Dragon age

you're telling me I would have had sex with the demon? well fuck I messed up then, I killed her.

at least i saved the kid.

You can sell the kids soul to fuck the daemon

But remember user, never make deals with the ruinous powers.

Why, will that ruin you?

It'll ruin your asshole at least

I would make the spell casting system go back to Baldur's Gate. The MMO system of spending skill points and cooldowns was easily the worst part about being a mage.

And i missed that and became a blood mage. Never recognized as one by anyone in the game. Well, at least spells were actually good.

Neverwinter Nights 2 is basically D&D DAO.

If you make a deal with the desire demon in the Fade, you have the option to fug her, but only if you have high intimidation. She won't kill you afterwards and she will stop possessing Connor for good, because you are that much of a badass.

I don't think that Dragon Age needed a sequel. It wouldn't work due to the consequences of your actions in the first game. I would obviously have set the sequel during the next blight, but the crusade on orzammar, qunari invasion, different ferelden rulers and the demon child would significantly alter the universe, so there is no way to do it well.
DAO works best as a standalone game. It has a satisfying ending, nice worldbuiling and a great cast of characters. The only way to make a sequel would be to shit all over the original.

Seems to me you get fucked either way, so why not go out with a smile?

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Nope

Yes

Or to do what DA 2 tried to do and set in another corner of the world during/immediately after the events of the first game.

I've never played Dragon Age. Am I to understand that a player character can't have a loving, intimate moment with that beautiful lady?

yes you can but it's just fade lol to black

not that particular demon but you can apparently fuck one inside the fade if anons in this thread are right.

DA2 and DAI plots are alright in paper, they just were executed horribly in every single way. So I guess I'd just remake them completely

Something that I really want in a sequel is my fucking mc from origins goddamit, playable or as npc. When I played the witch hunt I thought the franchise would be based on you chasing morrigan and the demigod child wiht your mc, not whatever gay ass shit they do in the rest of the games

Also daily reminder to all anti blood magic fags, your mc participates on a blood magic ritual at the start of the game

Yes they are

mfw I genuinely liked DA2 up until the last stretch.

My biggest problem with DA2 was the encounter design. DAO almost never has enemies teleport in, and when it does they're either rogues sneaking in or magic users that could reasonably teleport. DA2 does it all the fucking time. It makes it completely pointless to try to arrange your party in a way that controls the flow of enemies, because they spawn from nowhere right next to you. The story actually could have worked, except for a few infuriating choices that I'm just not allowed to make because it would fuck with the intended outcome (why can't I turn Anders in to the Templars or kill him at any of the points where he does something highly questionable?)

This, dear god this. Also the shit ambiguous ending, the cop out with the red crystal and the byzantine requirements for the obvious choice of you being the next lord mayor.

Even if they'd let me try and had him escape, it would have gone a long way toward making me hate the game less. You're allowed to tell him to fuck off, but not to try to actually do anything about him, even though it's obvious he's dangerous.

Screw that. I want to ((force attack)) his ass, resurrect him and then kill him all over again until he gibblets. Give him the full Dynaheir treatment basically.

SJW don't play games.
Also Bioware was way more "liberal" back then than it is now.
Now it's hamfisted LGBTBBQ ID forms by people that never had a meaningful human connection in their lives (and therefore can't write for shit) when back then it was 4-some and harem endings (and way more subtle and natural gay romance)…

It would've been as simple as

You dont want so many choices and possibilities user :^)

Shit, I actually done that. My other favorite problematic moment in that game,

Good times.

You could be a real dick in DA: O. You could be friends with Alistair all game and then right at the end betray him for Loghain and even execute him. You could genocide the elves. Sacrifice children. The game was pretty dark.

The series is irreparably ruined because they turned it from an infinity engine imitator into an ARPG dating simulator.

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Until gaming companies say "hmm well we've simplified all the good games down into casual trash for the last decade, maybe its time to make something complex for non retards", no good games will ever come out again

I'm well aware of that, I'm pretty sure I killed off my entire party at one point save for Morrigan, Sten and the Dog throughout one campaign.

Does have a point. All the choices you make in the game can fuck the entire world and the only escape would be a bioware style retcon.

