How come we don't discuss Final Fantasy 12: The Zodiac Age more often...

Is it out yet over here?

What did he mean by this?

They're even worse than the singleplayer games.

Oh man, look at billy badass over here who thinks he knows what's going on. Tip your fedora harder, faggot.

Its means stop spreading lies you fucking nigger.
Can't wait for the shitty game to be announced for release next year and all the retards here who fell for the clickbait going
Goddamn, we have a daily GamerGoyim general trying to avoid shit like this and retards here still fall for it.
The again th 3 years meme bullshit is being spread like wildfire by the Nintentoddlers to spite the Sonyggers and crossposting here is at an all time high.

Great source faggot, kill yourself like I'm killing your rethoric

Why would people talk about a remake?

The original came out more than 10 years ago, IZJS got an English patch very quickly. I played it three times. There's nothing to talk about.

That shit is worse than XIII

Nigger please
Its a fucking res bump

True. I don't know words.

And even worse than that… the original looks perfect. There is nothing wrong with it. It looks great. Not really anything to improve there.

But muh XIV is totally not shit guys

Anyone else agree Ashe has a great ass?

yeah, 12 is one of the better FF games, I would hope everyone here knows that. It'd be even better if it had the main character removed, since he's the least interesting character in the game.

Shill

oh, okay, now I understand why OP wants 'discussion'. what the fuck.

That's not porn, though.

Don't forget to pre order it so you can get it on the 11th of July.

Lewds are softcore

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I looked it up and there is indeed a rereleasr of FF12. Fucking shill threads up the ass lately.

There is a nipple in pic 2

Daily reminder, your main protagonist is someone who's so inconsequential to the story and he was just added because the suits at Squeenix doesn't know how to market Balthier or Basch, so they went with the metrosexual OC DONUT STEEL twink instead.

Mark really should make it so threads about games that are coming out soon is a banable offense.

Good. Nobody likes Vaan. It's good that he's irrelevant.

Balthier and Basch are cool, though. And if you want a ♂waifu, Larsa is available.

I agree

Bumping shill threads

Am I glad only now, on month before the rerelease, do we get a FFXII thread and not every month after this shit was announced last year with much more fanfare.

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Jesus Op what did you do to piss all these people off?
What is going on in this fucking board in the past week?

OP is shilling for the new FF12 remaster

If remaster will be
I'll buy at full price, you heard me squeenix, don't fuck it up.

There's a re-release of FFXII coming out next month, that's why (((people))) are making threads about it.
It's like they're not even trying anymore. It's frankly insulting.
Go shill somewhere else you cucks.
you all know what to do in shill threads

Cool, didn't know they were releasing it again

I made the other FF12 thread and honestly had no idea this was even a thing
Not everyone is a shill user

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why live
fuck square

forgot to sage

fuck you, use the catalogue

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There were no other FF12 threads

The design of Basch's vest/shirt makes no fucking sense

What's wrong with it?
I'm more concerned with how he puts those shoes on.

ITT: People who does not like FF came to FF thread to shitpost.

Eh, they're just boots with belt straps.
The problem is his undershirt doesn't look like it goes up to his shoulders. It has nothing holding it up, so it should fall.
Furthermore, the vest over it has some straps that go under that gray/beige shirt… how does that work? Like, does he have to put them all together at the same time for it to work?
Also I don't see the point of having 2 things that cover his torso, and STILL having his stomach exposed.

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Shouldn't it be "or"?

I agree.

There was already thread about it, exactly one week ago. Stop being faggot, OP.

Why does the princess look like a hooker? She should be holding a giant dick instead of a sword.

ff12 is getting a remake, but its on the jew s 4

Is there a Final Fantasy game that doesn't feature zippers, belts, pouches, spikes, gay story, crystals and twinks with shitty hairstyles?

12 IZJS is among my favorite FF games of all time, though I didn't like vanilla 12 very much at all. Fran also makes me rock hard in about 7 different ways, not the least of which are her stripper heels or her accent.

The game has its problems, but fuck if it isn't one of the most engaging FFs gameplay-wise, and the most engaging story-wise as well. More RPGs need to be political in nature rather than simply "conquer evil because goodguys", and Ivalice was always the best FF setting because of that focus.

