Pokemon Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon

Coliseum*

I enjoyed it too user
My favourite one since platinum

no

Why are you asking anybody here, OP? Nobody knows a damn thing about the games, yet.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokemon_Colosseum

Without a doubt. I mean, it's kinda hard to make something not worth at least $0.

X/Y was fucking terrible so you're not really saying much.

What the hell are you talking about, it's easily one of the best main series games to come out.

Boring =/= Comfy
It was fucking bland, and roughly 75% of the music was boring and never engaged you.
The fact that you don't even explore caverns like in the older games sucks as well, I fucking loved turnback cave and ice path from DP/HG respectively.

I'll type a long winded paragraph later, but I had issues with it. You're right about it being miles better than the shitheap called X/Y though.

Who still buys pokemon games?

It was pretty good, as a first game. You need to remember that first games have always sucked. Why do think no one ever remembers stuff like D/P or R/S or WB?

Lack of caves might have something to do with the region being based very closely on hawaii and since it's a relatively young volcanic island there hasn't been enough time for large caves to form.

Because 3rd versions are literally the same thing but with some extra stuff?

It'll patch up what Sun and Moon clearly cut (gyms, post game story)- but it still has the issues the games do (trainers are too easy and use too few pokes, game is a path rather than having multiple paths that converge on gyms, no way to turn off Adrenaline Orb's effects when you want to catch something or the fact you can't send out a second poke in SoS battles).
The story was better- if only in presentation, and the meta is surprisingly better now it's restricted to just pokes in Sun/Moon and no Mega stones. Rather than the same 9 Pokes over and over, you get the same 4 or 5, but the combinations and tactics are more diverse. Not to mention people are working out new ways and tactics. I imagine once the old pokes are allowed back in that'll all go out the fucking window bar Tapus.

Pokemon games at this stage should be only bought once they are down to half price IMO. They're "comfy" games. Not too challenging, but a skinner box to pass the time. And waiting a few months means the online meta settles, so you can decide if it's worth playing the online.
Word of warning: Ninty & Gamefreak are much stricter with hacked games going online now. Even if you just pirated it, look into how to avoid setting off any flags or you'll get banned from using that game online.
But being your using a cracked 3DS to do it, they'll be a fix for it soon. And it doesn't even stop your 3DS access the net for other things- just that Pokemon game/save file.

I remember every Pokemon game because every game is great

There are still a fuckload of minitrumps and beaner rattatas, your argument is flawed.
You also forget that it's fantasy. Hell, X/Y had a better roster of wild pokemon.
Also, there ARE caves in Hawaii. It's as if you think caves in japan are fucking mazes too.
destination360.com/north-america/us/hawaii/caves

I respectfully disagree

Last time I felt hype for Pokemon was R/S.

Now it's for the core Switch RPG developed by Game Freak, I hope they don't half ass it.
The same ol' Pokemon format got boring for me when D/P dropped.

Make like a Lickilicky and fucking kill yourself.

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Not all change is good change. You can replace a piece of tofu with a piece of shit, and obviously people aren't gonna wanna eat it.

Problem is, they skipped over what would have been Z. It's had a knock on since then (cramming in stuff that would have been in Z- like Zygarde's other form) and they've rushed to release games while Pokemon Go was a thing.

Now we've got feature knock-on and it'll fuck up the franchise until they take time out. And being they'll be pressured to get shit on the switch- I can't see it happening.

Ultra will be rushed out to work on the Switch.
The Switch will be rushed out to keep it alive.
Then the next game will have features from the Switch version that they cut, so it'll be a Frankenstein, and/or rushed for other reasons.

I liked it, but I think it was due to nostalgia pandering and tickling my autism just right.
But I still know its a bad RPG from any other standpoint.

XY were great. There are no bad Pokemon games.

I own a Switch and know a game not made for ten year old hardware is coming in a year, that alone is reason not to.

Aside from that i didn't really like sun/moon. Love the art style, music, island theme and as a ghostfag i loved new pokemon like pallosand and mimikyu and the upcoming fightan smokespook, but something about the game felt really shallow and unsatisfying to me for reasons i cant quite put my finger on.