Feels bad, man

I dunno, I'd sooner hope for a proper remake of Dragon Age: Origins. There was a lot of cut content that never made it to the game, the engine is shit, the rules and abilities could use a second pass, and itemization needs some reworking. Speaking of engines though, you can't even have multiple Z-levels for pathing in Dragon Age (and you need to pre-generate pathing maps, whoever developed this shit had no clue how to do his job). Whatever the fuck EA does in DA4, assuming they make a DA4, I hope they just make it moddable so someone can remake DAO in a less shit engine, although if the tactical camera sucks again it's gonna blow.

The expansion is pretty dumb too.

Not a fan of the WoW design and cooldown reliance mechanics myself.

No worries, fucking her is the most worthless thing you can do anyway. You're basically passing on rewards if you choose sex.

That's Bioware C&C for you. "Actually implementing consequences is impossible I swear." No, you can do it. It'd just take some more work, but the game would be so much better for it. If Bioware spent less time sticking worthless padding in their games and more time developing branching content instead they would be a much better developer overall.

Technically not, but there is another desire demon the warden can fuck, and all desire demons look the same anyway.

Alright. You've piqued my interest. Feel free to put the plot on (virtual) paper. Last I checked DA2 has no plot, just a bunch of shit that happens which is somehow your problem to solve. And DAI's plot is Corypheus going full retard and never regrouping and bolstering his forces, instead wearing himself thin by assailing the inquisitor over and over until he's dead. You seem to have a different perspective on the issue, so I'm curious what your thoughts are.

A Basilisk is a self-propelled gun not a tank. Goddamn I hate people.

you faggots are going to make me play the damn game.

Since EA has put ME on hold (and Montreal downsized and reduced to a support studio for teams of real development men (i.e. not cosplayers)) after the hilarious Andromeda, perhaps DA might get another pass, even though they didn't even bother to report sales numbers for DA:I because it did 'that bad'.

Can you not?

WTF r u on about mate?
I said since ME went to shit and EA has put the series on hold they might go back and do another DA because it's the other big Bioware franchise they have in-house. At no point did I say it was a good fucking idea.

DAO was shit

The one thing that set the first game apart, and they barely used it.

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Plot wise I have no idea. Gameplay wise I think I enjoyed Aarklash Legacy much more than Origin, because even though you could have up to 10 or 12 skills in Origin, Aarklash had four but they were all fun and they all played together into making each character feel truly unique.

You would miss Hepler's dialogue, we wouldn't want that to happen would we?

Sounds like a cuck story. What did I expect anyways.

If you mean two mentally ill fags will naturally be attracted to each other, then probably it's natural, yes.

I think he meant more natural as in more in accordance to natural flow of the story, meaning that it isn't just hamfisted into it just because the idiot writers thought that they have a social responsibility to give representation to different sub-groups.

Faggotry almost NEVER fits in with the lore/story/setting though. In a medieval land where a simple phrase can summon a lust demon to murderrape your entire village, the people aren't exactly going to be all "lol, like as long as it makes you happy man. Do whatever you want, these desires are natural"

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It appears that post flustered you, user.
Do you partake of the sausage, by any chance?

There's nothing wrong about feeling a little bit flustered about shitposting and cynicism in current year, you catholic dog.

I recently replayed this and couldn't even bring myself to talk to that fag, his voice and 'problem' were such mewling bullshit that I avoided him like the plague, cucking him would have been preferable.

i really wish they'd just leave the kids alone, you can be a degenerate in the privacy of your own home but man the kids didn't do anything to deserve that

I don't want romance as an option in games, never really have (reap is fine tho) it's ham-fisted and alien unless it's something already established within the world/story, NPCs and role-played characters who're in an existing relationship are fine but making a new one with a team-mate etc feels like such sad, ronrey, loser bait that I've kept all but one of my Bioshit characters as loners, the exception being a renegade Shep who fucked Liara and Jack.

I always thought it was tacked on bullshit from the start but by Cisquisition you can barely fucking move your thumb for fear of spewing your cringe filled spaghetti all over every other person. It's tacky as fuck and reeks of that twisted tumblr logic of pushing sexuality into everything while being the most grossly disgusting pigs out there.

