So I've been looking at Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite for a while now...

So I've been looking at Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite for a while now, and I gotta say I think it's reached a point where Capcom shoulds delay the game by a year. So they can add everyone from UMvC3, a bunch of new characters and completely redesign the game visually and mechanically.

Like I can understand why people dislike the SFIV model, but it's much better than what they're doing with SFV and MvC:I. The ideal solution is basically have the base game and then make shit like UMvC3 as a downloadable expansion for 20 dollars a pop. This way people are getting what they paid for AND the business model is consistent. Then again this is Capcom we're talking about, and they'll probably force Itsuno to make DMC5 into a pseudo open world game like Dark Souls.

So I guess the question I'm asking is how would Holla Forums approach downloadable content for fighting games? and how would Holla Forums fix Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite.

Mega Man has Juicy lips. Why does he have juicy lips?

Focus more on function.

I like how they did X though, I feel that they did it much better than Megaman in MvC where instead of changing between three weapons he's changing weapons as part of his moveset.

WHENS FUHNCKSHION?
But really, this game is beyond all help. The train left the station a while ago, and the conductor(didney) is calling the shots. This is what the higher ups want, so expect a burning dissappointment.
As far as DLC is concerned in fighters: On a personal level, i want to be a purist and say that the release candidate should have the full roster. If they need to add charactrers later, it is usually a call by the marketing team to promote a related IP. The current climate of the industry lends itself to releasing half-baked games and slapping the rest as DLC, so why even release a half assed game if you are going to milk your userbase more for them to get the full experience? All you are going to do is further alienate your userbase and dig your metaphorical grave even deeper. In crapcum's case, theyre 2 miles deep and have already got the cement mixers ready and pouring.

This will never happen, Marvel only wants the game made to advertise their movies. Also, they need to replace the "pr" people they hired from the FGC that are terrible at their job. I get that you want people from there so you have an easy time shilling your shit at tournaments and everywhere else, but you still can't have a guy going around saying that the characters don't matter. Capcom is just shit though, they're not going to do something right or make a good game.

Yeah, even normalfags are hating on it now. Doesn't exactly help that combofiend fucked up the PR. Seriously what fucking idiot pisses people off like that, just say "We're not denying or confirming any characters based on rumor or speculation". The reason people buy these games is for the characters.


Agreed, the function shit is the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Hell I bet I can do a better job and I'm fucking terrible at fightan games.

Well, first I'd say fuck downloadable content. It's the fucking cancer that has started this whole mess with devs cutting content to sell later. It's the root of the problem. However, if it has to be done, make it content that adds to the base game instead of content cut from the original release.

No matter how much capcom delays the game; it will still turn out to be shit. All of Capcom's good fighting game devs left the company and the game purely exists because Disney wants to advertise MCU more.
Even Capcom themselves can't delay it if they wanted too; it's their replace for the floundering SFV and if they did it would be competing directly with Dragon Ball Fighter Z.

Nintendo has the perfect approach for DLC in fighters with ARMS; Shit's free and all patched in. It would be ideal for every fighter to do that, but not every has Nintendo's autism cash flow.
SNK had a decent approach for KoF XIV regarding paid DLC outside of costumes; DLC characters weren't even on the plans during development and weren't even considered until months after launch. Then they polled the fans on what they wanted. So it ended up; 4 characters bundled or that could be purchased separately 7 months after release, new music/stages/graphics overhaul are patched in for free and shitty DoA5 tier Costume bullshit (save for a few free costumes). the 4 characters were nowhere near high tier (one of them being considered the worse character in the game) so you could easily ignore them in favor of the already fucking huge roster.

I'd prefer ARMS' dlc plan for everything, but I'd at least settle for SNK's no season pass/everything is developed post release instead of the norm for fighters.
Tekken 7 had a chance at setting an example for fighters but they kiked it up hard.

Give it to Eighting and let them have full control like they did for TvC, don't restrict them like MvC3. Even with Disney forcing the MCU on the game you'd at least get solid gameplay.

who cares, the vs. series has ran its course honestly. MvC3 was okay, but only that. it was nowhere near MvC2's stupid ridiculous fun in my opinion.

Dragonball Fighterz is what people should be keeping an eye on. ArcSys making it, reportedly easy to get into, a huge ip in Dragonball, etc. It can pull crowds from multiple directions from people like me who enjoy ArcSys's games already, DBZ fans which I was never one, fighting game fans, etc. That's going to make some waves i imagine and hopefuly bamco doesn't fuck it up.

