Paladins?

Flankers are OP as fuck especially Skye (which is my main). I do more damage and kill streak than anybody in a match,

That's because you're bad at the game and the people that you play against are also bad, frienddo. Skye is easily the worst character in the game.

or maybe you need to git gud at flanking "frienddo"

It's a fun game until you realise that 90% of the games are either laughable or impossible.
Pro's queue casual because queue time is fucked and you'll often find yourself stuck with retards against a pro team. That's why I gave up after 150 hours.

Flankers are in the high skill cap area. You'll get real shitters playing them or people so good that it will just ruin the match.

Sky is supposedly shit against pro players, but against a normal player she can burst you down before you even have a chance to react.

Kill yourselves Overcucks

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No, if you're at ~2.5k casual elo she's already complete garbage. Her biggest problems are her lack of vertical mobility and her low range.

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It's only slightly better than ow but that's not a high standard. Got bored of it after 50 hours, all matches are the same

>>>/suicide/

how embarrassing

flanks are bad? Ha
i Just fuck everyone up when i play evie.

I wonder how many upboats that one consistently gets on r/overcuck

How about you git gud instead of bitching, its a flank class, I pretty much just kill everyone from behind and everytime I got a kill, the ability timer reset to 0. And her super ability are great to clear out any Frontline class from camping the objective area

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Skye has almost a guaranteed kill with her stealth+poison+whole magazine unload in everything that is not a tank.

Wait, it was different in more aspects before?

I saw a video about Evie after I played her a little, turns out in the video she wasn't nerfed yet, she had a chill aura on ice block and she was able to teleport while frozen, she would have been one of my favorites back then.

You have no idea of the game. I got to top 100, posted on the generals of Paladins when we had them here, posted proof of it, played with some anons and after a while I stopped playing because of the stupid decisions, the long ass queue and because on the top 100 we were facing each other to the point that we knew what was going to happen who we had to focus and had a chat after a match all of us in a friendly way because we met in every single game.

Evie was a great character and the most fun the game had next to Bomb King, then they nerfed her because her cards were broken. Instead of nerfing the cards, they just nerfed the character harshly.
She was still doable if you were a Master with her, Evie could still carry matches, but the effort that you needed to put to do that after the nerf was inmense.

In the top the only Flank worth playing is Androxus, most of the time is two tanks two damage and a support, sometimes a flank instead of two damage. However, if you were just good a damage would see the flanker and destroy him.

The game is awful right now, just don't play it.

I'll admit Skye low hp and doesn't make it suitable for full frontal combat or camping the objective area but she gain 10% speed boost when turn invisible, can reset her timer for every kill and can drop a bomb that can kill eveyone. If I failed to kill them (mostly frontline class) I just drop a smoke bomb and run away. Other than that, I can pretty just sneak up on anyone and kill them from behind

I completely gave up on her when devs nerfed her ult into the fucking ground because shitters couldn't hide behind a rock or tree, making her a literal dead weight that does absolutely nothing other than dying.

Everything you say is invalid because Androxus does the same thing, just way better. t. top 1000 player

not much of a flank if I can see you from a mile away

What good does turning invisible do you when theres illuminate and Lex?
Androxus flanks by having the best mobility skill in the game and being an actual threat (unlike skye).

You can hear her move even on invis, you know where she is going.
She makes a really loud sound when turning invis and turning off invis.
She has no movement, only "speed" which is way easier (compared to any other flank) to follow and thus kill. Splash damage is even easier to land on her because of that.
Her ultimate is trash and only used to save the point for two or three seconds.
The poison is trash because at best you will trade your death for a kill, the poison can be healed since damage over time is one of the worst things in any game that has healing.
Her damage is meh.

Yeah, think again, this is why you think Skye is OP, because you play with really awful players.

And that, if we dont even count that you can pick up items to counter Skye so you can fucking negate her invis.
She is complete and utter TRASH, she went from top tier to "I dont know why it exists" with a single patch.

Sounds like you don't know what lex does. He tracks one target and gets bonus credits for killing them. If he's within a certain range they get revealed to him. Since Hi-Rez hate Skye it of course works through stealth to make her even easier to counter :^)

I wish at least she kept the chilling aura on ice block.

Also here's some hard data (from all skill levels, so not completely relevant) on flanks being shit thebettermeta.com/charts/role_splits/

tried this shit again because I was getting tired of mercy in highmasters/grandmaster OW.
how did paladins get worst as time went on.
doesn't help NA competivie is seen as a somewhat a joke to most players in higher ranking cause of all the bullshit matchmaking against each other you'll get premades getting matched with 2-3 Tiers below or above them kind of shit. and the amount of rage quitters and Oh your not playing heroes that I don't like or don't fit my little special meta world I'm gonna throw players. and supports suffer more so because of this not to mention Support SR gain is pretty messed up at times.

Fuck me, having 0 flanks increases your win rate more than having 1 or 2.
And again, we can see from this chart that the most important role is no other than the tank and then the support.

Wait, Paladins MM is worse than Overwatch?

It's probably partially like this because the 3 decent flanks (Andro, Lex and Evie) all have a fairly high skillfloor. Then again in pro play pretty much only Andro/Lex see any play, rarely Evie and barely ever Buck. Most of these Evie/Buck picks are in Burgerland though and Burgerland is pretty terrible at this game.

It's mostly the long queue times because no one really plays ranked. There's no rank decay so people just get the border they want and quit playing ranked. Took me 4 hours to get 7 games on my BK and I only got the platinum border for 7/7 wins, so fuck ranked.

Have some guy that good absolutely booty blasted because I cucked them in ranked (with my aimbotting BK). He threatened to backtrace my IP and hire a hitman to come kill me later. He was still going 2 hours after the match.

Where do Hamburgers come from? I mean, they are associated with America, but aren't the supposed to come from Hamburg Germany?

Also, why are the cosmetic items so shitty in Paladins? the only good thing so far is the non-Torbjorn TF2 skin.

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Does anyone really play Battleborn?

maybe randy

Can you imagine him playing his game at home trying to convince himself how his game is great and still commissioning some r34?

No.

Absolutely. The 50 or so people still playing on steam are probably all gearbox employees idling.

