Let's compare Nocturne to what most people say is the best RPG ever made: Deus Ex.
Nocturne requires you to fight very single damn thing including the shitty bosses. Deus Ex doesn't requires any violence, allowing you to play the game at your own pace.
Deus Ex gives you freedom of choice in every regard, ranging from story choices to how you navigate the levels. Nocturne gives you the former, but not the latter since you have to follow a predetermined path.
Expanding on this, Deus Ex also has multiple solutions to every problem, meaning that no two playthroughs are the same. Nocturne may allow for more freedom than most JRPGs (i.e talking to demons), but it still has the potential to be as linear as it's contemporaries.
Let's look at obtaining the pass from the collector in the sewers just before the Matador fight for example. In order to obtain the pass you need so the guard at the gate will let you through, you need to get it from the collector. He'll give you it if you help him find a 1 Yen bill. Obtaining this bill requires you to break into the back room of a bar and steal it.
The problem with this is that this is the only method to get past the gate. I'm the fucking Demi-Fiend, so why can't I just beat the shit out of the gate guard or collector so I can get what I want? Why can't I buy the one yen bill from the bar owner for a reasonable price? Why can't I find a fake bill to give the collector?
Deus Ex, and most other RPGs, would let you do these things because an RPG is about player expression. Nocturne's single approach however, is just this: linear, contrived bullshit.
Luis Barnes
Thats a shit comparison
Charles James
why are tits in old movies and porn so much different than modern tits
Ian Gomez
Lets compare apples to oranges, they're both fruit right so its fair.
Wyatt Watson
Because they had less pixels back in the day
Nathan Mitchell
Let's compare Monster Hunter to what most people say is the best RPG ever made: Deus Ex. Monster Hunter requires you to fight very single damn thing including the shitty bosses. Deus Ex doesn't requires any violence, allowing you to play the game at your own pace. Deus Ex gives you freedom of choice in every regard, ranging from story choices to how you navigate the levels. Monster Hunter gives you the former, but not the latter since you have to follow a predetermined path. Expanding on this, Deus Ex also has multiple solutions to every problem, meaning that no two playthroughs are the same. Monster Hunter may allow for more freedom than most JRPGs (i.e talking to palicoes), but it still has the potential to be as linear as it's contemporaries. Let's look at obtaining the pass from the collector in the plains just before the Rathalos fight for example. In order to obtain the pass you need so the guard at the gate will let you through, you need to get it from the collector. He'll give you it if you help him find a Hermitaur Shell. Obtaining this requires you to break into the back room of a bar and steal it. The problem with this is that this is the only method to get past the gate. I'm the fucking Monster Hunter, so why can't I just beat the shit out of the gate guard or collector so I can get what I want? Why can't I buy it for a reasonable price? Why can't I find a fake shell to give the collector? Deus Ex, and most other RPGs, would let you do these things because an RPG is about player expression. Monster Hunter's single approach however, is just this: linear, contrived bull
Cooper Rogers
is this bait/copypasta.
Andrew Richardson
That's because you have no idea of the difference between JRPGs and WRPGs stemming from old differences in even tabletop and choose-your-own-adventure mediums. And this is stale copypasta.
WRPGs were always player-driven and focused on choice and creativity; they are stories by or about you or your generated avatar(s). JRPGs were always focused on linear, narrative experiences punctuated by art, puzzle, and obstacle; they are directed tales more like a poetic epic or cinematic format.
Aiden Barnes
Both are ROLE PLAYING GAMES so it's fair game
Try reading next time
Leo James
You don't have to fight every thing, the game is completely beatable with only the forced fights.
Carson Gutierrez
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Adam Cruz
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Elijah Collins
You're a funny guy, OP.
Logan Ortiz
Nigger.
Nice dubs tho.
Juan Bailey
Why you compare an rpg with a poor quality shooter?
Gavin Moore
One is a JRPG and the other is a WRPG. Also by this Touhou and Call of Duty are the same because they are shooting game
wew.
Xavier Howard
Oh boy he's at it again
Jeremiah Sanchez
No they are not, it still takes you out of a desired role just to fight a shit boss
Go fuck off to cuckchan then you ADHD ridden faggot
Landon Hernandez
this logic*
Jackson White
Lets compare Quake to Diddy Kong Racing while we're at it you fucking retard.
Jose Gray
If you don't want to fight, tell me how Demi-Fiend would make it out of the Hospital, or even the tutorial fights. You have a choice of not wanting to attack, then you die and that's it, you weren't worthy of being Lucifer's general, there's your pacifist run.
Isaac Gomez
Pretty much, user. Back in the day you played a JRPG to step into the role of the hero of that story, and to experience the plot and world laid out for you. Even if you were given the ability to generate a character in most eastern RPGs of the period, you would just end up some shonen mute.
James Ortiz
Both Touhou and COD are annually released and are both shit,, both are cancer and need to be killed
Nice backpedaling nigger
Gabriel Barnes
Yeah same I'm near the end and think the game is OK at BEST
Dominic Nelson
Same reason people like any JRPG. Story is interesting and thought provoking.
Juan Gutierrez
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Lucas Scott
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Dominic Kelly
Ahhh i see the problem here, you are unable to read the letters W and J.
