Antigame

is there such thing as an antigame?

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reality.

But games are part of reality.

You mean like a game so unfun, so disgustingly badly made that it has to be taken as a joke? Yeah, two just came out.

Kanoguti games.

This.

Yeah, but reality has many properties of a game - random encounters, RNG, a shitty economy driven by fags who want to arbitrarily inflate the price of goods, shitty political factions that want to slaughter naysayers for the good of their messiah, etc - but it is itself not a game. Far from it; you only get one life. If you die, it's game fucking over, and you don't know what death will be like. Maybe you get a second chance, but I doubt it. Best antigame I can think of.

When you do all the right things and get punished for it. Life.

I remember my friend showing me this back in 2009. You walk forward and do exactly what the text on screen says, which is to burn the rope supporting a chandelier above the boss. The entire thing takes less than a minute. You then have a credit sequence with a quirky Portal-inspired song which lasts over 2 minutes. I had no idea what my friend was talking about when he told me it won a bunch of awards for being an innovative indie game. That was when I had my first exposure to games which have no objective except to not really be a game.

"Walking simulators" or games where a message being conveyed is more important. The objective is to not be a game first. Try to imagine getting a zero sum when you combine Gone Homo with Duke Nukem 3D, or Doom.

This is shit even by Newgrounds standards. Indie game industry purge when?

Depends. What do you mean by that?
When people call something an "anti-joke" that's a misnomer. They don't usually mean the opposite of a joke, they mean something that subverts the expectations of a joke instead of outside expectations - a meta-joke. Are you looking for something like that?
You can argue about how walking simulators and certain other games are not "real games", but it doesn't seem productive. If something is not a "real game" it can still be a good experience, and if something is a "real game" it can still be horrible.

Wow I haven't heard of this abomination yet. This screams of being a try-hard art project.
Awards were a fucking mistake. Arbitrary medals based around some dipshit's subjective opinions should never be taken seriously, at all.

It also doesn't help that a lot of indie game critics are failed artists themselves. So they artificially prop up shit similar to what they would have made themselves instead of fairly rating actual good games.

Airport Simulator

A game where you must use your own wits to get around the fact the devs didnt include instructions and everything is vague

Well, yes. Virtual novels and walking simulators like Gone Homo.
Anything that goes out of its way to be a nongame.

stop forcing this meme, user.

Like years ago

Flash games are super dead

That is actually a Newgrounds flashgame. It got featured as top #1 of the week and top #3 of the month when it was released. About 1.2k positive reviews. Very few were actual joke reviews.

Well shit I guess I've been living under a rock.

Im pretty sure almost all of them were joke reviews

To be fair that was like 9 years ago.

Games are essentially interactive machines/constructs that react to input you send.
Your action -> game's reaction

Therefore anti-game is something that not only doesn't react to your input but sends it's own input to you that you have to react to.

So basically God, he just doesn't send us any input since death of Christ

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Walking simulators, cinematic bullshit, games pretending to be movies, virtual novels or whatever the fuck they're called, etc

Definitely.

Games that were completely altered in order to be released in a different region.
Last Battle was a fucking Fist of the North Star game in Japan.
It had exploding heads instead of enemies just flying off the screen.
They turned Hulk Hogan green for god's sake.
Can you think of any other games like this?

good job user.

Game journalists

Define what it means first.

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On every definitive point the anti-game would have to
I have a few contenders

seriously. it sounds like some modern art crap, so i wont be assed to look it up myself.

Where does tabletop role-playing fall into this? A game that's impossible to solve? Does that make them the ultimate game?

Where does a video game like Tetris fall that gets faster and faster as it progresses, but has a limited enough set of situations that it could in theory be solved? If you can solve a game but still not beat it because of physical handicaps, what does that make it?

Oneshot is actually good though

I'll have to agree on Kikes in the Hood.
Haven't heard much about the second one aside from that it's an rpg maker game, which usually isn't a positive.

That being said what about something like quake or ut or even cs:go where the game is more like a contest where physical skills like aiming or reflexes will determine the outcome of a game. Is that a game?

I heard about this on newgrounds or kongregate what-have-you browser game sites. I never knew it won 'awards' though. At what point do we just go to whomever bestows these crowns of shit and literally murder them for being blight on human creativity?

More enjoyment playing than I can remember of any release in at least 2+ years.

I really don't get that, you're always going to be worse at it than a computer, even if you both are presented the exact same information.
Chess is a game of pure memorization mixed with some skill.

You know what the funniest part is?
The game itself was a parody of Portal, the entire thing is a tutorial, a short boss fight and then a catchy song
Both are more popular than they should be.

I feel like visual novels don't really fit that definition. I think the goal of them was more to be enhanced books, and they ended up having elements of video games entirely by happenstance.

Depression Quest

Holla Forums is anti-videogames

Mario Kart 8 is also anti-videogames with their auto helper node

I like it because I am playing other people.
I enjoy puzzles, and setting up my pieces into multiple traps, that the other played is either stumbles, or is forced into.
I don't have any intention or ability to go IM/GM in chess.

Besides most AI in games in shit, but when engineers make actual AIs they play games far better than humans anyway.
Just look up google's deepmind, carnegie mellon's AI, AI playing civilization, AI playing pong.
Mcdonalds can have a burger flipping robot, but at my house with guests, while grilling I also enjoy flipping burgers.

By that logic pic related is a game.


.gif is the anti game

A rock.

I thought it was a customized game for a kid with issues

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Just posting to let you know that you have shittaste.
The only bad thing about OneShot is that it's rather short and the puzzles are too easy.
Other than that, it's a cute, fun little story, didn't aim to be more than that and sucessfully did it.