Not sure how Zodiac Age version will be, because I haven't read anything about it at all and actually forgot it was a thing. I'm not thrilled with the concept of giving modern day Squeenix money, though, even when they do something right. It feels like too little too late.

… the era of the zodiac killer?

Vaan's a gigolo and Penelo is a hooker. They were simply added to the game at the last minute because the higher-ups didn't think an "old man" and "old woman" team like Balthier and Fran could hold the interest of the Japanese audience. They needed some moe waifu and husubando bait.
This is why Balthier breaks the fourth wall with lines like "I'm the main character", and why Vaan and Penelo feel like they don't even exist for the majority of the game, except for a few very heavy-handed sequences that feel like they belong to a different game. The entire intro sequence with them feels bizarre as well, and you really get a sense that the real game begins when you encounter Balthier.

Named after the IZJS (International Zodiac Job System) version of FF12 that ironically never released Internationally. It overhauled the game in a lot of ways, the most beneficial of which was shifting the game's open-creation class system to a job system that feels like a cross between FFX sphere grids and FF5/FFT job classes.

I was the opposite, I loved all the additions to IZJS except for the License Board limitations. I feel like there were more graceful solutions that could have been implemented that didn't restrict me to specific jobs. I'm hoping the two-jobs setup from IZJS will make it a bit more palatable.

the development was kind of fucky too and people were fired/quit. ff12 is one of those forgotten games that were good but no one cares and then they made a piece of shit like 13

For me, that restriction forced me to level up more of the party, rather than just having three do-everything characters. If anything, I'd love if they'd instead balanced the game around the job system more closely, forcing you to use every single character in your party tactically based on the situation. They've done the opposite, which is a bit disappointing to me. Seems like it'll be back to the 3-character + roster dumpster style it was originally.

Yeah, companies are fantastic at looking at a failure and learning the exact opposite lessons they should learn from it.

I see it more as a "silent protagonist" kind of situation.
I got the feeling that vaan and penelo were both really underused because the person playing should've identified with them, so as characters they can't change that much.

I could be talking out of my ass though.

Maybe that's what they were going for, but the reason they're in the game is 100% last-minute marketing interference. The entire game was built and the entire story written from the ground up without them.

To say the least. The game had a fucking massive dev cycle of 5 FUCKING YEARS and it wasn't meant to be a numbered title initially. It only became one when it became apparent that the next one(XIII) wasn't gonna be done in any reasonable amount of time. Worst of all Yasumi Matsuno, the original director, had to retire from the company due to health issues IN THE MIDDLE OF DEVELOPMENT, meaning they had to bring in the SaGa team to finish up the game.

As for Vaan and Penelo, they were always part of the game since day one, contrary to what some anons say, but their roles were very different. Skipping Vaan's multiple design and name changes(he was named Aqua initially), the dude wasn't even meant to be part of the main party at all, but was a leftover from a system where you could recruit various NPCs as guest characters to help out on hunts. Vaan was meant to be a white mage-ish character that used his fists to fight(makes you wonder if that's why making him a monk in IZJS is so effective). Everybody knows the rest of the story, Basch got replaced by Vaan as the MC because marketing was trying to pander to the Kingdom Hearts/FF7 Anthology audience.

Oh, and as an addendum, the resulting hybrid dev team went on to make The Last Remnant, a game that shouldn't need an introduction for any true Holla Forumsirgin.

I wanna lift that bitch's skirt up and pump her in the pooper.

Read the bottom of the image.

clearly you don't understand the entirely rational policies of the Scarfolk Public Safety office

I am playing FF12 right now on the PS2. I never played it before and until now I like it pretty much. The battle system is pretty good. I don't understand the hatred it always gets. Also the voice actors are pretty good but interestingly the quality of the recordings seem poor. Like they recorded in some shitty studio and then everything sounds bad quality.

WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY VIERA, BANGAA, NU MOU, AND MOOGLES THAT DON'T LOOK LIKE COTTON BALLS WITH ANTENNA SQUARE-ENIX

WHERE ARE THE SEEQ WHERE ARE THE GRIA WHERE ARE THE LILTIES AND YUKES AND WHATEVER THE FUCK QUINA WAS EVEN VIVI WAS AN INTERESTING DESIGN

WHY THE FUCK IS EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN PLAYABLE CHARACTER AND 90% OF ALL NPCS IN ALL YOUR NEW GAMES A PLAIN, BORING AS FUCK HUMAN DRESSED IN SHIBUYA FASHION FUCKING L'CIES DON'T COUNT

GIVE ME BACK IVALICE, CRYSTAL CHRONICLES, JUST ANY FUCKING SETTING WHERE I CAN HAVE MORE THAN HUMANS IN MY PARTY GODDAMMIT

Someone doesn't remember pic related. The board pretty much discussed it to death back in the day and I'm sure most of the older anons here don't have much more to say about it.

If by MMO you mean FFXI and not the steaming pile of shit XIV is, then sure.

Humans are the master race, chosen by the Gods to rule Ivalice. And they rejected the Gods, where no other race could even dream of having the strength, intelligence, or will to do so.
It's no wonder all the fantasy races died out by the time Tactics takes place, they probably all forgot how to breathe.

The only major complaints I've ever had about it is that it's very easy to get sidetracked by optional content and end up vastly overleveled and overequipped for the story content, and that the journey to Mt. Bur-Omisace and then later Archadia is full of arbitrary stops and detours. The former trip at least integrates them into the plot well enough, but the latter is a completely forgettable trip with no significant plot beats, capped off by a mandatory minigame where you have to keep track of what 40-some NPCs say so you can match them up for points to unlock a flying taxi to continue the plot.

It's telling that SE hasn't learned their lesson from this at all, eleven years after the fact.

hey fuck both of you, XIV is far better than X, XII and the XIII trilogy.

I genuinely can't tell whether you're shitposting or not in regards to my post, given that dragging WH40K philosophy into every serting is a big thing on half and Holla Forums.

Just shitposting. The Bangaa are actually my favorite race in the Ivalice games.

Bangaa are great. I kind of wish Basch was one since it would add more variety to the party and it fits with his role of being a strong, tanky guy. I wonder if SQ will ever revisit Ivalice.

They kinda did with an unreleased game, Final Fantasy Fortress, set in northern Ivalice .

Didn't XIV tease some stuff called "Ivalice Reborn" or something?

I think Ba'Gamnan should've made a face turn or something as the token "enemy becomes ally"

The new 24 man raid is called Return to Ivalice, but it's not gonna be Ivalice itself any more than Syrcus Tower and the World of Darkness were the ones from FF3. It'll just be some place in XIV's world & lore that coincidentally is named Ivalice and has bosses/things referential to FFT & 12.

Sure feels like cuckchan here. While it is odd that its the 2nd FF12 thread this week, its not like its the first FF12 thread ever made. As far as IZJS goes:
Good shite, makes clearing the map way less boring than in the vanilla version
Good shite too. Whoever got the Zodiac spear from a chest might as well be god himself.
Shite. The classes are either broken, OP or useless. The license board is still crap. Its actually better to play the vanilla version and do a forced class challenge than play with the classes given to you by Squeenix.

As far as the game itself goes it probably the last good FF, its certainly better than 15, 2, 8 and 13. It obviously has problems like the story's tone being all over the place, losing traction midway through due to pacing problems and problems with the cast itself. It obviously would've been better to have a Basche + Balthier + Fran banter thing going on yet the cast itself is not complete ass like 10. As annoying as Vaan is he's still better than laughing meme Tidus.

Gameplay wise I like the gambits. It's nice you get em off the bat in IZJS yet all the other stuff makes the game unplayable quite frankly. Even if you don't like gambits you can pretty much play the game like a regular FF. It's gonna be slow as fuck though. In conclusion I'd say the remake is gonna be shit if its still going to be plagued with all the problems from vanilla + IZJS.

huh what why is yuna in ff12?

Yuna's a brunette, that's a blonde.

Weren't they adding a ability to get a second job that wasn't in ZJS?

THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

I'm convinced FFXII would be a 9/10 game if it just dropped the MMO bullshit and had iterated battles with the same system sans movement.

Oh yeah it's awful. Compare the original "Wandering Flame"

to this piece of shit.

I was referring to them doing it again with 12

no shit, we know 12zodiac is a good game. we're discussing how we're not going to pay $49.99 for a game we can fucking emulate for free.