Fallout and women

Why do women who generally don't play video games or play a variety of video games gravitate to the Fallout series? I can talk about just any other game and they'll be disinterested but when I talk about Fallout they perk up. What's the deal?

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All women like what I don't like.

It's the Zelda effect. The series is "popular" because it's "hit and nerdy", so status seeking hipster faggots gravitate to it as a means of filling the black hole that is their desire to fit in.

Alright, this will be hilarious

You need to ask?

I assume it's the monotonous, easy game play. You have a marker that tells you exactly where to go, and the combat isn't the slightest bit difficult. On top of that, it's usually introduced to them by normalfag brothers or boyfriends who also like the Bethesda open world junk.

Then why isn't Elder Scrolls about as popular with women as Fallout?

BECAUSE BITCHES ARE INTO 50'S AND 60'S.
Seriously. Look at any pretentious feminist.

But isn't that a time period where women believed they were under muh oppression?

Elder Scrolls is popular with women. It's just it's not the latest "OMG AAA GAYMEEE"

Women are narcissist creatures who believe half baked, contradictory beliefs as long as it makes them feel accepted and admired.

Don't end up a MGTOW, but be aware that you are dealing with something who doesn't think like we do.

this is why I am in this thread

Skyrim was popular with women.


They still believe they're under muh oppression.

Because it's (((popular))) and braindead easy.

What the fuck

Wine glass is the proper technique.

Do you reject the technique approved by our Lord and Saviour Daigo Umehara?

You have to be kidding me?

Are you actually retarded? Yes, that is how a majority of fighting game players hold the stick.

Have some vintage autism

last thread about girls and games was 404'd as quick as it went 10replies/sec

You have to be literally retarded to not know the answer.
Women feel attracted to these games because there's little depth to them, this is also why there are so many Zelda and LoL female players.
To put it simply: they lack the interest and attention span to play anything that seems challenging to them

I believe women like Bethesda games because they can mod their slutty suits or porn mods.

I don't think that the amount of women that play Fallout is any higher than the amount that plays other games, it's just Bethesda inspires the most attention seeking qualities in its fans and Fallout is it's main child.

There also games that give them blank slate characters. Women love to be the center of attention and project themselves onto the main character. This is why the Twilight books were so popular with women, the main character, Bella, was an easily relateable blank slate.

Sometimes it's just enjoyable to get lost in a wasteland and go full merchant hoarding items and selling scrap for water money, though the increase in bullshit from 3 onward is less enjoyable. Same applies to TES. Both are fun to mod. I consider Bethesda shit a "break" between my FromSoftware/similar binges.WHERE THE FUCK IS MY NEW ARMORED CORE GAME YOU FUCKING SOULS-HUMPING ASSHOLES. NO, ACV DOESN'T COUNT. I LIKE PLAYING SOULS AS MUCH AS THE NEXT PERSON BUT I NEED MY MECH FIGHTS DAMN IT.

they gravitate to the sandbox rpgs and cod m9. I meet some chick and her whole thing is the meme from old cuckchan with "girls can play games too" and the games they usually play are the open world rpg or the cod-like games.

Some of it has to do with how easy they are compared to other games where resources is a thing or some complex combo is a thing. everything has to do with the difficulty in general.

Same reason as portal. Massive advertising campaign and it is a household name as per "nerd" culture that they want a piece of. It's like Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, you just need to read a few of the memes to start understanding and using them, you don't actually have to read the manga or anything that takes effort like that. When you're only doing it to communicate with people that do it, you only need surface level knowledge to break the ice and then change the subject to whatever it is else you want to talk about (like sucking their dick for example).

Post shadman already.

Women will never release or admit they desire most of all to be swooped off their feet by a dominant man. Women are biologically programmed to submit to men and they like it.

Carl pls go

no

Fallout 3 and 4 are basically babby's first RPG, first iteration, and third iteration (Skyrim being the second). Delusional faggots and women play those three games to virtue signal how they play "thinking man's games", and "none of that stupid, brainless shit like COD and DOOM".

As other anons have stated, it's the hip and nerdy series for "smart hardcore gaymrrrrrs".

They've announced that they making ACVI after DS3 a long time ago.

Fallout 4 would be fourth iteration, New Vegas is the third.

It's the new Steampunk, Nuclearpunk
It's about the dressing up as epic nerd stuff rather than the setting, rather like what happened to steampunk.

I excluded New Vegas because it was an actually good game, though.

They don't, they gravitate to bethesda trash. Do you see wimin playing fo1 or 2? Tactics?
Nah, just 3 and 4, maybe nv.

This. It's because of the Max Max influence seen in the clothing

How so? It plays almost exactly like Fallout 3 with a few additional things tossed on.

I remember this exact thread a couple of months ago and most of the conclusions were the same.

