Doom 3

Fired this up the other day for the first time (original not BFG edition).

Having made it to alpha labs, so barely an hour into the game, I am already feeling the game is samey. Doom 1 and 2 had maps with distinct features, but 3 seems to involve mostly running through nondescript rooms that seem to blur into each other.

The game is also fucking dark, and for some reason the flashlight takes up a weapon slot.

Was hoping to play this before moving to the new Doom game, since I don't like skipping games in a series, but I'm not impressed.

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nuDoom is legit better than Doom 3. Just pirate it.

Doom 3 was pretty novel for its time but now that the novelty is gone all that remains is a clunky shooter with bulletsponge enemies and hallways as an excuse for level design.

Why do cucks call DooM "nudoom" when its the best game in the franchise and hasnt a single trace of being poozed other the rushed ending because they went out of their way to remake the game from scratch?

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I really want to pirate DooM, but the one thing stopping me is
I mean fuck. Even with my 1TB HDD it feels like a massive chunk of dead weight. Is it really worth the fucking disk space even with the pirate?

People probably have a vendetta against Bethesda/Zenimax media and by extension anything they touch and the fact that most of the original talent of ID Software is probably gone but from what I hear nuDoom is actually really well optimized so maybe they still have a lot of good devs there on the programming team

Doom 3: explore with flashlight equipped, monster spawns behind you, turn and equip gun.

NuDoom: explore empty level with no monsters, activate arena event, wound and fatality every fucking monster in the event, go back to empty level.

Play more. d3 and 4 have more varied enviroments than the pixelmess that is original d.

I picked it up on the sale and I'd say it's worth a pirate at least. I finished my first playthrough in about 10 hours, then took another 10 going back and finding everything I'd missed. Haven't even touched multiplayer or arcade mode, and I have yet to see if Snapmap is good. But thus far, it was worth the $15. It also ran very well on my freshly-built desktop, maxed settings and it never chugged (then again I'm well above the recommended specs so I'd hope so). I even noticed a Steam guide on how to get it running on toasters, so there's that.

With regards to multiplayer, it unfortunately has the modern-day XP/leveling/prestige cancer that infects most shooters these days. I didn't look too closely but it looks to be mostly cosmetic, though I think there are actual gameplay things locked behind progression, so that's a bummer. The DLC is also horrendously overpriced and not on sale; each pack is just skins, maps, a weapon and a demon.

With regards to Doom 3, it was okay at the time but it's kinda shown its age. It was a major departure from 1 and 2, with much slower movement and gameplay, a reliance on jumpscares and monster closets, and a more cinematic approach to things. Some people also got upset over redesigns to various demons, like Lost Souls turning from flying horned skulls to severed heads with robot bits and a jet engine on the back. It has its fans too, like pretty much everything, but I think the general opinion is it's not great, but it's not terrible either.

Playing it in co-op, however, is fantastic. If you've got some friends, find the co-op mod (I think it's called Last Man Standing?) and have fun dicking around through the campaign.

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install the headlight mod:
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it makes the game much more enjoyable as switching between flashlight and gun is just plain tedious after a while.

while the levels are lacking in distinct memorable landmarks, it does get better at feeling like you're in a new area.

Yeah, no. If Carmack were on board that thing would be running on a toaster. Considering that I can run GTA5 on high graphics at 60fps, I'd expect that I would be able to run DFourM at least 20 on medium (what with it looking fair to middling in comparison to GTA5). Can't get it on low.
and yes, I tried it with Vulkan. Shit ran worse. Fuck, maybe it's just nVidia's GameWorks's fault. Shit basically exists to say if you don't have a geforce 900 series or better to get the fuck out

I'm not excusing it, but you can mod the game to have the flashlight attached to weapons.

For some reason fine tapestries with young ladies made by this artisan make me feel utter despair.