So i'll wait for the dimaond/pearl remakes on switch i guess.

But that's not a change.

The zygarde shit was added because they realized how shit X/Y was so they skipped making Z but didn't want the concept to go to waste.

You are wrong.

You're right. It just a re-skinned tofu.
How do we make Pokémon evolve?

Usually you just get them to a high enough level but sometimes an item and/or trading is required.

This is mostly true. Those extra add ons and the story usualy make things much better. D/P were considered terrible and then Platinum came and solved the many issues the Region had.

The fact they didn't made another Kalos game really took me by surprise. That and ORAS being shit. All they had to do was update Emerald's graphics. That can't be hard to do

But then they have to dumb down for new people, and cut Battle Frontier because more dumbing down or couldn't fit it in.

Hell, isn't the new Pokemon Director basically wanting the iPhone audience?

It fixed none of X/Y's flaws and added more flaws. The last good pokemon games were B2/W2

But I'm not wrong, I just have different opinions from you.

You fucking bitch.

The 3DS is not 10 years old

That would be Masuda who has being since the beguining. Each game had a different director. ORAS and S&M were directed by Ohmori or whatever you spell his name. That being said, Masuda still had a lot of influence on G6. If I had to name a cancer, it would be him

But you are wrong, X/Y are objectively shit and even in gen 7 their blights on the series continues.

I don't care what you think, I liked them therefore they're good

4 U

That can not be true, for I did not like them therefor they are bad.

My two cents:
- Since VGC is always double battles, all trainer battles are double battles. Wild battles start or are mostly single, but some start as doubles or become SOS/Horde battles.

- Get the game on a system that can (in theory) handle a horde battle + your two Pokemon (7 in total) and have the most processor intense weather/hazards/Pokemon models/arena/etc active.

- Give the Pokemon more animation beyond physical/special or roar/getting hit. Stadium had a ton of personality with just a few movements while the modern games feel limited. Have punches, tackles, kicks, running, flying, shuddering from poison, taking a hit, taking a big hit, taking a hit that makes it faint, etc.

- Rebalance the whole meta. Currently there's around 20 VGC competent pokes, and everyone uses around 10. I don't expect to be able to use early route rodents & bugs, but I say aim for 40 viable pokes so then at worse you have a meta with 20. Maybe even look into altering how battles work (give Pokemon more equipment slots like a normal RPG character? Let them have more than one ability active?)

- Make game single-player more challenging. A rebalanced meta helps this since both players and trainers have stronger pokes. Give the trainers better AI to pull off more than using their strongest move. Then, rather than make bosses heal their own Pokemon over and over- have their main Pokemon be a higher level. Rather than giving Brock a level 11 Onix and having the final trainer on the next route have something at level 12, give him a level 16 Onix- something 5 levels or more higher than what the player should be (enough to be a challenge, but too far to grind everyone for). Or, stop players leaving gyms or using potions when they enter a gym.

- Have "Battle Factory" style tournaments. It shows off a more diverse range of pokes, developers show off unique builds, and maybe even the entrants get to transfer their final teams to their official games.

- Change color of shiny Pokemon as you wish. Not even sliders, just that same color saturation on the texture but in 7 to 10 major colors.

But, why compete with SMT or Persona or Dragon Quest when you make money hand over fist selling a "snack RPG"?

Well, user. I like You a lot.

But I liked Gen 5's first game. Granted I played it years down the line after being turned off by Diamond and competitive fags

WOW!
You delivered! Fucking rad suggestions user!

No, but the hardware on it is.

Not that it'd even happen, but imagine what the series could do on Vita or even PC.

Shove some slavs or autist japs in and you'll get hair physiques on shit like Arcanine.

I dunno about you guys but I hated both games

I watched a Sun/Moon video on the Vita and it looked fucking amazing.

I mean, just take a look at what the digimon series looks like on consoles.

You may just be retarded then.

