PS2

I got the idea to play a retro PS2 game and I narrowed it down to three choices: King's Field The Ancient City, Wizardry Tale of the Forsaken Land and Summoner.

Which one would you recommend and why?

While here, let's have a PS2 games thread.

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King's Field IV is comfy as fuck

Summoner because it's the only game of those three that I have played. It's pretty cool.

choose randomly, and just play one after another!! No need to think about it too much.

Armored Core Last Raven, pussboy
No Human Plus either

Now that I have all the games to play, can't decide what to play

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The PS2 is almost 18 years old, I know for a fact that one of the games that OP posted are about 17 years old.

They are all quite long so I only have time for one right now.

PS2 games are retro now. Those born at the time the PS2 was released will be able to vote by next year.

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I've been playing Valkyrie Profile 2 on the emulator. It looks beautiful upscaled but there are shit tons of graphical glitches. Shame the same can be said for the good SMTs (although Raidou runs like a fucking dream somehow).

It's like saying that an Atari was old in the 90s. It wasn't retro, but it was what your older brother or sister played as a kid.

Used PS2s are cheap and plentiful.

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I still have my giant old ass PS2, still in top working condition. The only problem is that most of my dual layered games (WA:ACF, Xenosaga 1) are scratched up beyond usability. I once let a used (Like New! they said, in reality, scratched to high heaven) copy of Rogue Galaxy play a cutscene on it frame by frame for eight hours while at college. Good times. Emulator is simply psychologically easier than wiring things up again, and for most games plays as well if not better than the original hardware (if I was on my PC I'd insert a bunch of 8x16a Katamari screens, those are a treat).

How can emuniggers be so stupid?

Yes, if a game plays at same speed with no glitches and in higher resolution, it is by definition playing better than the original.

It really is the issue with piracy and loading/emulation. Too much variety with little to no cost on your end can lead to a noticeable indecisiveness. Granted, I'm not calling downloading shit bad, just that it can have a side effect of a fuckhuge backlog. I myself am currently stuck trying to figure out what I want to seriously start up next, and it's been a few weeks now since I finished what I'd been playing last.


Personally, I find that sixth gen is in a sort of "no man's land" as far as where it falls now: it's old enough that the earliest games in the libraries for the systems that fall into it will hit two decades old in just a few years (and thus isn't quite what I'd call "current"), but is lacking some of the feel that generations prior to it had (and thus isn't what I'd personally call "retro" either). Of course, different people and communities will have different parameters for where they draw the line, and thus define "retro" differently (for example, half/vr/ had a hard "sub-2000" rule, while /vr/ here is up through 2003 and thus partial sixth gen; shame /vr/ here is dead). And reselling scalper scum will of course call whatever they want "retro" if it stands to increase speed and/or value of sales. For fuck's sake, Fucking Gamestop even tagged Xenoblade as "vintage" when they got a reprint of it about three years back as justification to ask $90 for what ought to have been $50.


Could just use an HDD with loaders if you've got a fatty. To each their own though. I can't use PCSX2 on my toaster, but from what I've heard it's got it's benefits and downsides (one of which, at least temporarily, being PCSX2 wiki being shut down; something about the wiki software not working right with the current PHP).

There really needs to be something done about people abusing the condition tags on online markets. All too often you'll see something listed as "great" or "like new" only for it to only apply to the disc/cartridge, while the manual, cover, and case are in tatters/torn/sunbleached/water damaged/etc. And even it applying to the game disc or cart itself can be an issue. Until then, it's best to actually ask for images to back up claims, and avoid people saying they can't ("it's in a warehouse") or who dodge the question being asked.

Might be a long shot, depending on where you live and how bad off those discs are, but you might check if there's a game store around you with a professional grade disc cleaner/buffer. I know one that charges a few dollars per disc cleaned, but they can get most disc based games that aren't gouged working again, and will even pop it into store systems for you to make sure it's working properly.

I suppose on another note, Xenosaga Episode I's still pretty cheap if you were to actually want to replace it. Wild Arms: ACF though, not so much.

Man it's such a shame ACF dropped so much of the character customization (equipment mostly) for the PS system. I understand why they did it (every character has at least two alternative upgrade methods instead on top of PS) but it makes the game so easy to break (Jane and Adlehyde).

Sorry for using PSX version, the instrumentation is better than the PS2 version.
Damnit, WA6 hwhen?

Emuniggers everyone

Any idea how I can get a modded ps2 in the UK?

I got some Jap wrasslin' games I want to play.

