Holla Forums What happened to playing as the "Good Guys" in video games?
Ten- Fifteen years ago, you played as counter terrorist operators protecting people, or SWAT officers protecting people, or a cartoon animal thats trying to save X from Y.
I just finished downloading Ghost Recon Wildlands, a series that had games way back on the playstation 1, where you played as counter terrorist operators protecting civilians. But thats not how it is today:
The Division had this shit too, The first mission into the medic quest line, you're introduced to a strong independent womyn who don't need no man. Why? Because shes the best doctor left alive in the entire world and she can run the whole show.
Literally the very next mission, she talks to you about HER WIFE.
Completely irrelevant to the storyline or anything thats going on. It just HAS TO let the player know that shes a gay female AND SHE CAN STILL BE THE BEST CORPSMAN EVER.
This isnt just jewbisoft's games either. Its CONSTANT.
Someone needs to goto Ubisoft's headquarters, and show them what assault-clips can do, marching from cubicle to cubicle in their office
Jonathan Murphy
I mean females wearing plate armor wasn't unheard of. They never actually fought on the front lines though.
Austin Sullivan
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Logan Mitchell
You can only listen to their bullshit for so long
Gavin Gomez
Keep Holla Forums in Holla Forums
Samuel Hernandez
keep your meta shit elsewhere too
Angel White
what meta shit ?
Ryder Phillips
op is actually discussing videogames, you are discussing threads
Landon Gonzalez
how the hell is he discussing videogames when his entire OP is politics ? He even posted typical Holla Forums shit like Le Day of Le Rope.jpg
Isaac Nelson
because he even mentioned where are the politics in those videogames
Nicholas Sanchez
cry some more
Alexander Jenkins
That's not how this works kemosabe!!
Owen Torres
Video games are bigger than movies, and with the MSM falling apart at the seams, the only practical way to indoctrinate future voters is though video games. See who owns the biggest publishers, and if there's any sort of (((coincidence))) to the pattern. The only genuinely good games you're going to see for the near future are going to be stuff made by small teams, likely from crowdfunding. The trick is, you have to know who to back, or you'll end up with Mediocre No. 5.6 every time.
Or you could, you know, play your backlog of old games that are actually good, instead of racing to Gaystop for the newest $60 pile of unfinished, untested bullshit.
Samuel Cook
nothing is stopping you from discussing this same thing on Holla Forums since its a political topic
Parker Nguyen
Oh fuck off with your bullshit. Old video games have the same levels of SJW pandering. The best thing one can do is to burn the entire worthless (((hobby))) to the ground and hang anyone who resists.
Cameron Turner
reminder that Stefan is a jew and not to be trusted.
Bentley Baker
All socialism is the same. It's an ideal for children.
Kevin Kelly
Well this thread is going nowhere so I might as well use it to check the get
Jeremiah Mitchell
Not an argument.
Jordan Green
Fuck off.
Dominic Fisher
You cucks are all the same, spouting low energy libtard memes You're going to hang. Choose now whether you want that to be from your ceiling a street light.
Aaron Reed
Prove me wrong faggot. I bet you don't even know introductory Economics.
Parker Martinez
Wow even Ubisoft threads are shit. That's impressive
Juan Phillips
:DDD
Charles Hall
If you knew anything about the rise of the national socialist party you'd know they only called themselves socialists to gain support from retards who see the word socialist and support it. God I'm going to love hanging you
Evan Robinson
I forgot some Holla Forumstards were actually this bad at understanding finance, not surprising given how limited their understanding of politics is.
Jace Ortiz
That pic is retarded, they're niggers so of course it won't work.
Jonathan Johnson
Fuck off you easily triggered queer.
Thomas Kelly
i wish Holla Forums was a better at not taking obvious bait designed to fuel metafaggotry from the same few fags who constantly bitch on multiple boards about Holla Forums.
James Bennett
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Hudson Nelson
Holy shit, one of them just replied to you >>12000788
Zachary Hill
we get retards trying to make them about anime all the time though.