Sounds like HOTS tbh

everytime

I just began playing around the time they introduced Willow, how was the game before that? what changed?

skye is like the opposite of every other flanker, tons of damage with very low survivability.
as opposed to evie whos been nerfed into oblivion damage wise, but has 3 ways to escape a bad situation.

i will not argue against that, the potential for annihilation is there, although didnt they move the damage bonus on poisoned targets to one of those stupid cards? i havent played in a while, but that seems like a really big deal.
the thing is, any flanker that isnt androxus has a very low effective range, some of them lack damage falloff so they can take potshots, but its almost never going to hit anything but a shield. hey, at least thats something. but unlike the rest of those "shotgun range" flankers, skye has to walk everywhere, and has pretty long cooldowns.
its why they moved some of the movement speed from her card into stealth, innately. she just cant get around without that skill.

evie being 'broken' is largely due to how ridiculously hard it is to finish her off. that has as much to do with herself as it does her cards. but i wonder if the tipping point was wormhole. honestly, i could live without it. but i want her to be able to kill things.

i cant speak for him, but during the time i was playing they went on a crusade against flankers and front liners. it pretty much boiled down to sheer damage the last i remember. well, healing is still important. it isnt such a horrible thing because it still ended up being fun, but half of the roster existing mostly just to challenge myself really bugs me. it bugs me more when i think about how if it drew more from "casual" tf2 than 6v6 competitive tf2 half of these problems wouldnt exist.
there would be more isolated targets trying to gain a better position, so skye would have her niche, evie wouldnt be able to get away with as much crap because theres more enemies in general so it would be more difficult for her to retreat and lick her wounds, so she wouldnt have gotten nerfed.
tanks wouldnt have been nerfed and the shield breaking item wouldnt have been buffed because there would be more guns firing at them the whole time.

so maybe we would lose ults because those things would be going off constantly, but unlike overwatch i never felt like characters in paladins were designed around having an ult, so i would make that trade in a heartbeat.

I certainly feel like ults in Paladins are not usually a guaranteed wipe button.

When I said "Sky is supposedly shit against pro players" I said supposedly because I am not a pro player and are only repeating what other people say.

I am the type of person who gets killed by players like you. Especially on low hp champions. Btw whats with the autistic self-aggrandisement? Insecure?

Fucking cosmetic recolors, of course the only different looking cosmetics have to be purchased with real money, stupid special chests don't even give you 3 items.

i wouldnt say they are in overman either, but theres certainly a few characters who i feel were designed with their ult in mind. mercy, winston, tracer and reaper come to mind. people who would be exceedingly mediocre without their ult.
if i were forced to come up with an example in paladins i would probably say torvald and thats less because he would be ineffective without it and more to do with how he would feel kind of boring without those outbursts.
in none of these cases would the character be hard to bring back up to speed without their ult if they did fall behind without it, in either game.

Is it the Mario kart of fps?

>>>/reddit/
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i played about 6 hours. basically no reason to play. if you're going to play this type of game, might as well pick up overwatch.

But what if you only have a PC? I just started playing and it isn't bad but not that great either.

Nah. While Paladins is still pretty shit, it is the objectively better if you want at least some mechanical skill to be required. The TTK isn't .2 seconds on every character yet.

NVM for some reason I thought OW was only on console, Im a retard

RIP beta Skye mains

Both Paladins and Overwatch are cucked normalfag-tier games with shit characters and shit mechanics. However, Paladins is a slightly more healthy turd than Overwatch. If you choose Paladin-turd, you most likely suffer from some kind of illness that is however treatable. If you play Overwatch-turd however, you suffer from a deadly disgusting disease

why is this fairy so lewd

Paladins is more of a MOBA than Overwatch and holyshit why is every character exept maybe Fernando so visualy awful

The only character that I find appealing is Bomb King (and ironically, it's the only character that isn't a straight copy/paste from somewhere else). I also like Buck and Fernando but other than that the character design is complete shit on top of being all over the place.
Instead of having waifu bait trash as the face of the game, they should've put Bomb King instead.

If only she wasn't so fucking ugly and had less horrendous meme dialogue.

Visually and vocally Bomb King is a really good original design complimented by the narcissistic way he talks. I could easily picture him as mascot material, do you know how quickly plushes of his bombs would sell if they were avaliable.

What the fuck is this?

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Even the porn for this game is shit.

Nando is by far the lamest FL to play. Makoa/inara at least have to aim. Also hooking people off the map feels amazing

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Skye is literaly the worst Flank. Andro and Aimbot Nigger are the good ones

Bullshit, Makoa is the most fun to play FL

Right now he's pretty lame to play but before all the nerfs he was the frontline with the most mobility and could deal some good damage. Depends how you used to play him of course, with the right cards you could get movespeed out of you fireball and charge, your charge could also get refilled from your shield (which never lasts long against people with a brain anyway). The absolute worst way to play him was just standing on the point with your shield forever activated.
Of course now he's boring to play because his fireball stack got moved to legendary and he got a lot of other nerfs.

I really hate the legendaries.
Not to mention that most of the time every champion has one card that objectively better than the rest.

Even in Flanknando prime like 20 patches ago I found him lame as fuck to play. Felt like an even more braindead W+M1 Pyro. Makoa a best.

Any EUfags wanna play?

How's that tinfoil, faggot.

legendaries made me stop playing for a while with how they were implemented. some characters essentially got a bonus card to pick, while others had features that the character relies on moved to them, leaving them behind. you cant even fully restore cassies death combo. you pick one skill or another to enhance. am i missing something? was she in line for a nerf anyways?

that extra 40% damage card is fucking insane on damage allies, and the massive shield on already beefy point friends is too good

though I do have to say I get bored more on OW, paladins has more strategy overall with the inbattle and external card management, plus paladins is faster paced
In OW some points can take 15 seconds to walk to, it's kinda annoying

Gosh I just love playing uninspired F2P ASSFAGGOTS made by the chinks who are doing their best to destroy everything that was ever good about the videogames industry

Cassie was one of the OP Characters that everyone wanted to get nerfed.

I want to run that one, it sounds pretty good on paper but I don't really trust other people, just imagine that on a Tyra who marked some or Drogoz.

I am highly pleased by this

that's why you have to be in a call with them, so they can call out when they need it or when they're about to get hit and need a bubble
it's very communication reliant to run smoothly, otherwise you will miss when they need protection or bubble them when they cant see a target

everyone wants everyone nerfed except kinessa. theyre so thrown off by a sniper not one shotting everything under the sun.

They should just scrap the game and let other devs use Bomb King

Never again

As a retard who bought Overwatch due to Paladins. They're are practically the same.
Also, Paladins has better netcode, flanking and waifus.

Save your cash and just play paladins.

HiRez hate Skye and Cassie, who are in fact my favourite characters. HiRez are a bunch of fucking kikes, that's for sure.

Where's this 30 crystals a day thing? Sounds good to me. Better than 50 a fucking week if you remember to log in every fucking day.

So it's a ticket to Isreal or Arab Saudi?

Hi-Rez is not Chinks.
At least do your research before shitposting.

Technically though, Hi-Rez has worked with those chinks from Tencent to bring their games to China.

It is a special promotion for the weekend. Basically, to promote people playing. You have to *win* mind you.

Thanks. This weekend will be fun. 450 crystals for stomping pubbies will be a cake walk.

Fuck it, I'll reinstall it.

Fucking Hi-Rez.

