Xonotic

Fast and free, gratis and libre arena shooter.
xonotic.org/

Holla Forums Xonotic Server (NA Pacific, 0.8.1autobuild) Status
dpmaster.deathmask.net/?game=xonotic&server=98.176.140.2:26000

Unofficial Lainchan Server (EU)
dpmaster.deathmask.net/?game=xonotic&server=188.165.212.152:2600

Holla Forums Absolute Wrath Server (Latvia, 0.8.1) Status (Down)

Duel Ladder
Monthly event.
Duel other participants on maps within a map pool.
All skill levels welcome. This aims to help others find duel partners and improve.
Maps for June: Boil, SilentSiege, Fuse, Mint, Phrantic, Iron Lung, Warfare
Nominations for July are open

Newbie Guide:
gitlab.com/xonotic/xonotic/wikis/Halogenes_Newbie_Corner

If you're the first one on the server, announce in the thread so thread lurkers know when to join.

Mid-week there may be polls for playing times so we can all get together at the same times for larger scale matches. They will be marked with "Schedule Poll" in the subject.

Other urls found in this thread:

webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=xonotic.na
archive.fo/https://8ch.net/v/res/12414363.html
dl.xonotic.co/map-aedm7.pk3
lvlworld.com/dl/lvl/2098
lvlworld.com/dl/lvl/2100
lvlworld.com/dl/lvl/2121
dl.xonotic.co/ct3ctf2.pk3
lvlworld.com/dl/lvl/2018
forums.xonotic.org/showthread.php?tid=7389)
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

IRC
The North American Holla Forums server has an IRC gateway to this irc channel that reports status when people are playing. Additionally, idlers on IRC can chat with players.
webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=xonotic.na

Lainchan also has an IRC:
irc.lainchan.org:6697 #xonotic

Mumble
mbl57.gameservers.com:10002
To enter the Xonotic channel, add an access token (Server-> Access Tokens) called erebus
Primary use of these channels will be for team modes, but shooting the shit is more than welcome as well.
Persistent shitposting will need to occur on IRC. Mumble does not display persistent chat

Movement Tutorial
A circle jump offers a boost of starting speed and is the start of a usual CTS run. The webmis missing a few bits of important information. Going in a direction using one of WASD without jumping or moving the mouse provides only 320 qu/s max. However combined with moving the mouse laterally (creating a circular path), this maximum speed begins to exceed that amount (max 480 qu/s). To do a circle jump, reach a high speed on the ground then jump to preserve it from friction. The numbers are from the defrag mode and will be different for fragging, but the concept is the same.

For strafe jumping, a common thing among new players is to frantically wiggle the mouse back and forth without properly aiming at that angle. The best acceleration is based on an ideal angle, not on direction switching. This ideal angle will be farther from the center as velocity increases.
Direction switching is mainly for repositioning, avoiding collision with a wall or falling off the map.

Previous thread was here
archive.fo/https://8ch.net/v/res/12414363.html

Also tfw the server bots are finally not retarded and can actually pull their weight in TDM matches with pubs.

Have some aspirational footage

I have no idea if that post has really been deleted. Here's another pub server story. It seems they develop some ego after playing some ffa and instagib, or at least they expect holding w+space and having decent aim will get them anywhere.

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Summoning lurking mapperfag. A few quality maps have one terrible flaw that makes them unacceptable. Current list: aedm7_q3 Broken lightshafts. Opaque. Can do without, but currently ruins the map. ct3dm4_q3 One box with incompatible shader/textures. Minor problem. Still g2g. ct3tourney2_q3 Incompatible shaders on the ground. ct3dm5 Questionable scaling. Low ceilings, a bit on the small side. coldcathode_ql Flag floating in the air, otherwise ok except for the metal shaders. ct3ctf Mostly good, missing layout. Flag is floating in air. Missing skybox.

Do tell whats fixable, and what's not. Some screenshot examples.

Most of the Quake->Xonotic map ports found on xonotic.co (*_q3, *_full, etc.) are in my opinion poorly done. I prefer to use the map files that Quake players would use.

Download links for the (unmodified) maps:
aedm7: dl.xonotic.co/map-aedm7.pk3
ct3dm4: lvlworld.com/dl/lvl/2098
ct3tourney2: lvlworld.com/dl/lvl/2100
ct3dm5: lvlworld.com/dl/lvl/2121
ct3ctf: dl.xonotic.co/ct3ctf2.pk3

The lvlworld.com downloads are zip files containing the pk3 and a readme file. The xonotic.co links are the same pk3 files that are found on lvlworld.com.


The lightshafts should be easy to fix. Would require modifying the shaders.