It's not out until March 7 What the fuck OP where do you get that shit?
Adrian Hernandez
The open beta started today
Leo Sullivan
I'm assuming it's digital download only then and has some kind of DRM like steam, is this how it is?
Bentley Long
You can try faggot.
Naming origins aren't the point of the matter. National Socialism is no free market. It's another example of government bloat, just like any other socialist state. And it is doomed to inevitably fail when implemented just like all of its sister policies.
Isaac Rogers
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Jose Stewart
You are not refuting my argument, so i am right?
Cooper Bennett
What argument?
Dominic Russell
Moral relativism is the issue here, and the left is pretty hard wired to buy into moral relativism. American leftism is a struggle for moral supremacy that is demonstrated primarily through moral relativism. If you treat Leftism as a sort of religion with moral supremacy as a goal, their behaviors start to make more sense.
On a larger scale with more and more games, the issue you're running into isn't just leftism or moral relativism, it's that the structure of most games that sell well is totally counter to moral relativism that leftism requires. In fact, they are almost incompatible.
Of course, this relativism is difficult to work into most popular games because most of the popular games involve killing thousands of enemies. How does a committed leftist actually write a game where the gameplay is centered around the vanquishing of thousands of enemies and give the player a sense of accomplishment without saying that the player is on the side of Objective Good? And keep in mind that the leftist has to signal in order to show other leftists that the writer does not agree with what he has to write and, therefore, should not be pursued and witch-hunted for insufficient virtue.
Well, it's really difficult.
One way is to make the enemies something so distant and unrealistic, like zombies, aliens, robots, or ghosts, in order to disassociate that question from most people's minds. Another way, like The Division does, is to largely sidestep the thorny issues that would present themselves in a realistic situation, but then offer winks and nods in the few inconsequential places they can. Another way is to make the primary enemies of the game be controlled like pawns by the true bad, which is what Uncharted and Horizon Zero Dawn do. Ghost Recon Wildlands is forced to turn itself into knots in a silly fashion early on in order to make their game not explicitly anti-drug lord and anti-communist, which comes across as silly because the game is practically Trump Simulator 2017 once you get going.
It's a really rough time as a leftist to write leftist games when structurally is is extremely difficult to do so. Why do you think that so many of these leftist game critics and SJW types call for getting guns and violence out of games? Because they know that most game structures, at their core, are deeply right wing, and if you are a leftist writer or game maker, it sucks to be playing deep in the enemy's home turf.
Samuel Butler
Yeah, I'm sure the Decepticunt Party was wringing their hands jamming "the only good human being is a trans-black-lesbian" bullshit in Plok, Earthworm Jim, Road Rash 2, Desert Strike, Battlefield 2, Quake 3, Unreal Tournament, Tribes 2, Tomba, Ape Escape, R4, Zone of Enders, MGS, Einhander, Jak & Daxter, Crash Team Racing, Ninja Golf, Revenge of Shinobi, Cybersled, and Mortal Kombat II. Damn the Clinton Foundation and their time machine, shoehorning regressive bullshit into games made when everyone who played video games was considered a social pariah.
Benjamin Moore
so you do agree after all
Landon Rogers
FUCK THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO PLAYING AS "THE GUY" AT ALL? LOOK AT HOW MANY FAGGOTS WANT TO ONLY PLAY AS GIRLS. IT'S REALLY ALARMING.
Ryan Anderson
People are offended by the idea of playing as Blake Slate: The Nobody Man, and making your own character isn't good enough. The people who cry about diversity don't have the sense to move sliders around to make custom characters. If the game isn't catering to the highest point of the oppression stack, and stamping on Dwight Mann's neck in the process, it's no different than raping the player!
Charles Gomez
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Jason Russell
Oh boy its that Reddit time of the year.
Easton Richardson
Hey, everyone used to bitch about brown haired faggots like chris redfield or bald heroes. They could make more blonde heroes for fuck's sake. Other than William in Nioh what's the last blonde hair blue eyed male protag in gaming?