But that raises the question of what would your second starter be? They can't only give you 1 because you wouldn't be able to do any trainer battles until you do something that's technically optional. Probably something like an eevee or some shit. Still, a lot of people don't like doubles so this could harm the game more than help it unless it's a purely optional thing.
The 3ds can only handle so much, so this would have to be purely a switch thing, otherwise model quality would have to be sacrificed.
More like tear everything down and redo everything from scratch. In early gens most pokemon were essentially given stats and random and only a few that got lucky are still worth a shit and in more recent games they've figured out shit like "high speed+attacking stat+movepool=powerful" but go way to far and we get dumb broken shit that makes the bad pokemon even worse by comparison. Redo everything from the ground up to equalize power levels and get rid of the dumb broken shit.
Again, would have to be optional because a large portion of the playerbase is young japenis children who can't handle anything more complex than "use super effective attack".
So bring back frontier?
Doesn't having control over them kinda defeat the point?

Die and fall into obscurity before being revived via a port to 3ds?

tfw no mewtwo bf

I clicked it. I knew what this was going to be and I clicked it.

Double Hordes sound interesting. SOS should be something that is triggered by an item and/or reserved for special battles. I don't think they should change from Singles to Dubs, singles is still the most popular format. I do believe that they should make all of the battle formats relevant during the Story. Yes, this includes Triples and Rotation.
Agreed. That being said, GF did not developed Stadium/Orre/BR. If we are approaching the Graphic aspect of it, on a personal level, I would not mind something like Pokken. The FPS and Lag issues that G7 has originate from GF using very high definition Models that the 3DS can’t handle. So, in theory, they only need to animate them at these point.
I do agree that several Pokémon need some balancing but I don’t think the way battles work needs any change. I rather see them making more items relevant, in the Meta people use the same items, Leftovers (or equivalent), Choice Scarf/Band/Lens, Life orb, Z-Crystal or Focus Sash
Agreed.
Just add every facility from the Battle Frontier and the PWT. That would be enough for most people to say “Best Pokémon Game Ever”. Also make the Grind easier. Let us get to LV 100 with ease, these of course would be a POST Game content thing. After you beat the Hidden Boss (Red in the case of HGSS), make breeding easier and Hyper Training something you pay with Poke and not that bullshit super ultra-rare currency they currently use. Same for the Move Relearner

STOP

I don't wanna

Weren't they removed entirely?

Yes, because it's on the 3DS, so that amount of money is 0.

Of course not, you fucking faggot.

Yes they were. I want them back.

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You tellin me you want more beauty contests?

IT WILL BE SHIT

Pokémon battles in general are shitty formats tbh

This is the kind of meme baggage the series needs to leave behind

wait what

How the fuck do you connect battle formats not even the game wanted to play with alternate side shit?

Retard.
The games have always been linear and railroaded. Being able to get lost in some worthless side cave is not open world.
Would you rather have HMs back?
The fuck you on about?
You are retarded.

Wasted dubs.

Steel type is strong as fuck right now thanks to great defenses and countering Fairy.

Ride pokemon are infinitely better than HMs wasting move slots.

No clue what you're even talking about here? Are you whining about Conversion or something?

Solgaleo is a bit lackluster, but not bad. Lunala is really solid offensively, but has exploitable weaknesses to ghost and especially dark.

Man, looking through your post history. You sound defensive as fuck You need to talk about something user?

I just want an useful ice type pokemon that i can make my spirit animal.

I'm sick of people being retarded and pokemon pissing away the potential it had. Excuse me for having standards.

Give suggestions then. To me it sounds like you're defending the status quo.

Standards for everything but your own conduct, apparently.

Are you bullying my ortography because technically useful is spelled as yuseful?

Steels are the best fairy killers and still the best defensive Type on the game.

Agreed

You are the kind of person who wants finite TMs back, aren't you?

Pic related

The Tapus are raping the Meta a new one in both OU and VGC. The Cover Legendaries are okay by legendary standars.

That's dumb, even if Colo/Gale of Darkness did the same thing.
Agreed, even Battle Revolution had the right idea by making the animations for moves that make contact involve the Pokemon actually running up to a target to make contact.
What do you define as "meta"? VGC is just one meta and its rules don't apply everywhere. And why should every Pokemon be viable?
That would do the opposite of balancing the meta.
Okay.

