Vr wont be mainstream for 100s of years

It's certainly cheaper now, regardless of how would you judge that as bad or good.

Get Google Fiber, then you'll see.

But that's the definition of mainstream.

Motion controls already found their niche in the 90s.

The fuck is this supposed to mean? Are people actually afraid that VR will reprogram them to forget how to breathe or some nonsense?

There's a possibility that future games could brainwash you. You could start a game as a masculine and secure man and come out a faggot.

That sounds like some conspiracy theory bullshit, unless you're talking with constant exposure over decades. The MSM brainwashes people via the television, too, but that takes 10-20 years and can be undone in a single day of fact-exposure.

They need to make a porn industry out of it. Same as vhs, computers, etc. Once you get a porn industry growing in it the customers will come, they'll sustain it until its cheap enough for everyone, then its mainstream.

You sound like you never had to use dial-up.

The internet was better back then, though. It was slow as frozen shit and took 2 full minutes just to stream a single 800x600 porn image to your browser, sure, but internet culture was just better. No screaming kiddos, no special interest groups, no culture wars or other obtrusive nonsense.
You just went and grabbed what you wanted and left. Or you played MUDs which were fun as fuck and had amazing and vibrant communities back then.

Also the modems sang to you back then. That shit was my jam.

Like always these threads are filled with dumbasses.

It depends what you mean by "internet".
It was slower and less convenient, but the content and expression of it was simpler and more focused and thus better.
On balance, I'd say that old internet trumps new internet.

What I don't get is why they want to put motion controls to this shit for every game. Why, what the fuck?

Give me a normal game with a normal controller but then put it in first person with VR. BAM, FUCKING DONE. That's all I want. It is SO HARD to do that?

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The worst part is the motion controls are what restrict so many games, that and the motion sickness issue, but without a standard controller you can only do so much, rail shooters and (((expierences))) are the only things VR has, mostly because those are the only things they can do with the controllers these headsets come with.

I really want to test out if i can play quake 3 or unreal tournament on keyboard in VR and not get motion sickness, because i never had it in my life.
But i don't want to pay for that.

I just want to play an RTS game in VR. It can't be that hard, can it?

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Yet another reason to start experiencing the non-V R to its fullest.

Most of these things are either untrue or things that haven't been fixed.
The real reason that VR will never take off is simply because it takes time to set up, especially with motion controls, and you need space. That's it. There isn't any other limiting factor.

Multiple games have already done that.

Nobody wants this headset shit.
Most peoples ideas of VR is actually having a direct link to your brain, so the game becomes reality.

I.e. never ever. Not physically possible. You can however remove your brain from your body and connect it to electrodes simulating some reality, then it'll be your reality.

Except it isn't.

Isn't that what Holla Forums is for?

There was once a time where that was true, but Holla Forums is no longer a place for gays.

You can't say that after all the things you've done to me.
You have to take responsibility.

Traps are gay user, imagine looking back on your life from your deathbed and remembering spending hours jacking off to pubescent anime boys.

What i don't get is, why must they have those glasses covering your eyes, like it's one of those picture-rolls you had as a kid, but more high-tech?

Why not instead have like a 4x4 box you step into, with 3d-projections all around reflecting the images and scenes around you, and you interact with it.

You're right, that path will only lead to regret. All of that focus spent on jacking off to images of boys could be better allocated into focusing to actually fuck them in real life instead.

user there's a reason why i jack off to traps.

Have faith in technology my friend. We should all work towards a brighter tomorrow and do our best in contributing to creating the perfect real life traps, cat girls, cat boys and everything inbetween.

Real people can't pull off the kind of boy i want, but an android could.
And if we manage to make artificial womb chambers i can have a family without ever having to talk to a 3dpd.

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The reason is because you're a faggot

Is the reason because you have shit taste, especially considering you post reaction pictures of shit renditions of Rinko Iori?

ARMS and splatoon use them.

Why would you do something this stupid?

RIP Lightgun genre.
You were killed by filthy american senators.

One day, VR will become the scourge of the vidya industry and the internet at large

I didn't even notice they were gone, since I haven't been to an arcade in like 15 years. So what happened? Some cry baby faggot complained how they were murder simulators or something?

Except lightguns aren't dead.

Every point made by the OP is completely retarded and not true. Is this a troll thread?

a decent VR setup (including VR system and PC) will cost about $1500
the VR market is flooded with crappy shovelware and gimmicky ports
VR COULD be optimized, but because of how terrible devs are, it won't be. hence why noone will get their hands on it.

also i just noticed they took out the email and name field. nice.

It will be done well by some indie companies, then big game corps will become jealous of the shekels being made by indie companies. Then we'll hit the glorious age of VR. We're already well on this path. OP is an idiot.

bumpu. Forgot I was saging.

