Anyone else excited about SpatialOS and what gamedevelopers can achieve with it? Huge worlds with great numbers of characters and objects and I can't wait to see how it works out! improbable.io/games/made-with-spatialos
Worlds Adrift is already at Beta stage I think and the feedback I have heard is mostly positive, I haven't had the chance to play it myself yet. Chronicles of Elyria is propably my favorite but it is propably at least a year away from launch.
I really hope that SpatialOS hits big and can't wait to see what kind of games this might give us in the future.
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ANYONE ELSE HYPE?!!!?!
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No idea how it affects Worlds Adrift but the beta is fun. A lot of lag at times and some stupid bugs but those should be gone by launch I hope
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Of those games, I had already seen World Adrift and I'm waiting for it to be released, airships are criminally underused for videogames.
The other 2 MMO's you posted seem to focus a lot in sandbox, someone should tell the Ultima Online community about that since they are always complaining about the current state MMOs are in.
If that tool is what I think it is, it might be quite amazing to see small teams create impressively large worlds, especially worlds that the player can actually interact with. If they deliver, you could have a 3-5 man team making a world that's larger and better than Skyrim for instance.
Wyatt Smith
What is it exactly ? An operating system or a game engine ?
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Neither.Its a plug-in that's currently compatible with unreal engine or unity.
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It's shit and no one sane will use it. Dropped immediately.
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So what can you do with it exactly ?
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Seems more like a plugin or a library that devs can use. Some of the guys working with it are using that stuff alongside Unity, afterall.
Judging from the games OP posted, it seems something specialized to host a large world with large amounts of objects and scenario that's fully interactable. You can think of it as "what if Minecraft supported thousands and thousands of players without the chunkloading autism?"
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seems to be a cloud based computation solution. Pretty useless since just wait another 4 or so years and the average CPU will be able to do what ever the cloud can do only cheaper and without always online bullshit.
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David Brooks
If the average classical server structure can handle 32 players you can run two servers in a simultaneous instance where you get a player count of 64.In addition to other functions like persistence where objects like npcs and items never despawn because hardware capabilities are basically limitless.
That's what people said about SLI even then its going to be used on even bigger scales.Also its great for console and mobile gaming
Charles Wood
That's literally the only meaningful thing about this. Mark my words: The next truly revolutionary step in improving games will be to have worlds with extreme persistency. From simple things like "what an NPC owns" being remembered by the game, we can get worlds where the player's behavior is intimately tied to the outcome of NPCs. You could have a game where you take a guy from homelessness to princedom. Hell, you could just have a game where you bury caches of whatever you like all around a region and be able to come back to them when you need them (Provided an NPC didn't happen to find them first! At which point you could hunt down the NPC with those specific items that you buried). No more games where you can sell and permanently LOSE a unique item; with enough searching you could simply find it again somewhere else in the world in someone else's possession. Persistence allows for real economies, gentlemen. Flood a market with something and watch the prices go down. Buy up all of a thing and watch the prices go up.
And did I mention corpses? We could have fucking WALLS of corpses and use them to tactical advantage. And we could loot them. Walls of naked corpses with their weapons being thrown over the wall at your enemies. AND DID I MENTION SEX GAMES. PERSISTENT RAPE STATUS. HAREMS OF BROKEN WHORES.
Austin Thomas
WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE FUCK EM
If it doesn't benefit PC gaming its useless, realistically all this will be is another form of DRM eventually because its tied to a service and if that service becomes too expensive to run, we then loose another game to any archival curation efforts.
Fuck cloud gaming.
Aiden Roberts
we can already do that now. X3 for example allowed you to have a persistent dynamic economy. It ran like utter shit but you could do all of that. I agree that persistence is important but acting like its something new is absurd.
Asher Allen
no thank you, you fucking shill
Jordan Butler
Ignoring the obvious shill OP…
Googled around for a bit.
Impressive.
Hahahahaha yeah I've heard that before. Unlimited Detail!
So then, it's basically a MMO-enabled engine that's being sold as middleware and whose site calls it a game engine creator, and for some reason has OS in its name, is that it?
Sorry OP, but in the off-chance you're not a shill, this isn't all it's being hyped up to be. The backend thing with cloud and connecting separate worlds sounds nice, but it isn't a revolution.
Jacob Hughes
They have ✡Google✡ backing. It's not impressive when kikes are crafting a narrative around it.
Jonathan Sullivan
Either trolling or a shills who didn't find the way to cuckchan.