Alexander Flores
My nigga…
Brody Sanchez
That just comes off as a pretentious way of saying 'it's a coping mechanism because can't get laid even if their life depended on it.'
Nathan Evans
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Tyler Ward
user, whoring yourself is no excuse for racemixing. If your going to be a slut at least have enough self respect to submit to faceless fat guys or old men.
Luis Hernandez
Thinking in terms of "good guy vs. bad guy" is a literal child's way of viewing the world. When video games started to market to adults instead of children, developers realized they had to at the very least put in some moral grey area with conflict. Many a teenager has gone back to Mario and found himself wondering "Wait, why the fuck am I killing all these turtles? What have these turtles ever done? Is it because I was told to? That's not really a good reason." It's a little bit difficult to convince an adult to go and shoot someone because "they're bad guys", because adults realize that in war, the only difference is what side you're on, that "evil" doesn't even exist.
So the developers started to make games where you shoot zombies, or aliens, or whatever else so the players didn't have to feel bad about mowing down other humans who, from their perspective, are the "good guys". Even in games where there are other humans, they're still portrayed as stereotypical "bad guys", like they're raiders or gangbangers or pirates or terrorists or whatever bullshit label they can stick on 'em so you can be assured they did dun bad so they deserve death. The last thing they want is a player suddenly contemplating the moral quandary of marching into battle in a WWII game and realizing that the guy on the other side is just like them, only was born in Germany instead of America — that he has parents and children and loves them. Nah, it's better when the opposing side is faceless so the player can just go about happily without a care. In essence, the player is being tricked into reverting back to that child-like view of the world. For some people it works, for some it doesn't.
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I… uh,
It's, ah, it's… IT'S ALL A JEWISH CONSPIRACY!
Yes! Um, it's the… liberal agenda! And the, the FAGGOTS! Yes, those liberal Jewish faggots with their lack of red-pill-…ness!
Also the feminists! FEMINAZIS! They want to take away your manhood and your God-given rights to bear arms and, uh, shoot anyone with different colored skin… whenever you please! Yes. That's what it is.
Carry on, brave, uh… men…
Kevin Campbell
Go cry on /sudo/ some more.
Landon Russell
A lot of what OP is describing is what I have come to see as what happens when video games have been pushed to be too real. Making them look like real life has the side effect of people wanting them to behave like real life. A result of that, of course, is that the stories being told now have to reflect some sort of real life logic because real people need to behave in real ways. And as a consequence of all of that, there are no real good guys or bad guys. Just you being on the side you're on.
Now, when the video games are allowed to be surreal, all of that shit could go out the window and you can have the easy "good guys vs bad guys" sort of story. Consider this; only the most autistic tryhard faggots would apply real life logic, values, and expectations on Mario games or Zelda games or the old final fantasy games or anything like that.
If you want an easy example of this sort of realism poisoning things, then look no further than Final Fantasy 7. The video game when it came out doesn't look very real at all. The cutscenes have the characters looking like some sort of toys and the in-game battle models look like anime characters that were pasted together on themselves to make them 3D. This world was a fanciful thing with a rather fanciful storyline. There was a clear set of good guys and a clear set of bad guys and the baddest of guys had the baddest of intentions. THEN; Advent Children comes out. Yeah, looks impressive but now things are pushed into that "realism" sphere. What happens next? OH! SEPHIROTH WASNT SUCH A BAD GUY! HE IS A TRAGIC FALLEN HERO! And of course allllll the shit that came about because of that.
Sebastian Scott
Bro. Dude. Bro.
It's just a Jewish Conspiracy. We're the good guys; they're the bad guys. There's no such thing as a grey area. Line up the head in the crosshairs, pull the trigger. Line up the head in the crosshairs, pull the trigger. Line up the head in the crosshairs, pull the trigger. It's okay because they're evil. You're making the world a better place!
Camden Morales
Are you okay?
Levi Thomas
Doesn't he hate his mother?