But yeah, maybe I'm delusional, but I could see DBFZ doing what SFIV did for fighting games years ago. I think people forget how big SFIV was. I never cared about Street fighter, but SFIV's popularity spread out to other titles. It's the reason I got into fighting games, and though SFIV wasn't my style, it lead me to games I did end up enjoying such as Guilty Gear and got me hyped when Xrd Sign was announced.

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Er, I should say Guilty Gear XX Accent Core, that was my first GG. I've bought every GG since then.

Well we know the PC port will be fucked for sure

They aren't allowed to do so, licensing stuff.

For ARMS, it would not surprise me if most if not all of the "updates" are already made and are on the disk to be time unlocked later. Nintendo pulled the same stunt with Splatoon. Arbitrarily locking content is annoying, but at least it's free, I guess. Other companies make you pay for disk-locked content.

Have you bought the earlier ones? mainly vanilla and X?

Wasn't the stuff on splatoon's disk just half finished shit and only covered half the content that got pumped out of the game? Never really paid attention to the game since I'm not big on multiplayer shooters.

I've got a better idea: delay it until Disney doesn't own Marvel anymore

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Why haven't you pre-ordered your ticket for Thor™: Ragnarok yet user?

speaking of which, I thought Thor had long hair.

Not vanilla or X, no. The earliest I own is X2#Reload as it's on pc, but I don't play it as much as I play AC+R and Rev2. And mostly Rev2 since it's the newest and hottest currently. I thought of getting the console version of Rev2 since the online is probably more active, but I'd have to get a PS4 and a compatible fightstick as the one I have is a xbox360 one. I just can't justify dropping that much money for one game.

At least a few of the weapons and stages were complete and arbitrarily hidden on disk. The later updates were made after release. I believe hackers actually were able to use the weapons in offline training, but as the game is almost entirely online multiplayer that didn't mean much.

Why yes, of course she does :^)

You should play X at least.

But that's not the one in the movie.

Dragon Ball FighterZ is where its at

holy FUCK Supers are so casually thrown around and part of setups it goes in tandem with the DBZ universe very well.

I'll think about getting it. Wasn't X a blue bottom disc? I have one of the later PS2s and I don't think it handles the blue bottom discs well.

multiplayer games should never have gameplay altering paid dlc otherwise it fragments the community or makes it pay to win. The sfv payment model is a massive improvement over sf4's shitty model even if it's the only good thing about it.

We wouldn't get any more mcu movies if that happened.

It's hardly an improvement considering how long it takes to generate enough fight money to unlock one character and how that time increases thanks to how shitty the netcode is.

I honestly think that his weapon selection could have been better, Rising fire would have been better if it was the charged version or at least give it a non-shit range, also Boomerang Kwanger and Overdrive Ostritch's weapons feel… redundant
Also, this was the perfect opportunity to bring back his SF upgrades from X1 and X2 and they didn't even do that

Monkey's paw in action, I guess. I swear, if I had the time, I could make a better Marvel game in MUGEN or something.

Well, I played X on the Dreamcast, not sure about the PS2 version.

They should just do a Spider-Man fighting game instead.

Something like Marvel Super Heroes?

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More like hymen.

They should get Sam Rami to make Spider-Man again and bring back William Dafoe.

He quit because they wanted to merge Black Cat and Vulture to create the Vulturess, a super female independent villain that needs no man.

Basically, except I'd like it to just be Spider-Man and very related characters.

I figure a big problem with an MvC roster is half of it has to be filled with Capcom characters. While Capcom does have some great characters, there are so many vs. games that you can play as them in that they're not really the draw to anybody. The Marvel side, both because Disney just wants to promote the movies and because of how many fucking obligatory characters there are.

If they were to focus it to being Marvel-only, the roster would be less shitty. If they could focus it further, for example limiting it to the Spider-Man franchise (which I picked because of the wide variety of characters and because they've been limited to two slots in Marvel vs. Capcoms), they could have an even more focused roster which would be much more satisfying to fans.

>The Marvel side is always extremely limited*

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dfc is probably a better mahvel than what mvci will be

capcom doesn't have the money or the talent to make another umvc3, ultra street fighter 4 was almost entirely assets cannibalized from xtekken and that was practically too much for them


fox had the movie rights back then too, the only difference is that now disney has decided that they have to kill off any marvel ip that they don't have complete control over. it came out a while ago that xmen writers aren't allowed to created any new characters.

if it's a 3d game? only charge for cosmetics. create a bunch of gimmick content that can only be won in events
for a game with xrd or kof xiii-tier sprites? charge for addtional characters but make them free to use in training & mission mode, people should get to know what they're buying. periodically release character bundles at a reduced price. balance changes should be free

i'm not entirely against what they tried to do with killer instinct by making it f2p but you purchase every character except jago or buy the full version

burn capcom to the ground

wait, seriously?