Also I really wished the whole darkspawn DLC was a whole game and not just the last mission with different characters. Imagine a huge RPG playing as the darkspawn pillaging and leading a group of monsters to destroy humanity. maybe im just an edgelord but I think it could be cool. You can even have groups of graywardens try and wipe you out constantly or defending the brood mother against dwarven armies, the possibilities are endless!

I'm totally fine with romance as an option in RPGs; you should be able to romance ANYONE, even qtp2t NPC farmgirl #482. I'm not fine with faggot/dyke/tranny romance as an option in any game, and it should never be there.

Other problems include that in a game with a giant mage-hunting bent you can be an illegal mage and no one gives you any shit over it. You can even be a blood mage with zero fucking consequences. And of course the entire cast and story and levels and encounter design and graphics and camera and everything being fucking retarded. It's amazing how low effort DA2 is.

Being single-player only probably didn't help the mod community any. Also meant no co-op.

I'm kinda annoyed you couldn't just dig it up right after you got recruited. You had to go all the way back to the alienage to get your money. Admittedly you could do that right after Ostagar (although you will be horribly underleveled for any Denerim quests at the time), but it was kinda disappointing you couldn't just take your loot with you.

MC doesn't get cucked. But the relationship from the origin gets aborted no matter what happens, because Bioware is bad at long-term consequences. If you play a female, the fiancé will die trying to rescue her. If you play a male, you can rescue her and you get to be the hero, but she'll still fuck off because you're a Gray Warden now so she just moves back, never to be heard of again. City Elf Origin is the only part of DAO where your gender influences things.

Quit being an edgelord you colossal faggot. The only problem with gay romances is when virtue-signalling faggots have to be completely in your face about the faggot being a fag and have his entire personality, identity, behavior, and dialogues be defined by what a colossal faggot he is. At that stage it's completely fucking obnoxious and bad writing. But crying that any game with a fag in it has to be a bad game is just dumb.

afaik this was done due to just how rushed the game was.

Bare in mind that the game wasn't meant to be a sequel to DAO. It was going to be a console focused spinoff that took place in a city as opposed to a large country like DA2. It was turned into a sequel by EA but they weren't given more staff/time to actually flesh it out into one.

You can see resemblances of it's original concept being how you play as a character with a set name/backstory/family which was totally different to DAO and every Bioware game before it.

Since it was so rushed they didn't have time to create every encounter manually like they did in DAO so they just made it so that enemies spawn in.

Actually DAO was very mod friendly. There was even a big machinima created with the DAO toolset that was made to promote Dragon Age Awakening.

It's moreso that Neverwinter Nights 1 was literally designed to be absurdly easy to mod (it's why it was taught in colleges for game design course diploma mills). Dragon Age Origins meanwhile ran on a different engine and while it was designed to support total conversion mods, most people just made cosmetic mods for the game and very few total conversion mods were made. Of the ones that were made they were pretty amateur and unfinished.

Meant to write DAO. Sorry

A mage needs to tear the veil for that to be possible, and once that happens almost any desire can attract a demon, not just perverted ones. There's one desire demon pretending to be a little girl's cat, the one in the OP is pretending to be a Templar's loving wife, etc. People are rightly suspicious of mages but nobody gives much of a shit about fags (and the major religion has no reason to oppose it–superficially it might look like Christianity but the reality is it's a complete inversion of most aspects of Christianity).

Why did they even make DA2?
Origins and awakenings had fine endings. They just ruined their own creation. Why?

This is entirely based on medieval Christian societies. And is a pretty rigid bias to have.

Homosexuality has been tolerated and was public in other societies at the time and well before it. Like it was practiced in ancient Greece along with pedophilia.

Money?

DAO was a pretty big hit and EA wanted something out fast. It's why they turned DA2 from a spinoff game into a sequel and released it a year later.

It's EA they don't give a shit

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This was great however they only did the first dungeon and that was it.

History lesson time, you stupid piece of shit.