I'm not too sure, but I don't think this will be hard to fix. Same as above, modify the shaders.

I need a screenshot to know what you mean by this.

Does the scale of the linked version feel any better? This is also missing the skybox.

The floating flags is an easy fix. I haven't looked at the metal shaders yet.

What do you mean by missing layout? The linked version has the flags on the ground. Skybox needs a shader fix.

Alright, I copied and pasted a text file which was notes of the map as I was going through them. I didn't 100% proof read it.

I need a screenshot to know what you mean by this.
Ok, I mean that its just flat black and very noticeably so. If modifying the shaders isn't a big deal for you, that's great because there's some other maps that have this issue like rota3dm2 (ceilings & skybox) and monsoon_q3 (and actually others think the port is very poor in other ways.).

The floating flags is an easy fix. I haven't looked at the metal shaders yet.
The ground is a stretched out shiny piece of metal. It also happens for the map leviathan_ql.

What do you mean by missing layout?
Nevermind it. I probably meant it was missing its skybox, but later skimmed it thinking I omitted the issue about the skybox.

I'm assuming these issues are coming up because the port was rushed and who ever did the job neglected some tweaks.

Also to the user who popped in
We had one in France and Latvia, the admins hosting them went missing or out of contact, then their servers went offline. Lainchan's server is still up however.

Everything looks fine on ct3tourney2 for me. Does anyone else see the same thing?

I used to see this on Furious Heights, but don't anymore. Unfortunately I have no idea how it got fixed. I'm going to guess one of the maps I have overwrites a broken shader.

Here's the lvlworld.com download for monsoon: lvlworld.com/dl/lvl/2018
Try it out and see if it is any better.

aedm7 has the same problem.

Monsoon has the same shader problem but also some scaling ones. It takes one cj to jump to the mega health, but the vortex cubby can't be crawled out of.

No.

A little on the small side, but not cramped.

I don't think Quake maps will work right away, generally.

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If you think the scale of the rest of the map is fine you can just change the crouch height. If not, it'll be fixed with the scale change.


Are you sure it isn't meant to be that way?

Reminder that nominations are open
I'll start nominating I suppose
Monsoon
CPM15
Boil

I'm actually not sure, but considering Xonotic's movement, it doesn't feel right. For example image #2
after going fast around the map, it is a very tight turn that kills off a lot of speed..

As for monsoon, some others mentioned issues with its porting. But I think in Komier's case he just prefers the Quake 4 version over Quake 3.

Speaking of porting, my kingdom for a version of CPM15 you can actually rampjump on. Map's overscaled so the whole point of having the map in Xon is lost

Would this be from the player models in Xonotic being a different size than in Quake 3 or whatever physics in Xonotic is different to the point it doesn't work. I can agree that the scaling isn't right, but grabbing a map straight from Quake 3 doesn't work right either.

I don't think the crampedness I mentioned would be a problem in Quake 3 since the movement is slower, but I'm not sure how that map plays in Quake 3 anyways.

It's both a porting issue and a model size issue. Q3 CPM15 would be too small, but they've scaled it to probably 1.5-2x map size, so the ramps on the window things are too high, meaning you have to blaster or jumppad out of what would normally be the RA room, and the Mega/YA room is much more confined without blaster usage.

It's a cpm map, so there's a lot of manoeuvrability. VQ3 wouldnt really be able to take advantage of most of the tricks you can do, but luckily CPM15 is heavily reliant on rampjumping. That said, it's considered to be a more tactical map in CPM terms. Less constant fighting and more smart repositioning/ambushes. Theres a couple jumps that wont work in Xon (skipping the u-turn staircase by doublejumping on the panel, for instance. However you could still just rampjump it like in vid related) but most jumps have some sort of equivalent, or would (in theory) work 100% as intended

I'll nominate tuhma, bloodrun, and stormkeep.

mapperfag please fix maps

I did some more in-depth investigating and here's what I found:

The skyboxes are missing because Xonotic doesn't support Quake's scrolling skies. It would probably be better to try and get actual support in the game instead of patching individual maps.

The broken shader on ct3dm4 is a mirror/reflective surface that also isn't supported by Xonotic. I could (and probably will) overwrite it with something that looks decent.

The floating flags are caused by scaling up the map. I'm not sure if it is a bug in q3map2.

The black textures is a graphics glitch that I don't think I can fix. I would suggest messing with settings to see if you can figure out what causes it.

This doesn't sound like it would happen soon. Considering it's been a problem for a long time. But you could leave that out and the other stuff.