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no

That is also Skye's life story. I think she might be the worst Champion, her or Grover. Funny thing, when it comes to nerfs they always fuck things up.

Fernando's shield always worked like that and Barik deserved the nerf honestly.

so we gonna play or what? is true you can't make premade teams for comp?

Only 2 man parties in comp, but no one plays comp anyways. Casual is where it's at.

Torvald's nerf was extra retarded since Hi-Rez's excuse was literally "Not enough people are buying his direct counter, so we nerfed him." The poor guy in his current state is virtually unplayable against any team with at least half a brain to share between them. When you start balancing your game to appeal to the lowest common denominator, then you dig deeper to find an even lower denominator to appeal to, your game isn't long for this world.

Comp is for turbonerds with a hardon for metas and aversion to fun. Rank doesn't mean shit and is mostly broken anyways. There are master ranked players that have played three games with their hero. It's pointless dickwaving, only the dick you're waving is exceptionally unremarkable.

Honestly the drafting in ranked is fun. The thing that makes it horrible to play is the guaranteed 12 minute queues if you're somewaht high elo.

shits fun if you have a fun team to play with it

add me if you want to play, I usually start to scream to bait southamericans into rage

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Spotted the newfaggot who never played Global Agenda, Tribes, or Smite. Enjoy your pump-and-dump Overwatch clone.

If I wanted to play Overwatch with shittier art and made by an even shittier company, I'd be hard-pressed to choose between Paladins and Battleborn.

TIME FOR AN OVERWATCH THREAD

How does this matter? Even if they make it completely p2w, fuck up the balance and stop patching the game, why should I care?

Who cares about art in a multiplayer shooter? While the gameplay isn't really great, it's still way better than overwatch.

jiggle physics

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add osain, I have over 400 reports for racism. I am a good person and I enjoy sharing my good vibes with the whole world.

Patch preview today right ? I can't wait for the Buck nerfs.

I'm obviously talking about paladins. From Stillborn gameplay I've seen the TTK isn't 0.1 seconds and there seems to be no instakill ults which does make it sound better than overwatch.

Why buck nerfs? He's already pretty bad.

It was just my japes, I'm hoping Buck gets a buff of some sort because he was already bad before they gimped his health.

NEW CHIMP SHES A PINK HAIRED GURL

They should make Recovery healing immune to cauterize or something. Or just completely reword his kit since it just doesn't really work, but skye is probably first on the rework list I hope.

rework his kit*

I'm starting to think Bomb King was a fluke and their character desingers can't make something appealing for shit.
That's now TWO (2) pink haired gurrlll with Maeve.

He's supposed to be an in-your face flank but he has even worse damage than Androxus who doesn't even need to get close to people and gets ripped to shreds against any team that had cauterize. He either needs a rework or some serious buffs (not those chickenshit ones "+1 damage to pellets LEL xD").

That +1 damage buff or whatever apparently helped because people always survived with 10 hp so he needs 1 less shot to kill now. But yeah, he's pretty bad right now.

lol at this place

They also used that damage buff to justify for his 200hp nerf so really it's one step forward two steps back with lo-rez.

I think Grover needs the Rework. It is contradictory. Forcing you to either do damage or heal.

Most likely, I like Makoa and Drogoz thought. Most characters are just generic. If I had to call anyone ugly, it would be Ruckus

I don't even understand why, he was never picked and high level. He wasn't even good.

Paladins is a more interesting game than Overwatch but it's held back by its F2P BR HUEHUEHUE retard playerbase.

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The opposite. Everyone fucking sucked and I got tired of stomping them.

yeah, thats what happened :^)

I remember you could cheese people as Barik by using his CD+Duration cards along with the shield legendary- managed to get 300k shielding with it one time. That nerf was still really gay though.

k

For what is worth, the BRs should, in theory, by in their own server now.

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Actually enjoying the "it's just a prank bro! xD" fag fairy, kill yourself. Then again not surprised with you liking this game.

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If you get your elo high enough, this really shouldn't be a problem.

That guy posted in the generals we had. He's from here.

I got to play both with him and against him (because there weren't that many people at the time, I guess?)
He's actually a decent player and you could rely on him not to fuck it up like most of the playerbase does.

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How the fuck can you mess up something cute looking like a red panda ?

It would be the first time. Look at Plushy Makoa

Inara fucking nerfed into the ground again. What the fuck are they doing? She'll see 0 play again.

RIP Inara
OB50 - OB50

Did I hear it correctly ? She's now slowed while firing like Ruckus and Nando ? Wew.

good job Lo-Rez you might just kill your game in a few months

Maybe she'd have been fine with just the 60% healing, but that slow while shooting is just ????

Whats wrong with BK? Sure he's strong, but he's not that OP.
t. BK main

I get the feeling this is gonna be broken but let's wait I guess

The problem is that they nerfed Fusillade but didn't touch Burger King so he's going to be even more of a no brainer now.

Fuck Fusillade. Just braindead spamming from long range is boring as fuck. At least you won't randomly die at 50% hp to just spam rockets. And it's not like his other legendaries are much worse. Drogoz legendaries should be the role model for all legendaries.
The booster nerf on the other hand is rather questionable.

>there are people posting on Holla Forums right now that dont want to romance fairies

What did you mean by that?

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With a good team nando ult should still be way better. Her ult actually sounds pretty meh to me, we'll see how it goes.

if you take the damage reduction on the wario dash, would she be able to survive a dragon punch if she charges straight in to it?

gross

That nerf hurt so fucking bad man, so bad
Now he gets absolutely shredded against anyone with wrecker 2, anyone
HiRez is completely retarded, they made healers useless because lmao caut 3, torvald useless because lmao wrecker 3, it's just better to run a well coordinated damage/flank only team at this point

At least Makoa is still the "Must pic" Champion. Funny thing that is not due his defensive abilities as a tank but thanks to the Hook being really good, even better when it is used by good players, then it becomes a sure kill. It is really sad that they are so hell bent on making more defensive playstyles and champions shit.

"imgayforbbc" is the one that gets me every time.

Patch Notes are up:
forums.paladins.com/showthread.php?41993-Open-Beta-51-Patch-Notes-June-1st-2017

For those interested in some highlights:

Andro and Drogoz deserved it, Kinessa getting a nerf is retarted, she has the worst winrate and need a special team comp to work so why? The Inara one pisses me off, the Cau immunity was all the had going for her and that is gone. The Seris one is strange but meh.
Will Drogoz and Andro stay meta? I doubt that Andro will fall but who knows? Drogoz got dicked very hard on his mobility but the reduction to the Damage Legendary is fine by me.

regardless of whether or not wrecker needed a buff, theres so many shield shattering abilities these days that they could roll it back somewhat and see how it goes, maybe decrease the price if they really want people to pick it up so badly. honestly, i hardly ever upgrade it to 3 because i could be buying something that .
its a dangerous game though, any buff to shields are an indirect buff to healers, which also affects front liners. "tank metas" will spring up anywhere they can because theyre brainless and safe and thats even less fun than a quarter of the cast being of questionable use.

thats not a kinessa nerf ya git, that gives her an extra 2 seconds to maintain the steady aim buff.

