Hard Mode Hacks

Let's talk about hacks to make games harder. A lot of them just tend to make the game more tedious, but there's some pretty neat ones out there.

I've been playing Golden Sun Reloaded recently. It's a pretty serious revamp in addition to making the game hard

I found the hard mode hack for Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne pretty good too. Makes a lot of demons and abilities more useful.

just play a different game, faggot

I'm sorry you couldn't beat Golden Sun without hard mode hacks user.

What?

Also

The FFT hardmode 1.3 or whatever was pretty good and well-known. It rebalanced job abilities, enemy AI, fixed bugs that allow you to essentially cheat, and various other things.

I actually found it a bit too hard. If you unwittingly grind even the slightest bit in the beginning of the game, before equipment starts unlocking at the stores, you'll quickly find yourself in story-missions with near unbeatable odds. Enemies will have superior equipment and thus HP/MP pools, more damage, and enough job skills (and the AI accompanying it) to wreck your shit right quick.

that one was pretty bad IMO, because it just encouraged you to grind in a dumber way by getting JEXP only as opposed to exp. It just resulted in level 2 BLM casting max level spells because enemy scaling was so poorly done.

Thanks for showing me this, i'm going to give it a shot.

Maybe I should try that. I haven't played Golden Sun since it was new.

Doesn't Nocturne already have a hard mode?
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think I heard that it's more of a chore than a challenge, so I didn't go for it.


I beat that one. Finished the Deep Dungeon (had to do some really insane shit, but I did it, and I got Zodiac and all the items) as well. It was pretty long ago, though, when I still played hacks.

It was good, because it actually forced you to take full advantage of all the mechanics and skills.

Original Tactics is way too easy, which is a shame, considering just how much you can do with all those classes. Squeenix never made a similar (but harder) game again either, which is retarded.

I never got into Tactics Advance, but maybe I should try again. It didn't appeal to me when I played it, but maybe it will interest me now.


That's just a waste of time. If you want to grind, just grind normally. If the hack is supposed to make the game harder, then why the hell would you do that much to make it easier?

I chose to just get to lvl99 quickly, and scale the enemies to be as strong as possible. The game is better when the enemies can use all of their skills against all of your skills.

Especially considering how weak the enemies are in the normal game. You barely get to take advantage of all the shit that you can do in that game.

Grinding for JP without leveling up is excessive. Lvl99 is the best way to do it, and you don't have to optimize your growths either. You just need to be strong enough and get the skills that you want.

If we're talking about hacking rpgs, I can't say I'm in favor of just getting a hardmode hack just for the sake of making it harder. I would rather just have hacks of rpgs that fixed bugs or rebalanced things. In Nocturne, there was no fucking point in going into magic because the magic damage capped off after a while, forcing you to dump in STR and VIT the whole game if you wanted to do any kind of meaningful damage. If the enemies got harder from just fixing that, then mission accomplished.
Skies of Arcadia is an rpg that needs a rebalance rather than a fix. Magic gets used a bit at the beginning, for healing and because of limited attack option, but as the game goes on, your S-moves become the most powerful tools you have for dealing damage (as well as the cheapest in terms of Party Spirit to damage dealt ratio) while magic spells never get used except for healing and reviving because they're so expensive in relation to how much they deal out. There's even a fucking s-move that heals all hp, status effects, and revives, making casting magic in battle almost pointless. A rebalance here would probably increase the cost of s-moves (and boost their damage, but the ratio is less criminally unbalanced), and either boost magic damage in relation to their cost, or make casting spells cheaper as to give more of a reason to use them late game.


He doesn't have at least the patience to beat a rather easy rpg without anything added onto it. I thought that was easy enough to understand.

you need to reread it, because what you said makes no sense.
"I'm sorry you couldn't beat golden sun without hard mode hacks" makes it sound like you're making fun of him, except that doesn't make any sense because if he beat it with "hard mode" hacks then he can obviously beat it normally, in addition you're responding to a person insulting hard mode hacks saying they're useless.

I don't understand what you're even trying to say

f0a02f is a (1) and done. From his reply, you can work out that he thinks hacks, especially hard mode hacks, are fucking retarded. Therefore, he probably does not play hard mode hacks. It can be surmised that he doesn't enjoy hacks in general, seeing as he also suggested OP to play a different game.
I'm saying, he can't beat Golden sun normally. If you removed everything after Sun in my original post, you can more or less work out that is what I meant.
Are we even talking about the same user here?

Your argument and the logic used to arrive at it are bogus, man. It'd be for the best if you just washed your hands of it.

okay but in your statement you specifically states he cannot beat a game without hard mode hacks. Meaning he plays them.

except you said the exact opposite

Look at the original statement again

I see what you mean now. Probably would have been better if it was "even without hard mode hacks."

I like the idea but some devs get cute and change to much.
Like SMT3 hard type makes early much harder then it should be by making you only able by making your buffs and their debuffs half as potent while their buffs and debuffs are full strength.
But late game due to removing the magic damage cap and making retard strength magic you can easily just nuke everything.
Bloody hell you can eventually get a Single target Heavy almighty damage + hp / mp drain (yes stronger then skelepope)

Phantasy star 4 had a cool one and the dev even made an alternate version of his hard mode mod with double exp and money being a default thing.

Megaman Starforce 3 has a very good one since every boss by their final versions are now clearly made for late game DPS (they'd usually be like 3000 - 4000 which you can cut in half easily in 1 turn) now being 8000+ (Final boss was like 12500 now instead of 4000 originally in his super version )
Pretty much made post game still fun when you were getting better chips and brother abilities.

Well that explains why I don't have a problem. Haven't gotten to late game in the hack yet.

nocturne got a pretty good hard mode hack

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