Some people playing on the server.
Normally one would expect the playing times to be late evenings, and late nights. There's now some games in the early afternoons.

Why don't more people play this? It's so good! Just a pure, well polished arena shooter with solid graphics.

All the fragging fun of Quake and Unreal Tournament in a modern, open source, cross platform package!

Stormkeep is fun.
But I fear the only way we can get much active discussion is if, like last thread, some e-celeb offhand mentions Xonotic in a video mainly about Quake Champions.

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If they were, they'd be getting assblasted about Trump and issuing bans.

It's more hectic than VQ3/UT, while still containing jump/duel autism and having no marketing budget. Not many people hear about the game and those that do have to pass through the casual filter that comes with the territory
TB wrongly calling the game dead is probably the most coverage this game has had ever

It's not black when it's picmipped.

I don't have the list memorized.
How would I know who to challenge?

Also, didnt hear back from 9-Ball or either of the players challenged so I'm assuming it was all 9-Ball wins until notified otherwise

Tempest challenges Mini and 9-Ball.

We really need to organize that lainchan vs Holla Forums thing while we're at it. I have no idea how many players we can pull together nowadays, but they're not a large group either.

God fucking damn it TB


It doesn't get the coverage. I guarantee that shit loads of arena shooter players would play this if they knew about it. Hell my experience is playing the UT and Q3 demo's, often at school but I still love the shit out of this game.
I guess we need to just promote it at appropriate oppurtunities. Word of mouth is the best advertising anyway

Here, see for yourself.

Jun 21 15:05:21 fugJun 21 15:05:27 cant there be a set timeJun 21 15:05:29 * Beemann calls a vote for "-bots"Jun 21 15:05:31 * the vote ended with yes: 3:0, 0 didn't care, 2 didn't voteJun 21 15:05:37 set time for what?Jun 21 15:05:41 duelsJun 21 15:05:50 duel ladder seems deadJun 21 15:05:51 we used to have scheduled playing times remember?Jun 21 15:06:03 we also used to have people vote on activityJun 21 15:06:05 when i'd post polls to see which time is best for most peopleJun 21 15:06:12 and we'd go on at the decided timeJun 21 15:06:16 that was for duels?Jun 21 15:06:22 no, it was for games in generalJun 21 15:06:24 that was for anything, just to get people togetherJun 21 15:06:37 i always gave time in advance so people can reschedule from their busy lives, etc
We officially went full circle.
Do we poll for playing times again like old times?
How do we proceed?

Word of mouth is good, but maybe we should come up with some sort of marketing strategy?

Wonderful.
I have just the thing.

whats the store behind this pic

I took a screenshot of the game, a picture of a blonde lady, and the game logo. Then put them together in an image editor.

To make fun of an 8 year old ad campaign of an MMORTS that presented itself as some sexy adventure game.

TB is pro-Paid Mods btw, he full on marketed for (((Zenimax))) in his latest video. By far going beyond shilling. The guys completely sold out.
I wouldn't trust him with anything games related. He even came out as saying he's funding games mods– which to me is a conflict of interest because he's paying to add value to someone elses product whilst at the same time being a reviewer. He also said DayZ was the only reason anyone bought Arma. Cancers finally destroyed his brain.

Who wants to play against a 230 ping mongol?

Ok. I could keep you company for a bit.
I'll sit on the server for a bit and make some food while I wait.

TB has had retarded opinions for a long time now, but before he didn't have the kind of following/massive ego required to shut himself off from most/all forms of real criticism from viewers and the like (YT comments shut down in favour of a subreddit he hates and a twitter feed he cant bring himself to read). Instead you occasionally get a guest on his podcast who has non-retarded opinions, who will softball their criticism so as to not be THAT GUY on the stream.

I'm sure he'd be fine if it weren't for the fact that he was famous, and the stress from the cancer probably doesn't help either. He'd just be one of those dudes who is usually okay but sometimes spergs out over some dumb shit, and that would be perfectly bearable

Good games, Finnbro. You don't play often but it's nice to see you return after a long time.

I will wait for 20 minutes on the server for someone to duel me.

Well coldcathode got a flag fix. Can ct3ctf2 get one too?

Thanks mapperfag.
Now the only thing wrong with this map is the unsupported skybox and the textures.

The former I could ignore and hope that the devs add support for, the latter, the usual trick with picmip not working still.

Now that the new remake of phrantic (forums.xonotic.org/showthread.php?tid=7389) has been declared finished, what is everyone's thoughts?

Also can we get the updated map on the server?

I am literally some kind of 2nd class citizen of the internet.

Final version of Xonotic's Phrantic remake is now on the server.