Gavin Baker
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Anthony Campbell
Grey area is for people too afraid to stand up for anything.
You've been sold the simple lie of moral relativism. Everything is permissible to you because everything is like totally relative man.
Some things aren't grey. If you have to take a stand ever in your life you'll find out.
Brayden Gonzalez
That's right. That's why we have to shoot the niggers before they shoot us. And keep out the immigrants because they are godless heathens who don't know love, who only raise children to turn them into terrorist killing machines, before they steal our jobs.
Lucas Reyes
Do you understand that misrepresenting another group's views is a violently stupid waste of your time?
What do you get out of this? Cheap laughs? Probably not even.
Asher Campbell
You're not very good at this are you
Carson Carter
I want the redditors to leave.
Isaiah Brooks
But everyone is ugly and evil and std ridden!
Kevin Edwards
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Easton Mitchell
Is this shitposting, or are you actually this retarded? I can't tell anymore after the flood of halfcucks that came here in the wake of the election. I want 2016 Holla Forums back
Noah Martin
It's funny how the ugliest pictures are often a mirror.
I can't wait for Trump to make videogames great again. He's such a smart guy.
Henry Bennett
Because they're trying to kill me. What more reason do you need? Are you just going to let your wife and kids be raped and tortured by the enemy soldiers just because you don't want to do something morally gray? That's some "if you kill your enemies, they win" level retardation
Thomas Jenkins
By walking in a straight line and not even noticing your presence. Oh yes, that porcupine you slapped was totally trying to kill you. You can tell because your hand is full of quills and it really hurts.
Jeremiah Powell
Hey, you're really intelligent sounding. Do you have a blog or something somewhere?
Cameron Taylor
He is baiting, nobody is that stupid.
Robert Kelly
Actually, I prefer non-intelligent sounding. Whenever I do it with intelligent creatures they tend to scream a lot. Makes it hard to enjoy myself. I guess it's a good think that stupid people are also evil. I don't have to feel bad at all!
Dylan White
No seriously I get the feeling that you're an artist or something, you sound familiar. Can I see your blog?
Mason Hill
You kill the turtles because if you don't they could possibly kill you. That's the rules of the game. You touch the turtle in Mario in any way except stomping on the top of its shell and you will die. The game is as simple as make it from point A to point B. Don't fall in a hole.
When you start getting into the realm of questioning the motives of a plumber killing turtles to save a princess that was kidnapped by a giant spike-shelled dinosaur king it is time to consult your doctor about ways to treat your autism.
Isaiah Lopez
What happened to the "Good Threads" in Holla Forums - Video Games?
Brandon Hill
MPC4Utube if i had to guess
Hunter Richardson
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Parker Sullivan
We were flooded with faggots recently and there is no way to stem the tide.
Untill Mark does something about it expect to see:
It was an okay ride, but it's over now.
Isaac Gonzalez
Ah, so it's a preemptive strike. Can't be too careful; better press that big red button before they press theirs!
Also a good point! If some of the turtles are shooting at you, it means ALL of the turtles are dangerous. Better be extra careful around them because they're clearly more prone to violence, as a race.
Sebastian Diaz
You've been saying this every week since late 2015.
Bentley Hill
Same thing that happened to Holla Forums, and previously to halfchan: flooded by immigrants who refused to adjust to their new home.
Chase Rivera
If you want to debate Holla Forums why don't you just go to Holla Forums and do it?
I was going to humor you, but you're just too low effort. It's embarrassing.
You're off by a year. I'd say about 2016 it really started to kick in.
William Nguyen
You Holla Forumstards are fucking delusional.
Eli Reed
Some of the ones in the Paper Mario games are pretty chill.
Evan Roberts
-t. cuckchan refugee
Nolan Evans
And you make ridiculing statements without any meaning or evidence like it does anything but drown people out.
I thought leftists were supposed to "encourage dialog?"
All you do is shout insults at people. You have nothing of value to say because you think of everyone who disagrees with you as some bizarre caricature.
