60gb's

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G-d Howard you truely are my greatest Ally

PLEASE POST COMPARISON SCREENSHOTS ALREADY, FUCK!

Okay, i found myself.

toddposting was a mistake

Take a guess which one is HD texture pack.

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So basically this shit will kill your performance and slow down texture loading even more, when you go fast through locations.

2nd pic, 3rd pic

1st pic

1st pic

It might be more noticeable at 4k resolution. But holy shit its not worth the extra 60 fucking GBs

Upscaling isn`t that great, how about you release the real sources

what the fuck

It's not worth it for the extra strain on hardware either.

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Reminds that FO4 is the end result of Bethesda thinking they're smart and talented and that they could make a better New Vegas if they tried.

What annoys me more then the girl is how skinny the arms are on the guy to the left. Like holy shit.

ht tp://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1769/?

That's not much difference for 60GB.

I guess that solves the riddle of fuckhuge filesizes. It's not uncompressed audio, it's just the textures.

it's also they're biggest foray into trying to be "cinematic" considering they premiered the game at some party with a bunch of actors. they even got the guy from the Total Recall remake!

For your internet connection.

you cucks are funny

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Why do you think people spend all day reading cuck tranny comics in LOL threads.

no no, the hired one will pretend that they hate the game but not too much, just so they get accepted by the community, i think their main job is just to make sure that 8ch talk about it daily.

It feels like you just slapped some sweetfx on it

There isn't really much to talk about, so when something new related to video games happens it gets a thread here

I can see why considering the originals

I can picture the spaghetti dropping out Todd's pockets when the whole room is trying really hard to think of something positive to say while they're all thinking how shit it is.

You don't notice much of a difference, and there's mods out there that do a better job without being this bloated.

I want to rape Todd

Can`t really argue with this.

Holy shit

Shit game lol

Another comparison of incredible 60gb's 4k texture pack that needs GTX1080!

I bet he shoved that eggplant on his ass later that day.

I think i know why those new textures still look like shit. Bethesda UV mapping and poor design of textures themselves.

You created a 120GB game, Todd. Laughter is the only possible response.

I doubt it, since that's an avocado.

Magnificent difference.

You right now.

They release this shit this year, they'll release the VR crap next year, gotta hand it to the Toddler and Bethesda.

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Their VR version lacks movement too, like you have to throw a special grenade and wherever it lands is where you teleport instead of actually walking around in VR. I bet Bethescucks will swallow that balls deep.

What in the fuck? How could the textures alone, even at 4k, total out to 60gb?

Did they just not compress anything so people who know fucking nothing about game assets will feel good because of how much space it's taking up on their HDD?
.dds usually doesn't take up that much space, even if every fucking texture is 4k for whatever reason.

That is the easiest thing to slip past QA, to most people it looks fine, only when reviewing the asset is it blatantly apparent that there's an issue there.

I literally explained it in another thread, and I proved they have 2 fucking layers of compression, both the compressed .dds textures and the .b2a archives, the archives themselves give good compression being about 2/3 the size of the same files uncompressed. The game has a shitload of textures.

Get your shit together, Bethesda

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What bothers me most about these skinny faggots is they somehow still manage to have fat fuck faces. How is that even possible?

lack of testosterone and hormone development leads to you never getting rid of baby fat.

it is from all the estrogen in the water and soy he eats, he most likely has a micropenis as well

nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/18898/?
And this thing patches out voiced protag and to extend shitty gameplay.

Checks out.

Holy fuck how does this guy Support that head with that pencil neck. He looks like a fucking Penn Jillette bobblehead.

2nd and 3rd, it's easy to tell but not enough of a difference to justify 60gb.

You couldn't pay me to download this crap

For you.

Is Todd even involved in these games anymore?

they're a part of his fragile ego regardless.

I know a fair bit about computers, and I can tell you how these files are so big.
They have no fucking compression.

Allow me to show you, these two files are of a brachypelma smithi. They look virtually the same, however the .png is considerably larger than the .jpg, that's because it's completely uncompressed.
You now know why the filesizes for vidya is so fuckhuge.

Watching his interviews, he doesn't seem to be any egoistical at all. In fact, he's really humble and makes fun out of himself and his games a lot. It's just people around him praise him so much that he doesn't have a clue whether the things he made are bad or not, he just wants to make everyone happy.

Back in his early days in Bethesda, he used to be active in internet forums and take inputs from avid gamers. The sole reason why Morrowind is designed that way is because people on the internet complained about how procedurally generated Daggerfall's content was. Nowadays, he doesn't even have a social media account. How can he know what his customers really want?

So they could have reduced the file size down to 5.5 GB if they compressed the images?
BRAVO

Please tell me his head is photoshopped!
That massive double chin on that anorexic body is fucking impossible!

Decompressing takes time/processing though. Didn't FO4 have already terrible loading times?

