BBC & Australian media on video games

Are violent video games damaging too society?
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Shit thread

I don't know, does a duck's intestinal track flood with water every trip to the pond?

I don't know, does a Harvester Operator shit in the woods?

YES

Part 2
Defending call of duty Is no different from defending Hitler : BBC
WTF I love COD now.

It's like the early 90's all over again

It's probably worse to be honest. Hollywood and the music industry now pushing a lot of pro censorship propaganda as hip and cool. I was I was kidding

More true than you'd think. Aside from Target pulling GTA games from their shelves a while ago, there's also a small furore over here about a GTAV mod where you can play as police. It really is like having Jack Thompson around again.

Stupid people with a twitter account and a moral social justice complex are more harmful to society. You can't turn off those people as easily.

Not surprising, movies and music will be smalltime compared to video games in the future. They need to shut it down so they can buy everything up and maximize the shekel grabbing.
People think video games are kikey now? Wait till 20-30 years from now.

They're only harmful if they actually hold a position of any influence. However, I will argue that Tumblr and Twitter basically serve as fucking brainwashing institutions to turn impressionable young women and gay men into self-victimising cunts.

b-but they told us they wouldn't take away our games

But jack Thompson never wanted GTA or call of duty banned for adults. HE just wanted it to be illegal for store to sell M rated games to underage kids. Unlike jack Thompson Feminists got games censored and banned. Yet the game industry still demonized jack Thompson like a dead horse.

Ummm think again sweetie ;) we're not taking your games away literally, only physically! you can still buy them on Steam or pirate them or import them ;))) loopholed again! maybe if your "freeze peach" was so important you wouldn't be so determined to silence women and minorities hun ;)


The difference is that Jack Thompson didn't spend his whole life doing the Long March Through the Institutions like these "academic feminists" have. He also never offered anybody the chance to fuck him if they complied.

cunt

I think Jack Thompson was 100 times better than these new feminist hipsters. He had a sense of humor and appeared on shows and laughed at jokes about himself and he did not want the games banned from everyone, just from kids.

Yes. Outlaw gaming.

Honestly. We would probably be on Jack side back in the day. If we were not under games journalists control at the time.

We just didn't knew what the future has in hold for us…

Thompson might've been more moderate in his end goal but his demonization of games as "murder simulators" was no better than "problematic" and "pernicious" and whatever else the modern day socjus faggots throw around, and I have no doubt he'd have gone further and further. Don't make him out to be an innocent.


I could understand them not selling it because the types who go to Target are mums and kids, but their reasoning was literally a change.org petition from socjus. On the flip side EB Games cited lack of interest when they decided not to carry Senran Kagura. In both cases, they're still legal to sell in Australia and other people picked up the slack.


Fuck no.

I remember seeing some graph that shows when Mortal Kombat came out in 92-93 crime went down, or maybe it was just murder I'm not sure.

Wait, why is there clapping in a debate? this is like that qanda trash.

Thinking back now Satan. Jack Thompson even tried to warn us about feminists back in the day too. He also called out gangster rap for harming the black community.

Keep in mind jack Thompson got death threats from the hip hoop community. Unlike video game. Gangster rap sub cultural does encourage and cause violences. It's not hard to see him thinking the same of video games. Mind you game journalists encourage violence against him back in the day. I don't blame him. He fought public nudity and got shit thrown at him. He was more human than a lot of the industry today.

Ausfags are closer to Amerifats than any of you fags realize.
t.ausfag

Only in Melbourne, Sydney and Canberra user

No.
Considering how many violent films and television shows there are floating about and they tend not to do anything. I'd say video games are in a similar state and are only pursued as they are due to being still a fairly new thing in mainstream culture. If people are truly against violent video games, it is quite simple, don't buy them.

What is damaging to society is a mixture of poor parenting and substandard education, but hey, Timmy shot some computer code in the face, so that comes first.

No, you lot are just as bad as the burgers. We never should have let any of the colonies off the leash.

trips confirm, although a britcuck should be looking to his own country rather than the former colonies.

No but the BBC is.