Kike in the Hood is shit though, so at least you're partially correct.

This is a meme thread anyway.

it should have been free, even the remake, it had less content than OFF or Yume Nikki

Eh, I'm not gonna argue if it's worth the price tag or not.
I pirated then bought the steam release because I wanted to give the guy a few bucks, not because I deemed it a purchase worth money.
Don't think a lot of people would think this way either.

Mind you: I'm not saying you're a selfish asshole if you don't buy indiegames, just that when it comes to price, it's up to your personal judgement.

Judging the game itself is a different thing.

The jews.

First version was free, yeah. I torrented this game but then I decided to pay for it on steam because the dev at least tried to do something new.

Also I'm a sucker for talking animals.

I wonder if you would like Go.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(game)

A movie
If anti videogame
A book
If anti Traditional game
A song.

Choose your own adventure books obviously excluded for their, albiet limited, user interaction.

Yes. I don't know anything that fits this example, but something that plays you.

if a game deliberately screws with your perception of its interactivity, and genuinely messes with your head, then I'd call it an "antigame."

Looks like Black won. I can read a board, i watch Ikaru no go regularly.

You mean like that one experiment where they put subjects in a room with a button and told them to find the rule that lights up the bulb when they press the button?

They all made up so many rules they thought they found out when the button was just wired to randomly light up the bulb

Depression Quest
Her Story
Night Trap
Sewer shark
Dragon's Lair
Plumbers Don't Wear Ties
Wii Music
1-2 Switch
Gone Home
Etc.

The only thing I can think of that's not just bullshit subjective "I don't like this game because SJWs and it's boring to me" is the following and its sequels:
newgrounds.com/portal/view/467574

It's deliberately designed as a deconstruction of what a game is, particularly what a game is for. Unlike [insert game you don't like here] it's not a game with a political message inside it, it's a politically message with a game inside it.

The visceral clean up 'games'.

I could still have fun with a rock

All Newgrounds reviews are joke reviews

mgs, uncharted an other sony "games"

And people here have fun making fun of Gone Home.

ARG doesn't count

No you can't, you berrypicker.
That rock is mine and if you disagree, I'll hit you with it.

Work that you absolutely hate

MGS2

I thought Dragon's lair has a failure state and victory state?

Flower, Sun and Rain
It's not a VN, it's not a puzzle game, it's not a story driven game and it's not an adventure game. But it's still a game.

Wow watch out you just infuriated the resident OneShot tumblr defense force, start posting lewds of the cat to rout them before things get out of hand

Redirect them to /furry/

You living under a rock or something?

Sean sure is right now, where did he go?

walking simulators and decision-making simulators. i can't think of any answer better than that. but mainly because these games main goals isn't for the player to have fun but for the developers to slap their amateur hour writing in a medium where people might think it's deep

you think anyone involved in making Gone Home thinks they're going to make a game people will find fun? fuck no. they think they're writing something deep and thought provoking, and they only get away with it because game journalists are so desperate to be viewed as wise adults that they praise anything that is a non-traditional game

i'd argue telltale games might have been made with fun in mind, but the devs goal is to tell their story instead of make players play something, so the game is mostly just waiting for the next decision that doesn't matter to be made. again these games/experiences/whatever are dull as dishwater but journos and casuals eat it up because they haven't read a book or watched a movie ever

nigga you can call oneshot a tumblr game all you want, but comparing it to literal propaganda is inexcusable.

give me a quick rundown, i don't know anything about either of those games

The lack of awareness is astonishing.

Oneshot is a game made by some tumblrite and her friends. It doesn't have any poltical shit in it and is otherwise inoffensive. It's about a cat who's job is to save the world, with some meta bullshit thrown in to make the experience unique. The game's universe takes place inside your computer is the gimmick, and it works good enough.

KIke in the Hoods is a kickstarted game made by some sjws. It does have shoehorned in politics, with socialism and antifa being mentioned specifically, and additonally some other shoehorned in things like faggots and muh religion is evil bullshit. It's story goes along the lines of you come home because you were a failure at college and after spending 4 days doing nothing you notice a kid getting kidnapped, after an additionally 4 days spent doing nothing the game ends.
If you think I'm oversimplifying I'm not.

I'm not defending Oneshot, user. I'm merely saying that comparing it to NITW is like comparing Gone Home to OpenTTD.

Working QA in any vidya company.

It literally sucks the joy from playing video games out of you.

Yeah, it's called meguca.org

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You forgot to mention that the player character in NitW is the second most dislikable cunt in videogames. So the game is eight days of enduring autistic yowling from a shitty cat while nothing interesting happens.

Who's on first?

fucking flag

'Games' with easy mode. Basically all of platinum's products.

basically most of the games ever made

Pic related.

yeah, this seems about right

under the definition you are replying to tabletop RPG are games, because you wont run out of decisions and solved games that still require a physical test are contests.
interesting to note guitar hero isnt a game under this definition


all games are free.

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What awards?
Just checked and the closest mention is being nominated for the Independent Games Festival 2009 Innovation (Nuovo) Award.

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Sony Playstation 3

Well what are the fundamental parts of an anti-joke? Apply such fundamentals to a video game.

Having an xD is a fundamental.

You shouldn't be talking about a game that you don't know nothing about.

No it isn't. Anti-jokes are so unfunny that they turn out to be funny. That's a variable. So, an anti-game would be a game that's so boring, that it starts to become fun.

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ps3 and ps4 got no games though

THIS and Kubus games. He himself had a manifesto where he talked about how he wanted to make games as unforgiving and confusing to the player as possible.

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You sound like a Tumblr faggot.

you sound like a regular faggot.