There is also a dark mod with no flashlight.

yeah bruh
doom 3, quake wars and rage all had such fucking low recommended specs at release on pc
totally

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I'm playing Doom 3 in VR. I'd give it a 10/10, except it scares the shit out of me when I play. And the damn "not-a-zombie zombies" don't die with one headshot. It is utterly nerve wracking to be shooting a monster, and it's not dropping.

It already is but fags are still taking the bait.
I mean holy shit, I can't believe people responded to c4a2d1 in earnest. He's blatantly shitposting.

Git gud

You guys are hypocrites

When is summer going to end?

Because DooM already exists, it came out in 1993 you retard. Why not ask the morons at Bethesda why they didn't name it Doom 4 as it should've been called?

Which one is Pray? A pray-em-up sounds like it could be fun.

Prey*
The one from 2006

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Prey is how doom 3 should had been made. The amount of organic body horror of unholy combination of meat and machine in that game is exactly what doom needs on Thy Flesh Consumed tier levels. But instead we've got grey corridors after grey corridors, where Prey mixes space themes, alien labs, after life and organic environment with gravity and portal gimmicks, making each level look unique.

It was average. It was like Serious Sam without the challenge or number of enemies.
Even had the worse gore system when compared to SS3. A close range shotgun blast in SS3 results in chunks everywhere painting your screen, weapon and floor with gushes of blood while in Doom 4 you just turn your enemy into chunks with minor blood, it's fairly underwhelming

I did like the suit because I'm a sucker for Space marine armor but I'm probably the only one.
Shotguns were nerfed to hell but the rocket launcher, rail gun and minigun were pretty fun.
Cyberdemon and Spider Mastermind were super underwhelming.
The soundtrack had like two good tracks, one of which was the menu theme.

When's Serious Cuck 4?

This is a shit reason to dislike a game, user. Doom 2016 is actually good

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The enemies in Doom are spread across the entire level. nuDoom might have an imp or two in the empty platforming sections between the arenas it locks you in.

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They are both average.
I had plenty fun with Doom just shooting things.

Doom3 was a disappointment. Too dark, gameplay was monotonous, everything the same. It had only a vague semblance to the original doom games, and none of it in the gameplay. (IMO SS3 is the game Doom3 should have been)

Oh, and all the predictable jump-scares. Bah.

I'm an old oldfag and we didn't play Doom 1 & 2 on nightmare as it wasn't balanced at all for it, it was just a silly mode for fun. That was back before "normal" was renamed to "hard" in games.

Ultra-Violence is what everyone plays except speedrunners.

They also play with sourceports and mice.

Doom 1 and 2


NuDoom

NuDoom is arguably better than Doom 3 but it could never be the best in the series.

Only thing Doom 3 really has over nuDoom is some more inspired monster designs and cool interactive touchscreens. The bosses are also slightly less pathetic.

nuDoom, while decent and much better than nuwolfenstein for example, isn't anything special. Takes up more hard drive space than that doom 2 megawad you haven't played yet too, something to think about.

Doom 3 is pretty good. And you don't have to download 40Gb of patches to play it! FOR A DEAD MULTIPLAYER MODE

Fuck this industry.

It's mediocre.

you niggers literally nobody ever capitalized it that way until look-mom-i'm-so-retro-and-hip faglords started doing it. i don't know why this bothers me so much but it does

How so? What other game can look that good at 144fps? And in OpenGL, no less.

Doom nigger, it's just Doom. The M is not capitalized, at all. Bethesda and journalists only did it because they're lazy with PR and don't give a shit about vidya gaem history respectively.


It's your instincts telling you they're Newfags to doom, and that you just know in your gut if left unchecked that will quickly spread as the new way of pronouncing Doom.

Are you faggots retarded? Thats how the game is called and how you tell the good game "DooM" apart from the shitty 2D game with auto aim

To be fair you can also refer to it as NuDoom.

It also can't handle more than 20~ monsters without shitting the bed.
I was surprised I had to fucking wait for monsters to spawn because I was killing them 2fast on UV.
It's pathetic.