Bad?

See
After the failed abortion that was gen 6 there's no salvaging this game, it needs a complete overhaul.

You ESL or some shit?

I just accidentally said spelling instead of pronunciation. but yes

Ah, good. You redeemed yourself. Carry on.

Ah, good. You redeemed yourself. Carry on then.

Define a "complete overhaul".

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Everything but what X/Y tried.
I recommend firing a good chunk of the gamefreak crew

Start by redoing the stats of every pokemon. Give everything an intended role and the tools to actually perform that role. Pokemon can have very similar roles but still be different enough that one doesn't strictly outclass the other, gastrodon vs quagsire is a great example of this. While it's obvious that not everything can be good, and in fact some things needs to be bad by design so the good things are actually good by comparison, the gap between what is worth using and what isn't is way to wide.
The type chart could also use some adjustments, most notably when it comes to ice. I can't give too many specifics because this is something that requires testing, but having or not having a type shouldn't be what makes or breaks a pokemon by itself. Sure, types should also have roles that they gravitate towards but they should also be able to step outside of those roles and be able to perform them to some degree.
tl;dr just redo the numbers but put some fucking effort in this time.

(((It'll be well worth the shekels, goyim. Don't worry about it.)))

But seriously, we have no info about it yet, so I dunno.

My good sir, your taste is shit.

Well it's not very hard to be better than X and Y, is it? Sun and Moon were decent overall. They made some nice QoL improvements and the new pojes are breddy gud (if a bit slow), but everything was so easy and railroaded. I mean, they have four fucking islands, could they not make it more open?

Ferrothorn says hi.
To be fair, all Pokemon games have been like this. Even the ones genwunners like to pretend were open suffered from this in the end.
Yeah, I miss having to lug around one Pokemon loaded with Fly, Stength, Cut, and Rock Smash, and another loaded with Surf and Waterfall.
wut?

Fuck, forgot to link.

What do you propose then?

The fucking obvious solution
Your pokemon can do shit, not dependant on specific moves
How is this so hard

So you enjoy having shitty restrictions placed on your team just so you can move around? Because I sure do love carrying around a useless pidgey instead of a 6th I'd actually want to use.

Good answer. Pokemon Prism did this very well. Just use a pokemon with sharp ends to cut shit, an electric pokemon to charge dead connections and a water Pokémon to surf.

It would mean Game freak would have to animate 800 characters doing menial tasks

If it can do stuff then it's not useless
Also what fucking world do you live in where you think you'd be forced to carry around some niche unevolved pokemon

They didn't have to do that for any other pokemon game they've ever made, why is that suddenly a restriction now?

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I got a good solution. Use your starter to ride and such, and then use taxi pokemon to do other shit, if an over world model isn't needed, then just use the quick "X used Jizz" animation for clearing obstacles.

Use torkoal to surf

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So, what HMs did but instead of being linked to a Move it would be linked to a Pokémon’s physiology (meaning: Fishes and water types can “Surf”, flying types and things that fly can “Fly”, etc. ). That would be a nice solution but it still restricts your teambuilding. You NEED pokemon who can do that in your team, I rather just call a taxi but that is not a bad idea.

I wouldn't even call that a restriction when for things like Cut or Strenght they could just do what they did in previous Gens and just show a cut in of the pokemon and thier cry. For Fly and Surf, I suppose what they did for ORAS would work.

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A world where there are no good flying types/none I like or want to use and I don't want to waste any exp on a pokemon that's still worthless in battle even after it evolves.

Reminder that pokemon can only know 4 moves and a snorlax won't be doing jack shit for damage with surf.

Why not both? I like both.

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Okay, so you fags aren't some of the "hurr make pokeymans an action rpg/mmo" crowd. Good.

Do you think the heads of a dodrio/doduo kiss?