I dont understand what you are memeing about, smash bros brawl for example (because I was just playing it earlier) runs at about 50-60 fps on dolphin in my shitbox, where beleive its about 45 on the wii
same resolution, works right, higher framerate it literally works better.

Yeah modern-day consoles are basically just shit PCs. It's a whole different kettle of ballgames compared to older hardware.

I find it a bigger shame that Agetec apparently failed to respect the game, delaying it multiple times (to the point it sold like crap because low hype at that point), yet the English script is still about on par with WA1's script (and screws shit up about as often as it actually improves things). Admittedly though I'm not sure if the overworld bug was Media.Vision's doing, or if Agetec somehow caused it.

Which isn't to say that I dislike ACF, I like both it and the original about the same, which is to say I like both quite a bit, but still.


Monkey's paw, user. Kaneko, and to my knowledge Media.Vision themselves, were wanting to make a new entry for the PS4 and/or Vita (maybe even as a collaboration between Media.Vision and Kaneko's own group at Witchcraft, with music by Naruke, Agematsu, and Kouda?). Sony, as the rights holder for the franchise, seemed interested in that for a while, before going "fuck it" and dumping all effort with the series into a fucking mobile reboot. Here I'd thought that their series were safe from that treatment, being that they own their own line of consoles, but nope, they decided to prove that wrong with Wild Arms and Arc the Lad.

Given the circumstances, I suspect that either A) that will be "Wild Arms 6" (ala "Breath of Fire 6") if it's not just given the "generic unnumbered reboot title" treatment, or B), "Wild Arms 6" isn't going to be happening. These fucking reboots keep putting series and their fans in a catch 22 in most cases, where if the reboot is popular, the company is going to have to cater to the new audience (in this case, mobile shitters), and if it doesn't do well, it goes back in the grave.

Sadly seems like the only good thing to have come from the series 20th anniversary is a bit of new official artwork (a few color images and sketches by Sasaki), and this anniversary arrangement Naruke's got in the works, but who knows when it'll be ready for release.
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Ability to run out of region discs, or do you care what format? Because a fatty with an IDE set up can bypass the region lock.

get a fat ps2 and apply freemcboot

You console shills are really desperate. Emulation cuts into your rerelease shekels and no amount of LARPing as Holla Forums will stop it.

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The PS2 is as old now as the NES was when the PS2 launched.

The sword of time will pierce our skins :^(

Time is an endless abyss that will return to nothingness.
(or as close to nothingness as quarks can be.)

Happens often enough. Discrepancies like that tend to make me curious about the games pertaining to them, and of course, it's not like "professional" reviewers are always apt to get what people that like a certain genre/playstyle are going to want more or less focus put on, or in some cases even bother to play the game properly to give it its due time (IGN's infamous "3/10" God Hand review comes to mind). These days, I tend to put a lot more weight on what actual consumers say about something (including fellow anons, albeit with a grain of salt even then) instead.

Its just after 3d graphics became bearable the time has stopped. Look at Black, Shadow of the Colossus RE4, GoW2, Tekken 5, MGS3, Yakuza 2, they all have human looking characters and high quality animation. Some games still come out with ps2 graphics, and good design is enough to satisfy human eye more than cool ass shaders.

And then we got only shit games since 2007 and by stopping playing anything new, we still haven't fully realized how broken our dreams of better future were. That includes how the world itself have changed. Our only true accomplishments in gaming are piracy, emulation and higher resolution.

Ace combat, nigger

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Time pierces like an arrow, and human lives curve like bows

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Honestly in 20 years when i turn 50 i will probably destroy my pancreas and be glad i am close to death rather than get sad by getting old. If this world won't turn to dust of course.

You did this on purpose, didn't you, OP?

The king's field series is based upon careful exploration, which critics rushing through to write their napkin review don't understand.

"Why are there no enemies in this area? I wanna fight something!"
"Where do I go?!"
"Why is it so sloooow? Why can't I jump? Where's my action flashy moves?"

and so on.

That said, IV is the weakest of the three that made it over here, IMO. It's definitely the prettiest, but adding item durability did nothing for the series. It has the lamest final battle by far and a lot of things feel disconnected both within itself and with the rest of the series.

Still an awesome game for those who like to explore and see things with the occasional slash and stab.

FUCK EVERY WIDDA AREA EVER

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Elaborate, spergeloremaster.

Die while you are still cogent. I worked in a nursing home for a while, there are things worse than death, and being unable to comprehend why you are in pain/trapped is one of them.

Oh, so that's why they've made a remake, because its 2017!