Also, this price point will drop over time. We've only just hit a reasonably comfortable hardware level to support 2 monitor VR in the past few years.

you have shit taste.
iori a best

That wasn't my point, faggot.
That user, and now you, are posting SHIT ART of Rinko. Quit ruining a good mom with such garbage artwork.

Yeah VR isn't making it this time either, it's the early 90s all over again. Next time around in about 20 years it'll be more refined and nigh on tolerable as a concept.

Needs to be something worth seeing on it though. Porn *might* do the trick eventually

I agree we don't want headsets, hell even normal glasses are a pain in the ass half the time, anything heavier is untenable.

Most peoples idea of VR is a chump in an oversized helmet shouting, hitting a speaker, hurting their hand and then falling over.

Fuck having the game in your brain, for one thing the amount of jew corporate shit they'll be subliminally flashing you with with and for another what about when some orc comes at you with a battleaxe and you shit your pants in real life because it's too realistic looking for your brain to differentiate?

Gaming that directly hijacks your senses would be the greatest fucking thing ever.

I think we will see the first good attempt at pushing VR with the Switch 2, as long as the hardware is able to perform VR with either a small additional investment or if the accessories come in the box it will have the chance to succeed where others have failed.

That is if Nintendo are actually interested.

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Besides porn and specialty gaming, what good is VR?

Nothing really. But why not have it for those things?

Having an inplant that goes into the base of your neck where you can insert an electrode would essentially do the same thing. I'm sure we'll find a way. We're about 10 years away from being able to record dreams and thoughts.

What the shit OP, you're a troll

youtube.com/watch?v=A_RVgfvhqZs

Relive historic moments in VR.

More like waiting for patent expiration, we already can record and see surface thoughts and seeing through the eyes of living beings although with inexplicably shit resolution which raises more questions then it answers.

Christ you never regularly browsed the internet in the when it really hit off, it was unfocused, raw, and vulgar. it was simpler but only in the sense a bunch of stupid kids and teenagers are simple, if you try and browse the Holla Forums equivalent on old forums that are still not memory holed at least half of that shit would be arcane that only those in the "in" circle would vaguely understand, the other half bad art. Excluding the endless, and I mean endless, page long flamewars ah the good days when some cuckold would be given several dozen endless streams of pages calling him a faggot, with fuck yous and fuck offs, followed by the most hilarious attempts at sounding tough with as many vulgar phrases stuffed into a single paragraph.

And before when it was just a minority of hobbyists? They still called eachother faggots.

On the other hand it was a lot more empty and you could quickly run out of things to do. The reason content was memorable was because the standards were so low.

That's almost exactly what happened

>>>/back/

*Price forever dooming it ever reaching mainstream
the price will go down pretty fast.

*Devs reinventing the wheel on how to make games and endless tech demos and tiny experiences(2hrs and shorter) that practically nobody will ever prefer over a regular games
for now, but if vr takes of there will also be large games for it. i hate bethesda as much as the next guy, but they are already working on at least 2 very big vr titles. and its not like there arent any games now. you can kill lots and lots of time with shit like out of ammo and its tons of fun.

*Hardware is tied to game not fucking up your psychology(this can`t be resolved only mitigated, thus you can`t even create games that match 1:1 even basic default games we have now)

*Very high system requirements, that will not be resolved(tech will ALWAYS DOUBLE the load because of how its tied to 2 screens)
thats a fair point, but its not as much of a problem as you make it out to be. vr capable graphic cards arent that expensive anymore and are getting cheaper fast.

*Very high system requirements guaranteeing it being tied tiny market of ppl forever (this will never change because ppl wont suddenly become richer in the future(any arguments against this is fictional made up bs))
that very tiny market you are talking about still includes millions of people and is growing. and even the shitty consoles are trying to get vr ready, so your argument is retarded.

Call me a shill, but ive actualy had a vive on and it was realy fucking cool. The resolution is what kills it for me right now, but im pretty confident that in one or two years they will be at a point where i will buy one for myself.

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Implying the nightmare isn't already here.

No you dipshit, they died because arcade machines were drawing in less revenue.

Fucking summerfag cancer spreading dis info as always.

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Anytime someone says "we're 10/15/20 years from X" it's always complete and utter bullshit.

How is this bad again?

That's where you're wrong

vid related takes 80 minutes to watch

demoralization then
nomalization which may last indefinitely
It seems like they need a military boot crashing their balls until they understand.

15-20 years to create a new patriotically minded generation

Ever use one of those smartphone VRs? VR isn't a meme and with samsung working on those ridiculous resolutions, I'm confident in four things. One, PCs will die. Two, mobiles will be the new master race. Three, there will be many uses for VR and there will be many members of Holla Forums involved in its advancement. Four, OP is a fag.

Why is it that every time we discuss VR some faggot comes in to claim every problem is already fixed, and it's shit for nebulous, magical reasons instead of the obvious?