Unless the Pokémon are as smooth as they were in pokken. Then no fucking thank you, programming each individual pokemon would be fucking HELL, not to mention time consuming. It would take at LEAST a decade to perfect something like that. Bad business decision.
Though, in my fantasy land where anything can happen, that sounds amazing.

An mmo would be fucking terrible and anyone with a brain knows this.

What if one is hetero and the other is full gay, and the gay one forces the hetero to suck gurdurr cock ha ha
I'm not gay but it sounds really funny, what if hetero dodrio screams and gags on his semen and is forced to do anal while the other one moans like a bitch ha ha

Imagine them getting tagteamed by machamp and hetero dodrio is force to become a cockslevee ha ha

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Make it like GBA sprites
replace NPC trainers with player trainers
You only see people near a range of your average pokemon level

I imagine if you got autistic enough you could come up with enough overlapping bullshit that teambuilding wouldn't be much of an issue
Why surf when you can levitate? Why levitate when you can fly? Why fly when you can teleport? et cetera

Give you a free version exclusive legendary with a free mega stone that transforms it into a generic form that can be shared across both versions to save on modeling work?

you tellin me pokegen wouldn't have been amazing?

It wouldn't.

So levels 1-90 is dead and the moment you get a level 91-100 poke, it's like Tokyo.

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Yes considering it was garbage

There'd be a hump somewhere in the middle of people who beat the game and didn't care enough to grind the rest of the way up

So why the fuck would they still be playing?

It's an "I want to believe" situation. Where you know shit is just impossible, and if it IS possible, it's going to be really shallow and unpolished.

Holy shit yes

I recommend making lower level pokemon just run away or something.

Lele is the best Tapu

For all of the postgame and online features, which all generally set levels to 50 anyway

Yes, all the postgame features in this non existent mmo that for some reason doesn't give a shit about the level cap when the mechanics value levels over everything else.

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BEGONE LELE

Well pardon me, I thought the idea was to make a good game

It's probably going to be something like black2/white2
Which were considerable sequels that fleshed out the original games that gen at the cost of, if I remember right, the entralink feature being cut.

Well you already failed at step one.

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The difference is that BW was already good to begin with

>mfw all of the complaints in this thread are solved by the tabletop game

But that brings up the issue of needing other people to play at all.

The TCG is retarded bullshit.
The TCG is retarded bullshit.

They needed to make the early bug types reclassed into fragile speedsters.

As it stands alot of bug types are worthless completly and utterly worthless.

Butterfree at least for the games i played gen 1/2/4/5 was worthless once you got a proper pychic type with bug moves to.

The only real fix is to rebalance stats to make them have high special attack or high regular attack and speed but I do not see that happening.

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My biggest hope is that its postgame has something even remotely similar to BW2's PWT. The Battle Tree having characters from every previous generation besides the 2nd tells me they have the ability to do it but they just didn't want to for some reason.

If what the announcements say is correct this isn't even something like Black 2 and White 2, this will be more akin to a fan mod with all the same environments with some "alternate" story shoved in place of the original and some new pokemon distribution all around.

What? Any well built team can either OHKO or 2-hitter Steel Types, unless you're in complete defenseive mode , most steel types are better suited for attacking – while having the worst fucking move pools possible.

My nigga , the best Fairy counter is a fucking Dragon if you even bother to do the smallest amount of stat training.

This is Holla Forums. Even back on cuckchan, Holla Forums was filled with faggots who posted gay pokemon porn with a handful of ss and some loli stuff.
If you expected anything different, gamefaqs is that way.

Steel type user here. Ferrothorn is an absolutely stellar wall. The only things that even remotely threaten it are fighting and fire.

Shit, I like Haxorus too but even I know that's bullshit.

They made his final form a fucking gundam so I'm not too miffed about that getting shoved into S&M

smh

how about this, fam :^)

worse then the gay shit

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Third pic is good, but that's only because it doesn't actually resemble Jinx apart from colouration.

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See this shit? See this shit right here? This shit is NOT okay.

roost temporarily removes the user's flying type

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WHEN THE FUCK DID THEY DO THAT?
It doesn't say fucking anywhere (in the game) that happens.

since the move debuted in Gen 4.