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It's piss easy and mainstream.

It's better written, has more interesting quests, some would disagree, but I think it has a better worldspace, and, it actually allows you some freedom, choice and roleplaying in your god damn roleplaying game.

In NV skills actually matter.

So if Bethesda hired good writers, people such as yourself would buy their games?

Do they really?

Here's a better question. How do we stop them from shitting up the franchise even more than it already is?

Give Todd full control on the next project.

Fuck off Todd.

Combat skills? No, except for pucking up perks. But that's an issue that was ported over from Fallout 3.
Other skills, yes. They all are used in dialogue at some point, or are useful in some way.

They do really

"We" can't do anything. People who buy their shit would have to stop buying them. Or someone could load a car with 200 kilograms of nitro and enrich their offices.

Just let go. Fallout ended with NV.

You know why.

You don't. It's too late for Fallout.

There will never be a fully realised New Vegas, just as there will never be a true successor to Morrowind.

Here's hoping that InEXile doesn't fuck up or cuck out on that Van Buren game they might be making.

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I know.

I've stopped telling people I love Fallout. The first they're gonna think about is Fallout4 and it's not worth it
Not sure about the girl gamer thing though, I only ever see them play Zelda and FF

Fallout has always been shit. It's an extremely inferior imitation of "A Canticle for Leibowitz". Compared to Canticle, Fallout is utterly pointless, shallow, and banal. They missed the whole point when writing about the Brotherhood. Playing Fallout doesn't make you intelligent. At least Bethesda acknowledged Fallout as a farce it is and decided to make a mindless loot and shoot game out of it.

none of the fallout games are good, so I'm not sure why you'd want to associate with a goon rpg or a bethesda rpg.

It was improved in multiple different ways, and would have probably turned out even better if Bethesda gave Obsidan more time and a better engine to work with.

Because Bethesda games are as shallow as they are.

That's a cool and wrong opinion.

This.

This

that's nice but I strongly encourage you to expand your horizons away from western RPGs, the only good one is might & magic 6 and that has more in common with doom than planet escape: tournament.

Underrated post and also big fucking /thread

I could and did troll better when I was 12, faggotron.

The great thing is I'm not even trolling. I only feel sorry you're stuck on the goon rpg genre.

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codex, goon, same shit different toilet.

It's not even trying to imitate ACFL. It's imitating post-apoc fiction. It's original concerning how it portrays future tech as if transistor research was skewed in favor of nuclear power.


Stop replying to shit bait.

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Caneghem did his best at Isles of Terra and couldn't replicate his brilliance after.

Classic yet refined dungeon crawling, 6 members + 2 hirelings, best plot in series, hard if you don't abuse strong shit, etc, tied to other games etc etc

Might and magic 6 is babby's first garbage exactly like fallout compared to something like wasteland 1 and buck rogers.

I do appreciate the alternate technological progression that Fallout established. However, I find the storyline and factions to be extremely weak and shallow. It's really sad how fallout fans praise the complexity of the factions and their political surroundings when in reality it's really banal. I have a personal abhorrence for New Vegas for this sole reason, the fanbase is consisted of sophomoric pseudo intellectuals.

Why? The NCR is the natural progression of what it was in FO2, and they even go all they way of the propagandist state. You start thinking of it was the "good guys" only to be confronted by the reality of incompetence, general wastefulness and pandering to the political realities of the Strip.
The Legion is the opposite on some regard. Extremely efficient, ruthless to the point of cartoonishness and instead of pandering, they instead force their way into everything and everyone.
Seems fine to me.

The like rpgs, just like you homosexuals. Because they are are easy.

And? Such political parody has been reused so many times already. I never cared about the NCR of either Fallout 2 or New Vegas, at least FO2 treated them as background characters. The political is unoriginal. Fallout is best when it's about exploring the destroyed landscape and rediscovering technology of the past, I think it's what made it original and it should stay as the focus of the series.

Did you forget the part where they were fighting over the Hoover fucking Dam?

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No, but I don't get your point.

Everything has been used many times already. That's no argument for mediocrity. It's an argument for unoriginality. It was written well and with a degree of believability that is uncharacteristic of vydia plots.

No it wasn't. Fallout is very narrow minded compared to other literature, I posted A Canticle for Leibowitz as an example.

Fallout isn't literature, dumbfuck.

Then it shouldn't pretend to be one?? That's my whole point.

Trying to compare plot development of a game against some of the best written medium has to offer is disingenuous at best.

It doesn't???????

Fallout already had it's own distinct quality that NV and arguably FO2 dumped in favor of more socio-political commentary and faction warfare.


In a sense, it does. Socio-political commentary smells like wannabe high literature.

Naw, it's a fucking video game.