Yes, potentially even smaller.
The technical incompetency of these people is astounding, isn't it?

user, if you export an image compressed, that's how the image stays. You don't need to decompress it when loading.
Well, technically .pngs are also compressed, but they're lossless compression; they retain all detail.
The human eye mostly cannot detect most small details on an image, so .jpg simplifies them through an algorithm.

but that's wrong, .png isn't an uncompressed .jpg, those are different compression methods
lossy formats like .jpg or .mp3 remove some of the data from the uncompressed file, they also tend to degrade with repeated compression and decompression while lossless files keep the data, do not degrade but are much larger

Mate, I already corrected myself.

What would the file size of a completely uncompressed image be?

didn't see it

You're talking about filetypes like .bmp at that stage, and their filesizes are ridiculously huge.
I can't upload .bmps as Holla Forums doesn't accept them, but strangely the .bmp I just made has the same size as the .png. Usually they're far larger.

That's because one of main techniques of PNG compression is grouping repeating pixels. If they are very varying it won't be as effective. I believe PNG was designed for logos and simple web graphics, but I might be wrong on that. pls correct me

That's only true for certain specific formats. Shit like JPG and PNG need to be decompressed.

They're already using .png (I assume), it doesn't take very much longer to decompress a .jpg.
Also, a tiny increase in loading time would be preferable to a fucking 60GB size. Stop thinking like Bethesda, user.

You guys forget those 60gb are all uncompressed 4096x4096 resolution textures. Most games use 2048x2048, and additionally compress them. Fuck, on top of them people add engine generated filters to add detail to the texture, instead of literally drawing that detail on texture itself.

Have you even played Unreal Tournament or Serious Sam? Remember how additional filtering was applied on top of 512x512 textures, making them seem detailed? The technology is evolved much further than those games, but it seems less and less developers care to use it and instead spam uncompressed shit.

Presumably someone downloaded this piece of shit, so hopefully they can say if they do or not.

Not really: caedesnotes.wordpress.com/2015/03/23/comparing-performance-stb_image-vs-libjpeg-turbo-libpng-and-lodepng/
That's 4x slower. I'm too lazy to go through checking other decoding benchmarks though.

I'm not defending them, I'm just pointing out that if their loading/streaming performance is already shit they probably opted to waste disk space versus making it even worse.

He looks like he has the disease from Unbreakable where all his bones are glass. if you farted near him the force would shatter his pelvis.

But that says it's slower for a .png to load, wouldn't that be an argument for using .jpg?

.jpg doesn't even support alpha. It wouldn't be feasible to use them for games.

Why is Batman choking out Pocahontas?

Most textures don't need an alpha layer, you could easily get away with .jpg everything else.

I don't know if that's really Batman, why doesn't his mask have bat ears?

This is b8

Ah fuck, it's been a long day and didn't read your post right. Yeah, it's quicker to decompress JPEGs compared to PNG but would still add some overhead compared to an uncompressed format.

Because she's a sacrifice

Commit suicide.

Does it still look on par with New Vegas except with slightly better lighthing?

Thats not something you should be proud of, its expected.

I wish I had your faith in humanity, user.

son.

The only thing that wouldn't use alpha would be any hard surface, or skin textures, but even with hard surfaces like in

I can see an alpha channel on two of those planks, so that's not even a hard rule.
alpha is used a fuckton to cut polys down in games. It's a necessity.
I guess you could use .jpg for hard-surface stuff, but now you're working with two image formats.

Not defending bethesda, but .jpg isn't the best contender for texture work by far.

Someone needs to open the diffuse and normal maps in Photoshop and post side-by-side comparisons. My guess is that they only upped the compression format on most stuff. It's what happened with a lot of the Skyrim Special Edition textures.

Forout 4U

Eyelashes are usually a separate texture to the rest of the face.
Like a fair amount of textures in Beth games? user, his base suggestion still stands, they could cut that size down by several GB.

Morrowind was the last game bethesda published thats even playable without mods

you wouldn't use JPGs for game textures, that's silly. You would use some other compression technique. Hell, devs used to handroll their own compression/decompression algorithms for old games.
This is all assuming competence, though, so for a Beth game you can safely ignore that possibility.

redditors shouldn't be here in the first place REEEEE

Worked for R6 Siege and XCOM2.

Where do idiots like you come from?

Make place! Make place Ladies and gentle Men! Because here comes the polished turd!

I'm skinny, but not vegan, is there still hope for me?

sage for offtopic

Compare that image to

I don't think this is even a texture issue. Look at the size of those wood grains, they're way too huge. The UV mapping is just garbage and the texture is being displayed at twice or four times the size it's supposed to be seen at.

Do you have a strong chin?
Estrogen doesn't make you thin, but it does give you a weak faggot chin, a round face and a shrill voice.
Basically, do you have traits that are desirable in women but disastrous in men? That's how you tell if you're high estrogen faggot.

There's a thing we computer scientists call "compression."

There is no fucking excuse for having 60 GBs of textures. That shit's not compressed. And if it's compressed, I'm amazed by how fucking awful their compression algorithm is.

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The meaning of "you can't polish a turd" isn't that you literally can't, but that there's no reason to do it. It's like your friend telling you that you can't tip a waitress more than 20%.