I've NEVER encountered a situation where that happens, and I've been playing since gen 1 and never missed a title.

glad that was my brother's game footage and not mine

Is there a pokemon more useless than he last two "pikachu knockoffs"?

Holy shit you are a retarded motherfucker
But another user has already stated this so no need to say anything else.
Nobody fucking uses gardevoir because it's shit.
Steel takes neutral from ghost. Also bisharp is OU so a lot of people use it.
Oh no something resists steel, a type that's not amazing offensively. Are you trying to sweep using steel types with only steel moves or something?
It's almost like these types are common for attacking so things can actually hurt the type that resists 10 out of the 18 types.
Yeah this is not worth the effort. Pokemon is far, far from an actually balanced game but holy fuck you are dumb.

It's only important when you play against another person, as most of the time you play NPCs your mons will outspeed.

It only lasts for the turn it's used in, it doesn't carry over to the next one, even if the user moved last. Additionally, levitating pokemon do not lose their ground immunity.

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Evidently. Good to know.

Are you only playing against waifufags/other retards? Or the same 1 person?
Last I checked ghosts didn't frequently have 130+ in one attacking stat, 100+ in the other with 120+ base power moves on either end, an extremely powerful boosting move, resists out the ass and absurdly huge movepools. Only 3 types resist normal in any way, so why don't you bitch about that too?
You are under the impression that steel is bad defensively because these types are common but in reality these types are common because steel is good defensively. You're just too retarded to realize this.
Base 80 hp/95 sp def is pretty decent bulk with no investment. And why the fuck is that metagross not running bullet punch?
Literally everything you say is retarded with the one exception of knowing the megas are cancer. I mean for fucks sake you think gardevoir is actually good somehow.

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And ghost is only good against itself and psychic. It's a solid neutral option and that's it.
The average sp att among fully evolved ghost types is 86. There's gengar and chandelure and nothing else.
Do you not ev train or breed for IVs or some shit?
Nigga u dum. Stop posting any time.

I KNOW WHAT THAT IS!

They're a case of much better or much worse when I played.
So many times I was able to OTK the boss with a super effective move when I'm assured they're meant to swarm you over longer fights (Almost always when a Z move with type advantage was given to you earlier) worst example of this I remember, right before the dragon trial a woman just hands you the fairy Z move for free.
And the actual content of the challenges range from "cool challenge" tier to "Why wasn't this just a gym" tier to "wow it's fucking nothing" tier

Look, I know you want to push that it's "fair and balanced", but look at it this way; most types have about 3 types they are GOOD against and 3 types they are BAD against.

Ghost has the ability to lash out at basically anything and not suffer the "not very effective" problem unless it's hitting Dark, with Normal not able to be hit (though normal also can't hit it in return). Add to it that the most used ghost types (gengar, chandelure) have massive special attack, and that most PSYCHIC types with high special attack will have shadow ball, removing a types resistance to ghost is just pandering to ghosts and not balancing gameplay.

I couldn't get through the second island, the game was too talky. Is there a mod that takes that out? It shouldn't be that hard.

Z moves were such shit, I never ended up using any, much like mega evolutions, it's just some pathetic attempt to balance the game by breaking one of it's legs.

I ALSO FORGOT THE MOST DAMAGING THINGS

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At least I know what roost does.

Meanwhile being weak to Dark is pretty fucking huge. The thing about Ghosts and Psychic types is that usually they have very low physical defence.
Throw in moves like Sucker Punch, Foul Play and Knock off which have high power and an enormous availability. Even Crunch has a wide selection of pokemon that can learn it meaning that all that is needed to KO Ghosts and Psychic types is any pokemon with access to these moves.
Then add in Shadow Sneak which is learned by pokemon such as Gallade and Muk.

The thing with Gengar and Chandelure is that as soon as you survive a hit from them or get in before them then they're pretty much fucked. A sucker punch will easily send Gengar packing and Chandelure might resist a Non-STAB Sucker punch but probably wont survive another attack afterwards.
Add in that Ghosts don't have any reliable means of recovery and thus they're pretty fucked by common Dark attacks.