Also warm-up has been restored to its original duration in XPM modes, and bot quantities properly update itself when duel is selected (don't need to vcall -bots each time anymore).

no better time for xonotic than now

Server experiencing some trouble lately.
Looking into it.

< remmus wfm

Still waiting on those Dragon Ball Z mods….

Dank ad, comrade.

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Where's the beef?

Actually stop, get the fuck back on the server.

You can't tell me what to do!

Need feedback as to whether or not server still has issues with packet loss. As usual, can't do anything if it's on the client's end.

nominating quark. hopefully will check thread more often so challenges can be accepted this time.

What did he mean by this?

Clearly one of the maps is broken and should be fixed. Can't you read?

But which one?

picture only tangentially related

where can i get cool skins and new models for xonotic?

There are none or there is no indexing for them. Most people are focused on maps, but you can probably connect to a random modded server that has custom models and pick out the cool ones.

I think the last actually cool new model/skin were the weapon models officially added to the game, funded by a server admin (who had it available on his server prior to the update).

A bit busier irl for America's birthday. Will still probably be around. Still haven't gotten feedback regarding the server and if it still has the occasional packet loss issue.

Try starting from A and working your way to Z. You might also be able to eliminate the ones that aren't on the server.

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Is this a Xonotic thing, or would it have to be done for every map because of an inherent Quake engine thing?

I'm not sure about having the code do that. This can also be done with a replace function in a text editor.

Ok. Probably will do.

So item_armor_large was 100a and item_health_large got retagged to item_health_big?

Basically I was given the output of a Reflex->Xonotic map conversion/port and I gave some feedback.

I'm not entirely sure, but I think it's a Quake engine thing. Basically, in Xonotic the player's center will be moved to the origin whereas Reflex puts the player's feet at the origin. If you don't move it up by 32 units the player will be put half-way through the floor.

Yes. It got changed in 0.8.2.


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1. Fritz is back
2. I have now mined the idle salt. He has sworn revenge

Today is a good day

Rogue 4chan faggot is back.

[17:23:31] 18 I wish you dm players would stop running away so much[17:23:39] 18 why don't you guys stand and trade like men

[17:24:54] 18 I'm just saying, the match wouldn't last so long if you guys stopped running and fought like men[17:25:06] 18 >ok[17:25:18] 18 duel has no frag limit, you'd be playing 10 minutes regardless[17:25:35] 18 the opponent would have ragequit before the 10 minute mark[17:25:43] 18 he would have realized he had no chance of winning

[17:27:45] 18 I can't play on these toy maps. If the map doesn't have the vortex gun it is not a seroius map

I'm going to find out who made these posts. Soon…

And when you do, then what?

Is that you senpai?

And then he'll have his revenge :^)

Make sure you're here to resume mining in a month or two. By then he'll have not played for at least 12 months.

Welcome back

[03:42:18] 18 woah people playing here at this time?

Most activity is on the noon/afternoon and evenings.
You might be able to catch a few particular people around 4 am.

Jul 06 19:02:46 chicago who coded the xon website Jul 06 19:02:55 chicago don't know Jul 06 19:02:57 chicago sucks, right? Jul 06 19:03:07 chicago it should have been coded with the mvvm design pattern Jul 06 19:03:17 chicago it should have been built using angular4 Jul 06 19:03:27 chicago what is it built in? Jul 06 19:03:46 chicago it looks like it's built with jquery Jul 06 19:03:50 chicago and no design pattern Jul 06 19:04:22 chicago why don't you submit a pull request to the dev? Jul 06 19:04:40 chicago niceee Jul 06 19:04:49 chicago the entire xon website would have to be rebuilt Jul 06 19:04:57 chicago for what purpose?

Jul 06 19:05:55 chicago name two design patterns for me, idle Jul 06 19:06:12 chicago MVC, MVVM Jul 06 19:06:33 chicago no, those are architectures Jul 06 19:06:38 chicago i said design patterns Jul 06 19:06:58 chicago MVVM is a design pattern according to google Jul 06 19:07:15 chicago no, mvvm is a type of car Jul 06 19:07:33 chicago i can understand the confusion though Jul 06 19:07:40 chicago it's marketed as a design patterned car.

Jul 06 19:07:52 chicago do you take mediator and observer as answers for design patterns :p Jul 06 19:08:03 chicago Antibody [dev] you might be better than me at death match, but stay in your lane, I'm a seasoned full stack developer with a decade of coding experience Jul 06 19:08:25 chicago uh, how old are you? Jul 06 19:08:36 chicago 20s

Does anyone play bzflag?

i don't know what that is.
Also 3 people on the server

tfw