You don't even bother finding common ground, and then you wonder why we want to throw you out of helicopters.
Tyler Fisher
I'm not a "leftist", I'm someone who wants to discuss videogames without one of you retards flooding every thread with irrelevant shit about faggots and jews.
I don't want to find "common ground", I want to talk about videogames without the thin veil of Holla Forums overshadowing things.
Joshua Young
You used to be able to do so before the election ramped up around summer 2016, when the shitposting on Holla Forums intensified to the point they could no longer contain it.
Elijah Price
Please post some personal information.
Levi Clark
Well considering Holla Forums has Holla Forums outnumbered with anywhere between ~400-~1000 users at any given time, that's just not going to happen.
Charles Barnes
No one cares what you want. I want you to stop your endless womanly whining about the big bad neetsocs that you have inflicted on this board for almost 2 years but I'm not going to get that and you aren't going to get what you want either.
Jaxson Wright
jesus christ you people are falling for obvious bait. just stop.
Jose Clark
But you are the one who keeps whining about Holla Forums and attracting Holla Forums users to the thread just like when people complain about Holla Forums before they have actually showed up on a thread.
Asher Edwards
We never used to have shit like that here. Bait used to be good spirited banter.
"I was merely pretending to be retarded" is 4chan tier shit.
Jaxon Harris
Holla Forumsack here and I didn't discuss shit but because your whiney ass is talking about it, now I will because you're a little bitch
Fucking kike
Jacob Sullivan
and yet you kept replying to him.
Jeremiah Peterson
Silence is consent.
The cancer will grow if you do nothing.
The cancer will grow if you do something.
Alexander Roberts
Why no superhero game where you protect those who cannot protect themselves?
Carson Cruz
A strange game, the only winning move is not to play.
Owen Price
The strong protect themselves. Protecting the weak sounds suspiciously like communism.
Zachary Hughes
No, not playing is also a losing move.
Learn to read.
Eli Smith
requesting a cap of the guy who got triggered by kamen rider for being kiddy moralfag shit. I think he was also the guy who hates Kenshiro
Lucas King
I know. As funny as the Trump stuff was, the price was apparently too high, you can't discuss anything anymore without politics being injected into it by someone.
This thread was irredeemable from the start.
None of the other boards I go to seem to have a problem with more popular boards ruining the ability to have decent threads about the boards main subject.
Nobody cares what you think
Holla Forums and Holla Forums also used to have a symbiotic relationship, rather than an occupational one.
There was always to some degree a Holla Forums presence here, but in the past they at least tried to make the discussions both relevant and reasonable, and occasionally Trump memes, now everything to come out of Holla Forums is either obvious bait, has nothing to do with videogames, is just them accusing random people of being all the things they hate, or some combination of the three.
It's ironic, because it mirrors a lot of the things they're so worried about and intent on stopping. Foreign presence slowly integrating, seeming non-problematic at first, then once it's too late to stem the tide, they start raping everything you love to death and crying about persecution if you complain about it.
Bentley Cook
No, it's common sense, user. You help people because it's the right thing to do.
I know who you're talking about, I was in that thread, but sadly I don't have the cap.
Blake Bell
leave
Matthew Foster
Do you forget that we are all anoymous? How do you even know it's Holla Forums. We have screen grabs from leftypol saying they were going to pose as Holla Forums to create interboard tension.
Of course you already knew that though, because you're pretending to be the moderate voice in the room.
Nothing lasts forever and the crux of being user is that anyone can. And for any reason.
Owen Rogers
Because Holla Forums literally cannot talk about video games without correlating it to entry-level identity politics.
Ayden Fisher
you start out with a good question but then you go off rails bitching about wimmin, niggers, jews and faggots. seriously i fucking hate what the election did to Holla Forums.
Lucas Martin
halfchan needs to fuck off
Connor Barnes
Nice anecdotal evidence. This is the part where I leave the thread and you get to claim victory. Meanwhile you will wonder why the board is going to shit.
Literally none of this happened.