But lets take some other common ghost types
Sableye.
- Has decent recovery
- Prankster on Normal and Decent Bulk on Mega, which also gets Magic Bounce
- Gets fucked by any fairy type that packs Pixilate + Hypervoice combo or Synchronize Umbreon

Alola-Marowak
- Weak to Sneaky Stones
- Weak to EQ
- Fucked by Foul Play, Intimidate,
- Slow as fuck

Even taking in account that most psychic types have access to Shadow ball, they're still ultimately fucked by Dark types or anything that packs Sucker Punch or Knock off due to their low defence.

If anything I'd say the Steel type nerf boosted Dark types more-so than Ghosts due to Knock off being powered up and Foul Play becoming more common meaning that Steel types which were reliant on items (Steelix, Bastiodon) or Physical Steel types (Metagross, Excadrill) were fucked by Dark Types.

So is Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon a S/M remake or a sequel to S/M?

Continuing on from my point.
If Shadowball is such a common threat, then why is it that Slowbro was ranked higher than Slowking before Slowbro got it's Mega Evolution.
The only difference between the two was that Slowbro has 110 Defence and 80 Sp.D whereas Slowking has 80 Def and 110 Sp.D
Surely by your thought trail, Slowking would be the better one since it is more likely to survive a Shadow ball compared to Slowbro, however, Slowbro has always found to have a much higher usage.

We don't even know, it could be a fucking slightly altered game for all we know

It's the Black 2/White 2. 4 versions is jewier than 3, after all.

It's S/M Remix edition.

Please don't compare B2/W2 to US/UM, at least B2/W2 continued B/W's story and actually had content added to the game.

honestly sun and moon is way better then x and y i hope that ultra sun and moon is the platinum to those games

BW2 were not 3rd versions thought, they were vastly superior sequels.

Hard to say at these point. The trailers were vague as fuck but the I see it, it neither a sequel or a 3rd version. Rather a story that happens in Paralel Universe, in other words, it happens at the same time in another version of Alola. Remember that when you take your Solgaleo/Lunala back to the Altar during the Post game you get a Cosmog after a cutscene were we see the Legendary we didn't get? It could be that this game takes place in the Universe from were these one comes from.

These would be ideal, I hope that too but only time will tell.

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Bad feel.

Togedemaru has Lightning Rod as an ability, immunity to Toxic, plus Fake Out, Encore, and Zing Zap so it has a solid niche as support in VGC rain teams. Nothing can save Dedenne though.

Congratulations. You, this entire board in fact, got slid so fucking hard with dissing ever increasing DLC prices and season passes that somehow you are now fine with paid DLC at ALL.

Congratulations, the concept of DLC has thrown you so far that you now hate standalone expansions too

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Togedemaru is not alone in that regard. Most of Alola has shit movepools

Why are SuMo memes so shit?

Who cares? I'll pirate it anyways

Its the best Pokemon Games in fucking years. It actually tried shaking up the formula and it gave the characters ACTUAL PERSONALITY. SunMo are great

I know Holla Forums isn't one person and I may be strawmanning here. But the same people who seemed to have come to the consensus that SunMo are bad are the same group of people who actually liked Black and White even though they were both shit. Different strokes for different folks I guess. Even with mass piracy on the 3DS, Sun and Moon are the fastest selling Pokemon titles in the franchise history thanks to Pokemon Go, so better get used to seeing more games like them.

Because it takes years to make the games and the last gen was even worse
Being slightly better than shit doesn't make it good

I wouldn't go far enough to say it's the worst bnut… easily the best? Gimmie what you're smokin man that must be some good shit.

and oh shit I forgot

Oh good, two games I won't be playing because they're nearly identical to two other games that aren't even a year old yet. This is like another Pokemon Blue.

Bulbasaur, use SCREECh

Do I need to go through the list of OU and UU steel type mons and how they outnumber pretty much every other type

If USUM has the content of BW2 and HG/SS then I think it will be the best 3DS Pokemon game by a mile.

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