At least we're still loyal to the queen, in comparison all of the other colonies have turned traitor
I dont know how long that will last now that Bongistan is coming

Holla Forums is proof of this

Found part 3

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what's wrong with violence?

classic

The difference is this time it comes from people from inside the industry. They fucking hate video games.

Jesus Christ user, do you need other people to think for you? Fuck off to reddit if you find it too hard to form your own opinions

No, gents. This is nothing like the 90s.

You probably ate up the jack Thompson was the devil in the 2000s. He never wanted censorship. He wanted lazy parents and gamespot employee to do their jobs by not letting kids buy GTA and call of duty. How that bad? No gaming news site wanted to hear Jackson Thompson side of the story. How that not character assassination?

Violent game discussion is a thing of the past now that everybody is a gamer and it's cool to play violent games.
Violent games make people nerds and not violent criminals.

This is censorship, period, end of story.

More than that, Jack was a strawman; the evil, old, conservative, Christian, fucking white male that was vilified and paraded around endlessly by the Liberal media, all the while the Democrats were introducing nearly all bills to control/censor/restrict video games. The Jew cries out as he strikes you.

yes

He wanted to shutdown Rockstar games because he thought the CEO was a cunt. And it was a opinion not a goal. He likes to see rockstar destroyed out of them making it personal. Founders of rockstar were always well known cunts to their employees. He never said wanted to shutdown the gaming industry. Is wanting to see bioware shutdown censorship?

I don't know, are violent protests damaging to society?

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This isn't reddit, you can call them niggers. Nice quads.

A little off subject. But keep you mind saved by the bell would be called sexist alt-right fat shaming propaganda today.
I wish I was kidding
Saved by the bell would be too edgy for millienals

Wanting to see it shut down is fine. Using legal harassment to shut it down is censorship. I don't give a damn if they put out SJW drivel. They have every right to do that and die from the lack of sales. That's the free market talking. You go full censorship when you actively attempt to shut them down just because you don't want anyone else playing their games.
Also, stop trying to pretend Jacko's beef with Rockstar was with the CEO when that video someone else posted earlier shows him explicitly fucking stating that it's because of the games they released. If it was like you said and he just wanted to make it illegal to sell games to minors, I'd be all for that, but that wasn't what he was about. He wanted to decide what was acceptable and what wasn't, and that's censorship. Your next line will be "But it's not censorship unless the government does it!"


Yes, everything is permitted in fiction. Open a dictionary and look up what fiction means on your way back to tumblr.

You honestly blindly trusting a mainstream report that's already bias against him in the first place?
Read his interviews and past public statements. He never wanted to shut them out of censorship. He went after CEOs that did marketed adult material to minors. Taketwo did just that in the past. There legal repercussions If porn sites market to kids. Hell after jack Thompson was out of a job. EA games marketed deadspace 2 to kids.

You are so stupid that you cannot understand how stupid you are. Nobody is talking about what can and cannot hypothetically represented in some medium. What is being talked about is who can view it and why. Your argument boils down to "everyone can watch everything", which is so trivially false that it reveals you are either mentally retarded or have given such little thought to the topic that it is insulting you would even involve yourself in a conversation about it. All absolute propositions can be disproved with a single exception: do you or do you not believe that an enormou screen should be constructed outside a kindergarten which streams pornography 24/7, such that the children can see it? Don't even bother trying to weasel an argument out in favor of this, because we can construct increasingly depraved scenarios until you either give the desired response. And after you're done being an autistic fuckwit and admit the extremely obvious, that some people shouldn't be able to view some content, we can get on with the discussion, which is what should and shouldn't be censored and for whom.

Stores are free to sell what they want, and developers are free to make what they want. It harms literally nobody. Just because someone is butthurt that a woman in GTA showed her ankle doesn't mean it should be banned

It's the job of the parent to raise their kid well, not Rockstar or Gamestop

Another dribbler. Offer up your personal precise metric of harm and we shall demonstrate otherwise. Utilitarianism is self-defeating. If you weren't unworthy of being taught to read and write, you would've figured this out.

JBJ

And so if the parents decide to perform that job by getting together and requiring that Rockstar and Gamestop assist them by oh, say, creating ratings and enforcing them at the point of sale you silly bastard?

They're free to not buy games they don't want their children playing. They can't coerce everyone to abide by their rules however.