Juan Peterson
Great, that's what we need, shorter development cycles to churn out more color by numbers, cookie cutter games. Drop in my first person module, my open world module, my mmo module, draw some art and publish to Steam.
Also the persistant point blew my mind, what sense is there in having the game actually run and calculate that stuff in real time instead of just calculating what would have happened it when someone actually joins, unless nobody has played on a particular server for multiple years you'd probably be able to simulate week long deltas in seconds to minutes instead of fucking keeping an instance up and running, why do this.
I used to and still do love the idea that people have the ability to make a game even if they're not a technical person, even if they don't have a team, but man I don't think any of this has been worth it, the sheer flood of shit and people trying to cash in makes me wish it was still esoteric proprietary hard bullshit, you want to make a game you need to be invested and serious about it, not shit one out in an afternoon made from prefab parts where 99% of your game is third party middleware mixed with third party assets, you contributed the title though. It's like these people want to crash the market and chaff it up so much that even hobbyists and consumers become miserable. The amount of people using these technologies responsibly must be so small.
Tyler Wilson
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William Ortiz
It's not the same thing though. X3 has a persistent simulated economy but every single thing that's traded isn't an actual object, it's data. There's no crate of minerals, there's a mineral variable in every station for instance.
X3 has some simulation behind it but not actually persistence. The ships and stations not nearby just suffer some calculation about what they are supposed to be doing and update their values and position accordingly, it's a bit different from actual persistence.
The difference isn't very noticeable for the majority of it, but that has more to do with games having very little things to actually remenber so they can easily get away with simulation instead. One of the MMOs OP posted mentions something about torching trees that stay burned when you leave. That kind of stuff can't be done with simulation very well, at least not coming back and finding the same tree in the same state.
Oh and X3 might not be the best example for this. Due to how the simulation works, the economy of the game eventually fucks itself over and collapses in itself. Persistance and real objects might or might not solve that.
Luis Nelson
As a game developer myself, this whole thing is either a scum - or the guys behind it have not the slightest idea of how game development even works.
Daniel Hughes
Christ, every single review is from indieshit games that no one even plays. Either a bunch of retards who don't know how to use their own engine or as I said earlier- clearly a scam.
Carter Fisher
five more buzzwords and you would have had me nice try, better luck next time!
Julian Barnes
Nice thread op! I too like this great amazing prodoct!
Ryder Smith
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Andrew Taylor
all objects are data, that is implied in object orientated coding. Ultimately you're just reading values off an array or database. Persistence means how much data can be processed out of that database at all times, obviously if you generate it out of the cloud you're going to be able to hold more data since the goals only to send data out to each client. The issue is with having to then instance for each client as each instance requires more processing power. The result is diminishing returns hence why hyping up the cloud is stupid.
You say X3 is not a good example… why nearly ever single ship and station in the game exists within a database and is retained as the game runs, there's minimal abstraction which is why the economy eventually shits itself because unfortunately the AI is a bit stupid and aims to flood the market as soon as possible to stop the player Min/Maxing, its an arbitrary difficulty ramp to stop the player from just dominating the market in the early game. The problem is that vanilla the AI just doesn't use all of the goods that are going through the economy. Mod the game, suddenly the economy makes a bit more sense and the AIs having to replace lost ships and weapons with stimulates the economy a bit more. But dude, its a bloody good attempt at a truly dynamic economy done on a local machine. Give me at least one example of this working in another game that isn't an MMO. I'm pretty certain you can't actually give me one. Even the majority of city builders, whilst impressive don't offer the same level of competitive play in a dynamic economy.
Sims 3 did a decent enough job with persistence on a city level, its a shame the engine was 32Bit and coded by amateurs. Actually I'd argue most persistence can be done if only most developers would actually adopt the 64bit standard since then the only ceiling is how much ram you can afford and not so much an arbitrary 4GB limit. Simply shoving that data into 4GBs is going to be really difficult, 64bit has a ridiculous ram ceiling and so persistence should be easily achievable on a PC. Cloud Computing is really only a solution for Consoles and Mobiles since as a PC Gamer we have the luxury of just adding more ram, its up to developers to support scale-ability for their games in order to pave the way for greater persistence.
It's achievable, just stop acting like some miracle snake oil game engine is going to deliver it. We can already do it.
Same here. 5 years in the industry being shit on by EA and Microsoft. Fun times.
Blake Howard
Nice way of spelling TempleOS, nigger.
Christian Stewart
I hate being right. This shilling for rabbids bullshit is really disgusting.