Disgaea 5 seems like a cool game

But seriously, grid-turn-based-strategy is a dead genre. Pity

Am I supposed to stick through this for a few hours before finding out if I'll like it or not? I've heard people say you either instantly love this or hate it but I really can't decide which one I'm sitting on.

See that's the thing, in demon years 1 year = 1,000 years around the age when they start hitting puberty. The aging up in consistent with the lore.

Crap I added an extra zero. I meant 100 years.

DO YA LIEK DA GRINDAN GAEM?

for 60 bucks? yeah probably. youll get more than a dollar per hour of gameplay if thats what you go by and you wont be getting jewed with dlc.
i didnt really know about it at first, im a fan of the series so i got it on the ps4 and i had a mixed reaction at first. some of the non gameplay elements have to grow on you but it didnt take that long for me. in terms of tone, id compare the story and atmosphere to disgaea 2.
heres an example of something that might have to grow on you. embed related is the main hub theme. i was expecting something groovy like 3 and 4 and was really thrown off. at first.

gameplay wise its probably the best one, or at least its my favorite. defense feels relevant again and the main story expects you to do a bit of side game shit and know how the game works well enough as the enemies get pretty powerful. and if you still felt youve overdone it with the powerleveling you dont have to visit the dark assembly every time you want to change the difficulty by one increment. the zombie maids are adorable and a lot of fun to use, theyre item specialists who can use an item as a free action. theres some offensive items for them to play around with, or one of my favorites, 2 attempts at using stealing hands in one turn, potentially disarming 2 enemies, or ripping a lot of rare armor off of them. i like to think since theyre maids theyre trained in undressing people. the item world has less rng to it when youre just trying to max something out, and theres more going on in general, ample bonuses and such.

also seraphina is probably the most attractive romantic interest since rozalin and unlike rozalin you wont feel dirty for fapping to her. unfortunately theres just not much porn of the game.

I bought the collector's edition like a good goy and I'm having feelings of regret but only because of the shit translation, and more specifically i found that one of my male characters said he would like to get a boyfriend. Fucking faggots ruin everything.

Weird, I tried the demo and it's my first Disgaea game too, but I had no trouble following along. It explained the difference between "execute" (perform the actions you've set up thus far) and "end turn" (complete all actions and give give the enemy a turn), as well as the lifting, stacking,and throwing (which seems like it will make for some fucking OP map control). And the way weapons and skills level up is pretty great too.
Seraphina is pretty faptacular too.

oh and how could i forget to mention, monsters have weapon mastery now and they can throw. but not lift, and im not just talking about the "relay toss" that happens when something is thrown on top of a monster, although thats still in too. its more like anything they lift is immediately thrown.

Must you be reminded?

I did too, but I don't feel the regrets because I'm a masochistic Jew. I like the feeling of other Jews Jewing me.

Also, wasn't the translation on this one the most accurate in the series? I remember reading that it was like 98% accurate to the original source. Haku(I think that's the girls name that was to NISA what Tom is to Xseed) said back on the forum that she pushed them to keep this one close to the original as possible and that they came out with 98% accuracy.

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I'm still unclear on one thing
I absolutely hate the english dub. It's awful and full of aids
On the demo lol switch there's a language option that's greyed out. So, I suppose I can change it on the full game. It's the same with the japanese demo, as it has english subs, jap dub, and a grey language option.
HOWEVER, on it's website for the american version, it lists two language options for the game
and fucking french

Knowing that the jap version has jap voices, who would be retarded enough to buy the english version?

Its dual audio, relax your tits. And yes, translation is wrong in some parts.

the prinny's pregnant, d00d? wtf?

I want weebs to go and say go

only good english weeb dubs are in british english

You mean the american version had Jago audio?

This game's English dub is awful

some of the in battle voices are really good in english. and then theres pram, who has the exact same audio files as she did in makai kingdom, and those werent good.

It's being done by NISA. It will be awful.

Bayo, Xenoblade and (I think?) VLR confirm this

disgaea 4 had pretty good voice acting in general

Posting best girl.

Jenifer Hale

Not only are you wrong, but several NISA games had voice acting so bad it crashed the game. Hope this time you can actually finish the game without something fucking up.

Was that ever confirmed? That just seemed too perfect.
That error sounds so tiny I can see why they missed it, but its such a simply fix too. I bet it was just missing a single sound file.
That port pissed me off with just how badly it was handled. Removing the bonus content was just baffling.