No. Dragon Punch ignores any DR.

That's objectively wrong. Frontlines are still by far the strongest characters in the game, especially in lower skill levels. Same for supports, if you don't have at least one support you pretty much auto lose.

If wrecker gets nerfed we're back to 2 FL meta, maybe even 3 FL. That sounds really fucking awful.

I've never read a more retarded justification for a nerf in my life. I mean I know that the intent was a nerf and that the justification is just there to sweeten the pill but still couldn't have they come up with something better than "it was confusing so we nerfed it, now it's not confusing anymore :^)".
This isn't even just Lo-Rez doing that, a lot of companies making F2P will often bring something up like convenience or "value" when making a change to fuck you even deeper in the ass.

honestly, as long as the team is doing what they need to be doing it works out fine, but a frontliner is a support role and youre relying on people who might not be worth supporting. even if youre not carrying by slaughtering the entire enemy team or halting 5 of them in their tracks youre still very much the center of the battlefield. but theres so much these days that force front liners out of the positions they would prefer, will your team put similar pressure on their front lines?

oh i love corporate buzzwords.

I actually agree with them, that "debuff immunity" was confusing and dumb the way it was used. The first round I played post OB50 we had a torvald that tried to ult her off the map on jaguar falls and nothing happened at all. No one would assume that "debuff immunity" would make you immune to absolutely every effect in the game (for some reason not drogoz combustible dot, which you'd assume it makes you immune to) even pure CC like Damba stuns or Torvald ult.

So what would the solution to that be? Make frontliners unkillable, godly killing machines? I don't really get your point. Of course FL/Support rely on damage/flankers to a large degree, but thats how it should be, no?

i dont have a solution, thats the role you sign up for

That could be solved that clarifying what is a “Debuff”. It seems in this case it was "Any Status Effect". Torvald's ult is probably classified as CC since it is about repositioning the enemy.
So far Debuffs are:
They just don't want a FL meta so FL that is hard to kill thanks to Cau Immunity is bad for them. Moreover, you can't fuck her with Tyra's Molotov or Skye's Poison, which really fuck tanks. It could also be that they don't want anyone giving Ash any competition. I am surprised that they touched Andro, I feel like they will release a new mobile flank soon.

Pretty sure that any and all CC is counted as a debuff in Paladins. Maybe it's hard to change the way it works due to some code fuckery or maybe they're just lazy and couldn't be bothered to fix it.
Ash seems pretty bad from what I've played on PTS. I don't think she'll be good at all.

Yep, All CC is counted as a Debuff. Also, Assuming that the way, Cau, the item that gives more healing and Inara's new Earthen Guard giving 60% more healing so she could still get full heals Since it would be something like
What I don't get is the self Slow, that shit is dumb. I want to try Ash, hard to tell if something is good or bad too early. I hope she is good or atleast not Skye Tier

I don't think the math works like that. I know for a fact that Rejuvenate is counted after Cauterize, so a seris heal while Caut 3'd and having Rejuvenate 3 is 130hp/s. I doubt the 60% would work differently. It'll probably just be 190hp/sec.
R I P I N A R A

what did they meme by this ?

Huh, they said in the patch notes that Cau and the 60% are aditive. So at max cau she is getting 30% less heal instead of 90. If what you are saying is true then the equation is something like
At least it is still more healing than what must thanks have.

Gotta shill the new champ. Give them a patch before Ash gets nerfed a la Torvald.

The thing about Inara was that her damage was completely insane. Even in pro matches she'd top damage very often. This was mostly because she's pretty much impossible to kill, even 1v5 as long as she gets healed and knows when to retreat. So if you won the first point fight, Inara could just zone the enemy team forever and never allow a retake.
Ash on the other hand barely does any damage from what I've seen, so it really isn't comparable.

Well if they said it works like that I guess that'd be the formula then. Didn't really pay too much attention so I must have missed it. But Rejuv is definitely applied after cauterize right now.

The knockback possibilities seem pretty good. I'd pick her just to relive the good ol' days before the 9/11 jolt nerfs

If I recall correctly, Tencent and some other Chinese companies did invest into Hi-Rez.
I put 40 hours in this game and frankly, I didn't think it was too good. It was clone Overwatch with MOBA elements in many ways.
Sage for off topic.

I did the math and assuming that Rev is the last thing to be applied:
Soo, a seris would be healing 910 every second. That is about 9% less healing. Without Rev, she is healing 700 every second. That is assuming that you have Cau 3. Maxing out REV is far easier than Maxing out Cau. She might still a chance, or so I hope at least

I guess it does deliver an authentic TF2 experience

Actually Inara might be pretty good still. I didn't know that her healing reduction worked like that. She won't be as strong as she's now, but I think she'll still be around as strong as Barik, which i find to be balanced pretty well.
Also having the healing increase tied to the base ability and not the legendary actually makes her other legendaries usable.

I searched and couldn't find anything on tencent investing in Hi-Rez. They're just publishing Smite in china or some shit. Guess that's still pretty gay but I can live with that.

Heh, funny thing, most Champs have one Legendary that is much better than the rest. I think the only exception is drogoz where all of the cards are good.

I just started to play this a couple of days ago and it's pretty fun to be honest. Anyway, is Mal Damba any good? I like poison boys

Seris, Mal Damba and Ying are the best Healers at the moment, so yeah.

Apparently grover related poses, voice lines, and emotes cause this

if you can land your shots and have the fully upgraded cooldown reduction on miss card, he's the best healer

that's a auto lose

i always wanted to play fernando around his charge knockback card so they know its "mine" but its so weak, a total waste of points. ash seems like an extreme of this concept, but it really comes down to how well her shield works.

i havent tried seris, but maldamba has been my favorite support by far. hes flexible, but still an exceptional healer. if it comes down to it, you have the option of playing him aggressively. when im playing other supports im always wishing i could help bring down their fatties faster. you can shut down a shitty kinessa when your flankers suck, but still contribute to the objective with your long range heals.
basically, if you have to do everything but also heal hes your guy.

i know what will put some shape back in to her
my wiener

They made a handfull of new characater since last i played but still the same goddamn maps

I think these f2p of games should let players make maps for them

im a little miffed that some of the maps from siege were removed so they could be converted to payload maps. why not keep both? might just be for testing purposes.

Seris is fucking great, her healing capacity and escapes are ridiculous.

I am still mad that it is Skye and Grohk's F fused and improved. It lasts more than both (without cards). At least Grohk's F should be buffed to last 5 seconds too.

