Pretentious games

What makes a game pretentious? I feel that any game that tries to deconstruct "videogame tropes" (how I hate that fucking word) is trying way too hard to get some sort of point across like the pointless exercise in repetition that is MGS2 and its convoluted conspiracy plot or Drakengard which are both fucking boring games, don't even get me started on a certain somewhat popular game that came out this year.

So, you have no idea the actual point both games are trying to make and just want to sound pretentious yourself, OP. Also,
If you have enough working braincells you can figure this shit out easily. Go off yourself, OP.

I don't care about "the point" that they were trying to make, I care about the games being fun and they sure as fuck are not. If you want to make "a point" then make a fucking movie or something, games are supposed to be fun not a pretentious piece of trash.

Drakengard wasn't that pretentious. Nier definitely pushed it, but the narrative was still high quality. Did you have any specific issus?

it's popular and not western.

planet escape tournament is pretentious tbqh

The bland gameplay which according to some fags here froma previous thread was "purposely" bland and repetitive.

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it's stupid and it's japanese (how I hate that fucking word)

Oh wait, my bad

Dumb doesn't mean pretentious user