes it is

This causes a big rift between the actual quality of the team's players. This is a big reason why Autobalance was a thing since matches in TF2 would go on longer and you would just have 3-4 players who would be considered gods and would get the majority of the kills and the rest would be scrubs who would just get by.

By comparison in Overwatch because matches last only 10 minutes carrying is significantly less of a thing and you must rely on your other players to actually win.

Skill in TF2 mostly revolves around picking one of the actual useful classes and just knowing how to aim. There's very little actual thought process behind the gameplay. This was one of the biggest criticisms of the game when it launched was it had significantly less depth than TFC, which still stands 10 years later.

It's revisionist history by casuals who claim that TF2 used to be this juggernaut of depth when it was considered a baby game made for normalfags and casuals when it first released.

Not on consoles. It was 60. Even then 40 is pretty close to full price since full price for a PC game is 50. Any amount of money is too much for a game with a F2P model.

More people use voicechat in Tf2 than do people in Overwatch.
Sorry you need everything fed to you stupid.

Also
Kek, I never said TF2 was. Overwatch and TF2 are both casual games but at least TF2 doesn't pretend to be something it isn't and at the end it still has more depth than Overwatch. You are the retard trying to pretend Overwatch has depth.

Right, it bounces her opponents around - just like the demoman's sticky bomb launcher. Pharah needs a button for vertical rocket jumping and a button for horizontal rocket jumping, but the soldier just has the rocket launcher because it's a more complex weapon.
It looks like you are, because I was talking about the fucking Soldier, you goddamned illiterate. Stop deliberately misinterpreting my points and putting words in my mouth.

If you want to use explosives to jump, the Demoman only has one option, which is the sticky launcher. Grenade jumping can be useful under certain fringe circumstances, but for actually getting from point A to point B the sticky launcher is the clear better weapon.

The only thing I've seen anyone in this thread say about TF2 is that it has a higher skill ceiling than Overwatch, which is true. The only poster who says anything about TFC is you, because you're trying to deflect arguments (one might even say you were revising history) away from Overwatch's crippling lack of depth.

Thank you user.

I don't mind a game having little depth, but the issue I have is people trying to pretend it's some competitive deep and balanced game when it isn't. It has as much depth as Clay fighter at best but closer to Mario Kart or Mario Party.

Glad to help. Threads like this make me understand why /a/ bans people for shitposting too much.

I feel the same way, although I do have a vague distaste for any game which settles for being shallow. Most of the reason Overcuck are so insufferable is their stubborn insistence that a game with all of two things on the map to contest (big and small health packs) somehow has more "game sense depth" than TF2 or older shooters. Fucking Half-Life 2's single-player combat arenas in Nova Prospekt had more to worry about than that.

Oy vey, what a coincidence.

Anyway, I figure I should post some video evidence of the hitboxes in action. Vid related is what the hitboxes looked like slightly more than a year ago.

And this is what it looks like as of two weeks ago (or maybe a bit more). Some improvement, but still laughably forgiving, especially when shooting Hanzo's arrows or Pharah's rockets between characters' legs.

There are only two maybe three classes in tf2 who actually require some resemblance of skill, anyway. And it´s kinda funny to see how everyone rambles autistically about the supposedly broken Overwatch hitboxes while completely ignoring that tf2 uses the fucking collision box to resolve projectile hits.

vid related.

Yeah but everyone agrees that TF2 is casual and doesn't work competitively. Though you are bullshitting about it being only 3 or 4 because when I look up footage I see at least 6 different classes played per team generally and each class has far more depth than the average Overwatch hero.

What the fuck is even the point of these threads anymore? They may aswell just be bumplocked upon creation, theres EXTREMELY little discussion about the actual game Probably because the game is shit and there is already very little to talk about, and nothing but arguing between shitposters and drones. At this rate this is just going to become the daily/weekly/monthly designated shitting street thread if anything.

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yet this thread is full of stockholm syndrones lauding actiblizzion's greed and pandering. worse than 4ch, it's reddit.

Amazing thread. Strong enough autism to power a nuclear submarine across the pacific.

Overwatch is fun. I score 120+ on the normalfag scale

nice trips

I can't wait for all the Doomfist cuckold porn from Rampage0118 and other artists :^)

Moved onto what? There's still a healthy amount of community content creation and I've never had long queuetimes. The only issue I have with it right now are the fucking goddamn rats known as Koreans playing on NA.