Ok fam

It's more like gravitating towards Bethesda's ebin shit. If you ask any woman about Fallout, they'll never EVER mention the first two games.

its because its hip and trendy OP
that is the entire reason why they perk up when its mentioned

get some sense lads

Stories that are suitable for video games are small stories about personal relationships with people and discovering a bunch of stuff. Like stealing Vertibird plans from Quincy and make Raul beat him up for no reason, that's quite neat.

I do understand it quite well. Like you, for example, wannabe /lit/fag.

Who made you the king of videogames faggot? Go be pretentious somewhere else.

Do you have any data or figures for this?

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It's all about the aesthetic my man

It's fantasy

Had to dig deep, bets rpg that have any challenge are rarer than homos that dont end up with aids

You're a real expert, aren't you?

I know it already that's the fault of this handsome devil.

Look at all these betas. I hope you all get girl friends so I can cuck you one day

Fallout 4 was one of the first games in the history of the world to feature a playable female character.

Oh shit! I remember that. Even the mindless masses showed visible confusion about their virtue signalling.

Aw, Thank you user, i'll make you proud and land me a beautiful gf. I'll use your hope to improve my dating game.

wew

That pic is going into my HUNK folder.

"See that mountain?! You can climb it! We're really doing everything we can to make the whole world a place to explore!"

you're talking about cuckout and elder scrolls as full franchises, as if retarded walking vaginas and niggers played morrowind, hammerfell, arena, or fallout 1 and 2.

no. they gravitate to whatever popular garbage exists at the moment. remember, they started playing videogames in 2007, and what was the latest trend back then? oblivion and fallout 3

>>>/r9k/

Why write about boring history that you have to research when you can write new jistory that fits your agenda?

I thought you were talking about women within the fallout universe and I was about about to shitpost about how you don't need any when there's robots around.

What's wrong with the later Terry Pratchett books?

It is.

Pick one or all.

Girls are bad at real-time combat. Fallout and Skyrim allow the player to do things at their own pace, AKA just fucking around in the open world.

You are just seeing the cosplayers, Drag queens and trannys. No real women actually play fallout.

Back then, women were also idealized as domestic goddesses and put on a pedestal for to be worshiped by popular media. Nowadays, they have equality, and have to fight for their attention like everyone else - which they also see as a form of oppression, and even worse so because of the internet, they have far more competition from other women. So many of them either just drop out of the competition and get their attention by becoming as hideous as possible while screaming about how beautiful they are, or they pick up a social crusade against men like the neo-Womens Christian Temperance Movement.

the alzheimers shows worse and worse as it progresses and not only does it hurt the book, but when you notice it its a painful reminder of a man suffering

They don't play videogames, so the first thing they do is google about videogames or ask their casual friends which are almost guaranteed normalfags because nobody with our power level can talk to girls, and the first thing they are suggested is these games

His daughter wrote every book after Unseen Academicals. I think the last book that was fully his was Night Watch.

Holy fuck, are you new to video games?

Women are INCAPABLE of holding beliefs. They screeching is equivalent of dog barking.
Don't take it literally, assume she's hungry (for attention) or needs to be put in her place.

I read somewhere that is in the nature of the women to seek support of a strong partner, you can't just suppress that with words, it's ingrained in the mind.

This is like that capped reddit post where a girl shows off her model portal gun, and some guy says "I bet she hasn't even beaten the game" and gets down-voted but then she admits she didn't finish it.

Women tend to see things socially rather than literally. Her boyfriend likes portal, her beta orbiters like portal, her friend's boyfriend likes portal, therefore she likes portal.
It's the same reasoning for why gamergrrls exist. And why they get offended when confronted with physical evidence. In her eyes, objective evidence is bullshit and only social evidence matters. Her boyfriend has a higher social status than you, her beta orbiters have a higher social status than you, her non-gaming friends have a higher social status than you, therefore you are the fake gamer guy because your social status is lower than hers. It's not about what you do, it's about who you know.

That meme she-gook is fine as fuck.

>that cozy feel when borderline autistic wife who views objectivity above everything else

You lucky bastard
Where can I find one?

It's too late. I found her back in the 90s by indulging in non normalfag shit like Everquest before the planes of time turned it into a clusterfuck that catered to what we considered normalfags back in the day. The kind of faggots who will call you a noob for not powerleveling them. Even she says she would not fucking know where that type of person would hide, let alone if they exist anymore. Sorry you had to find out this way, good luck.

Because Fallout 4 is the most recent Bethesda game. Once TESVI comes out, all of the attention whores will be flocking to that instead because it's in the public eye.

Just out of curiosity, how old are you user? I figure that the average age group is around around 20-25, but you seem like you're significantly older.

I like when todd makes me feel proud for simply acquiring a product with an infinite supply in a 1st world country when i can get whatever I want.
youtu.be/yvGXCisAaR4?t=69
It's not even pride for beating it.
Defeating an obstacle, hard boss or a challenge/puzzle
Simply acquisition of a generic product with infinite supply is supposed to be a reason for pride?
How?