Some of these glitches that aren't directly related to language makes no scene.
Did it just try to connect in-defiantly, even after 100 failed attempts? These all sound like say fixes.Maxes you wonder what changing the text to English broke that they fixed immediately.

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Prier is a fertility goddess

She is pretty divine.

Seraphina is nice and all, but holy hell this Priere chick is full on boner fuel.
She's from Disgaea 2 yes? D5 is my first one. I just switched my Nintendo account over to the USA eShop so I could buy it because Nintendo fucking Australia delayed the digital release a week because the actual cartridges got delayed a week in this shithole country.
Fucking launch and price parity for digital and physical goods is bullshit.

youre pretty close. the best girl does have cow features.

no, shes from la pucelle, a sort of precursor to disgaea. shes featured in disgaea 2, but you dont even get to unlock her in that one.

actually, it looks like you can unlock priere in the psp remake.

I want to hang out and train with red magnus and get all buff and just pose and punch things all day

Return to cuckchan with haste.

NEVER GIVE MONEY TO NISA YOU FUCKING RETARD
Never use the excuse of "Well it might be a good game and we need to support good games". It always leads to even more cancer. You are funding the cancer.

She's in D5! Just went scanning through the bonus content and there's a side quest you get as part of the complete DLC package and once completed it unlocks her as an ally and as a save icon.
Fuck yes.
No one told me picking up teammates to make a tower and throw ourselves around a map could be this fun.
I still don't understand mon-toss though. Or the weapon change thing.

Your writing is shit too; could you not take the two fucking seconds to fix your typos? Fuck off.

mon toss isnt complicated, imagine throwing without lifting. monsters just cant 'hold' another character.

Not even a weeb, but English is ultimately inferior in most translations.

I hope they keep adding her. I just wish they had her in a game's actual main story rather then end game DLC. I also miss how the end game DLC use to just be part of the main game until DLC became a thing. It weird they didn't release Her game's remake, but apparently NISA does not own the rights. NIS owns it, but NISA does not, which is confusing. Maybe thats for the best, they they would probably redo all the lines. Apparently, despite a few graphic changes, name and spell renaming, like anything with a cross had to be edited, the dialog remained unchanged.

There are also so many things in La Pucelle that they took out, and later even put back into Disgaea. Like the torture room was in La Pucelle, but back then it was the converting room where you convince them. Worked the same way it works in D5, just changed the words around. I liked how team combat worked. better in La Pucelle. Also seeing an actual map of the world might have just been window dressing in La Pucelle, and Phantom Brave, but the atmosphere was a lot better in those games because of it. The whole world was connected. Especially in La Pucelle, where the battle maps actually could be connected to each other up to a point.

I hope they keep adding her. I just wish they had her in a game's actual main story rather than end game DLC. I also miss how the end game DLC use to just be part of the main game until DLC became a thing. It weird they didn't release her game's remake, but apparently NISA does not own the rights. NIS owns it, but NISA does not, which is confusing. Maybe that’s for the best, they would probably redo all the lines. Apparently, despite a few graphic changes, name and spell renaming, like anything with a cross had to be edited, the dialog remained unchanged.
There are also so many things in La Pucelle that they took out, and later even put back into Disgaea. Like the torture room was in La Pucelle, but back then it was the converting room where you convince them. Worked the same way it works in D5, just changed the words around. I liked how team combat worked. better in La Pucelle. Also seeing an actual map of the world might have just been window dressing in La Pucelle, and Phantom Brave, but the atmosphere was a lot better in those games because of it. The whole world was connected, especially in La Pucelle, where the battle maps actually could be connected to each other up to a point.

Forgot spoiler because of bewbs

Well, it can overheat your system to the point of critical shutdown, yes. This is especially bad if you're running on a phat model.
That particular bug was patched with an update, however.

I got it for 50 Trudeaus on PS4 and it was worth it IMO.

All the anti grind mechanics makes the game a lot more fun. Since now you don't have to completely stop and try to level guys from one. The best runs are when you grind as little as possible since.

Post the rest of those comics faggot

where are the lewds, this game has no lewds

i enjoy it more and i think its better design, but i wonder how many people it ended up making unhappy.

This game is pissing me the fuck off with all of its god damn crashes. It's happened 3 damn times now. It's always when I'm about to finish a map and i make a character use a special. There goes another 30 minutes.

never had a crash in the ps4 version.

It's game free as well, lol.

It's amazing that a NISA game didn't bug out or crash a single time. And nothing was censored either, loli vagina bones and asscrack and all. I am not adverse to giving NISA my shekels when they get things right.

did you buy physical or digital? not that i have a solution, but it might be a good thing to keep in mind

Stop. Buy it used or wait for the eventual PC version and pirate it
Never pay for a NISA product

Or buy it jap
buy it jap!