We are being astroturfed. If this is how it is then so be it. I'm done. You won, you horrible faggots.
Thomas Brooks
read the fucking op
Ethan Brooks
Because is Holla Forums is the polar opposite of subtle.
Evan Lopez
I really hate this idea that villains need to be sympathetic or likable. What's wrong with a villain who's just a plain asshole and embraces it? Sure, the world's not all black and white, but that's not to say that there aren't people who are just plain evil. What's wrong with the fun of saving the world from a couple assholes?
Charles Walker
You act like it's your old racist uncle slinging slurs incoherently.
If you disagree at all with the premise of the OP then you werent here for the exodus and you should get the fuck out.
But you wont. So I will. Fuck you.
Juan Smith
read the fucking OP you massive retard, he starts out with a good question then goes full retard on other shit.
Jace Sanders
it was a fun thread, I'll admit it.
Sebastian White
leave your with us or against us autism on your own board
Hunter Gonzalez
No it isn't. It's always been incredibly easy. Even today, in first world countries, it's very easy to get soldiers to kill whoever you want them to kill. Have you never heard of Ruby Ridge?
Dominic Morris
I knew this was a (1) before I even looked
Joseph Thompson
yeah
Charles Davis
That's why they don't use adults; they pluck kids right out of high school and shuffle them through boot camp and hand 'em a rifle faster than you can recite the Pledge of Allegiance.
Gabriel Young
The ATF guys weren't teenagers. They were full grown adults.
Jonathan Adams
Holla Forums can fuck off back to pol and stay there!
Ian Flores
I don't know, I don't recall any games where you play as Vietcong or as Soviets in Afghan War.
Andrew Murphy
the short answer: Stone Cold Steve Austin
the long answer: in the late nineties and early 00s the antihero became the new hero in virtually all popular media. if you were into wrestling you saw it happen with stone cold, the rock, then virtually everyone else - the heroes, the big popular guys that everyone cheered for and wanted merchandise of, they were all the "bad guys" tearing down the establishment one ass-whooping at a time. in movies, look at the matrix; a group of hackers literally destroy the system from the inside out and rebuild it because the system is corrupt and evil. almost all media started with this angle because frankly it was fresh and exciting; the days of arnold schwarzenegger killing a million russians because america is #1 or tom cruise hosting a softcore US Navy jet porno were long gone and people wanted something new
i think moving forward we're going to see a change again, either to anarchy rulz XD disestablishmentarianism or whatever the pretentious douche term for it is, or even back to "we are good guys killing provably bad guys". the edgy grey-area hero era is starting to peter out if you ask me. tl;dr i'm a huge faggot please rape my face
Asher Russell
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Bentley Kelly
Whilst the second part of your post is shitty bait, the first issue is actually not an issue of being the "good guys" but more about reactive heroes vs proactive. In the 80s, 90s and early 2000s fiction had a really big lean towards reactive heroes, people who are trying to stop something bad happening and protect the status quo. These days things are moving more towards proactive heroes, people who are trying to change things to make them better. Now in both cases you can potentially disagree with them morally depending on what they are trying to stop or to change. The swing between the two types of hero is just part of the cycle of fashion, same as cars being round then blocky then round again.
David Morales
This is what i find hilarious about all the Batman "Arkham" games. They have removed all the innocent bystanders to protect and its literally just Batman beating up up people in a mental health institute. There are almost no people to protect in those games because you never spend any fucking time in actual Gotham.
David Wilson
Spiderman games dude.Spiderman movie games for 2 and 3 let you directly save some people and do some slick web slinging.
In a way that always bugged me. I really like when there's a minor element of being the hero directly. Even if its just simple shit like little quests and stuff it helps.
Oliver Bailey
Why are leftists invariably totalitarian? Why are they incapable of "live and let live"? Why do they demand that every aspect of everyone's life conform to their ideals?
Jason Sullivan
"Life and let live" is anarchy. Nobody wants that. I'd rather have leftists telling me how to speak than rightists telling me I can't vote because X.