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There's a number of potentials (I'm trying to make a larger list of it for future greentext purposes), but there's a few prevalent standouts:

If the copyright term had remained the original 14 years a significant part of the PS2 library would be free to play legally. People would even be free to reprint and republish those rare games that are expensive today.

There were off the record discussions with several JP BaNco staffs saying that if Recode sells well they then intend to push for an actual remake of IMOQ with all the story content that never made it. If so I hope they actually include the characters and story content from the novels and improve the battle system

Would be nice if they aim to fix translation errors in bringing G.U.'s remake over, as well as an IMOQ remake if that does actually happen (of note, fixing that spot in Redemption where the text bugs out, and Nuke's jokes in the original series). Though of course, not simply porting the script (or being unable to port the script, if there's more text/changed text in the remake's JP script) does leave opportunity to fuck with the translation, given current trends and all.

How many of these "buy Y if you want X" deals have actually been delivered?

Well, I can't recall if Namco outright held it hostage, but I do remember Namco stating, before Tales of Xillia had even had the shelves here yet, that they were so impressed with western preorder figures (actual marketing helps niche games, who knew?) that they confirmed they would bring Xillia 2 overseas as well, which some fans had feared might remain Japan only before then. Granted, that wasn't in regard to a remake being brought over, or a remake even being created, but still a case where the previous sales helped secure a release of something possibly more desired.

As for an IMOQ remake, I'd wager that if sales figures are going to be the make-it-or-break-it point, there's likely to be a lot more weight on the local Japanese sales end than west, given how .hack hasn't exactly been a best seller here. To be fair, I'm not sure how much the difference in sales out there and out here were for the series in the past (I'd wager Japan doesn't have to deal with $150-200+ scalper resale prices though), but the big issue that I can see is what Namco's going to be comparing Last Recode's sales against. Are they going to look at its figures on its own? Will its sales be in comparison to the prior PS2 incarnations of G.U.? Will they be pitting it against fucking Sword Art Online's sales (given SAO has usurped .hack's spot as Namco's ongoing MMO-sim JRPG) to see if it warrants giving CC2 funding for a full IMOQ remake? I'd pin that as the variable, but that's just me.

brawl runs at 60fps on the wii. it's locked at 60fps and I don't think it ever drops below that.

So will this allow me to play NTSC-J games?

I have a physical copy of the games I want to play.

it allows you to run applications which do, like OPL.

thanks. So basically I need to get my hands on a freemcboot memory card and then OPS and I'm set?

I could be wrong, but doesn't that only pertain to digitally stored/ran games? He's asking about bypassing the region lock for physically stored games, not digitally stored/run games on a drive.

Oh and I'm also in the UK, any ideas on where to get a freemcboot memory card?

If you have a computer with IDE buses you can write an image directly to the HDD.

The PS2 will never ever be retro. Retro is not defined by the age of something, it's a stylistc category. The kinds of games that are possible now are by and large possible on the PS2, you can't say the same for PS1 games. The term "retro" died with western arcades, which died with the Dreamcast.

So Matrix will never be a retro film either?

Retro is synonymous with the 2D era. Playstation and N64 are borderline, since that was a transitional generation. PS2 is the beginning of the current era, and wont be retro until the next big thing comes along and reinvents video games (maybe VR).

BETTER THAN THE ANIMU

PS2 is objectively retro at this point. It's only a year newer than the Dreamcast which has been considered retro for some time now, despite it having a much-longer lifespan and only being discontinued 4 years ago.

The SNES was considered retro by 2004 and was only 14 years old at that point. PS2 is 17 years old now.

Anyone who wants to argue about it at this point either has autism or is in-denial about what year it is.


>>>/vr/


Definitely do King's Field if you're a Dork Souls fan. Otherwise go for Wizardry.

I wanted to play through King's Field IV again after I finish III and Shadow Tower. I'm almost done with II. I remember getting to the end of the game and accidentally selling the Idol of Sorrow then killing the merchant and not being able to beat the game. I'd like to finish it again.

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Nigga i personally shilled for 8ch /vr/ to include PS2 and GBA discussion and it was allowed with the condition of avoiding cancerous games and that was 3 years ago, we are way ahead of you niggers

Maybe 8ch /vr/ isn't so bad but I remember cuckchan's /vr/ was (likely still is) autistic as fuck.

Show me an emulator without glitches, more so a PS2 emulator without glitches.

not to mention the fucking input lag

Pretendos like to pretend the PS2 was so great, but it was always outclassed by the gamecube.

The gamecube had no games.

thats not true it had like 4 or so

Dreamcast

PS2

Xbox

Gamecube

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