It gets even worse if you have the faster movespeed card, I almost never die as her because of it.

I once had a Pip on my team that went 49-0 against the enemy team, they literally could not even leave their spawn point. To this day i have no idea what the fuck happened.

he unleashed his pent up fur-y

I'm not even joking, either this guy was a God or he was hacking, not a single bullet managed to hit him as he was constantly jumping around at 99.9% health murdering everyone, sometimes from 30+ feet away.

But Inara either took Mother's grace and was S+ tier or took something else and was B tier. No other character is that extreme. Also Pip's legendaries are pretty good.

Willo is mediocre in almost every case and caut 3 only gets online late and even then it's easy to get out of combat for 1.5 seconds, especially for tanks that can just shield up like Nando. If your team doesn't have a healer and the enemies do, you lose unless your team vastly outskills the enemies.

Almost sounds like you played against Bellanoche. I'm a top 1000 player and when I play against him he single handedly destroys my entire team as Pip and spawncamps us. Pip is pretty damn good if you're a godly player.

I think this guy was called something like bestNA or what ever, and luckily he was on our team.

Maybe he was just very good as Pip. He's pretty fun to play, he has great mobility, good damage, a great ult and he can self heal. He's the weakest sustained healer but he's actually a character you can still have fun playing despite your team being drooling retards.

Also, he's one of the handful of characters who has 3 great legendaries.

so it is me or does gold come more slowly these days?

i always thought grohk was the weakest sustained healer because of the damn cooldown.

Most people playing Grohk use the card that shaves off 4 seconds on the Totem whenever using Ghost Walk (just pop in and out of it if your teammates are going to need healing soon). Also, most points have at least one cheeky spot where you can put your totem, with Healing Rain IV it makes a pretty good AoE heal. The problem is that if your teammates are shit you will be too busy using the Totem on yourself because you're picking up the slack of the damage characters and/or they'll straight up never go in your totem AoE.

In my opinion Grover is the worst support right now, not necessarily because of the heals but aside from an ultimate that's mitigated by cauterize and a root for which you need a legendary he doesn't really bring anything special to the table. His escape is great but tricky to use and has a medium cooldown.

his problems go further than cauterize. like with grohk, it can be a little annoying how you have to be right next to the guy you want to heal, but its even worse for grover because half of his (non ult) healing power requires you to stick to wounded people which is already annoying and dangerous but on top of that it doesnt allow you the flexible positioning you would want to make full use of your weapon. on top of that hes fucking huge

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They extended the crystal thing to Monday.
Let's be thankful to our jewish overlords, we can get one Buck hair recolor now.

So let me get this straight…
This faggoty piece of shit game is allowed to be discussed peacefully and yet Overwatch threads are filled to the brim with trolls and people trying to derail the thread.

Anyone want to make the case that Overwatch is hated for legit reasons and not just because it is popular and/or made by Blizzard?
I propose now is the time to do that.

Hello and welcome to Holla Forums and other similar image boards.

Since this is your first day, I will let you in on a little secret.

Lurk more.

Stay mad Overcuck.

It's funny because even as a massive pile of shit this thing is still a better FPS than Overwatch.

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Didn't expect this thread to be alive, I decided to re-check how hitboxes seem to be worse than in Overwatch.

its free to play so brazilians dont get jealous

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Honestly I see a trend here over the years and basically its that any game that is free (or can become free easily) gets automatic positive points to it in the hive-mind of Holla Forums.

They gob rib of paid mods so dab's nod a probem eiber :DDDDDD

Many of the complaints you can throw at Overwatch apply as well to Paladins, some even in double.
What's more, Paladins has it's own set of problems too that Overwatch doesn't and ironically out of both games, it's the one closest to a MOBA since you get credits for killing people or doing objectives that you can buy items to power yourself up.

To be consistent, this board would require double the autism it usually shows on Overwatch present on this thread, at least if all the shitpost was truly about all the flaws you posted here or how it's a FPSMOBA.
But if Paladins is mostly ignored while Overwatch triggers so many people, maybe it's none of those things that upset so many people? Maybe it's the devs behind it and how popular it actually is?
Especially consider that the fags shitposting in Overwatch threads also hate Undertale and the shitpost there only started after the game got popular and the identity of the author was better known.

Really speaks volumes about the shitposters when they only show up for popular games made by unpopular devs.
Kinda shooting yourself in the foot, being predictable like that, but then again patterns and repetition are expected from legit autists.

The fact that Overmeme is made by Blizzard, is popular and isn't free obviously plays a part in the shitposting but thinking that it is the only reason is delusional. I also don't understand why you are bringing some sort of hive mind when both Overwatch and Paladins are hated by the majority of Holla Forums simply for riding a trend of merging FPS and ASSFAGGOTS into one game (Dirty Bomb, R6 Siege), yet we can discuss Paladins relatively peacefully. The fact that we CAN do that might actually be proof that the hive mind is just a load of bullshit made up by people insecure about what they do of their free time.

If you're wondering why discussion about Paladongs can happen but not Overmeme, I'll try to sum it up as best as I can. First, there's the games themselves : Overwatch has a great packaging from its character design, to the animations, art direction, sound design and so on and so forth. Where things start to get sour is roughly everything important for a video game to have long lasting appeal which is to have good gameplay (ranging for chokepoint-y level design to unadapted TTK).
Paladins has terrible character design (aside a couple of flukes like Burger King) and pretty much terrible everything else regarding presentation but manages to hit some right notes in key areas. Everyone will have different reasons but what is often brought up is :

Paladins has its fair share of flaws too, which are classic Lo-Rez balance that slowly erode the game over time, terrible Legendary system that fucked over some characters and Essence that is a perpetual grind. Overall, both games are pretty bad because they have huge balance problems that shouldn't exist considering they've been out for so long.
The second aspect is just the userbase, while the average Overwatch player is usually an obnoxious cunt that can't stop waifufagging for 2 minutes (or post into other threads of the kind of games to complain how they're persecuted), the Paladins threads has been pretty civil up until you showed up and decided to shit it up. In fact, had you come in and decided to talk about the game, anons here would have been more than happy to give your their genuine opinion on it.
Obviously, this is just my take on why Overwatch threads are shitposted to death and some stuff may be debatable.

I did play Overwatch, by the way.

All valid points but I think he was wondering about the missing rabid knee jerk reaction that happens in those threads but doesn't happen as such in Paladongs.
I got to try both as well and I can agree with everything you said, although I'd expand that some of Paladin's strengths are also some of it's weaknesses.

While Overwatch has you being very, very dependant on your team to win regardless of who you pick, Paladongs practically allows lone wolf roamers to be viable to the point that it ruins the entire concept of teamwork vital for that particular genre.
Overwatch can also see some comebacks since Ultis are one-shot advantages while Paladongs instead has items you can buy increasing the difference in power between both teams when often the team that needed an extra help is the losing one. Paladongs snowballs much, much harder than Overwatch.