Nah, NIS is just as bad as NISA. There is a good reason why all their old talent left the company; The higher ups killed their pensions with a loop hole, so all the people that have been with the company for decades were basically new employees again. That's why they all fucked off to Idea Factory, Compile Heart or other devs

I don't see a problem with paying for the localizations they get right and boycotting the ones they don't that way they learn not to be so lazy and put as much effort into all the other games they localize as they did with Disgaea 5.

Monsters just add an extra "bounce" if you throw a character on to them, correct? I haven't bothered using any of my monsters TBH, I've been busy creating an army of waifus.
I never knew grinding could be so comfy. Item World is wonderful, but that Proto Deathdemon or whatever that showed up from an egg drop really ruined my day.

No crashes for me on Switch. What specials are you using to cause a crash?

Seraphina is cute but she has no hips. There is a distinct lack of Oppai among the main characters which is a great disappointment.

Because supporting the ones they get "right" funds them destroying other games.
user. It's been decades. They haven't learned and only get worse because people like you keep funding them regardless. They still make the same mistakes, they still make the same excuses and they still pull the same shit.
Even the series that they did a "decent" localization for had the quality drop hard the first sequel. Atelier games, Neptunia game and more all got worse with every game they handled.

They don't fucking learn, the only reason to support them is if you actively hate the industry and want localizations to get worse. Nothing good comes from giving NISA money

Yes I am well aware of how bad NISA in fact the Disgaea series and 5 in particular seem to be the only games they put any effort into so I thought maybe buying only the Disgaea games might send them a message or maybe I'm being too optimistic.

Here's the thing, NISA isn't listening to any messages, it's not like they do this because they're incompetent and incapable, they do so because they're actively malicious.

You really are being far too optimistic. If you actually want to see them change; giving them nothing is the only way. Especially the Disgaea games since that's the series NIS monitors the sales for in the west and actively pushes for localizations. It's their last big money maker and the western sales are more important than the japanese sales at this point. If Disgaea sales drop, NIS would freak out and do a full crackdown on NISA. Just look at NISA's comments on PC ports in the past; they told NIS there was no market for ports but when other jap devs started swimming in PC port money NIS told NISA to start porting.

You want them to change? You make they loose sales.

Lucky you. The switch version has had two patches so far and two of the crashes have been after both. I guess i shouldn't have expected a fix.

Physical, but according to all my searching it seems to be a 50/50 split leading me to think it doesn't matter.

Specials have been all been different IIRC. First crash was when a Valkyrie used sonic smash. Second was Sera using the rapid arrow and third was a martial artist using triple strike.

Why is prier a demon?

One of the bonus endings in her game. She can become corrupted can becomes a succubus. Then becomes a demon lord. They then made her appear in other games as her demon lord self. Its not canon, as her happyish ending is canon.

DSFARGEG 5 is fine too.

Oh, that makes sense, played the game a long time ago, the only thing I remember are her fantastics legs and the qt shota.

Who decides that when the game never got a sequel?

This sounds like an SJW's wet dream. Who the hell would like this shit?

What, the character design dissonance? Yeah, her art's a lot cuter than the character they used in-game.

Well when you put it that way.

That is actually a plot point for the bonus content in the psp re-release of the game. It also has multiple endings, and depending on what you do she goes full on evil, some messed up chaotic good, or somewhere in between.

They should have just made a Disgaea game with her as the main character, and center the plot around her going from a ninja-nun to an overlord. Especially with the amount of effort they did the psp port.
I think they where Nuns.

monsters can throw without anyone else helping in disgaea 5. they can also "bounce" as a free action.

it wasnt even a real ending, it was just culotte being a douche and narrating a joke about how priere became a demon from kicking too much demon ass. they just rolled with the idea in disgaea for fun.

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They really went that extra mile for Ragnarok then.

It hasn't crashed on me yet.

In case you didn't know, they rated the PC version, so the game is coming to PC

So what is the best version to play La pucelle tactics?

La Puccelle Ragnarok. There is a great fan translation out there that works on PPSSPP

So the crosses and smoking are there? Thanks user, I will replay the game, got a bad taste in my mouth playing the ps2 and reading about the censorship.

Everything is there and you'll love with all the extra content that NIS added

In all honesty that was all they did. Makes you wonder why they even bothered with the crosses, seeing that they are holy people. Smoking though I get. and the dub was actually pretty decent, especially given the time it came out. I find it easier to get absorbed into the story if I hear it in a language I can understand. Still though, psp version at this point is probably the best way to go, especially for extra end game content.

