Musou/warriors thread

The series was never 10/10 material, either it strikes a chord with you or you despise it. But I have the uneasy suspicion musous had taken a turn for the worse from Samurai Warriors 4 onwards. I got Warriors Orochi 3 ultimate yesterday, and it's so much better than SW4.

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Cow Cow will always be my favorite
Sword and Hook is very fun to use, same goes for the Cloth and Short Halberd
I enjoy Warriors Orochi 3 massive cast and interactions, so maybe that.
Nope.

Dynasty Warriors 3 was the pinnacle of the series as far as it goes, it was improved and broken after that but DW3 just worked y'know.

What's the best one for the Vita? I shall pirate it.

I've never played 3 but I have played 4. 6's reboot can be legitimately criticized, but 7 and 8 were certainly better than 4.


Depends which ones are on vita, but apparently Warriors Orochi 3 is, so go with it.

I can only play the Empires games, the ones that let you customize your own character in shit.

Simply put, I'm at the point now where I won't play any game unless it lets me have my own custom character.

Samurai Warriors from 3 onwards lets you do that. Also I guess you mean let you create a character and being the main one you play, but even then SW Chronicles qualifies.

It does? I'll have to look into that. Been a while since I played these.

SW3 has a character creator, you can use him like any other officer in free mode.
Chronicles is a weird spinoff on 3DS in which you create your avatar and have him/her go through history and talk with the various factions. In each battle you can select multiple characters to control, but in the end you are mainly playing your avatar.
SW4 was obviously based on Chronicles, a lot of the mechanics are the same, and its alternate mode is even Chronicles mode. But you can really tell it's a portable game at its core made to be on PS4. It has better gameplay, but it ultimately makes you way too powerful for what the game has to throw at you so it makes it really easy and kind of unsatisfying. At least Chronicles was more balanced.

I got Dynasty Warriors 8: Empires recently.
I feel like I made a mistake. Is Empire mode the only thing to do in the game?

Xiahou Dun

Strike sword or Striking sword or whatever it's called.

The first PSP one.

No.


I always recommend people play at least 1 story DW before touching an Empires game; a huge amount of the fun in Empires comes from the crazy ahistorical situations you can get into that you won't understand if you haven't played a mainline game. Sun Jian trying to assassinate Sun Ce or pledging loyalty to Meng Huo won't mean a thing to you but would make me go "Holy shit!". Likewise, if Lu Bu offered to join you you would just think 'he has nice stats' and recruit him, while I would be saying "NO NO NO NOPE NO, can I execute him from this menu?".

Lu Bu did nothing wrong.

Kunoichi
also her and sanada
samurai warriors 4, I haven't played a lot of these games admittedly.
Nope.

Tsuruhime
N/A
Sengoku Basara 3 Utage
Not really, all warrior games look the same to me, so maybe I did.

Aside from betray everyone he ever worked for and fucked all his officers wives.

All I've been doing is recruiting the ladies for my custom officer's harem. I assumed this was how you were supposed to play the game mode.

That's a tough one. It's a tie between Cao Ren and Zhang He
Claws pre DW7. If it's past that then I guess flying swords.
Dynasty Warriors 5. 7 would be a close call. I'm still pissed about 8 empires missing features that 7 had, and 7 was missing features that 6 empires even had!
Yes. But you're going back years.

dw2 was the game i bought when i bought my ps2. im actually a huge fan of the series. i know its shit, but its just alot of fun.

which let me defend a territory from invasion by a massive army using cheng pu and 5 soldiers instead of letting me pull from a massive pool of generals nomatter the territory like they do now.. >or maybe even dw2
on higher difficulties which really made you rely on your army and really feel like youre 1 man in an army of 1000s

dw2 was my first experience with musou games.
i actually have played and own every dynasty warriors (excluding all spinoffs) from 2 to the current… and im going to buy the next which looks really fucking awesome.

lubu is a wild dog his abusive adoptive father used to gain power.
he reaized he is a force on his own and didnt need a ruler. and he wasnt exactly wrong. the entire kingdom descended upon him because they feared him.

watching every general on the map during the hu lao gate battle getting fucked up by lu bu in dw2 was one of the best moments in the game

If you want a historical battle-em-up, take Dynasty Warriors 8. If you want said historical battle-em-up with all its story replaced with a Civilization knockoff, get empires. That about covers it really. DW8 has fucking crazy content also.

The kingdom fell on him because he was the bull in China's china shop. He was a highly effective commander but he was politically retarded and seemingly did everything he could to piss off anybody who might sympathise with him.

Can't you station officers in the newer titles though? I miss officers dieing of old age or illness though. It added pressure when one of your higher leveled officers dropped just when someone is invading your area.

DW - Pang Tong
SW - Naotora Ii
HW - Zelda
Sword and hook
Hyrule Warriors
Yes but I rented it so I didn't play it long the first I bought was 3.