Regardless, this wasn't the point he was trying to make and he is right. It doesn't make sense that the usual crowd who shitposts there doesn't shitpost here as well at all. I doubt any of the posters here are shitposters from those threads, so where the fuck are those autists?
It must follow that it it's indeed because it's popular and because it's Blizzard (who admitedly deserve the flak they get) and not because of actual criticism about the game.

This still bothers me, I wish they solved that.

Me too, if only they made proper hitboxes, added melee and crouching I would be set.

cuckchan has an Overwatch general. Go post there, loser.

I think a Melee Champion would be cool but it would need to either a Super Mobile Flank or a REALLY bulky Tank. Crouching, I don’t know, it seems natural on humans. Actually, that sounds doable for everyone but Makoa.

Just recicle Makoa's shielding stance and that's it, crouching is basic on these games for taking cover, hell, sometimes the only reason one dies while escorting the payload is because one can't crouch next to it.

this game needs bigger hitboxes, otherwise anyone with movement abilities would be unkillable

These aren't even good ones though, they are literally one giant hitbox.

you know, we would definitely have waifu posters if the game had more lewds and fan art and it would have more of that if it were more popular. i get the feeling you would be posting bomb king

there was a time when the payloads hitbox was a bit higher and it was bullshit because the aoe in this game is a joke. i think smaller characters can still make good use of it. but in the end the characters who are meant to stand on the objective can usually create cover.

that combined with the aoe being a joke would make the projectile weapons in the game impossible to use against anything but a frontliner or grover if hitboxes werent a bit generous.

the hitboxes look a bit silly if you take them out of context but im pretty sure its for the sake of game balance and not an oversight.

Speaking of AoE, Skye's bomb goes through walls, I assume a lot of those do the same, is stupid.

what? its not supposed to go through walls, hell, half the time i survive it is because i used the payload as cover.
but yeah, some aoe effects do go through walls, like grohks healing totem. and i assume thats because its so low to the ground that theyre worried a small bump on the gruond would screw up the healing effect.

It doesn't go throught walls. Hell, the payload covers it.

Perfect summary pretty much. Exactly how I feel about Paladindus.

there was this time I was using Evie, the bomb was next to the payload, I got down a ramp for cover, tall enough to cover me, still got killed.

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No, fuck that. If you miss your shots you should be punished and lose 100% of the time. And what would crouching even add?

They should for sure fix the head hitbox so it's not completely fucking random and maybe not make the hitbox a straight up square.
I think the big hitboxes should stay, since otherwise mobility becomes even better and mobility is already king. Quake 3 has pretty similar hitboxes, just a seperate head hitbox and not just a hugesquare.

It's probably because of the xbox hueg hitboxes. If you ever get into a kinessa battle on timber mill you'll notice that you can shoot the enemy kinessa even when she's completely out of sight on a ramp/behind some crates. So your hitbox was probably slightly out of cover.

Just quick melee, not CoD 1HKill melee, also, crouching is essential for taking cover.

Obviously I'm talking about quick melee too. If you're andro and get someone down to 100 hp but miss your last shot, you should die for it. No dashing in and quick meleeing them. The game isn't balanced around it and it would make the game less skill based.

Again, the game isn't balanced around it, the maps aren't made with crouching in mind and all it does is make the game slower. I don't really see the point at all. There's plenty cover right now.

Actually there would be even more cover if crouching was there, finishing with quick melee is not exactly a game breaker, or you say Makoa's Ult is broken?

Sure there would be even more cover, but why? Whats the point? There's enough cover right now.
Makoa ult isn't broken, but it definitely makes him much less skillbased. I don't want to 1v1 someone and then get meleed after they missed their shots.

You speak as if quick melee would have TF2 levels of damage.

Even 100 damage would be too much. If you miss you should be fucked with no way out.
I still don't understand what either of the two would bring to the game. Just adding random shit probably won't make the game better.

Just a complement, but then again, nothing will make you change your opinion.

The problem with covers only make the game slower. The character would be demanding the player yo fo his action and then run away to take cover meanwhile your team keep fighting. The only way yo make worthy is that his only play after and before any cover is incredible optimal, which mean its going to be unbalanced.

Close combat is quite hard because too much movility on the character would make it op. But too few movility and its going yo be worthless. A big problem if the character is a flanker.

Where its easier to make a Melee character would be as front line or support, and in those a cover system may make more sense as hey arent mean to move a lot and force the oponente to ve in your face.

Even though SUCC PAPI died for our sins, I'd still like some sign of Hi-Rez that they haven't given up on him.

its not a dot for a reason, retard

What are the characters that cancel others?

Like Fernando is a little bitch for Torvald

it's already finished. early access is a marketing tactic being used as an excuse for low effort

it's shit. the genre is very simplistic. it only needs one or two good games throughout the next decade to be complete. garbage like this has no place

oh, don't forget who makes it. never forget their track record. this game will never have any proper integrity or effort put into it because it is a definitive cash cow

They just leave in "beta " forever as long as they are releasing maps and characters, only braindead people still believe a game will change drastically once its available to the public

Lex counters pretty much every character with invisibility with his wallhack.
Drogoz is (supposed) to get wrecked by Viktor and Andro (but people playing them often don't realize he's supposed to be their priority target).
Grohk can save someone from being hooked with the Totem legendary, you have to be pretty fast with your reflexes though.

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It's been that way for a long time for us yuropoors. Developers adjusting prices to the Euro are more of an exception rather than the rule.

This nig gets it. Even if I don't fully understand what he's saying.

There is a dot and it still works like that. Quake 3 does have similarly big hitboxes though.

Skye counters winning.
Makoa counters anything that lives on high mobility like Evie and generaly anything that's not a frontliner if his team actually follows up. Same for Grover if he's good at hitting his axes. Still much worse than makoa though.

how hilarious would it be if one of viktors legendary cards let him melee and crouch?
a quick melee strike is definitely something i expect to see in on a character at some point, i also expect to see someone with more than 1 weapon.

any hitscan with an effective range greater than sneezing is disaster for the french loli. even ying or grohk.

It essentially screencaps your screen and your keytaps,to detect if you are cheating, but it doesn't minimize with the game window. And on paladins it doesn't close with the game.
It keeps running after you close the game.
It was a subject of many leaks.

are you sure? it says the service is stopped

Oh, it happens alright, just no the way we want it.

I read about it a while ago, it could have been. changed by now

Did they release a second founders pack?
I hadn't played it since torvalds release,but now i don't have the new characters. Even though i bought the pack a while ago.

No, a lot of people seem to have that problem. Just talk to their support and they'll probably fix it.