Someone retarded enough to buy from NISA. Unfortunately, there are plenty that fit the bill.

underage plz go

so its only worth full price if you never owned a Disgaea game. But why play full price when you can just play the PSP versions of 1 & 2 for free

the only thing really wrong with 5 is theres no beastmaster or gunslinger theyre so underappreciated, its absolutely criminal.
not that there was much room for gunners with nine tails taking the role of building up the bonus gauge, but they probably could have come up with something interesting for breastmasters.

For anyone who has played both, is 5 better than Diagaea D2?
I did everything up until Baal in D2, but I couldn't beat it. Having to reincarnate 300~ times from level 9999 was too much for me, even if it just took a bunch of hours with my leveling up method it was still tedious.

Mechanically it is the best game yet especially in regards to leveling up, stat building and aptitude. You no longer have to reincarnate hundreds of times for OP stats now there are items you can get from extracting magic potions from prisoners and defeating enemies in revenge mode that permanently boosts stats and a character world that permanently boosts stats and aptitude and promotion where after a while generic units will automatically be promoted to the next rank without having to reincarnate. There is also Netherworld exploration where you can send your generic units and DLC characters to other Netherworlds to level up and collect items while you grind.

How do i subdue an innocent? I have maxed out on how many i can hold and i need to combine these fuckers.

In which game?

5, the game this thread is about.

I want to bend that dick desperado over a wagon wheel and plunge my six shooter into her holster over and over until it fires off a white-hot round inside for a perfect bullseye on her fertile eggs

Got to ask since I never got an answer before, but is the Ragnarok fan-translation a "from the ground up" one using the Japanese script for the PSP version, or did it import most of Mastiff's prior script, fixing things here and there, and then translating the additional content for the first time?

theyre in the item world. beat their ass. im pretty sure one of your guys needs to be the one to deal the killing blow so make it snappy because enemies will go after them too. sometimes when you reach a new floor there will be guys with yellow health bars. you cant miss them because it will tell you "CHECK" and move the camera over to them if theyve spawned on that floor.

its hymen noon

After beating the main story of Diagaea D2 once, I never touched it again on account of the fact that it potentially could brick peoples PS3's.

A reminder D2 and Hundred Knights have CFW required fixes that are a literal one line hex edit patch.

To be honest, I never got fast the first 15 minutes in the PS2 game because of Mastiff. But, having played the entirety of the PSP version I can say I was very happy. I remember reading they they stuck to the original script.

You don't combine Innocents to increase their level, you put them in an item, go to that item world, and then beat them up to raise their level. You can set the item world's nature to have Innocents appear more often if you want to grind them up.
If you want to get rid of some Innocents, just chuck them on an item and trade them in for item points.

I guess I'll take your word for it then (albeit with a grain of salt), thanks.

I still find it a bit ridiculous Mastiff claimed "There are well organized forces that work hard to punish software makers and sellers for what they consider religious transgressions" when Shadow Hearts: Covenant came west just fine that same year, as had its predecessor three years earlier.

Then what is the combine feature for if not to put all of your shitty 1 innocents into one fuck huge monstrosity.

Care to link them?

Offical artwork you say?

you know the best way to grind at the beginning of la pucelle is to continuously kill your teammates over and over again for hours till your strong enough to breeze through the story then go to cave of ordeals

whoa what happened to all the posts after this?

You saved the kingdom with your magic powers.

oh, here the are. whats that all about? this isnt the only thread ive seen this happen to. a bunch of posts are missing from the papers please movie thread too

Just buy the PS4 version, goy

May god bless those nips hearts

I fucking loved my gunslinger when I played 3 on vita
Why the fuck would they remove her?

like i said redundancy. sure, they could have just given her the male gunners skillset. or had her running the rosenqueen shop as a merchant again.
hey, its not like weve seen cheerleader since 3 either.

also, heres a zombie maid being adorable

Disagea is something I will never buy again. I have PSP I have never touched since I compulsively played Disagea on it on hours to end. I lost weight because I forgot to eat. From that period of time everything that mattered was Disagea. In that instant I knew what crack addicts feel like.
I'm a picky gamer. Extremely picky. The games I have had the attention span to play through are counted with five fingers. It's like in these RPGs where you put on points on each stat. I think before I was born I min-maxed most of my gaming points on Disagea. I wish I could play it again, but I can't because I have something of a life now and I can't afford to lose it.