A lot of the idea of Greek and Roman “acceptance” of homosexuality has been blown out of proportion by A. early Christians who wanted to make the Greeks look degenerate by their standards, and B. 20th century theorists who see two naked figures on a pot and describe it as eroticism even if they are fighting. The pots which did represent actual gay sex–censored by intercrucial depictions–are few. And does the existence of homosexual pornography tell us the society as a whole generally thought homosexuality was natural and good? Of course not. Then there’s the whole term pederasty and what we translate as “lover.” If pederasty was about sex, then why was admiring boys in a sexual way frowned upon? We know there were prohibitions of this. It seems that what we translate as “lover” should more likely be translated as “teacher.” There’s also no real evidence that Alexander the Great was gay. All we have is his extremely close friendship with Hephaestion and one event where he kissed a eunuch, whom the crowd shouted for him to kiss. And there’s also another account of people lining up to be kissed by Alexander, so this may have been a tribute thing.
Here is the account: Plutarch’s Life of Alexander 67.4
“We are told, too, that he was once viewing some contests in singing and dancing, being well heated with wine, and that his favorite, Bagoas, won the prize for song and dance, and then, all in his festal array, passed through the theater and took his seat by Alexander’s side; at sight of which the Macedonians clapped their hands and loudly bade the king kiss the victor, until at last he threw his arms about him and kissed him tenderly.”
So, yeah, probably not a gay thing anymore than a European noble kissing the king’s finger or French and Italians kissing each other’s cheeks. We also know that Alexander’s parents feared for his sexuality early on. Among hundreds of quotes that could be presented, one of the most interesting comes from Athenaeus of Naucratis and his “The Deipnosophists” (X. 45). “And Hieronymus, in his “Letters”, says that Theophrastus says that Alexander was not open to ‘bodily pleasures’; and accordingly, when Olympian had given him Callixene, a Thessaian courtesan, for a mistress , who was a most beautiful woman, and all this was done with the concept of Philip, [for they were afraid that he would become effeminate], she was constantly obliged to ask him herself to do his duty by her.”
I “wonder” what the context of “effeminate” might be in a passage in which his parents, worried about his lack of desire, are hiring a female prostitute for him. Alexander would later go on to have recorded sexual relationships with women, yet the only proof of any with men is that he had a really really close friend, and that a crowd told him to kiss a eunuch once. That’s it. Time and again, that’s how Greek life is reinterpreted. Early Christians made the Greeks gay to shame the pagans and later intellectuals enthusiastically embraced this narrative by cherrypicking sources.

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Sodomy–the modern definition of anal sex rather than the Middle Ages’ of bestiality, et. al.–was punishable by death in most of the city-states of Greece. Pederasty was institutional in some cases (Sparta and Thebes), but penetrative sex was not. And in Athens, the openly homosexual could not own property, and, by extension, vote or serve in a public office.
In Rome, homosexuality was considered a vice. You were technically allowed to sodomize a male slave, but doing so would be looked at as a “decadent Greek practice.” Though the openly homosexual could own property, they could not hold office or military rank. Homosexual activity of any type with a fellow citizen meant that you would be cast out of social circles. Receiving sodomy was a crime punished by revocation of property, and, by extension, rights of citizenship. In some Providences, it was punished by death or exile.
Now let’s compare that to Middle Ages Europe. The punishment for sodomy? A fine, or a five year sentence if you were unable to pay the fine. Sodomy was not punished by death, though you could be cast out of the priesthood for it. They could not revoke property or noble status for the discovery of homosexual activity. This had to do with the philosophy of the time. Homosexuality and sodomy (homosexual or otherwise) was seen as the logical extension of uncontrolled lust–the desire for sex without reproductive function. By their philosophy, anyone had the potential to become a sodomite. As such, the punishments were lenient compared to Rome or Greece. Only certain groups within society–like certain nobles who under Roman law were literately above the common law–could do this without consequences.

You can mod the hell out of DAO but that doesn't remedy the engine being a piece of shit or the fact that you will need a 3rd-party lightmapper to not make your levels look like shit (the built-in lightmapper is ass) or the weird hand-holding the awful pathing map generator will need sometimes because DAO's pathfinding is designed by a retard who kludged his way to "success". I'm still annoyed at how z-level support became a casualty of the dogshit pathfinding, although if Inquisition is any indication they might've been too stupid to handle ceilings with their cameras too. You cannot make fucking stairs in DAO, you know? Engine can't handle the idea of an "upstairs" or a bridge that you can both walk over and under. Dogshit pathfinding will do that to you and your level design is the casualty of Nathan Sturtevant's work. I suppose he didn't realize how much he was fucking it up for the mod community. Anyway the first two issues are a major reason why people don't make custom levels in DAO. Everything you make will look like dogshit and require weird finagling to make it functional. So the amount of people willing to put in the effort are rather small.