I had enough gold.
Fuck
does that mean i wont get my coins back?

turned out pretty good for age of wonders 3

If you ask them you'll probably get your gold back. If you already own champs and buy the founders after you get all the gold you spent on champions refunded.

So, I decided to use a dot crosshair for aiming as "far" as I could from the enemies while still hitting them, will upload more later.

Of course it still works like that. They should make the hitbox around the head actual hitboxes and not extend the normal hitbox around the head. Basically more like pics related.
I believe Paladins needs bigger hitboxes or you'd have 30 second androxus 1v1s and the second someone gets low they could just run off. Even with the huge hitboxes there's still alot of mechanical skill involved so it's fine in my book.

if you do that on a person who has been drogoz goo'd first, you do over 2,600 damage per shot on direct hit with his one legendary card
that can one tap most squishies in the game, and the ones that do survive land a shot near them to finish them off

have you ever watched a sha lin replay, shooting 2 feet to the left and still hitting people, the hitboxes are too big

That's not the character hitbox, it's the projectile itself I'm pretty sure.

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wew, that's Halo2 tier.

is anyone here actually good at the game? im 3k elo on guru and all i get matched with are esporters who stack with their friends

the mm goes batshit broke after 2.5k and matches you in the 2.5k-4.5k range

id say 2k-2.49k elo is when i had most fun in this game, atm im cycling between seeing same 20 names in every one of my games and it all comes down to who had the most meta champs picked

ie i completely destroyed some esport fag while he was on kinessa then he stacked tanks and heals in his premade next game and they double capped us before anyone could even get into item their build past first tier

more bullshit no skill shit like torvald with 65% global wr is untouched simply because hes countered too heavy in esports
..when the game starts balancing around esport it just turns to no fun allowed metapickfest

and the worst part is even at 3k and up elo people STILL fucking pick a full dmg/flank comp and we get raped in fucking minutes

this game was way more fun before OW release and the gutting of maps into two mirror sections

the fact you cant change champs mid match is also a little fucktarded and would solve pretty much all the butthurt in champ select, id like to see it experimented in test maps

I'm 2.7-2.8 elo but I don't consider myself great, I just try to play my characters correctly and see what could screw up the enemy team to compensate for my terrible aim.
Also, I hear that you get into a different matchmaking pool after your account hits lvl30, mine did last week and it's true that I've been seeing more diamond and plat borders since then.
I don't think balancing around esportshit is a good idea but balancing around drooling retards who can't buy anything but Deft Hands isn't either.

What hell is this essence shit?
When the fuck did they add so many new heroes?
Why did the game just throw dozen or so achievements, skins and loot chests after opening the game for the first time in three months?
Have they actually added new maps beside forest, egyptian ruin and ice level?
And why does this sassy babe make my penis tingle?

The essence is a bullshit currency that you get from opening chests (2500K gold) and getting cards or legendries that you already own. It is shit mobile tier and the worst addition ever.

Essence is basically stuff you use to buy more cards.

essence is merchant magic you get for dupes in chests that was probably designed to encourage people to get attached to one account. also probably due to some good goys complaining about having too much gold, as the only way to get it is duplicates in chests, which you can now buy with gold, which i think is not given away as freely as it was before anyways. this also encourages buying them with gems, actually thats the real reason isnt it?
it makes it harder to create throwaway accounts that i can jump off of when matchmaking gives me a game i cant carry the game harder to get in to. its absolutely dreadful and while i still like the game it makes me hesitant to recommend it.

Lo-Rez are fucking retards because they don't seem to realize how bad it is for new players. Getting enough essence to buy the useful legendary of a character can take weeks, not to mention buying a good loadout.
This will guarentee that very few people will get into the game. With the balance problems, regulars will slowly drift away and the game will go the same way than T:A.

Lmao, all this over a fucking leaderboard you can easily get to the top with the right win\loss ratio? Am i missing something here? I think theres gotta be money involved in this shit

I just played a match and the first thing i was greeted to was some faggot blasting from the speakers talking about some "hotty", selfies and how he went to the mall and whatever, nothing related to the game itself at all.
Of course i muted him as i don't care about normalfag shit only to have him type "omg why aren't you listening to me, noob faggot".

it gets worse

I'm 3.2k and constantly playing against Bird, Laizy, Mutustiina, Creativs, 3 man Flashpoint stacks etc.
I only have 140 hours played, so I don't really mind getting destroyed by people with thousands of hours.
Changing champs mid round would be stupid as fuck.

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Competitive is straight up garbage. No one plays it so the queues are always forced 12 minute queues. All the good players prety much only play casual.
Casual is the real competitive.
Also they fixed getting master if you go 6/0. I'm 7/0 with my BK and I only got to 3.7k rating. Fuck ranked.

Fucking wew. I might start throwing some games then. I'm already having a hard time keeping up with all the Andros, Drogoz, Viktors and Burger King kids who have way better aim than I am right now, I'm only climbing up ELO because I'm playing Mal and Amigo.

What's your ELO?

2.8k

OB 51 seems FUBAR. Terrible lag, Reversal appears broken again and they removed gold rewards from mastery leveling. While the gold you got from leveling really wasn't that much, it helped me to get champs quite a bit faster on my smurf.

If you don't want to play against pros and other godly players that's pretty dangerous already. Then again, I consider myself to be pretty mediocre and I can somewhat keep up with the pros (sometimes).

There's also a bug where the enchanted key can still give a duplicate of the base legendary of a character because the game doesn't think you "own" it. Funnily enough, the bug was known as well as the Ruckus dash while ulting, however only of those bugs were fixed for release. What a coincidence :^).

I'm legitimately considering just playing Pip and trying to have fun instead of winning.

What? My elo is like 4,5 k and most everyone is pretty mediocre

I really hope they'll stop releasing new content once they're at the 30 champ mark and work on fixing bugs/performance. Running a GTX 970 and an i5-3570k and no matter what settings I can't keep stable 144 fps. Maxing the game or setting it to lowest barely makes a difference for me. Sadly this'll probably never happen

Thats probably because we're not talking about ingame ranked MMR but paladins.guru casual elo.

Im talking about the rank that shows on your profile, in game, mine is 4478

Yeah we were talking about the elo you get on the Paladins Guru website

That rank really doesn't matter at all. Only terrible players play ranked pretty much. I'm 4.7k or something only because I tried to get master BK, but fuck I'm not waiting 12 minutes per game. I played 4 hour and got like 10 games. Casual ELO is way more meaningful than ingame MMR.

My experience is the opposite, on casual everyone is like lvl 2 and they suck hard, its always an easy win

Well that depends on your ELO. I'm playing at least one pro pretty much every round I play. It's really draining and not that fun tbh

What other anticheat programs are there that key log and screen cap you? I need to start keeping a list of shit to watch out for. Punkbuster is one I know.