Sebastian Clark
jrpgs are garb
Connor Gonzalez
Why are you comparing a WRPG to a JRPG?
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Jack Stewart
Shit thread but if anyone can be bothered to I'd like to hear a justification of why Nocturne is considered so good, I've been playing it recently and while it seems ok I'm not seeing why it gets so much praise heaped on it.
Dominic Brooks
Western RPGS are shit.
Jacob Morris
laugh
out
loud
Easton Phillips
Pic related
Also, to piggy back on OP's shit thread, would Nocturne be a good SMT to start with?
I tried Persona 2 and it was okay but a too tad slow.
Brandon Diaz
Funny how weebs can't defend their garbage and need to yell bait
Jaxson Miller
Alo what does the fact that they are both released annually have to do with that, if we follow your logic, 2hu and cowadooty should be classified as the same genre of gamr?
Justin Russell
Nocturne is good enough to start with yes.
Chase Sullivan
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Wyatt Hill
Did I fucking yell bait? I like both genres. Go shitpost somehwere else.
James Parker
ive never even played nocturne, how am i defending it
Gavin Scott
Hold up, are you the nigger from the movie game thread? Was one thread of getting your shit pushed in not enough?
Sebastian Rogers
all i know is deuce ex is shit, scsf told me so
Easton Williams
Apples
Oranges
Nocturne is the only proper SMT game most people in the west have ever played. Once you play SMT 1 or 2, or even something like Wizardry or Might and Magic, it seems kind of shallow in comparison.
Oliver Lee
Please defend this Mary Sue whore turning edgy out of nowhere with SPESHULL Angels who are actually Darwinist
Then get the fuck out white knight
What the fuck are you on about?
Ryder Scott
holy shit, it is you what's the matter, did path of neo btfo you so badly you had to latch onto another game?
Nicholas Nelson
Path of Neo was a pretty mediocre game
Owen Baker
none of my posts said anything about Nocturne tho (at least not direclty), I'm saying that you're comparing two games that play DIFFERENTLY. Also How is he a white knight if he said he ISN'T defending it. I think you have reading comprehension issues user. that, or a massive case of autism
Angel Lopez
Are you stupid? Ever single "reason" is Lawful. Board was tilted the whole time. Only Chaos endings are the ones where you reject reasons and fail or True Demon.
Tyler Price
that's fine, at least you didn't make a whole thread about it and call people names when they gave you arguments that you dismissed as simply shit taste I wish I had archived the thread
Joshua James
report him and then kill yourself shitface
Gavin Roberts
ur mum is flat out disgusting
Chase Cruz
Lost me there, OP. Which they're both RPGs, they are both vastly different in presentation and gameplay. Go be a retard somewhere else.
Hudson Russell
Why do I keep missing all of the interesting threads, first the guy who wanted to fuck the Legos and now this one.
Bentley Morgan
wait how do you fuck a lego, like building a woman out of legos and then trying to fuck it? or what
Isaiah Taylor
same way you fuck ohio and floor tiles
Aiden Garcia
Why do you care so much
Liam Roberts
How does that work Also does somebody have a link/archive of the movie game thread? I want to see it.
Logan James
One of those fucked a hole in the ground and another one just jacked off to them. There's a difference between jack off bait and fucking
Cooper Cruz
From what I garner from after the fact, it was how he wanted to fuck the Lego characters from Traveller's Tales games. Would have been nice to witness that shit in person like I did for backpack cuck user.
Henry Price
I assume he just creates a lego sleeve and fucks it
Benjamin Morris
The lego onahole?
Chase Wilson
wew
sounds painful.
Hunter Perez
But isn't the only orifice the feethole/back of legs/top of head? I mean I guess you could bisect them and fuck the spine cavity.
Kevin Myers
I know some people get off by sticking lego people up their asses and then going about their business like they don't have lego people shoved up their asses.
Lincoln Taylor
okay but that's being fucked by a lego not fucking a lego. Semantics are important for the legoistics
Jack Butler
I think it was something about how OP had a LEGO Harry Potter set when he was younger, and what he did was build a castle with LEGO Hermione on it, who he thought was hot, and pretended to be some kind of monster attacking the castle and cumming on Hermione. I really prefer to keep that thread out of my mind, i don't even know why
Gabriel Ward
Are these people you?
Jack Powell
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Anthony Allen
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Adam Walker
No. I'm worse.
Camden Stewart
wait do you use 3 legos or something?
Isaac Walker
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Ethan Davis
He's into hand holding. Fucking profligate.
Levi Jenkins
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Isaiah Butler
Well you see, basically I want to be the lego.
Joseph Rivera
Everyone wants to be in people's butt's user, stop feeling guilty about it. Are you Catholic or something? Are we talking full envelopment fetish?
Blake Scott
So you want to be the ohio?
Jack Hernandez
>Are we talking full envelopment fetish? Something like that.
Carter Evans
I'd be more interested if it was niche part of a TF fetish where you literally become a lego minifigure.
Juan Peterson
Do you find the thought of veing foreverally tied up and delitized erotic?
Dominic Howard
I have never had such a fantasy, but I know for a fact I could get off to that with very little effort.