The only decent DAO module I can think of is Thirst: nexusmods.com/dragonage/mods/3496/

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B-but that's the wrong side of history.

Compare the length of your post to the length of the shitpost you're replying to.

max cringe

See I don't get this mentality, it detracts from the story, always feels like a hatchet job even when the player kinda likes the non-existent gal involved. It's the kind of shit one (should) be embarrassed to have anyone else see because of the powerful ME SO RONREY vibes it propagates.

m8 get your categories straight, hot bitches lezzing up is a-okay, the rest can go hang.

You will be shot, and the people responsible for your rhetoric will be impaled.

EA has studios justify their existence and profitability by requiring them to release a product every year. This is why Awakening was released in 1 year and then DA2 came after. So EA got the shovelware they ordered and was very surprised when it ruined the brand so quick. Bioware's own forums were shitting on DA2's failings repeatedly. Eventually the Bioware Social Network moderators had the bright idea to create a separate forum for confirmed purchasers of DA2 to keep the negativity out. That forum also shat all over DA2. The RPG Codex's review of Dragon Age 2 was rather popular there, as I recall: rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=224

I believe after DA2 they decided to take things more slowly before they destroyed yet another brand and studio, but it's already too late.

doesn't have to be some ronrey shit or whatever, some people just want to roleplay as a playboy or a casanova. I for one like playing as a barbarian slamming monsters with my hammer and the slamming wenches with my cock And then ill slam some monster wenches with my cock as well

No they fucking aren't, why would anyone actually say this? There's a hint of something interesting in them at best but it's never really realized and the entire game tries it's best to ruin any potential it could have.

DA2 is about a refugee from the war trying his luck in some other city. This is a cool concept, an idea you can actually make a game about with a "rags-to-riches" theme and that's what the story tried to be, up to the expedition that supposely won you loads-a-money.
And afterwards, it's political bullshit where the MC is shoehorned all the damn time because apparently having money means you're important, where you can't make any decent important decision that actually affects the plot or changes history and everyone else trades half their brain for an extra chromosome.
The ending itself sums up entirely well the whole game: it's a retarded fight done for retarded reasons for the sake of having an "epic boss fight" with factions that were presented as neither being good or evil but ended up sounding equally retarded and ruining the concept of you just being a dude in the right place at the right time.

DAI is about the MC being conscripted as an Inquisitor to staph da demons!!1! because he has a plot device in his hand.
It's not even a good idea on paper from the get go and the only saving grace would be the whole Inquisitor deal.
Being an entity not bound by allegiance to any faction, essentially being it's own mini-faction, would allow a game to actually focus on politics, earning favour of other rulers, overstepping their bounds and performing raids on their ground to stop cultists and demons, investigate, accuse and execute people, be forced to make rushed or bad decisions to stem the invading tide, be placed in positions where your own companions might disagree, leave or rebel against your methods and choose between the most effective methods or the ones that spare the most people.

But of course, that would require a game all about giving the player many choices that all have consequences in the story and the world, something that Bioware (at least the one that made DA2) proved to be really, really fucking bad at. And what could have been one of the best sandbox inquisitor experiences ever turned out to be yet another railroaded cliched RPG full of chaff and timesinks so you wouldn't notice how bad your interaction with the world actually is.

Whatever that means.
Pooinloo detected.

Who gives a shit? It was four key presses to blow him the fuck out, and I'll blow out every single other faggot in the same way, too. Kill them all.

You will be prosecuted for your complicity in genocide and economic collapse.

The world's fucked! A Blight has came and the Grey Wardens failed. You can even make it the tutorial just to hammer in how truly fucked you are.

The world is now a Darkspawn infested hellscape, the few settlements where humans live are well hidden from the enemy and finding them is very hard since most fear betrayal from humans that prefere to serve the Darkspawn.

To top it off, there are Fade Rifts around the world, from which Spirits cross over and roam this world, though they never wander off from them since they need to return to the Fade every one in a while.
You can often find swamps where nothing lives because the Spirits kinda fuck up any animal or person that wanders nearby.