Tyler Carter
First year college students should not be allowed to express their opinion. You fuckers are always the same. ALWAYS. I'm barely 30, and I've seen this point regurgitated thousands of times since I've been on the Internet (1998). There is never any innovation. Slight details change, because you're unable to form any thought your Marxist professor didn't spoonfeed you, but you're a stereotype indistinguishible from the millions of other people of your age and your background.
I don't care about the Muslims burning my country. I don't care about the environment going to shit. I don't care about female hypergamy. I don't care about the pedos and the cucks. I just want first year college students to be gutted and left to bleed on the floor. You morons ruin the Internet, ruin open discussion, ruin free exchange of ideas. It's not the Jews, it's you. It's your fucking fault, and you deserve to burn for it.
Matthew Robinson
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Juan Jenkins
How delusional do you have to be to think you know what's best for everyone.
Caleb Watson
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Adrian Thompson
Whatever you say, bucko. Just keep in mind that the government is the only reason why your neighbor can't come over, kill you, and take that private property for his own.
John Martin
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Mason White
I'm not sure how that justifies policing every aspect of people's lives.
Levi Hernandez
TOK KEK
Julian Carter
You know what: I don't care. You don't like the extreme left; I don't like the extreme right; they're both basically the same thing, so we should both just shut the fuck up.
Justin Hughes
*TOP
Ryan Moore
this is a suspiciously mature post. gramps? is that you?
Ryder Ortiz
All left continually pushes towards the extreme left, though. There's no faction of the left, for example, that says "hey maybe we DON'T need to genocide white people out of existence". They all back it 100%.
Leo Cooper
That's literally true in real life and in video games, black people are half as likely to carry the empathy gene as whites. also nice reddit space
Colton Hall
9/10 if bait, 2/10 if impressionable teen who has been browsing Holla Forums for too long
Josiah Ortiz
Who's to say they were actually Holla Forums? As you said we're all anonymous , and anyone can go to any board or thread and claim they're representing X board or group and proceed to stir up shit. Shit think back to halfchan where many anons shitpost "for the lulz"; it could just be random faggots trying and succeeding to divide and conquer by getting anons to fight over the smallest shit.
Oy King Kike you or your goons should prune this thread by the by, or at the very least start using /metav/ again so you can redirect shit like this there and maybe try improving board quality.
Austin Ortiz
To be fair, even in the original he was stated to be a legendary war hero most of the pleb soldiers looked up to, before his butthurt over the realization he essentially was the same as the monsters he was killing, overtook him.
Really, good deal of FF antagonists in general have this trend of being fucked over by something or other. Garland is paradoxically fucking himself over for eternity until Chaos is beaten. FF3 had that dude whose dickhead master pranked him into mortality. Kind of the same shit for Kuja, except he started out with a shit tier lifespan. Golbez was mindfucked by the moonfag. Kefka, who people circlejerk over "muh evil", was just some dude unfortunate enough to be the first guy testing out magitech and got brain damage from that shit. Ultimecia was whacked out paranoid about being killed, so then she just decided remove time.
Ethan Brown
That would explain why he goes into an autistic screech after the emperor tries to kill him.
Aaron Wood
It's current year + 2, user. I'm surprised they haven't raped historical accuracy harder. Like have a transsexual, muslim king.
Jace Howard
YOU CAN NOT BE THIS RETARDED.
QUICK OP, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CLIP AND A MAGAZINE!?!
Dominic Baker
REDUNDANT QUESTION YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE
Jaxon Anderson
I think the "right thing to do" is atomic cleansing.
on a scale of 10000000 to 20000000, how retarded are you?
Carson Bennett
Exactly. You help those weaker than you and rule over them with benevolence.
If you had written "destroy things in the name of political ideology" I'd agree with you. The norm for the past thirty or so years has been for everything from books to games to consist of some rebel(s) destroying "the system" or "taking down the man" repeated over and over.
Try lurking /k/ so you can avoid looking stupid in the future.
