ARMS is fun

Bought it a few days ago because, while I hated the "Testpunch" literally every single time bar the very last one, I thought I could enjoy this game. Wanted to clear the "story mode" on the highest difficulty first and already felt some buyer's remorse. However, now that I did it and also sunk some hours into rank mode, I think it's awesome. Like, really awesome. The motion controls work, there is no stressful 1 iframe link clusterfuck like in other fighting games but you really win when you are the better player and it's fresh.

Why do people give this game so much hate? I also read that "the only way to win is playing extremely defensively and wait for the opponent to punch first". I never play defensively. Never. And I win almost every single match.

The offline mode and the enemy AI is shit/unfair like with every fighting game. Maybe it's mainly people who spend too much time on the offline mode who hate this game?

I'm probably not the only one who feels like this: I felt like I had to decide between sinking the next months until Mario into ARMS or Splatoon and since I doubt Splatoon can compete with Team Fortress 2 which I'm still playing from time to time and I really don't want to play shooters with anything but mouse/keyboard, I decided for ARMS.

You can enjoy the art anyway.

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I'm usually bad at fighting games but I'm pretty good at ARMS. It's more like… Imagine a 1 vs. 1 between two soldiers in Team Fortress.

Shill thread, ignore.

I don't remember any hate, more like, indifference. We had a general on release day which ran its course.
Add to that not many people here have a Switch. It might see a resurgence after the Splatoon bundle but they'll need to bring more content to keep it relevant.

The game needs way more weapons to choose from. I was really disappointed to see how they were all associated with a character in sets of three. It'd be so easy to shit out variant weapons, like Hammer + Cold, Boomerang + Blind, that sort of shit.
That might change with updates but I'm not holding my breath.
Fun game though. I can't deal with defensive players because I'm shit but I love getting hot blooded with my friends. Spring Man best man.

Since this game is basically only for multiplayer, are the online matches full of lag?

In the test punch there was a bit of loading before a match if you were connecting to someone far away but virtually no lag
I'm buying the game tonight so maybe I'll update this statement

Probably Sm4sh-comp mouthbreathers who claim the same thing, meanwhile I fucking destroy defensefags online by playing aggressively with Cap. Falcon or Bowser.

We got autistic about template threads for years, when will we get autistic and ban template posts?

I said I hated every Testpunch except the last one which was around the time I got actually used to the mechanics (I still don't get why they thought only one hour time limit and no training mode is a good idea for a demo).

Then I bought the game and actually kinda hated it again because I forced myself to beat the story mode on hardest difficulty. However, now I'm playing ranked for some days and it's very good. Really. It is very good.

Looking forward to the DLC next week or so.

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Good game that didn't deserve the shit I gave it the night of the Switch direct, It's a fun game, not splatoon levels of addiction but I keep coming back every now and again. The problem is that it's going to be totally overshadowed by Splatoon in a few weeks and the online will be tottaly dead

As a PC mustard race player who has no interest in consoles or paying to use my own internet connection Arms is the only game that i've actually wanted to play but i cant in the past decade. Interesting 3d takes on fighting games are something i've been interested in, Blade Symphony was one on PC i found pretty good.

Maybe i'll be able to find someone with a switch who will let me play.

Man this game was fun but I sucked so bad. I remember this one guy stopped attacking me and starting jumping around me as I flailed about in shame

Min Min a QT

It's been fucked to no end by the devs. They basically introduced a character that breaks the game, is overpowered and beats every other character by far, hence why most people left the game and those that still play either kick you out for playing her or are those players that have been kicked out for playing her all in one server.
And yeah, there's still people playing.

Wait, this game actually came out? Literally nobody talked about it

It's selling very well.

The only thing that really pisses me off is when I block special attacks as Ninjara, randomly he just stops blocking mid-attack. Is it because the motion controls are shit or is it because the attacks are too frequent/enemy is too close?

You mean like the majority of people on Holla Forums?

I keep trying to use springman only regular gloves only. feels real good once you get used to it. have to get a steadier internet connection so i can play ranked more often.

What this game needs is a tourney mode like Mario Kart 8 where a community can interact without all needing to trade friendcodes.

I just really don't care about fighting games unless it's Smash
If I were 12 I'd be playing this shit non stop like I did with the first tekken games, but as an adult I really don't think this would keep me interested enough.

I think that's the general feeling about this here, it might be good but people don't really have a reason to play it that much

Can you fuck her arm-hole? Is it feasible? Will there be porn of it, inevitably?

A generation or two down the line, Smash will be Mortal Kombat, ARMS will be Smash, and LEGS will be ARMS.

How's youtube coming along, Cody?

My problem is that I'm not awful at competitive games. Competitive games make me an awful person.

Seriously, if someone were to see my temper tantrums I throw over games like this, I'd be embarrassed like hell.

I feel you brother. I don't rage when I lose, but I feel like shit when I curbstomp others. I even intentionally lose one round or let them get a kill on me so that they won't feel too bad.

Am I doing it wrong or are the motion controls shit? I punch forward, he doesn't do anything. I try to block, he does it sometimes. It's fucking hard to even move forward instead of punching.