Among other things basically he wanted Vulture or something but Sony was pressing him to include a female character, instead of allowing him to add Felicia as supporting character they wanted her to be the Vulture.

Reminder that Marvel vs Capcom MUGEN builds have better UI presentation than Capcom.

If you watched the trailer you'd see that he gets his hair shaved.

What I mean is.. why changing Thor's iconic image?

Please kill yourself.

Is there any sort of recommendation out there for the best MvC MUGEN roster? I know Mug is kind of hit and miss as far as user content is concerned.

Why not? They already change the races of so many characters because diversity, whats a little change in Thor's hairdo?

That'll take far more than a year, negrito.

Why do people watch trailers? Trailers always give away all the good parts

Why does she have boob armor?
Isn't that sexist and literally the patriarchy?
0/10 #NotMyFemThor

We call those things "functions" now, user.
It doesn't matter what a character os, what matters is a function.

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They are extending that shit too much, trust me, if they make MSH 2, it would sell much, much more.

I wonder if they'll have Thor lose his arm in the movies like he did in the comics but without the lose of the hammer.


Honestly surprised Deadpool isn't in it from being such easy bait; even if he currently is under Fox.

The most I get is fucking around with karate man and get lost trying to add in stages and haracters due to them being all over the net.
Meanwhile the packages that make mugen look like your pic are hidden behind big dick waving forums that require 100 posts to see the links. Feels real fucking bad, man.

try mugenarchive.com some mods might be fags but it's bearable, just don't download / register on a weekend, they have a community weekend where lurkers can't download unless they rank up, it's really stupid

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I haven't been paying attention. How are they shitting the bed?

Really, the whole thing was fucked the moment Disney bought up Marvel. Mainly because even if Marvel's big autists up top finally let go of their eternal grudge over MUH MOVIE RIGHTS with F4, X-Men, ect., Disney wouldn't allow it. Because Disney won't do anything unless they get 100% control of the entire thing with everything even slightly related to THEIR shit. And as such no more Doom, no more Wolverine, Cyclops or Magneto, and so forth.

Really, all's that is left to happen now is for Disney to gobble up all of Capcon, ensure then every Capcom fan item is destroyed forever because their legal sharks are full NO FUN ALLOWED EVER, and then watch as it all burns to the ground because Disney does not forgive financial fuck-ups by others with their IPs ever.

No, MvC was fucked the moment Marvels movies were a success. If they hadn't been bought by Disney and the MCU was a sucess; you would've had the Diversity scabs filling your roster along with everything you already have to deal with.

Capcom hasn't learned anything since SF5.

This will be one of their last games.

IGN bags out MvC:I
I guess Capcom didn't pay IGN enough

He thinks its a game not an advert!

Starwars Battlefront (15)

DMC5 will probably save them

EA bought the rights from Disney so the Mouse doesn't give two shit what unsellable piece of crap gets put out.


They don't even have the ability to keep people blindly trusting them anymore and then there's the fact their cheap asses would fuck it up no matter who's on to make it.

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What are you, blind?

The style they are using is definitely better in 3, but I imagine they have slightly "better" graphics in I… then again, I'm just saying that because I can't imagine them being worse logically yet they look worse to me.

If they didn't do that for SFV, what makes you think they'll do it for MvC:I? They're not even trying to hide how much they don't give a shit about the game, since they know "pro gamers" that play their games for a living will shill it even if they hate it, and believe that their name and the name of the game alone will sell it to the normalfags. In reality, people are getting tired of their shit, but not at a rate to make them panic and start making actual good games again.

They're getting so desperate I genuinely expect them to shop it out to Platinum, only problem is while they'd give a great product Capcom is garanteed to give them too little time and money so we'll get another rushed game like DMC 4 at best.

You can literally see that the graphical style in MvCi is worse than in MvC3, so even though the graphical fidelity might be "better" it looks worse. Are you really so tech illiterate you can't differentiate between style and fidelity?

Yeah, whoever decided to make the game focus on MCU really fucked things over.

I flatly don't trust Platinum with Devil May Cry regardless, at this point the series is more Itsuno's than it is any Platinum staff member's (up to and including Kamiya who seems to have the series deadlocked at DMC1 in his head). I'd give Itsuno all the time and money he needs but that isn't gonna happen.