Nathan Garcia
Have you ever actually been on Holla Forums? A lot of them are pretty stupid, but they don't advocate for this (except for Holla Forums false flaggers). Both Holla Forums and Holla Forums false flag on each other's boards all the time, so don't assume that the first handful of responses you get are what the board actually believes.
As for the actual thread topic, this kind of grey morality was a reaction to decades of MURRIKA STRONK AND BEST AT EVERYTHING. People wanted something different, but now grey morality has become fairly common and some people want to do something new again. It'll be interesting to see what comes next.
Ryan Mitchell
(checked) You're probably Australian
Jackson Gray
My money's on a return to AMERICA STRONK. We're already seeing it in the political ring with Trump's win, and while I don't expect the supergiant media conglomerates to catch on, there's going to be plenty catering to the new hip mindset in time.
Alexander Hughes
considering the US was founded on a successful rebellion against the British Empire it's kind of an important thing to US culture. we like seeing underdog rebels kick the shit out of a much stronger establishment that oppresses the people. bringing freedom and liberty to the masses. 'MERICA!
Josiah Carter
I don't think so. You can only do that when the country is united, and right now the country is more bitterly divided than at any time in living memory.
Jacob Rivera
No its all shades of grey now. You're all partly shit and partly great. The mass murdering, terrorist psycho is just misunderstood. If only the state did more for him, this wouldn't have happened. If only they helped the oppressed minorities they wouldn't loot, rape and kill so much.
This is your brain on Marxism.
Eli Flores
A good economy buys a lot of acceptance. We'll see if Trump can make it happen.
Carson Rodriguez
I don't live anywhere near the alps.
The problem is that kind of attitude leads towards underdog worship where whichever faction is weaker, less organized and less competent will immediately be considered by the plebs to be the more righteous one. Or worse: anarchists like the one in your image.
Owen Bell
Perfect libertarian society working in perfect harmony. Dogs dont have taxes, also they're not niggers so they arent running around with AK's.
This picture is a better example than yours
Connor Wright
I've always found playing as the bad guys more fun. Sure, being a criminal is not moral behavior in Grand Theft Auto, but it's usually more fun than stopping crime and isn't fun what we play vidya for?
Charles Parker
Because the bad guys are making videogames now.
Samuel Watson
i don't even have to ask if you are retarded
Dylan Hernandez
Oh, I clicked on this thread expecting you to complain about story's that are not black and white but your complaining about poz.
Nathan Anderson
The main problem is that it's not played straight, they have you playing as the underdog while taking chances at shoving whatever college buzzword they can in there. It even makes sense if you think about the purposed audience: kids are ready to believe what most of their environment and their caretakers say, and most college faggots are pozzed to hell and back. This thread could extend into games that do it right, but OP asked about going commando on clearly defined bad guys.
Syrian Warfare Once you read about NATO moves throughout the Syrian ordeal, it's clear this is a Good vs Bad scenario. Embed is gameplay vid from that thread. And I'm out of new games to recommend. Pehaps the latest Rainbow Six fits the bill, but that's multiplayer. Modern setting games are far too gone, I recommend trying other genres and settings; on top of the best advice that has already been given on this thread: Only games made by small teams have a chance of being good as a whole these days. I would rather put money on an open source project that could crash and burn or meet its goals than on a game that will be mediocre at best, propaganda at worst.
William Garcia
no they fucking haven't you autist
Asher Walker
You are one dumb nigger
Josiah Ross
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Matthew Williams
Nice bait
Nicholas Ross
source
Tyler Ortiz
Just search "what does the fox say" in sad panda.
Jose Sullivan
While no ability to discuss video games is being ruined here (In fact this is a thread ABOUT VIDEO GAMES) I still want to ask: How many of the other boards you go to have hobbies that are being infested and DESTROYED by SJW bullshit? How many of those hobbies have a horde of SJWs latched onto it, leeching off of it?
Dylan Garcia
No body sliders to make thinner men. The women don't look effeminate at all, they look like dykes who pass as men.