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Yes, they can. They in fact have. You can in fact do more in the marketplace than vote with your money, as evidenced by all of history, contrary to that one "economics explained!" video you once watched on youtube, before marching your wise ass on down here. If you actually thought about your ideas for half a second, you would see how specious and meaningless they are. So let us envision a marketplace that has competing gamestores, some offer ratings and point of sale enforcement, some don't, parents favor the ones that do, forcing the rest to conform or go out of business. It's the same effect.

But you are a slimy shit and you'll pretend it's only a matter of will and action on the part of the parents to prevent a child from doing something they don't want him, and that trying to work with others their children interact with, including businesses, is some sort of failure in ability on their part. Fuck no. You desire an effect? You don't want children playing games that are inappropriate for them? You take steps at every point in the purchase/playing process to ensure they conform to the rules; advertising rules, ratings, point of sale enforcement, refusing to buy inappropriate games personally. All of these will contribute to the success chance of them not playing games you don't want them to play.

Also, I can tell you had shit parents, and I always find it hilarious that your kind are the most vociferous when comes to discussing what is good and bad parenting, when you wouldn't know one from the other and only have deranged half-baked theories straight off wiki.

Why'd you have to point that out.


My main beef with rating systems is the incentive to fit into a slightly lower category (read: censor), especially when it's trying to appease multiple countries at once. Overall though even I agree that having them does more good than harm. Outright fuck-ups like "High-impact sexual violence" are rare.

Oh and have this for relevance and for a laugh.

I don't pay attention to this and would like to see examples.

Q and A is also ABC

Where did I say I was against this? I merely said that they should not be forced to do so. If catering to parents seem like a profitable way to go (which they are since they're the ones buying the games), then the stores will shift their tactics to serve them.

I don't want my kids playing what I think is inappropriate for them, not some evangelical puritan with a sitck up his ass, or some marxist SJW who only wants to turn my child into a comrade. Even if I was buying hentai game #501 for an 8 year old, for that situation to arise there would surely be more pressing issues in the household to be concerned about (which would indeed require some intervention).

Again as long as you don't force people to abide by this it's fine by me. Sure if I had a kid, I'll only buy from retailers with games that satisfy my criteria. But I'm not going to wail "won't someone think of the children" if a store fails to do so. Not to mention that vidya doesn't reflect reality in the first place, like film, and books.

Not an argument

In any event, I think the misunderstanding between us is I don't think you should punish everyone for the failures for a few.

Both degrassi and Law & order SVU had Anti-Gamer and video game episodes. SVU even portrayed gamergate As serial rapist hackers.

Please ignore 100% of ausfalian media.

t.ausfag

That one was laughed out the door by everyone, it was clearly some crummy show jumping on some bandwagon. They also did it with Trump.

Honestly, I think it's definitely harmful to kids. I wish I had spent all those hours playing half life and quake as a kid on something else, like going outside or reading a book.

Didn't they also portrayed Bernie sanders as trump rape body in the same episode?

They're not defending censorship publicly, though. They're rewriting the narrative so that they're fighting physically violent sexual offenders. They're not actually convincing anyone that censorship is cool, they're convincing everyone that there wasn't any.

Keep in mind MRAs are portrayed as rape terrorist in later episodes. Still not as bad as Degrassi.

This. The problem isn't the effect of video games on people, it's the effect of retarded parents not wanting to parent their children and letting them sit in front of a screen for 6 hours a day.

This shit is the british equivalent of Dr. Phil or some other equally shitty day time television. In the first five minutes, the "academic" bitch drops an appeal to authority fallacy, and the entire fucking crowd gives a wholehearted round of applause. This is garbage that should be disregarded.

No, leftism is.

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Parents like to blame things they don't understand for their kids' behavior so they don't have to admit they failed their job as parents.
Also, holy shit anglo women look so fucking disgusting

At least she thicc

Sadly, this is increasingly becoming the case, also it gives the media a convenient scapegoat.

No one learns anything ever

There's nothing wrong with murder simulators though, in fact we need more of them, better ones.

Where the hell did you come cruising in from?

Then we'll have to deal with them when we're done dealing with the SJWs. Eternal vigilance and all that.