Just finished dragon quest heroes 2. It was a huge improvement over the first one where every level was an arena where you rush portals to stop the enemy spawner, usually on opposite sides of something you are supposed to be guarding.
2 has an actual overworld that is about half the game. I feel like I was behind the curve playing through as everything took a very unsatisfying amount of time to kill. You have a party of 4 which means 3/4 of your team is retarded AI. They are good at not dying but don't attack at all most of the time. There are about 20 weapon types but you are locked into a few per class and they are grindy to level proficiency with. The problem is that proficiency gives abilities but since this game has basically no information anywhere you don't know what abilities you'll get. After grinding priest and mage classes to get the sage class, I was stuck using one weapon type to allow healing while attack power buff was another weapon. I ended up just ditching the 'higher' class for priest after spending half the game leveling a different weapon to see if it would give a healing ability.
There is online garbage obviously designed for 4 people like defending a center area from 4 directions.
It was mindless button mashing fun for a bit, much better than the first. Maybe they can make a third an actual action/adventure and cut out the gauntlet bullshit.

Warriors Orochi 4 with Hyrule Warriors crossover on Switch when

Lu Bu or Cao Cao
That's like asking me to pick between my children, but I'm fond of sword-and-hook, Pang Tong's old staff before they replaced it with a fan, and the sheer reach and strength of Lu Bu's halberd.
Warriors Orochi 2 or DW8XL. DW7 had the best story cutscenes, haven't gotten a chance to play WO3 but might if CEMU is far enough along for it.
Can't profess to have touched it

>Favorite characters
Cao Cao, Xiahou Dun, and Lu Bu
Any that I work great for a shitload of troops and officers
Dynasty Warriors 5, I liked how every character got a story and that when you play as a leader, you don't have to babysit anyone
No, but I have it. Whats special about it compared to the others?

It's just the first actual musou game is all. Dynasty Warriors 1 was some fighting game.

Xiahou Dun and Zhou Tai
Zhou Tai
One of the empires games. I forget which one.
Yep.

Sun Ce
Musashi from SW2
Dynasty Warriors 7
Nope.

100%ing DW7XL is what made me burn out on the genre. I just couldn't get into DW8 or SW4 or any spin off since then. I'll be giving DQH2 a shot, since it finally got cracked, but my hopes aren't high.
I was playing this shit since DW4 so maybe it's time to stop.

Playing Warriors Orochi 3, I'm noticing some officers have duplicate weapons. Like Zhu Rong having Wang Yuanji's daggers. Was it a DW7 problem or something specific to WO3 ?

Our guy SUN CE
Tonfa pre-DW6, Ma Chao's Spear after it
DW4, I probably clocked more autist hours in it in my adolescence than any game in my life that isn't an MMO.
I did, I've played every mainline DW except the original fighter.

I'd have to go with Mitsuhide Akechi from the samurai warriors games. Or Miyamoto Musashi. Yukimura too, and Xiaohu Dun.

Mitsuhide Akechi or Musashi from SW 2
Samurai Warriors 2

I still remember the first time I played DW 3. I rented it at age like 10 and had no clue what I was going to thrust upon myself. It felt like this arcade game from Japan, very "video game-y" which is something I loved. Fun games. Now games need to be all """realistic""""….no thanks

I believe so.

Is Warriors: Legends of Troy good?
And how is Samurai Warriors 4-II? I keep hearing nothing but mixed things on it. My favorite game from these is SW 2 as I said.

Is WO3 still worth getting or is there a better game out yet?

Also was thinking of getting DQH 2 when it goes on sale on Steam in several months

Lu Bu just wanted a decent challenge.

You see what an Xtreme legends version is ? Now imagine XL without the base game's content. That's 4-II. SW4 is underwhelming as well. SW3 is superior in almost every way but the lack of counterattack mechanic

I am liking it very much, but it's mostly about the roster porn and a lot of story missions. Worth getting, in terms of being a more solid game overall, I would say DW8 complete edition.

I really disliked how you could switch characters mid battle in SW4.

It's a holdover from SW Chronicles, as detailed here.
In that game you incarnated an avatar, so to add variation you could play other characters and switch. And for some reason they decided to base SW4 on a portable game rather than SW2/3.

Also I want to have sex with this tachibana bitch even though she is an annoying cunt.

Are there any musou games set in medieval europe or the crusades?

I wish there was. I also wish there was one about american presidents fighting each other.

Not exactly; but Koei made Bladestorm which is set during the 100 years war, is sort of Kessen-esque and has a similar aesthetic to DW.

Guan Yinping is mai waifu.

Why do you think 3 is better? I always thought everyone hated 3

Zhurong is undoubtedly the best girl.

God tier taste.

Would you a female wei yan?
The speech impairment included of course.

The only reason anyone would hate SW3 is because Musashi isn't in it. Otherwise it's a straight upgrade of SW2, and I loved SW2. It introduced the hyper attacks to the franchise, the ability to heal ally officers with items (later replaced with the "high spirits" or green circles), has good storylines (Nobunaga especially, he's never been as cool as he was in SW3) and the alternate modes provide great durability. Also the main menu theme is this and I love it.
Anyone who hates this game is seriously going to have to justify himself because that shit isn't rational.

It runs at 20 fps mate.