Doom 3 had monster closets. NuDoom has monster events.

What matters is that any organic level design is thrown out of the window. You don't fight in the levels you explore, those are merely treasure hunts, all your combat happens in a big room with obstacles. It's the death of level design.

It's a decent quantity, but the problem is that you dispatch them all the same: DPS until they flash, then engage with fatality autopilot. It completely breaks the flow.

Its 12 at a time, the spawn limit is fucking 12

To be honest that reminds me of the new Doom game.

I got bored after a couple of hours.
Its very very samey and relies on basic RPG mechanics to keep you hooked.

nudoom has a lot of things wrong with it but in total fairness i actually unironically enjoyed the last two or three levels, simply because they open them up a bit, hide the monster spawning by giving you eight or so smaller guys and three or four big, dangerous guys to deal with and stop holding your hand. shame the first several hours of the game is a boring slog because those last stages were genuinely fun

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I actually like Doom3 for what it is. It's not the same type of game as Doom 1, 2, 64, but it still has the notable characters/monsters. I also liked the Doom film.

You do understand that 100K enemies on screen is just a meme, right? The original games aren't so far off from nuDoom's formula, and you aren't playing it on hardware from 20 years in the future.

Don't make me defend nuDoom, I dropped it out of boredom after realizing all the action happened in the arenas. But I dislike knuckledragging for the sake of saying everything is shit: what is actually shit needs to be chastized, the rest is elitist masturbation.

Can it even handle 20? I thought it was 12?

I got NuDoom for 19$ from the steam sale and the game isn't half bad. I wouldn't get it for full price but for 19 bucks its a decent game.

You might be more at home on reddit friendo.

That's why you retarded memekids are bringing this place down.

yeah nah you're wrong.
Doom 2 has an enemy whose entire point is to spawn more enemies and there are levels like Tricks and Traps where you see more enemies on screen at once than nuDoom can render.
Don't get me wrong, nuDoom's enemy count is a marked improvement over Doom 3 but its still a far cry from the originals.For a modern comparison, all serious sam games have a higher enemy count than NuDoom and those run on weaker hardware to boot

marvelous

Only reason to play Doom 3 is for the co-op.

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It's almost like they should've prioritized gameplay over pretty graphics.

It's Doom 4, or nuDoom. Calling it DooM just makes you look like a schmuck that gets suckered into marketing like a chump.

The vanilla Doom engine can handle rendering 128 sprites on screen, granted that's without anything else in the level and is just a bare naked room with no props but that's 128 enemy sprites, but compared to 12 (20 under certain circumstances) that blows nuDoom out of the water. And if there is more then 128 sprites on screen then the non-rendered sprites are still there and function normally they're just invisible.

I found that that playstyle stopped being viable at the high difficulty after a while, or at least felt too messy and clunky. Once you realize how pitiful the health and (build-dependent) armour and ammo drops from those kills are and the danger involved in stopping to do the animation, it's better to switch playstyle.

I put those hundreds of hours as a TF2 scout main to use and just burst damaged everything to death at range while airstrafing around the arena endlessly and barely touching the ground. Shame there's no rocket jumping or I'd be doing that too. Got it for $10 pirated and while replay value is minimal I'd say it was worth that price.

I hate nuDoom because it is a doom game. It's a kinda ok shooter (maybe I'm just to idealistic) and I'd be fine with it, were it not a fucking DOOM game.
NuDoom drops health and ammo from enemies. Lame.
NuDoom has the level design kinda similar to Serious Sam (and I love SS), that is, can't get to the other area until you kill all enemies. The difference between this and SS is that SS throws shit ton of monsters at you and none of them give you SHIT. Lame
The game is too easy, even on hardest difficulty because of these two reasons above. FUCKING LAME.

If it wasn't DOOM, I'd put it in the same category as the nuShadow Warrior, nuWolfenstein or Hard Reset. Better than COD, but doesn't hold a candle to the classics of the 90s and early 2000s.

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