I used the Occulus when it was all the rage and Holla Forums was creaming over it, and all I could think the whole time was "Yeah this is fine, but it's not better than a monitor".

what sold me on the vive wasnt the headset, but the movement controls. i mean full on 3d vision is cool by itself, but its not realy that much of a step forward from the monitor 3d shit everyone laughed at because it was expensive and retarded.
but being able to actualy walk around, pick things up, aim the guns yourself and realize how shit you actualy are at it is something else entirely. it sounds like a shitty gimick, but i cant wait for the day when the resolution on the headset doesnt give me eyecancer anymore and there are some realy good games for vr.

While it could be technically impressive I wonder about the consequences.

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We'd be instantly able to identify fatties online cos they'd be playing all the weedy characters so at least we could bully the right people.

Maybe if you actually bought VR games, it would take off. I've bought multiple copies of VR games I own just to give this amazing technology a headstart.

Of course VR won't be real for a long time. There's been no real growth in any industry for over a decade. Nobody wants to spend the time, resources or fucking money to do any real research on anything.

Video games have been dying. The market is going to crash. The ENTIRE ECONOMY is going to crash, so why fucking bother buying new games when everything is shit?

Just stop buying video games. Play old shit in your backlog.

This'll be the trend, they'll focus on short crap for megabux then drop in a DLC ad-skin over everything around you so you can't make a move without paying more.

Complete titles will be things of the past and 'completed' titles will only come about because the studio making them has died or that game/revenue stream has dried up. Expect lots of insultingly crappy mindless meme-shit that has no place in the medium as retarded hipsters hit total saturation as 'programmers'.

Mate, fallout 4 and nudoom vr is already in the works, and nudoom could actualy be fun in vr.
Valve is probably working on some shit behind the scenes too.
There will be tons of shitty short games, but there will be long and good games in time.

thats not vr related though, thats just the early access bullshittery

Be honest, how many of you here own a Vive?

I do. It's in its infancy but there's nothing quite like the presence it creates. Teleconferencing and telesurgery are natural applications of the tech once it becomes smaller, less cumbersome, and less expensive.

It's not a gimmick, but it's kind of hard to explain that.

Hahaha

Hilarious, you should do stand-up m8.

Funnier still.

If jerking off thousands of times constitutes 'many uses' then maybe.

No.
And it'll suck. Valve can't make games.

If you can hijack the sense then you can probably scale down the pain until it's only a prick from a stick or something too. Then PC wins even harder because PC has a slider so that self-harming broken masochist can hurt themselves anytime they want.
And some games created that are literally banned and only available underground because there's no pain limiter or because you can scale up the pleasure from sex to like 10x or some shit and break your mind JUST LIKE IN MY ANIMAY but whatever

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I'm talking about future titles not garbage that's being ported to it.

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But will the Vive itself be the flagship VR brand? It feels like there's way too many competitors in VR right now for any of them to be considered definitive.

I simply can't fathom a game that would be good in VR that wouldn't be better on a monitor. The only one I could even come close to seeing the point would be cancerous "cinematic experience" shit.

now youre just being contrarian.

Alternatively, you have shit taste. It's not "contrarian" to know NuDoom isn't fun.

first of, nudoom is at the very least alright, secondly valve hasnt released a bad game yet.
but good job fitting in.

Coordinating big construction and renovation jobs

Valve hasn't actually made a game for years user. And they have released bad games, Dota 2 being the prime example.

No idea but from what I can tell they're the lead now.

just because you dont like assfaggots doesnt mean its a bad game.
i dont like turn based strategy games, yet i dont run around telling everyone that the civilization series is shit.

But it is a bad game. ASSFAGGOTS are bad games.

Any 3D porn game?

Not CAD in general?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-aided_design

Using the motion controllers to reload and cock weapons is more satisfying than you think.

driving games/sims

In a world where focus is money, there never will be a product success on his own merit.
As more corrupt an institution becomes as more money becomes the focus.
The need has to be created in such an world.

This is why VR never becomes mainstream. It was based on a virtualy reality dream, not based on the need for something. As we all know, and surely those up there in controller, this industry is corrupt as fuck. One can chooce to stay in the story told by those who hold the industry tied or look for himself into the rabbit hole, archived forever on deepefreeze.it or shitposted on a daily base on pol. The fact still remains, this industry will only success with creating the need before advertising the perfect product for the need.

this is just one reason why corruption is actually bad. But we chooce to let go and we openly let us derail. Even so you say no, i didnt let this happened. As we see right now, industry is still corrupt, sjw journos still pusching narratives.

in such a world, there will never success a product without a manufactured need for it. Because money.

cool

I've tried it, and it's not that satisfying. It's nifty the first few times, but it loses its charm quickly.

See I'll give you that one.