It's kinda the same for me but I'm starting to get bored of the game too, I've been playing for roughly the same time I played Dirty Bomb before dropping it (SD started going full retard around that time so it was perfect).
The new character isn't very fun to play unless you're going full on meme build and the enemies are kinda clueless, not to mention the last character release I enjoyed was Mal'Damba.

Maybe it's time to play some other vidya.

Luckily I only have 140 hours on guru and 60% of that was from cbt1 and 6 month ago when I last played. I can understand getting bored If you only play paladongs. How playtime do you have?
I played a bunch of DB too. Could be a great game, but no new contetnt or characters ever. Like 10 Execution maps since the last time I played.

Just checked, I have 80hrs in Paladongs and 165hrs in Dirty Bomb, way more than what I remembered. I stopped playing before Thunder got re-released so maybe I should reinstall it to see how it's like now but I'm worried the only people left are the veterans and assorted autists.
I don't only play Paladongers, thankfully, I always have at least two games I rotate when one starts to bore me but I like class based multiplayer FPS and I didn't have much fun ever since release-scout update TF2, maybe I should give up on the genre before Team Fortress 3

Steam says I have ~200 on both. Theres a lot of queueing and leaving the game running in the background in paladongs. There'll never be a good class based shooter ever again, they'll all be turbo casualized like Overwatch and even then they'll probably die unless they're f2p. I think paladins is the best we're going to get ;_;. I really got into this genre because of MNC. MNC was really fun, too bad about SMNC.

It's okay matey MNC and SMNC live on with Battleborn :^)

This is cute, what movie is it?

There's Gang Bang Garrison 2

How dare you insult Randy Pitchfork's masterpiece, we don't deserve Battleborn.

mal'dumba is the most interesting character to play as right now, he's got decent attack, good escapes, good reach and is quite possibly the best healer

Nah, Seris is pretty much better in every way. She's the best by a decent amount.

I think I will not be playing much until they fix the hitboxes.

EasyAntiCheat, Punkbuster and BattlEye are the only ones I've heard of that do that. Out of those, I think BattlEye might be the most dubious and intrusive, although it might still be Punkbuster because it runs 100% of the time no matter what you're doing and you can't uninstall it without hunting down all its files and deleting registry entries.

I used to main Mal'Damba a bit when I played (mostly picked him because he sounded like a vortegaunt to begin with).
His stun on "reload" (throws a snake) was crazy and you could chain it infinitely if you bought the item to increase reload speed. They've probably patched that out since. He was also handy on the point with his gourd, and had a decent escape option too.

oh is that what it is? i knew i wasnt getting as much gold.
usually by the time i hit 5 im about ready to buy someone, i wanted to make a ruckus account because hes been changed a bit over the last half year.

VAC too.
Most anti cheat systems really, good practices is a good anti cheat but with the complete death of any sort of talent in the games industry that's non-existent so what's left is having a separate program scanning the entire system all the time.

I think I'm done playing Paladins. I played 8 roudns today and won 2, It's just really unfun. I only played badly in 1 of the matches, but matchmaking just fucking me over extremly hard isn't fun at all. All of the matches were either me playing against fucking Bellanoche and his premade buddy just destroying my entire team, or having 1300 elo viktors on my team for whatever reason. It really becomes unfun when you get to higher elos and the matches are either matches where you havve to cary your retarded teammates or matches where the enemies are fucking gods and you can't do anything no matter how hard you try.

do like me, and make smurfs to absolutely shit all over third world children

Okay, so reading up on BattlEye, there are some accusations that it retrieves random files from your pc which seem unsubstantiated, but one admission by the devs that is capable of remotely executing code on your PC, which is a definite NOPE.

Punkbuster, my initial complaint was that every time it ran, it also set itself to run at startup if you had disabled it, then reading the EULA it says they may screencap you and scan your hard drive contents whenever it's running, which is ALWAYS.

What's wrong with VAC? It's faced some scrutiny before and as far as I remember it only scans the ram for suspicious executable and doesn't upload anything.

matchmaking in in every game sucks.
if you win its going to ask you to carry harder and harder. the only way around that is to make a new account, thankfully its free to play, but its more difficult to earn characters now, so that throws a wrench in that evil plan

Smurfing and absolutely destroying shitters really isn't fun though. I'm level 14 on a smurf and already have 2.6k elo with 100% winrate.

So the game constantly asks you to git gud. How's that a bad thing?

If you are consistently winning, that means you're playing against people that aren't as good as you. It'd make perfect sense to then pair you up with better players until a sweet spot is found where you're playing against people of equal skill level (at which point you can't realistically expect to win always, of course)
Why is this bad?

Sure, that sounds awesome in theory, but in practice when you're top 0.05% and you then get matched with a 4 man premade of bottom 60% and the entire enemy team is top 3% it really isn't that awesome. Losing these matches doesn't have anything to do with gitting gud, but just matchmaking fucking your ass. You're already better than the enemies, but you have to also carry a retarded 4 man premade, because 4/5 man parties elo gets inflated to a ridiculous degree because they're premade.
And a ton of games are the exact opposite, where your entire team is 3k+ solos vs a full 1.5k premade. It just gets really infuriating especially because these low level faggots never pick support/frontline and I always have to fill in and can't really carry as either.

That's more of a fault with the matchmaking not being very well designed in the first place, especially for outliers, and keep in mind that there's never any perfect solution for outliers but that's not really an excuse.

I was gonna say that a lot of people who complain about their team being the reason they consistently lose are sore losers and probably not as good as they think they are (and this is all true) but then I remenbered why I stopped playing Paladins in the first place.
There's really not that many players, especially in Europe, and I'd often cycle the same pre-made motherfuckers that had to be put against me because it would be more "fair" than sticking me on their team as well against the rest of the shitters.

The game really needs more players or a better matchmaking for premades. Both Overwatch and HotS at least try to keep teams more balanced by sticking premades against other premades.

Pic related is a great example of where the matchmaking just goes full retard. I was Drogoz and the enemies never had a chance to win as long as I played some sort of damage character, but had I played FL/support I'd have probably lost. Just to prove that I'm not just salty and that I hopefully don't lose all of these games because I'm an awful player. I'm not really implying that I'm good, just that I'm not completely terrible
The Andro in the second pick played us with teams like that 3 times in a row and lost every single one of them. Matchmaking in higher ELO is pretty fucked.
I'd rather wait 2 minutes longer and not get terrible matches like these.

fug forgot the pics

annihilating babbys gets old fast, but it helps to have a few accounts on hand to "jump ship" if its a really bad game. also, back when they actually gave you gold it was a decent way to get quicker access to the roster and cards

i dont mind pushing myself to my limits, losing intense games or fighting a losing battle. but this isnt just an issue of gitting gud. eventually all it can do to make you lose is give you worse and worse teammates until youd prefer bots