Mages are pretty fucking valuable as they happen to be the artillery that can defend these settlements from Darkspawn, since weapons and armor are rare now and risking your life is not a great deal either.
People still fear them being possessed (and it still happens) so Mages become distant leaders that rule settlements by fear, even if they would prefer to be loved by their people.
The Knights that used to hunt them are disbanded, their purpose made void by necessity, and they roam the land as mercenaries, but there are rumours there's a Brotherhood of Valiants that employs these Knights and Assassins to cull down Mages who abuse their powers.

The MC is some shmuck from a random town that is doing something stupid as usual, according to his back story. During his prologue, the game hints at possible alternatives you have to finish the game and then opens the world to you.
You can travel the world, visit every settlement, help them fight the local DarkSpawn and eventually secure the world. If you manage to gain leadership as well by any means, you can even become ruler of all known world when you win.

You can also read about the Grey Wardens and make it your mission to find their rituals, assembling their order again from scratch and even becoming one yourself.
This is entirely optional and you can miss it entirely if you don't actually go looking for it, but it does make it easier to defeat the Darkspawn.

Eventually, when you gather enough support and resources, you can have a fortress built somewhere in the map up to your choice. It's an upgradebale structure that gives you services and allows to coordinate whatever forces you end up recruiting, but needs to be defended from time to time unless you hide it with magic.

Settlements can be assisted and protected and you do need to do so or they can be entirely razed and lost. You can indeed reach a point where no settlement is left but your own citadel, at which point you can expect no reinforcements ever again, but you can still scour the world for ruins and knowledge.

Defeating the Archdemon isn't just about depleting his health bar, you'd have to divise a Plan. A plot engineered by you that can truly defeat him in combat, something that can be achieved in several different ways but requires looking around for information and then preparing things.

Plot A: The Demon Spawn from Morrigan can permanently kill the Archdemon. You can find this info on hidden crypts, after which you can being looking for the kid, now grown to a young man. You need to train him and keep him alive until the end, where he must be present in the final fight and if he dies before that, you'd have to try another Plot.

Plot B: A Grey Warden can sacrifice himself to kill the Archdemon. You need to find all of their rituals, spread across several locations, the required materials to perform them and people willing to accept it (option to hide the consequences and deal with them later).
You can do it yourself if you're a noble soul.

Plot C: A powerfull Spirit can drag creatures into Rifts back to the fade. If you can find a Rift big enough and convince a Spirit to assist you, the fight against the Archdemon can involve dragging him to the Fade when he is weakened and killing him there, trapping him in the Fade forever. (Grim ending, he now haunts the nightmares of everyone)

I suppose what most irks is the cringey dialogue associated with it all, Witcher has it about right I guess.

Thanks for the history lesson, user. It's nice to see people that still care about documenting their arguments, it's the right kind of autism.

But that said, faggots are a small part of the population, caring about them in any shape or form up to executing them is retarded. It's literally not even worth the rope you'll hang them with and they solve themselves out anyway with AIDS.

Besides, "economic collapse" is really not something you can pin on gays, it's not because of them that you get less births every year since they don't reproduce regardless of how accepted they are (unless you're dumb enough to believe it's a choice or that they'll impregnate women they can't get hard from).
There's far more shit from far bigger groups that influences far more the economy than the gays that they are pretty much a smokescreen at this point.

And it's not even the point the other user is making, he's not even saying being gay is okay.
Obnoxious relationships are bad writing, period, even heterosexual ones.
We are talking about fiction here and the amount of babies a couple can produce in Ferelden will not change the economy of your world one bit.
Having a gay relationship in a fantasy universe matters just as much as having the Qunari in said world and if you care about Anders and his butt-fucking habits because of how toxic they are to the world, do write a lengthy post about how the Qunari are good for the steel industry and how everyone should support them so we can beat the Chinese in the markets.

Spending real time giving some virtual floosie sufficient trinkets for her whore affections is what it means. Imagine how much digital dick Liliana and Liara got between them the yo-yo knickered slatterns.

I just find player-made romances forced, they don't provide an emotional connection, if there's history then it's more fitting.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I dont know why it made me laugh but it did.

I'd fuck Morrigan

I already did, twice.

theres not enough porn where its the desire demon getting railed

shit reading comprehension tbh fam

'test'

bump.

I love me some DAII combat.