Breaks it for me.
I admire Nintendo's talent of selling every early tech demo/HW prototype they create for full price, but I'm not buying in until they added enough stuff post release to make a full game, which seems to be their new model anyway.

You're most definitely doing it wrong, yeah. Probably not holding the controllers correctly.

What is this Cody meme?

Autism?

Fixed

It's actually fun.

That's because you've wizened up enough to see that only autistic people can get any fun out of traditional fighting games, and even those fucks hate their games. You have better things to do with your life than memorize hit boxes, stun lock, and so forth.

for you

Arms is great except for one thing: MAPS
These are the absolute worst, really. Almost all of them are either tedious or make some characters and playstyles completely useless.

Terrible visibility and movement options. A lot of characters rely on dodges and jumps to be efficient. This map restrains the fuck out of their movement options making them unpredictable.

The player who appears on top of the stairs at the beginning of the match has a significant advantage for the rest of the encounter. If you have it and aren't a complete retard it's a free win (R1: systematic win, R2: possible, if not systematic loss, R3: systematic win)

Cubes appearing on your way as you are dodging, ending up in luck-based hits, also restrains characters who have low jumps like master mummy, springman or minmin, or twintelle since she relies on tripledashing a lot

This stage is the absolute worst. immensely fucks up half of the cast and making the other half unbeatable (twintelle can't air-hover which fucks up her mindgames and positioning, and byte&barq become useless). Because of the speed bonus aiming punches becomes tedious as fuck and matches are really clumsy. This is why most people who don't play master mummy stay on the edges and don't take the ride)

And the fact that ranked matches also put you on these stages makes the entire point of online play nonsensical and makes arms nothing more than a glorified party game.

Yeah, I gave ARMS a chance at seeing how well it could be as a competitive game, but these stages, especially Kid Cobra's, just ruin that potential.

That's why at a tournament I went to, I tried to keep it either at Spring Stadium or Buster Beach.

Only Kid Cobra's stage is actually kinda shitty (but still not as bad as you make it out to be).

Not sure why you even mention Twinwelle's stage. Can't you really cope with some cars here and there? There is no random factor at all, every character can use the cars to its advantage.

As long as it doesn't get pushed by Nintendo to show up at EVO next year, it's fine.

I get the feeling from all the "invitationals" that they've been having, that they want to run competitive tournaments on their own, ditto for Splatoon and Pokken. With everyone chasing that Esports cash nowadays I guess it shouldn't come as a surprise that Nintendo wants to cut out the middleman seeing as how they have no real control over PM being played at EVO

If you wish to gain advantage on this stage you have to make use of the car bouncing mechanic. If you stay on the ground around 70% of the map is constrained to the spaces between cars, which are in the way of dashes, forcing a defending player to dash in specific directions if they don't want to be restrained, making them predictable.
So no it is in no case random (randomness = ribbon girl's stage), to the contrary it is so restrictive it makes things predictable and boring.

So is genociding whole races of people off the face of the map and breeding your own culture into their children while you create a Global Empire.
So is roleplaying as Hitler in WWII
So is bombarding planets until they explode
So is being pumped by led by armor until CAS saved the dsy yet again.
So is making a highschool and an avatar and fucking everyone in it.
So is juggling some fags with some nice animations
So is dash cancelling to gain a movement boost to kill giant aliens
So is nukimg russians to defend Yurop from commies

Whats your point?

You can always try not to get cornered and, well, just play better than your enemy. You literally ask for everything to be Final Destination and I never got this. This is what would be the most predictable and boring.

I understand not liking random hazards.

I also don't see what the big problem with that Ninjara stage is. I just played it and I don't see a big advantage for having the higher ground. The opponent can still jump over your arms. And if you think it's so much better up there, you can always just try to get there. It's not hard.

There is a reason why there are no obstacles in regular fighting games, and why competitive smash bros doesn't happen on maps like big blue
Having nothing on your way allows you to get the full potential of every character without constraints on movement or decision making.

If there were roughly the same mechanics in every map but had they differed in setup (example: injustice games), every player would have to face the same challenge and adapt to (almost) the same situations.

Mechanics like the ones in ARMS maps will generally give an enormous advantage to one player while restricting the other player's options. Ninjara's stage is one of the biggest offenders in this regard because they force the top player to be defensive and the bottom player to be aggressive. Forcing players to do thing X or Y because otherwise they will be at a disadvantage, with mechanics they have little to no control over makes a match predictable and boring, on top of sometimes being downright unfair/unbalanced.

There is a height limit to where you can punch, so let's say you play a constantly airborne ribbon girl against a master mummy player.
Mummy is on top. You jump, expecting him to throw a punch for x reason.
A non-jumped punch in normal conditions would aim at you as if you were on the ground, thus become really easy for you to avoid with another jump.
Except this is ninjara's stage and mummy is at the same height as you (during jump) if not above you.
Punch hits in a situation where, in a flat map it wouldn't have hit.
So that's one less defensive option for you (or at least it is crippled and more risky)

Since the higher player has advantage, the lower one must at least get at the same height in order to even it out. To do that, they must rush in, taking more risks and being more predictable.

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