Nice job missing the joke autismo

Some faggots finally made a video demonstration.

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In a world, where brick textures evolved to excessive quality, Bethesda still has plastic blurry garbage of a texture

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Its like they just risen contrast a little bit.

That's all fine and dandy, but how are the assaultrons?

Gus has always been a Bethesda dick sucker. No surprise there.

I don't think they know what normal maps are

I got yo back bro, let's save some kilobytes!

those bricks still look like shit, and bump map and parallax mapping look like ass if you play using VR.

You are the only loser here, user.

Nice looking wizardry with guns you've got there, user.

Theres your problem.

So which one do you think looks better, normal or advanced?

Technology has come so far.

Very nice argument i am seeing here.

didn't know Call of Duty got a Cybiko port.

I'd play it. Remember that one Skyrim mod?

who says i bought vr?
im just pointing out if you use VR with bumpmaps its looks like shit.

I see no difference between high-res and the high textures on fo4. the high-res textures look less blurry thats it.

Its not a mod though, but a texture compression configuration option in ini file.

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That is just utterly pathetic. For most of them, even running the vod at 4k I couldn't tell when they switched from the old textures to the HD ones.

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What mod, this one?

Serious Sam and UT was made by a bunch of ners that liked playing games and doing computer stuff, fallout 4 is a corporate product done by talentless hacks.

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I mean NERDS

Another video comparison, even less noticeable.

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.PNG was created to replace the .gif

WE WUZ KANGZ

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that's not true, even on skin you need an alpha layer.

you forgot the " " around the word playable but yeah

Worth it

Pick none

I suppose you think Deus Ex is bad too?

Right
Bullshit of the highest degree.
You can just embed an alpha channel as extra data on the jpeg and have your game make use of it, or you can even have a texture as 2 separate files but one of them is the alpha channel.

so make more work than it should be just to make a game

in honesty deus ex has shitty controls and not very fun.

Traced my own face, you can judge yourself. Also, my voice is quite girlish, but it gets way deeper when I'm relaxed and/or really not caring.

But user, bethesda does it and they're one of the most successful companies in the field. you're right though

Even your own mother probably thinks your a casual.

I'm a fucking disaster

So this is what you look like right?

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Maybe

This is some dank red user oc now.
Have it in usable form

With one 200MB download I could improve both the textures and game performance.

The game is as large as it is because of textures and models. I'm aware Bethesda does shoddy work. I alluded to that in my post. I know what compression is and I know that Bethesda obviously doesn't do that. I said it sounded "good" because it sounded like they actually did something, but apparently they manage drop below the ground level standards that I set for them by simply copy/pasting the existing shit (see: >>11881239 )

How the fuck can you turbo autists have the audacity to be condescending shitheads?

They are computer illiterate retards that got prebuilts from bestbuy, I bet they also think they need to upgrade every 5 months.

Only 35 out of 97 people died, and it was mostly due to the fact that it used cheaper and more dangerous Hydrogen instead of safe Helium. Airships are cool as fuckBut Fo4 is a massive ball of wank.

I think for some comparison sake, instead of the vanilla textures, we should compare it to something someone made for Free and rings in at 0.24GB (rounded up)

That would look good if it had actual color.

If Bethesda does shoddy work then how is them doing anything at all good even theoretically?

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The current excuse is LoD's.
LoD's
For a high resolution texture pack.

Would be good if this improve the graphics in 4k Ulta HD TV textures for better and more realistic ultra graphics

I meant "good" in the loosest sense and with the loosest of standards. I thought that they may have made textures that looked noticeably better due to the even more bloated filesize (vanilla fallout 4 is extremely bloated but looks noticeably better than skyrim) . That would be an achievement by Bethesda's standard. As it seems, they couldn't even do that. I was basically throwing them a bone while simultaneously insulting them.

In short, the complement was actually an insult and I was treating them with the level of contempt one may have for your average retard.

Should normalfags who think playing half a dozen games is acceptable be banned from writing reviews?

you are a faggit.

Bro, there's always a way. Even if you sound like Mickey Mouse and look like Jack Skellington you can make yourself great again by bulking up.

Deus Ex does it too, and even upclose it looks fucking good.

Retard.

This really helps one appreciate the illusion of depth and realism that texture images bring to video games.

Makes me wonder if there are any good-looking games with no textures at all.

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Halo MCC did it earlier, they are ripping off even the jewish practices

(Very nice!)
That image is bad though

Reminds me of Runescape, I'd play it.

working out improves testosterone.
go to /fit/, read sticky, start with stronglifts

You should start speed running, you've got the body for it.

Guilty Gear Xrd has some textures, but they're mostly just solid colours and anime eyes. The visual designer for the game gave a talk at GDC 2015 about it, and he went into some seriously detail when it came to how they nailed the lighting and cel shading. Highly recommended.

checkin those dubs. Thanks for introducing me to UV mapping. I now know what to call these hideous oversights when I see them in other games, as well.

They just wanna make sure you have them man