Zhang Liao/Yukimura Sanada
Xu Shu/Magoichi Saika
DW5/SW4-II/OW2
played 'em all son, even the ps1 fighting game. (haven't played some ps3 ones tho coz poorfag)

What's the best kingdom and why is it Wei? Besides process of elimination that is.

Lu Bu was a dumbass. Even in the incredibly dramatised story he has in DW8XL, you can quite obviously see that even when he had a chance at victory, he ignored chen gong's aid and simply said that "I don't need strategy".
Gotta say, i miss how in the older cutscenes for lu bu/zhang liao's capture cutscene they had lu bu beg for his life and zhang liao telling him to accept death like a man.

SHE….LOOKS….A…CUTE…..
CUTE….!

Isn't that cutscene also in DW8?

Musashi is in sw4 as well, not sure if he's in sw3 but he's also definitely in ow

I think pre DW6 there were legit villains, but then they suddenly decided to make everyone COMPLEX and DEEP and I dunno, I liked Cao Cao when he was megalomaniac motherfucker, not muh benevolent dictator.

3 was a wii exclusive for whatever the fuck reason. Only way to play it on ps3 is to import sengoku musou 3 z (basically xtreme legends but without import feature, it's got everything the original had already in). I imported some months ago, my kanji is nowhere near good enough to be able to read this game man.

dunno about dw8, dont have any ps3 musou other than 3z, but in dw8xl(steam) they have him just sort of saving his daughter life and angrily shouting at cow cow

But he's only a benevolent dictator if you're playing with the english dubs. Jap dubs which are the OG shit have him pretty much be Nobunaga without the whole "murdering peasants mercilessly" thing going. Nigga just trying to end these wars while Shu is shouting "muh benevolence" and Wu thinking they should own china because they were good at punching people.

So fucking what ?

literally go to any musou gameplay video on youtube, and set the speed of the video to half (or less). That's how the game played. It's not fun.

So uh, this bladestorm game is intruging. Is it any good, and is the port the same as DW8 where the options are meh but it runs on a 10 year old toaster?

So it's fucking unplayable. PS2 games run at 60 for fuck's sake.


For the majority of DW8 ho moans about muh ppl and muh honor and is overall pretty much edgy version of Lu Bei.
In DW4 he only gives a fuck about muh amibition.

dont (always) trust the subs in vidya. so much stuff gets lost in localisation and/or translation.
Cao Cao is a pretty baller leader in dw7 and dw8.
pic related, do it for the imports

I always play with jap audio, he sounds faggy as shit in 8.

Are you underageb&s seriously implying anything sub-60 fps is unplayable? You are aware this was a selling point for PS4 era consoles that never delivered and was used against them by fags such as Jim Sterling and Total Biscuit?
60 fps is nice and the primary reason to like PC ports, but if you think not having it makes a game unplayable, you might as well be in elementary school.

first user phrased it wrong, it's not that the game isnt running in 60 (it's actually running in 30 but that's beside the point) the point is that for some reason it's slow. very very slow. especially if you're playing it on an emulator, it feels like a fucking slideshow.
youtu.be/b7_lIv2pNGU?t=413
the menus and (some) cinematics play on normal speed but when it's in game it slows to a crawl. this is slower than sw1.

Sub-60 fps IS indeed unplayable, my poor little console peasant. And your pitiful attempt at insulting me only tells me that sub-consciously know it but refuse to accept the reality of things.

No idea who those are. Are they game journos? Or youtubers? Do you think appealing to literally whos will somehow validate your anti-scientific claim?


No, game is literally hard locked at 20 frames rendering per second because lol Wii. PS3 version might run better, but nobody fucking played it so whatever.

ps3 runs great, i imported 3z, bought it used too so it was like 10 eurobucks. really worth it. but holyfuck even if you know japanese this is high level shit when it comes to reading.

Jap or English version? He's been flanderized over time like pretty much everyone else has (that had something to flanderize, most of Shu has always been flat as a board for instance) but Cao Cao generally still keeps to being ambitious as all hell while being hard-fisted but fair in the English version. He's got the emperor by the fucking balls and knows it in DW8, and hires all of his officers on the basis of meritocracy. Liu Bei is the short-term feels good guy and Cao Cao is the long-term "good for everyone even if you think I'm a villain" good guy. Wu's just kinda there.

The real travesty is all of Sima Zhao's warlord decisions in Jin being attributed to Jia Chong because Koei's character for Sima Zhao doesn't allow for any of the decisions he made in history.

Does it run at 30 or 60?

dont know how to count frames on a ps3, but it feels like 60 for sure. even if it's 30 like on the wii, it doesnt go as slow as on the wii.

Oh, another thing vastly appreciated about later DW titles is that they put some effort into just about every faction. Shu's still kinda boring on the whole but I chalk that up to them being the "beginner" faction or the game's "face" while Wu got a shit-ton of fun characters/movesets (previously only Zhou Tai was the only Wu character/moveset I cared for) and Wei is even better than it usually is.

I see. Shoot if it's on the Wii and import PS3 then forget.

Is there a consensus that SW 4 > 4-II or is it pretty mixed? This one guy in a /vg/ thread on halfchan was shilling 4-II hard to me.

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