34. It's real depressing remembering the world of the late 80s and early 90s and see it devolve from there. I know the ball was more or less in motion in the 70s but some days it feels like we are somehow the few remaining people surrounded by fucking pod people. It's actually chilling to the bone and the reason why I have been drinking more in the last 5 years.

I think there's more to it than that. Women and normalfags are inherently attracted to flashy iconography and branding. Fallout is just more brand-friendly than Elder Scrolls is.

Think of all the brands and icons that you can think of from Fallout, like Nuka-Cola, Vault-Tec, the PipBoy, or even stuff like the blue vault jumpsuits. These are all flashy, instantly recognizable, and unique symbols that fit right in with modern marketing schemes and merchandising-oriented "nerd culture." These icons stick readily in people's minds, and are easily transferred into the minds of others who may not have previously had exposure to the IP. More importantly, it's easy to sell self-identified "nerds" merchandise with these sorts of brands.

Elder Scrolls doesn't really have equivalents to these, and I think that makes it significantly less marketable. In comparison with Fallout, it's relatively plain, it has no major internalized branding or memorable icons. This is also true when compared to other "nerd culture" brands that women are drawn to - Zelda has the triforce, for example. TES is less attractive to women because it lacks icons that they can be drawn to and identify with.

It's the gathering instinct. They love going to a new place and finding and exploring things. The wasteland is like their post apocalyptic shopping mall.

I used to play fallout with a girl. Anytime there was a fight the controller got passed to me, the moment we found a new town " oh oh can I explore". It's just instincts

The ball has been in motion since long before the 70's. From the turn of the century, at the very least. Flappers gave way to beatniks, which gave way to hippies, etc.

Bah, fuck. Wrong picture.

I meant in terms of what lead to this current situation. Flappers were just a bunch of drunk irish women having seizures on the dance floor. The great depression was just a way to weaken a fledgling nation, but when the bad goy Hitler started to tell bankers and kikes to fuck off suddenly Churchill and his (((friends))) needed allies. The 70s was a lot more effective since the small jewish population who were effectively refugees started to run key infrastructures in the mid 60s and we see their plans fully begin during the (((hippie movement))) combined with dragging a nation into a war they had no business being in. Why do you think Nixon gets so much shit and is still shat on by the left?

It's the same phenomena though, just amplified considerably from the 50's/60's on by the rise of mass media.


Nixon is a meme. Anyone who actually lived through the 60's and 70's tends to shit on LBJ far more. It's their kids who never had to deal with him as president who look back at the Civil Rights legislature he pushed and think he's a pretty good guy who was just a little rough around the edges.

Thank you for reminding me that we already had a woman in office.

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My wife hardly plays anything but fondly remembers her time in Fallout 3 the intro and the journey to Megaton. She really liked the dialog. She's Muslim, said her fathers and brothers were always talking about taking the GOAT when she was growing up.

Self-suicide yourself.

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Yeah, branding matters as well.

yeah boypussy, thats shit must be as popular as Skyrim

I am a grill, so I can answer his questions.

Did she blew up Megaton?

You autists missed the joke completely.
I never doubted you for a second, Muhammad.

Tits or GTFO, whore. If trap, kill yourself.

Oh. You don't know, or realize it? Right around Thud, or a little later (I hold Thud as the last good one, other fans thing it's one later, some others think one earlier - point is, that's the line) Pterry grew increasingly… Focused on race, racsism, gender roles, etc. His books got less whimsical and more dark, and definitely more feminist - and not in the good way like in Equal Rites.

No, I'm talking…


>THe last book of the Young Witches books, where while Esk ( who fucking appears in these books, I shit you not, she's a god damn time traveler ) could totally be a witch and a wizard, a young man with exceptional skill with goats and calming people CAN'T. Reason given: He's a dude.
>Unseen Academicals, where an Orc is shown that Your Birth Doesn't Matter, and plays football with astounding skill and bravery.
And so on and so forth. Thud is good because the writing is very strong, but the villain is upset because s/he is locked in a transgender closet they can't escape and is bitter that others can express themselves freely. Yep, that's the plot. Though, honestly, Terry set that up fairly well because Dwarves in discworld are all Male, even though some are, in fact, women. The expression of femininity is looked down on, though, with flavoring very similar to """transphobia""". In earlier books it was done much more elegantly. In later ones it's… Almost silly how transparent it is.

Basically, a lot of Pterry fans believe his daughter started to pick up his slack, at first gracefully, then less and less as he grew more incapable.

It is


This too, it's very marysue-ish. There's a reason why women don't generally like Morrowind or M&B


Michael Kirkbride. At least Heinz is dead

fucking this lol.